i really hope you cover the new Rocket Knight Adventures Re-sparked at some point!! when i heard that announcement you were the first person i thought of. it's going to be sold physically on limited run games if u want a physical copy. i want to know what you think!
@@RetroBirdGaming *More Overrated Games That Actually Aren’t* • Donkey Kong Country (series) • Super Mario Bros Wonder • Sonic 3 & Knuckles • 2D Super Mario series (Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario All-Stars, Super Mario Advance 1-4, Super Mario World 1 & 2, hacks of the original SMW with custom music and custom endings, and yes, even Super Mario Bros. Wonder, no matter what the Game of the Year awards and its supporters that didn’t make it win say. I love Baldur’s Gate 3, but it’s not the only best game of last year!) • Pac-Man World (series) • pre-2010s Final Fantasy games • Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (Dreamcast) • 2000s Mario RPGs • Mega Man (franchise; re: classic series, Mega Man X1-X4, Zero, Battle Network/StarForce) • Pokémon (2000s - mid-2010s generations) The list goes on, anyone can let me know if I’m missing anything, because I might just be missing a lot of things.
Chrono Trigger Super Metroid Dragonquest VIII Mortal Kombat Dragonquest 1 Doom Resident Evil 1-3 Halo 1-3 Mega Man Legends Fallout Banjo Kazooie Super Smash Bros Final Fantasy Tactics Legend of Dragoon Metroid Prime StarTropics Link's Awakening Secret of Mana Final Fantasy 4 Diddy Kong Racing
Can we appreciate how cool and yet also hilarious it is to see him playing Sonic 2 + Sonic & Knuckles on a Sega Nomad? Imagine taking that setup on a road trip.
Never played Earthbound till the SNES classic came out. Wow, what an awesome game. Never also played Zelda Ocarina of Time till it came out on the Switch rental service 😋. I lived through both of these periods in gaming and I can say, I missed out but thankfully through these options I was able to play what I had previously missed. The best part though about "missing out" is that I now have a back catalog so massive I can very thankfully concentrate purely on retro games. So many of the games of today simply bore me and are lacking in creativity. IMHO, it's a money grab today vs. creating fun and interesting titles.
The depth behind the pronunciation of ocarina joke was not lost by me. So funny. Fun watching your channel grow over the years now. Keep up the good work, like a banana farmer umm…see I just can’t come up with puns like you can!
Three great games as far as I'm concerned! I definitely thought about this channel when I saw the Rocket Knight collection. The original Genesis game is great and I'm very curious about the other two, which I've hardly ever seen mentioned anywhere (even here!).
When I see Earthbound, I don't think over rated. I do think over-priced. Big time. It's not that rare, it was included on the SNES classic mini, and can be played on the switch if you have the subscription to the SNES games. Still, it ends up going for $400 or $500 dollars (Canadian) in my local area. Makes no sense to me at all.
The word "Overrated" has kinda lost its meaning over the years It used to mean that something was "loved too much" but still good but now people use it as an alternative for "I hate this" I'M probably going to get doxxed by Pokemon fans but Pokemon Black and White are a little bit overrated. People treat Pokemon Black and White like flawless Masterpieces when they do have flaws, the flaws being them being too short, uncreative Pokemon, lack of memorable overworld themes (YES I'M AWARE DRIFTVEIL CITY EXISTS) Its still a good game but people treat it like the mona lisa and now hate on other Pokemon games that aren't Gen 5 Genfivers are now hating on Gen 2, while it does have some problems, Genfivers treat it like its Hotel Maro, I really hope they don't hate on Gen 3 next The Pokemon games I personally enjoyed the most are Emerald, Platinum and PMD Explorers of Sky
Gen V never spoke to me the way it did for other people. I respect the games, but for some reason when I think of the games all I can remember is when the Team Plasma guys stole Musharna like an hour or two in. I think the games I get most excited about are definitely RBG and GSC, (even though I'm a Sinnohbaby) they just have a really specific flavor to them and a lot of the dev's various personalities and obsessions shine through.
Pokemon BW are fair rated in a messed up sort of way. They have lovers and haters in equal measure and both sides are wierdly justified. Personally, I think B2 and W2 are the best single games in the series as a single player experience but gen 5 is really weak as a whole. Despite ruby and sapphire being my least favorite of the 2D games, gen 3 is my favorite because of just how rich the gba/gamecube pokemon ecosystem is. The console spinoffs are even their own adventure and you get 2 of them! Pokemon Stadium and battle revolution pale in comparison and gen 5 forward basically got nothing.
