I love the added extras for the video. It makes me understand the build better, and thus the game as a whole. Even if I am not running out and start respeccing into Bonespirit.
Just to say. I litterally never played necro on D4 but played all the other classes. Just personal preference (mostly because he has not mobility skill like a teleport or something). And even knowing that, I continue to watch all your videos :) I like your way of playing and your work on mechanics analysis. Good job. I need somebody like you to test everything on my favorite barb class :)
Well.... Looks like I have more gear to look for while playing now. I enjoyed Bone Spirit last season and this looks even better and I still get to have some minions =)
The recommended boots, helm and chest piece is really really difficult to find. Even regurlarly checked item trading sites. The rest I got pretty much together. Can't wait to try it out ! Update: Tried it out. Survivability seems to be an issue. Most things one hit me at tier 100+ even normal trash mob hits at armor and resistance cap and around 30k HP. I can hit around 400-600 mio, which is nice though. Will play around with it a bit more.
working like a charm tough I am old and couldnt get why we need ''your skeleteal mages empower you'' aspect on the helm ... also why we need core skills when we actually use none ... other then that all is explained like to a 5 years old :D
Somehow all the builds I like this season don't use the Harlequin Crest! I'll probably still try this build with the Shako as I saw you use it in the bossing setup.
Hey, just wanted to put a plug in to ask blizzard to get rid of damage resistance. In higher tier pit pushing, like 120’s and onwards, it just ruins the fun of the game as I find myself either avoiding the mobs or spending 30 to 45 seconds pounding on them to no avail. Your thoughts?
I don't quite understand what's wrong. I swapped to this and get 1 shot in like pit 50's. Still armor capped, still res capped, but I lost to much life, almost 10k from swapping my pants out. Not sure if that's the reason considering Pit 50's are so low, I am totally lost as to why that is.
Hi so i tested the build, i make more dmg with shadow minions because of the 7 essence so its 35 essence. i tested with sacrifice the mages, but the dmg numbers way higher with them and the essence plus and iam always above 275 essence. so more dmg and consistent dmg, not every second hit without
You say you sac the Mages for Overpower buff, but in the gameplay you clearly use them, which would also make sense since it's more total Essence, right?
well, this build can hit 1billion bone spirit damage, I just managed to get that on mine and the gear is good but not optimal. that was with bone storm. I then tried adding in some fun with the bone prison as per your idea @macrobioboi and holy fuck, i managed to grab a video and a screenshot of a 1.5 billion hit on a dummy... WTF! however, for pits I can't imagine surviving without bone storm, but damn, that prison extra essence pushed me to 322 max essence and that apparently somehow boosted the damage like nuts to a 1.5B hit.... holy cow, I didn't think it would hit THAT hard
Im really curious about sacrificing mages. The bonus you get is for an additive overpower damage increase. Using shadow mages gets you 5 mages at x3% damage each on top of the 7 essence for each mage. This 35 essence also gives us x4% on bone spirit. I feel like this has a significantly higher impact on our damage. What are your thoughts?
@@MacroBioBoi Overpower damage is increased by x35%, multiplicative yes, but it increases an additive stat. on my build its giving about +350% overpower. I feel like the double dip of x15% damage and an additional x140% on bone spirit would yield higher dps.
@@KitsuneDub that's just not real, and you're being mislead by your character screen. It's very easy to test this in game, I have a recent video covering this exact misconception.
@@MacroBioBoi I’ve been testing it and it’s yielding lower damage which is why wanted to comment. To Try and dive deeper into this because I’m not on the spreadsheets and all but want to understand this.
You're killing me bro! I am still working on perfecting the shadow blight build you made a bit ago. Are you saying this build is better than that one? I am looking for anything other than the meta golem build.
If you want the best build, nothing will beat minions. I don't put out build guides to make people switch builds. I put them out for people who want to play them, and I show the best version I can come up with.