Back when gen V released so many people hated it(Im a gen wunner but at that time it was a close third favorite behind the original and gold) I actively hate diamond and pearl (never played platinum). The story, characters, bad guys, no fire types all made it suck IMHO. But the older you get, and the more experienced you become you learn how truly varied opinions are. You'll hear every stance possible all within the same community. It's odd😂
Earthbound is hilarious to me. I played it a couple years ago and i was laughing my ass off at almost every line of dialogue, even in battles! Thats definitely what carried it for me
I love the Zelda series, but I never liked Ocarina of Time, even when it first came out. I've tried repeatedly to get into this game, but I can't get into it. I know that is just my opinion, but the thing that gets me riled up about the game is people constantly treating this like it launched the Zelda series or the blueprint for how a Zelda game is supposed to be, like the six Zelda games before it came out don't exist.
To be fair, OoT practically was the blueprint for every Zelda game that came out up until BoTW. And you only had 3 main console Zelda games before Oot with Zelda 2 being a different type of game that wasn't well received. OoT was the natural progression and put the Zelda series in the realm of "Must play games" in a lot of people's eyes.
When I say something is overrated, I don't necessarily say it's a bad, or I don't like it. Just that I don't think it is as highly rated as it is. I think Super Mario Bros. 3 is a little overrated. It's an amazing game, definitely top 10 NES of all time. But I don't think it is clearly #1 of all NES games.
Super Mario 3 is very good. I like Super Mario 2 a whole lot better. Just because you can play as 4 different characters each having their own abilities.
I'd say that most of the "overrated" games that I've played (including OoT and Sonic 2) are actually very worthy of their positive reputations. And to be clear, it's not just nostalgia: I've picked up all kinds of games a decade or two after they released, and I can still appreciate their quality, despite not growing up with them. That said, there are definitely a few that I found mediocre (you could say "overrated"!), though even those all have redeeming qualities in their presentation.
Yeah, the nostalgia defense is not really very applicable considering that many games just last long enough where a huge portion of the fans are newer. I think the key example is Castlevania as I think that most the people who care about Castlevania are either very experienced with gaming, or are mostly new fans. So when people call it overrated due to nostalgia because there is stiff jumps, I find that a poor critique because most of the people who are playing it aren't really nostalgia based.
Hate to say it. But I do think it is nostalgia that's the reason you love these games. I mean. There the most popular games after all and if u ask me what video game is the best, alot of people will tell you it's Ocarina of Time or Sonic 2.
@@jaretco6423 There are all kinds of games that I didn't grow up with- Goldeneye and Perfect Dark being great examples- that I still enjoyed and would still rank among my all-time favourites. Many would say that those games have aged terribly, and that their popularity is only fuelled by nostalgia, but I had no nostalgia for them when I picked them up a decade late, around the age of 20. And it's not the popularity that's swaying me, either, as there are similarly popular, beloved games that I do think are overrated.
@3dmarth Depends on the type of nostalgia. Sometimes it's good. Other times it might not be. But Ocarina of Time has been nominated as the best game ever; if not top 3 in many reviews. IGN, GameSpot, Nintendo reviews, any of them. From what I've seen, Ocarina of Time has been in the top property game that any reviews put it in.
@@jaretco6423 If I'm following correctly, you think that people are biased because of OoT's extreme popularity, and are basically obligated to think/say it's the best? There's definitely some truth to that, but it's not the whole story. For one, it has gotten a lot of (over?)exposure in Nintendo circles, so it's likely to get mentioned a lot as a favourite. I've noticed that people of different ages and regions will have different gaming tastes, broadly speaking, and some groups are not very Nintendo-centric at all! I also believe there are strong reasons for OoT's popularity, based on its merits alone. It's a very cleverly-designed adventure, and it has a certain atmosphere and "feel" that most later games in the series haven't been able to match.
As a huge Sonic fan not sure how Sonic Mania passed my radar for the Switch! Thanks for the Bird Seeds to that gem or shall I say Rings? Ha-Ha! Actually I'm amazed how many 2D games are out there for systems out now, which is why this passed my Retro Radar! When I play my 2D games I lose track of time & then reality hits & I'm like: Where am I? What year is it? Is the Rock President? What? There's more 2D Sonic than Sonic Superstars? Woo, I love being a Turtle! I mean Hedgehog!
Overrated I always felt like was a term that's used for essentially anything very popular. Chrono Trigger, FF7 and games like that. The term doesn't seem to mean what it used to like when people say a game is underrated and then talk about a game that's wildly known like Star Fox or something.
this video somehow mentions all 3 major category of games for me sonic 2, which i love ocarina of time, which im just kinda indifferent towards and earthbound, which i absolutely cannot stand ig it just shows how different opinions can be.
Well, Oot is overrated. But it's still a good game. It's just.... "Best game in the world"? Really? Oot makes a lot of the typical mistakes that most early 3D games are infamous for. Boring empty hubs (Hyrule Field is the worst offender in this regard), clunky interface (metal boots + water temple = worst dungeon experience), and the game suffers a lot from the "Where do I go next" syndrome. Like... Like when Sheik gives you a hint to go to Kakariko village to get the hookshot but it's actually not there but in the graveyard past the village. Here I am like an idiot wandering around Hyrule while Navi screams at you to go to the Forest temple, even though she's wrong. That's just a few examples of dumb game design that happens a lot. There is no such thing as the "Best game in the world". Only what the game means to the individual.
I hate the word overrated. Some people even say crimally overrated. I also think immediately, overrated by whom? Can't you rate something however you like?
I believe all gta games are over rated because it brought a new genre into gaming, the criminal mentality into being acceptable in a fictional game being ok.
"Overrated" is almost always used by people who aren't intelligent enough to realize their opinions are subjective, not factual. "Underrated", on the other hand, is something that can easily exist because of misunderstand, biases, and simple non-exposure/not giving it a proper chance. That said, I really like Earthbound and Sonic 2, but Ocarina of Time didn't land for me, I loved the original Zelda games, but Ocarina of Time (as well as Celda, TP, and Skyward Sword) didn't really land for me. If I had to nail it down what I didn't like about it, it was the dungeons/temples--they simply aren't fun for me. Breath of the Wild, Link to the Past, Legend of Zelda, and even Adventure of Link I had few to no problems with, usually enjoyed them in those games. But when it came to Ocarina of Time and the Ocarina of Time clones, I couldn't stand them - probably because they were somehow both painfully easy (in terms of combat/puzzles) and yet frustrating when it came to trying to figure out where you were supposed to actually go, what the next (mandatory) step was to do to proceed with the game, and where the key/switch was in these giant 37 room labyrinths. I also think pacing was a big problem, Breath of the Wild and Link to the Past, rarely spent more than 15 minutes in a dungeon/shrine/cave/temple, but in Ocarina of Time style games it could be hours... hours where 90%+ of the time was wandering/re-wandering the labyrinth looking for that key in a haystack. I was blown away by Breath of the Wild. That was the game I dreamed Zelda 64 was supposed to be in the hype train leading up to it: a massive overworld to explore, many towns/villages to visit, and staring over Hyrule from up high on death mountain. Plus it was all very open, if there was a part that I got stuck at, I could always go somewhere else instead, and either come back to it later or forget about it completely; Ocarina of Time-type games, getting stuck could mean you're effectively done the game... you can get a walkthrough and go through the game, but then it's a chore instead of a game.
Any game/book/song/movie/etc that earn a positive consensus about it IS overrated and there is no argue about it. The truth is that there is nothing that will please everybody. About games, I dare to say that there is not a single game that is even liked by the majority of players, and I'm not even considering that, probably, most of people don't play videogames. There is, IMHO, a lot of illusion about it. As, for example: There were 33 milion Nintendo 64 consoles sold, but """only""" 8 million copies of Ocarina of Time. """Only""" 1/4 of N64 owners had a copy of this game. Even Mario 64, with 11M copies, represents 1:3 relation. Ok, we can consider that back in the day, there weren't so many copies available to sale, or that a great number of players used to rent or trade what they played. Even then, we are also talking about a Nintendo console, that basically didn't have much of support from thirdies and blablabla. But it's not only about these games. Every single one of all of greatest hits (yeah... we can even consider that selling numbers is the only real measure of quality), I doubt that there is one single game that most players of it's era liked it. So, IMHO-again, we are all enthusiasts here (or we wouldn't be discussing about a video on the topic) and is cool to discuss about what we like and rate it all. But in the end, the most that we can do is to give people REFERENCES about what games are good. Personally, I'm not a big fan of any of these three games, but if I'm asked about "what games to play" by a person that wants to know about these consoles/genres/eras, I would recommend it, specially if I see that the person is searching for a specific type of game that matches one of these titles. Unfortunately, most of the discussion around games is made by fanatics, pseudo-critics (or every critic is a pseudo... you folks tell me about it) or people that don't play and just echoes consensus for whatever reason. What I like about this channel is that you are not a fanatic, a critic nor even an echo-chamber... just a lad that knows about what you like and knows how to share the passion. So, yeah, Ocarina and Sonic 2 are overrated, Mother still underground (but have a lot of success with critics and echo-chamberists), none of them are near from my favorites, but all are at least very good on what they try to do, and it's enough when most of released games fails to accomplish their own proposal. Cheers!