Bone spirit always have been a very gear intensive, end game build. But contrary to blight and minions, I dont believe its worth to switch for, just for trying, if you dont meet exaclty the required stats
@@MacroBioBoi Which I greatly appreciate! I just have D4 build ADD and a new shiny build distracts me. I'm sticking with Blight though, I love it! Thanks!
was wondering why you haven't updated max roll yet with you blight build with no minions. thought you made some changes a few days ago but build was last updated a few weeks ago.
Did you take the single most gear intensive setup and suggest that you add another avenue of scaling to it? I think you did. Buddy... if you can stack enough greater affixes and tripple crit them to test your meme, go ahead. Keep in mind that the mages will die in instantly.
@@thefilth7368 You can scale both with Crit damage instead of Bone Spirit temper if you go for 100% crit chance. And no, I'm not even talking about +Bone Critical Damage (if you know, you know). You will lose out on some Bone Spirit scaling though.
@@MacroBioBoi Alright. What do you think of scaling with Crit damage (with 100% crit chance ofc) instead of Bone Spirit and using shadow mages with the 3% multiplier per minion?
Playing with or without bolt elixier...? And why do you say you have crap equip? Its good of course not the very best with some missing or unfinished master working, but its by far better than the average player has...
Can anyone explain to me how in his gameplay parts of the video, MacroBioBoi has full fortify? I haven't played necro much (lately, it's been sorc, for me and when I played necros before, they were always Blood) and I can't get my fortify to do much of anything following this build. I listen to the vid multiple times a day while I play, scour the paragon board planner, etc in case I am missing something but no luck so far. I am not finished with the build though. Have a LOT of better gear to get, etc but none of that will up fortify gain. I only see one lil passive in the skill tree for fortify gain and it isn't doing much of anything that I can see since the node also requires lucky hit but there is none of that in the build. I think I am just missing something? First time I have tried using a build from Macro so reserving judgement until I have finished paragon boards but I feel like I am missing something.
I didn’t know imperfectly balanced worked in a way where you just get the 15% more damage I thought it was “core” skills deal and cost more damage. Bone spirit is not a core skill
yeah i have totally no idea whats going on, just managed to hit 550m on the test dummy .. 614m ... WTF is going on, up untill now my max hit had been 280mish .. changed from bone storm to bone cage (didnt put points in because of macarb skills) .. OK 640m no corps tendils WTF
changed 2 aspects and 3 skill points, changed from shielding storm and the 12 sec exrtra time, to higher crit chance and + ess, and blood getters, moved points from shielding storm to the thorns one, and movement speed.. ... changed nothing, hit 711m... im so confused
shit gear doesn't work even on pit 101. a lot of times, bosses won't die with less than 10 hits, sometimes 20+ hits. even with 275 resource, 99% cd chance under bone storm, 1350% op, 375% cd, pit 101 is very struggle. you die almost 1 hit. you need top tier ga gears for this build otherwise, this will never work. 80% of my gears are ga1 with right stat and they are at lv.2 or lv.3 upgrade. i have to very careful to go through mobs and bosses? just forget it. it won't work. gear required for this build to work is ridiculous. almost same level as fire sorc. shiit gear will never work.
@@jwl2658 building a bleed bash barbs and is growing good, but alas, mages if you are not mekuna are not in a good spot, druids are nowhere to be seen and rogue are squishy as necro but have not the huge damage... so yes the balance is fucked up, the necro is too NOT all that, is just the elixir that empower him over the rest but he have his big problems
@@alexdenton5228 yeah without elixir I don’t think necros are insane compared to barbs. Rogue ranged builds are good too but they literally only have ranged now, all melee rogue builds in the dumpster. Caster classes all getting 1 shot all the time unless u cheese with perma sorc invuln. Only Barb has a good variety of builds, bash, bleed, and thorns all doing well at the top but even stuff like double swing clears 120+
Thank you for going into such detail with these guides! I'm still learning many of the mechanics, and it helps so much to understand why things are happening as they are.