Tbh, I don't think Ocarina lives up to the hype. It gets respect because it laid so much groundwork, but I think it pales in comparison to something like Majora's Mask or Wind Waker. By the way, if you want to play the best version of the game, try ship of harkinian with 3DS textures and assets. You get HD resolution and glorious 60fps.
Sonic games have nice graphics and sounds and attitude, but I never cared for the gameplay. if I want to go fast in a platformer, I’ll play _Donkey Kong Country_ 🤷🏻♂️
There are lots of factors that contribute to a rating that would be the most repeated opinion of a game. Sometimes the market feels tired of a genre. Or sometimes a game does something new that captures peoples imaginations. Over time, popular opinion can be reassessed and a game might be considered worse or better with hindsight. A publisher might pay money to publications for favourable reviews. When it comes to legacy games, what is popular is more likely to be the taste of a select few individuals who direct publications, known as editors. Editors have the ultimate say in what get published and read by a mass audience and will employ people who's opinions they approve of. So it's quite easy for any game to be forgotten unfairly or praised without deserving it. When it comes to the best games, I'm miles away from the major publications and popular internet commentators. Here's why rating games matters. It's a matter of social engineering. What is pushed upon you might not always stick. But when your opinions are being swayed for any kind of nefarious reason such as bribes or affiliation and a desire to please powerful people, a problem arises. Is the art form of a game being lost to a desired shape of the industry that is not tailored to fun but has been compromised in the name of profit. The best way to make money is to sell many copies of the exact same game as the cost of delivery is basically nothing. So one way to do that is market one game tirelessly. All outlets, youtubers and streamers, blanket coverage. For like 10 years. The marketing is more effective in generating money than the cost of developing a new ip. So the same games and sequels of games dominate the charts. All the money is spent on very similar types of games. Don't be naïve and thing you are making informed choices independently. Because that's not the case. You are gathering information which is largely opinion posing as fact. If you need to learn to love a game then I'm not sue what you're doing that you're so determined to like something you have been told so many times is good that in order to feel normal you have to spend 80 hours of time learning to like something you wouldn't have otherwise. Games these days are very samey in terms of theme, genre and gameplay style. So the medium of entertainment is somewhat dictated by manufactured opinion such as the concept of the Metroidvania or Roguelike which are genres that spawned a thousand clones in the name of originality and authenticity. When a game can be anything and all the top 10 are games designed over 20 years ago I feel that it's important to be beave enough to support your opinion publicly just for the public record to state your taste lest you become at the yolk of popular opinion which amounts the a handful of editors and directors.
Growing up I only played Super Mario Bros. So the style of gameplay these games have never been interesting to me. Games like Mario or something like Double Dragon are straight forward. I guess I'm just too simple minded. I still am like this today. But I don't see any game as overrated. We all like different things.
Straight fwd lol. Mario games have things you need to figure out in them. Like World 4 Castle, World 7 Castle & World 8 Castle. Double Dragon on the Nes also not straight fwd as you need to also figure out where to go in later levels.
@@tonyp9313 The majority of the game is go from left to right and jump on/shoot enemies. That's all I mean. Double Dragon II is pretty simple. Those are my type of games is what I meant. A game like Zelda you're just going all over the place the entire game not knowing what to do. At least when it was new or if you've never played before. Which is the boat I'm in. So I don't have any interest. But I'm glad people enjoy that. No game is overrated to me.
@@Wheels8504 Yeah for the most part it is for Super Mario Bros 1. Just pointing out if you never played A mario game, you will have trouble to beat them. Double Dragon 2 really straight fwd, & the hardest Double Dragon game to beat.
The term "overrated" is overrated. I think a lot of the use of the term comes down to changing expectations. I saw it rather clearly with Mario Odyssey. There was the people who played it at launch (like me), where coming off of SM3DW it blew them away. They all talked it up, and then then there was a second wave of players hearing that buzz and giving it a try and all of a sudden "It's no masterpiece". Then a 3rd wave sees people putting it down and give it a go after hearing that and go "well hold on, it's still really great." I've also seen this happen with Beatles albums, the one seen as the general 'best' seems to fluctuate over the years as whenever one is decided and sits at the top to long people get to used to it and start to change sentiments from "Well Sgt. Pepper is not that good.... look at Revolver" OoT I was on the other side of, where after hearing how it was "The greatest game of all time" for like 15 years before I finally gave it a go, well nothing can live up to that let alone a game on the N64 lol. I was not too impressed after initially playing it. Also really popular and influential works tend to get woven into the fabric of the medium itself, and what was once fresh and unexpected seems less so when everything after was copying it lol.
If you were born around 1980 like me and grew up adoring the NES and SNES, when you hit high school and the Nintendo 64 came out, it was absolutely indescribable. For those of us who were kids or young adults at the time, the jump from 2D to 3D was incredible. Ocarina of Time Is a game that hasn't aged well, at least on the Nintendo 64, exactly like most games from that era during the first dedicated and consistent venture into polygons and 3-D. I think some folks think it's overrated just because of how poorly that generation of consoles has aged. However, for those of us alive to experience that at the time, it was absolutely mesmerizing. Ocarina of time is in my top three games of all time. Lost count of how many times I've completed it. Thanks for getting that some special attention and defending it. Also, Earthbound is one of my most special and memorable gaming experiences as an adult. Great list 😎
I think the issue with Ocarina of Time is how big and empty the worlds are and the dungeons can be barebones compared to other Zelda games that did it far better for how creative and challenging it was. I will always appreciated OoT for it's revolutionary and other standouts. But I'll be lying if I say it's the best Zelda game or even the best video game ever made.
I did that recently with SNES. It's kind of a wonderful feeling to experience the things you missed. I played a few SNES games as a kid, but getting to really explore the library now is awesome.
One of my daily internet pet peeves is the egregious misuse of "Under and Overrated" these days. People just use it for their selfish opinions instead of understanding why something is rated the way it is to begin with. It's okay to not like something but understand why so many do (and vice versa). We really need to normalize the Unbiased Opinion. Great video though.
I appreciate the "whatever floats your boat" sentiment. I have friends who have teased me over the years calling me a hipster who hates everything mainstream and only likes offbeat stuff just because I don't like Ocarina of Time and others, but honestly, most of my personal top ten would be super mainstream... Marios, Metroids, Castlevanias, a Final Fantasy, Earthbound... I just appreciate games that do something different quite a bit as well. Popular games are, as stated in the video, highly regarded for a reason. I like Mario 64 because it really just is fun. I don't like Halo or Fortnite, but I don't begrudge anyone for enjoying them. I don't like Ocarina of Time at all. Zelda became something different starting with that game, and it wasn't for me anymore, even if the prior games were some of my all-time favorites. It doesn't mean it's bad, but it's okay not to like it, too. I do think some of the pushback against some of these games comes from people treating it like you're somehow stupid if you don't like them. It makes you want to trash those games, whereas you'd probably just agree to disagree otherwise.
This is probably the first time I've seen someone use the phrase "Zelda became something different and it wasn't for me" in reference to OOt, and not Botw. This sentiment has been so prevalent in discussions of botw that I had forgotten that OOT did the exact same thing, just instead of linear to open, it was 2d to 3d. I think it kinda demonstrates a certain lack of perspective sectors of the Zelda community have developed. But you're spot on about people treating you like you're stupid if you don't like certain games. It's very hard not to hate something, if people actively insult your intelligence for just not liking it. A Zelda channel ran a poll ranking Zelda games, and TOTK won over OOt, and the comments were just full of people claiming anyone who preferred Totk was a "stupid child with recency bias who had probably never played oot".