Thx man With your Parangon, I can reach 1 billion damage I was stuck with King Pig build (WR Pit 120 with Bone spirit build) with just 500-700M per hit. Now, I think I can beat the WR with your parangon and some advise coming from King Pig build ! :D I wonder if aspect of ossified essence can be switched by aspect which spawn pool of blight under bone prison. It can be proc 20% damage multiplier and proc more often cooldown reduction from Decrepify (with damage per second). I will test to use Reapers instead of protectors skeletons to have a lot of more corpses with passive of reapers The build need to use raise all the time so Reapers can be easily stay alive or be reanimated
Nice build and guide! Thanks for taking the time to create this. Just one minor bit of feedback ~ your build shows you sacrificed the mages, but your gameplay shows you’re using them. 😊
Hi, my favorite content creator, I want to ask if I can use Tyrael's Might Uber Unique to this build? Is there a chance I can use to incorporate it into this build? It has lots of defensive stats plus one big Offensive stat on it. Let me know please. Thanks so much for your fantastic building guides. If anyone knows, it would be you our GURU.
Just wishing there are all sort of unlock/achievement reward for different tier and different build that actuallly driving us to spec and try different builds.
You must have very low standards if thats everything you ever wanted lol. Dont get me wrong, Season 4 is actually the first worth one to play D4 on but honestly the game is still beta, its still barebones and all you can do is pits...
Thanks, Mac -- great video. And thanks for all the work you've done on S4 necro. Incredibly helpful and fun. I have been leveling to 100 (at 92 now) with the earlier, tamer version of Bone Spirit (minion-free, Blight + Bone Prison, Bone Storm, Decrep, etc). Enjoying it a lot, my gear is fair-to-okay, but it's starting to fray around the edges a bit, especially as I push past L30 or so in the Pit. Out of curiosity, wanted to do something with the Deathless Visage instances that keep dropping on me, so I rearranged some things to keep me at the armor cap, dropped Blood Mist, added deathless Visage and Bone Spear. It helps that I found a pair of +4 Bone Spear gloves. I am finding this buys me a LOT of wiggle room with trash as my Bone Spirit cooldown management is still suboptimal. Completely melts mobs; still exploring the boss dynamics. I have all the uniques for the build you describe here, and it looks like a blast, so I will probably give it a spin pretty soon. Thanks again. Really appreciate you keeping us up to speed as your own thinking about these builds evolves.
I now almost have all the gear pieces together except for the amulet. I had planned to go and fetch Duriel this weekend but life got in the way. Do you know when the build guide will be finished? I think this build can become very popular once it has a spot in the tierlist on Maxroll.
@@MacroBioBoi It's also like anything I ever wanted. Started saving up some gear after this video came out! I'm just unsure about some things, but I'm sure it's going to be in the build so I won't waste your time and energy by putting all my questions here haha.
mmm interesting, i only use the skeletal defenders with 99% damage reduction and blood getter aspect + gruesome mending passive (i hate to use potions for healing) still i was able to do 300-400m per overpower bone spirit with non optimized gear, also conceited aspect instead swelling curse for more damage with bone storm but also my board is different too
Hi and thanks for the video, i got a question about this and general: what will do more dmg, Overpower damage role, crit damage role, max essence or skill point for bone spirit? i ask because i think about to put harlekin quest on
How to pilot the build is cool so u can see how it actually plays 👍 a tldr version for the stats on builds would be awesome it’s just a lot to remember while playing and not looking at the guide every few minutes before trashing gear
The bug section was really helpful, i play bone spirit/spear hybrid and now I understand why my cooldowns on bone prison and bone storm goes down so fast ! Decrep isn't even required for that build anymore (apart for damage multipliers..) and I can't stand having to put on every necro build. I'll try to implement some of your ideas (requiem aspect mostly with bone prison) for that build ! Thanks for that great explanation as usual.
after watching your stream mak ing this guide i watched your damage explanation and i have been out of the loop sinds season 2 when everything changed. thanks for the excellent explanation, it also explains why all my eternal realm characters currently suck!