It's hard to explain the impact of OoT to Zelda fans during the time it originally launched. 3d games were far from their "stride". Emoraptor sentiment and the ilk have good points and the Zelda feel was reinvented but it was unmistakably Zelda. Zelda 1 my favorite btw but OoT captured my imagination with far less need to do so in some crazy way. Imo... the best Zelda song is The Original Hyrule Castle on snes. My first Zelda game. From the uneasy panic of the rain to lit Halls of the Castle. THE song is so powerful even if the entry dungeon doesn't live up to it. It's like going from enter the eternal fire to equimanthorn on my bathory Playlist. God bless u God bless Zelda God bless that bird God I love talking Zelda memories
Look I grew up with oot I can tell you I like botw and totk more than oot because I played oot and remember really hating it I replayed it recently because I have it for GameCube and still hate it. Honestly it a bad game mechanically, story was ok and gameplay was bad but I still like majora mask which puzzles me but hey “what ever floats your boat they say”. Honestly I gald some ppl are speaking out on oot because I thought I was alone in hating it. That an final fantasy series as well but love jrpgs I don’t know what people see in final fantasy but I grew up with chrono trigger so I still think I am spoiled.
'These people' are emboldened by countless articles singing the praises of OoT. Naming it as a touchpoint in the industry. Very florid language used and very hyperbolic. It's goes with the territory of writing copy. People tend to exaggerate to just make things sound more exciting to the reader. So Ocarina of Time is officially the best game ever made. I did some research into the top ten games a couple of years ago and OoT and Mario 64 were consistently in the top 2 but OoT killed it by miles. So people are going to assume what they read has some truth in it and feel confident in repeating an opinion they already read. Then feel good in a chat room agreeing with other people and just waxing lyrical about how much they like things. So it can be a shock when someone says they don't like something because they've not heard that opinion before. It's part of media that messages become simplified and condensed for the sake of shorthand. There are alot of tastes but games get money spent on them when they sell and what sells it what people can agree on that is good. So tastes are being directed all the time to favour one party or another based on influence and brand loyalty.
@@MaxM210yeah tbh that’s how I feel about BOTW. The weapon degradation and lack of returning magic items was a major turn off. I got the collectors edition and was so hyped….never made it off the plateau 😅
A good rule of thumb: if the game was made pre-2006 and is "overrated" according to someone born in the 2000s, it is quite likely 100% worth its praise and nothing like you've played in the recent years either. 1995-2005 was truly the Golden Era of video games.
That's a good point. More generally, you know your tastes, so you can disregard certain criticisms that are typically non-issues for you. I also find that many of my all-time favourites are from around 2000, plus/minus a few years, and can safely disregard any concerns about a game aging poorly, as long as it's from the mid-90s or later, anyway.
Part of it surely comes from the frustration of knowing underappreciated games. For example, Panzer Dragoon Saga is magnificent, but hardly anyone has played it. So if you try to bring Final Fantasy 7 down a peg, it's a bit like correcting the injustice of it getting so much more love than a game that you know deserved it every bit as much.
clicked the vid and was skeptical to say least with huge influx of retro creators these days but I'm literally one minute in and love the format and script , very interesting as I've commented maybe 5 months ago on another vid and i never comment , your face maybe back ground or how you look I Dunno seems to normal or neutral if you want constructive criticism grow a beard or have a funky hair cut or color i Dunno my 2 cents still only at 1 min lol- 5 mins in and loved the banana window joke with double entendre , took 10 seconds before i got it , i like your perspective and found myself agreeing to the point i knew there was an option c and hoped it was what you wrote , 7 mins now , just writing this because i think your a top tier creator with low count subs but if you continue the hard work youll be at a mill within a year now im at the end ive laughed twice real hard love your perspective just sad it wasn't longer .... but that's what she said keep up the good work
I really like what you said at the 1:06 mark. I did a video recently about my 5 favorite guitar solos of all time. Someone told me my list of MY favorites was null and void because it didn't include THEIR favorite LOL.
While I agree that there's no need to go out of the way to tell someone something they enjoy is bad, I would say that it's important to consider that "overrated" doesn't mean "bad." A person can rate a game an 8/10 but still consider it overrated if most people consider it 10/10. On that same note, I also think that someone calling something "overrated" by definition means that they disagree with the *majority view* of that thing, not just with any individual view. In other words, if someone says a game is overrated, it doesn't mean they think any given individual is wrong for liking it - it means that they think the majority view of the game is more favorable than it deserves, even if they still think the game deserves a favorable rating. So for instance, I think OoT is overrated, but I don't think it's *bad*. On the contrary, it's an excellent game that belongs somewhere on most top 100 lists. I just don't think it should be in the conversation for best game of all time - an opinion which is very much an outlier.
I'm glad you wrote this, because I went through the exact same thought process while making this video. However, while saying something is overrated could mean you disagree with the majority view, you're still saying that you think you're right and all those people are wrong. You have it rated correctly while all of them have it wrong. I get what you're saying though. There's an earnestness in saying you just don't quite think a game is quite as good as others do. Either way, I've found that when people say a game is overrated they often don't use that word because they only slightly disagree (they usually really disagree). Still, I think it's a fair point of you to call out that people don't always mean it in as obnoxious of a way as it could be interpreted. Good comment :)
I really hate how it has become so common to hate on OoT. That game is an absolute classic and really sucked me in when I got it at a 9 year old kid. It still holds up well to this day!
I believe that this resistance about OoT comes from the fact that most fans of this game acts as if consensus makes a game better. Forget for a second about your personal taste of what you believe that makes a good game. Now imagine yourself trying to convince a lad that is fan of something diametrical opposite of OoT (but that still a great game on it's genre)... as example, a fan of Championship Manager (a series that had a release at the same year of OoT) that Zelda is a better game. Or you both will agree that the other game "is a good game that you dislike" or at least one of you will like both (as I do... but liked CM most back in the days... nowadays I would choose OoT with not much enthusiasm... just saying for reference). And that is it! As OoT fans tend to be way more loud about their taste than Championship Manager players do, then this is the reason I believe that it have more hate. PS: And don't we forget that joking and trollcraft can be very fun on a number of ocasions. Cheers!
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who hates it? i never see this being expressed - thank god!
I feel that a lot of the hate comes from people who weren't even alive during that era of gaming. It's easy to compare it to more modern 3d games and say "Why did people think this was good?", when back during those days we didn't really have any other game like it.
I can confirm that I didn't grew up with OoT. I played when it was remade on 3DS and I thought it was fine. Not bad. But not amazing either. The issue I have with OoT is how big and empty the world of Hyrule were, the dungeons were average at best; but not very unique or challenging that it could've been, the bosses are easy, the story is generic at best and the music doesn't grab me as many people do. I will always respect it for how impactful and revolutionary the game is. But best Zelda game or best game in general? No. I think there are better games than OoT.
It makes me so happy that you mentioned Earrhbound! Back then it didn't get the love and attention it deserved and today i feel like there are more fans of the series, but it is still an umknown. If that makes an sense! Great video, and keep up the great work!
IMO, Mega Man 2 is one of the most overrated games of all time. Im not saying its a bad game by any means and its definetly one of the strongest of all the original titles. What gets me is whenever someone says its the greatest Mega Man game of all time and its never been done better since. I'm like, "Are you seriously trying to tell me that 2 was better than the first 4 Mega Man X games? Get outta here!"😂
Imo I dont see retro games to be targets of being over or underrated. It was just a point of being a good or bad game back then. Games I consider to be overrated are games like Call of Duty or most EA sports games. Since they are basically the same game every time with new year added to them.
You're absolutely and objectively correct. OOT, in the year 1998, using the N64 hardware....Nintendo could not have made a better adventure videogame. Docking points for its blocky visuals or stiff (relative to modern dual stick free roam) camera control is unjust. It's like blaming the original space invaders for not being ikaruga.
Zelda: OoT does NOT deserve the praise it so often gets. Time hasn't been kind to the N64 graphics and the quality of life stuff like faster text speed, skipable cutscenes, and game design that's clear on what you're supposed to do is severely lacking (especially when navigering Jabu-jabu's belly, the first phase of the Phantom Ganon fight and how to free King Zora is extremely cryptic, as is most of the side quests. It was revolutionary and it's a definive classic, but it's not a 99/100 masterpiece
Well, i don't really rate games. Who cares? I tried Ocarina Several times on several different platforms and it just doesn't feel good to me. Neither does LttP. Heresy, I know. And I liked or loved Zelda 2, Mario 2, and Simons Quest. I honestly think overrated is more like over saturation. We hear about the hot new game for a few months, nonstop. You get tired of it quickly, and it leads to the label overrated. Or if you can easily predict a top 10 list for a system... are they, though? Not everyone will think SMB 3 is the best nes game. But it and zelda 1 will always be in the upper echelon. It's predictable and boring. Im always more interested in hearing something a bit far out and being opinionated. But everyone has to decide for them selves.