Love your build guides! Full minions may own this season, but I prefer ones like this that feel like you're actually playing. Currently running bone spear and having fun with it. Can't wait for your video on that ❤
Elixir of Resource!! +25 ess You likely were using it but i may have missed you mentioning it. Cadaver aspect for huge boss 1hits that stacks along side flesh eater, 1.1x for each corps upto 1.5x, fun for 1 hitting durial
How much impact does amplify damage have if you already have a bunch of +% damage to cursed enemies from tempering? It seems like it would have pretty diminishing returns and might not be worth the skill points? I posted this before watching the gear part and clearly you aren't using +% damage to cursed enemies, oops
Hey Mac, I really enjoy playing bone spirit on the season that shall not be named. lol how do you enjoy playing this compared to blight per say? Which do you have more fun playing?
@@MacroBioBoi my minion necro has 52k hp and has shako and the 25% damage reduction aspect with both life elixirs I get 76k hp and have no problems with 122…
@@Devilchylde ohh, then do that instead. I don't get one shot at 35k except for big shadow boss attacks. So I don't think we're talking about actual one shots, and instead, dying quickly. But you need to dodge stuff eventually.
@@MacroBioBoi I’m saying it’s a fun build but the margins for error are so unforgiving. I don’t find it better than golum. Although golum is getting nerfed it seems all necrosis can fall back on
@@Devilchylde Well it is strictly better than Minion builds this season, and pushes further. But yes, when you get into the ultra endgame, you need to sacrifice survivability for damage and you will get one-tapped by the damage scaling of the pit. It's easier to feel tankier on minions, which you can also do here. Just sacrifice damage output for Max Life. If you're personally dying, put on more defensives.
Using your Bone Necro build on Maxroll with a couple tweaks. How much Cooldown Reduction do you have because I'd like to potentially drop Cooldown Reduction on my amulet for Essence per Second, but I noticed without Cooldown Reduction, even when casting Decrepify, there is still a pesky 1-2 second cooldown on Bone Spirit
@@MacroBioBoi After watching the video over a few times and experimenting myself, i can see the appeal of dropping it. I do think 3 points for all of what Bone storm offers (Especially with the updated Shielding Aspect) is a HUGE amount of value, but if you're already going to run the corpse tendrils aspect and possibly the Crit for Bone spirit aspect, then i would agree with you, you don't "need" it.
Any potential going beyond 1 billion hits? Considering dps, it still is not as good as other meta builds, though I really like the idea of bone spirit, always wanted to run it and this season is the most close implementation of my ideal that became possible. But if we can’t scale the damage further it seems that it will just get stuck at some point unfortunately. I assume without any buffs and updates for the necro this is not possible, right? Really wish necro gets more aspect slots like barb does…
I was playing around with shadowblight key passive and it seemed to get bigger bonus for the damage, but then we got a problem with the uptime of that passive which won’t be reliable for the single target if we don’t get a way to generate a tremendous amount of shadow damage per second. And also how much of a bonus does ossified key passive give you when you have 270 essence? Maybe it will be closer to the bonus of the shadowblight if you have more essence because my alt had around 200 for the test.
The damage could go to like 1.5-2 billion if you triple master crit everything you need but nobody is going to reach that realistically. Which is sad when you consider bleed barbarian’s literal every single tick of damage is in the billions lol
i think with absolutely perfect gear you can squeeze out a 2B hit (using bone prison and no bone storm) -- but as far as I can see that's just about the cap. I guess unless somebody finds a completely new and unknown multiplier that nobody else thought of so far, that's just the end of how far this can be scaled. I managed a 1.5B hit and I have i think another 4 skill ranks I could squeeze in with all tripe MW crits on the gear, and I have a bit more int to gain with all greater affixes, and I guess in the trial i was not fully fortified so that could scale a bit better still. plus maybe the overpower incense to get another little multiplier on top.... so yeah, you can drive this up into probably over 2B, but anything like the double or even tripe digits billions i don't see any way.