I think the people that think these games are overrated are youngsters that played later iterations in the series/genre first and developed their own nostalgia for those later iterations. Imagine having Breath of the Wild or Wind Walker being your first Zelda completion then going back to OoT. Or Sonic Mania being your first Sonic completion then going back to sonic 2. Or even playing Undertale then going back and playing Earthbound. Even I’ve been guilty of this when playing shmups lately. Of course Batsugun is gonna be better than Tiger Heli. But once you factor in what else was available at the time, Tiger Heli becomes way more impressive. I think these youngsters NEED to factor in release date when judging, but that’s just me. Do what you want. This is all about fun right. Not everyone has to become a self proclaimed gaming historian like myself, right?
Zelda OoT 3DS is amazing but over all I’d say OoT is over hyped imo. I grew up with the game I love it but the gnarly things I’ve heard the fans say about this game I will admit goes overboard sometimes like borderline lieing about the games features and content/story.
I'm not going to say overrated but hooo boy there are a lot of highly-rated games that just weren't for me. Earthbound is definitely on that list. I find that I just don't click with older 8-bit and 16-bit RPGs that much. This is going to make me sound like a dork but having really nice character art and cinematics really makes a difference for me over sprites with text balloons.
Greatest video game of all time: Minecraft. The second best game of all time? GTA5. My source: popular = quality. If you call them overrated, your opinion doesn't matter. Also the greatest movie of all time is Avatar.
I don't know about overrated but most underrated is Mega Man... well Mega Man in general but if I had to narrow it Zero 3, Battle Network 3 and X4/Legends. These games are the embodiment of their era and platform yet almost never make top lists, they barely even get mentioned half the time not even dishonorably.... It's sad man.
When games share the same flaws, yet one is loved and the other is hated, is the definition of overrated. Or at least thats what the definition ahould be. My only beef with OoT is that the controls/gameplay is awful. The concept of waiting for an enemy to turn around then attack gets old after a while. Camera angles were awful, especially when doing puzzles. Using bombs was difficult. Being told how to store bombs every time you pick it up is annoying, etc. If OoT wasnt a zelda game it would have been a flop.
I've never seen anyone eat a banana like that, and I've watched a LOT of people eat bananas. Subbed because of that visionary banana eating.....plus games n stuff...
I'd think OOT is propably one of if not the biggest nostaglia trap. Was it the greatest game ever when it released? Propably! Is it an important game? Definitely! Is it still one of the best games ever made today? I absolutely do not think so after 25 years of quality of life improvements in gaming. Put a big enough group of gamers to the test that weren't born yet when the game released or do not have any nostaglia for it and let them decide whether it can still hold up to modern games of the same genre.
Its because the internet has allowed people to be easily tribal. So now “I don’t like it” has become “I don’t like it.. and I must fight against everyone who does” Waste of life
To quote the irreverent Michael Caine, “some people want to watch the world burn.” No matter how good, good for them or benefits everyone, they will hate for the sake of hate.
Ocarina of time is the only game I ever pre-ordered. I still remember going down to my local game store in the mall to get the collectors edition with prima magazine!
The term "overrated" (as well as "underrated") implies people are wrong for liking (or disliking) a game. I understand that what one really mean is that there's flaws or tropes other people are either missing or letting slip past scrutiny or that the are other, better games to play. Still, the term is pretty useless when discussing good or bad games. "Overlooked" or "under appreciated", now, those are terms I can accept for games that deserves more exposure! In the end, we like what we like and if something is liked by a majority (but not by you) it just shows that you have a superior intellect and other people are stupid and biased. Bye, bye, I win!
Well, I'm not gonna lie... I'm always ecstatic when a new trashy Sonic game comes out, because I'm feeding on the tears of that Stockholm Syndromed fanbase.
Yeah, in general I'm really happy that so many people will get to play the games. They never re-release it anywhere. I'm a bit worried that it's limited release will just make the price of the re-release shoot up as well.
@@PilaCiu Also the bonus stages. You can't retry them if you fail, you only have a certain amount of tries to get 7 emeralds to be Super Sonic in this. If you play this without save states, The Sega Genesis game.
