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Overwatch 2 is a Pay 2 Win Disaster
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@SnakeSkinz
@SnakeSkinz 8 месяцев назад
I know the 6v6 argument is beatijg a dead horse, but i truly believe the tank role can never be appropriately balanced with having only one in the role
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
It all stems from them going 5v5 I honestly don't know how it not being talked about. Maybe most of the playerbase started in ow2 and never got to experience 6v6 idk but 5v5 is legit a snoozefest!
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
This is very true
@jonahp1127
@jonahp1127 8 месяцев назад
Yep removing two players from the lobby made the maps feel barren, heavily simplified the game, and made balancing harder because with less variables, each one has a relatively greater impact.
@SnakeSkinz
@SnakeSkinz 8 месяцев назад
​@@fullnelson4986Exactly. To add on to this, the reason why it's so inherently difficult to balance is because having only one in the role drastically affects its impact on the game. If you make it too strong, one player controls the whole lobby. If you make it too weak, they become cosmetic. If you focus too much on counterplay, then the "tank diff" is easily noticeable. This wasn't an issue in OW1 as you had another tank who could make up the difference and added a true tempo to team play. Every other role has another slot that can make up for someone underperforming or being counter picked, but not tank.
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
@@SnakeSkinz it's it amazes me that the devs after 9 seasons fail to see that like who's bright idea was it to go 5v5? I really would love to know. Guess they wanna die on that hill of 5v5 alongside with there game...🤦🏾
@inahacim6582
@inahacim6582 8 месяцев назад
It's time to face the reality. Everything that was pitched as ow2 failed. It's time for the devs to let go of 5v5 and bring back the 6th player. But we know they are too stubborn and will nearly flat line THIS game before they do so. No version of this game will ever reach or surpass the heights of the original. Also, to accept 5v5 over 6v6 is basically just settling for an inferior game. Tank role is severely handicapped in ow2 that they have to be completely busted to be relevant and still fail to make up for the responsibilities of the missing tank. It's time to just admit they had to come up with ideas to package with free to play/shop model to not make themselves look bad and that each of those ideas failed and we are just left with the ftp/shop model. This game was always peak at 6v6. It needs to comeback.
@WorldKeepsSpinnin
@WorldKeepsSpinnin 8 месяцев назад
If you go back in dev interviews on blizzcon, devs who are STILL ON THE TEAM TODAY. They literally say why they chose 6v6 originally and i quote “It was more fun and each player had less impact on the game overall. Any less and it felt like 1 person’s mistake ruined everything; any more and they felt you had no personal agency” THEY KNEW, from the start that 6v6 was way better and they STILL KNOW. And yet we are stuck with the version of the where i quote them again “1 persons mistake ruins the whole game” aka 5v5 and thats not even the worse parts of 5v5 either.
@PhatBastard4677
@PhatBastard4677 8 месяцев назад
​@@WorldKeepsSpinnin The fact we never got to play 6v6 with reworked Orisa is fucking crazy. Could you imagine playing nowadays in 6v6 playing Junekr Queen or Tankfist as off-Tank?
@garikek
@garikek 8 месяцев назад
​@@PhatBastard4677junker queen, rein/ram, Lucio is such a nice dream. Or ball doom tracer echo dive. Holy fucking shit. But nah, 1 tank is all we have 😢
@garikek
@garikek 8 месяцев назад
@@anthonymercado8126 It quite literally is going to be the same, except even worse for supports. If we go with one DPS then let me give you an example. You're on junkertown attack. Enemy goes widow. You lose the widow 1v1 consistently. You go sombra. They die and go bastion/torb. You swap to Hanzo/sojourn. They swap to widow. And the cycle continues. If we go with one support then first of all: you die - the fight is lost instantly. Not almost lost like we have now when losing a flex DPS, but guaranteed lost. Secondly what the fuck is zen, mercy, Lucio gonna do? Mercy dmg boost would become obsolete since you gotta heal and heal. Lucio might be able to keep up, but then his speed is useless because like mercy you just gotta heal and heal. Zen is just fucked period. And with supports it's generally different since they don't necessarily have counters. But what's clear is they are gonna be healing non-stop. The role will really be called healer in that version of overwatch. And to accommodate for the lack of second support you would need to have 2 immortalities, 15 escape abilities, 400hp and a healing passive without a cooldown. All that is needed because if you die the team instantly dies. Supports are busted already, imagine if they were also gigabuffed on top of that to compensate for the loss of the second support. I don't wanna even imagine. TL;DR: it would be the same shit with DPS. It would be literally unplayable with only one support.
@erikrulez17
@erikrulez17 8 месяцев назад
if there is enough community conversation about it. it will change. i'm betting September they'll announce 6v6 november we will get it. January / feb the game will finally be balanced enough to play.
@TogeTheGoat
@TogeTheGoat 8 месяцев назад
Leaving the game to buy the battle pass is OUTRAGEOUS 😭😭😭
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto 8 месяцев назад
ya that is pretty sad lol. stupid blizzard.
@jaipasdidees7133
@jaipasdidees7133 8 месяцев назад
being forced to do it is outrageous
@TogeTheGoat
@TogeTheGoat 8 месяцев назад
True 😔
@RyuNoZero
@RyuNoZero 8 месяцев назад
Outrageous, Hilarious, Pathetic, take your pick ^^
@ahmed_naeim
@ahmed_naeim 8 месяцев назад
imagine if he lost after that
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 8 месяцев назад
Mauga is the strongest evidence that 5v5 wasn't the move. I'd be happy if we get 6v6 back, even if it's just an Arcade mode and nothing more.
@heiko2255
@heiko2255 8 месяцев назад
No, 5v5 is abysmal, 6v6 has to come back and become the main mode in QP and Ranked Fuck 5v5, ruined the game way to much and turned it into a braindead Deathmatch
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 8 месяцев назад
@@heiko2255 I feel the same way about 5v5 but Team 4 will never go that far. Realistic scenario is it's just brought back as an Arcade mode and nothing more.
@DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu
@DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu 8 месяцев назад
the queue is 10 times faster. what u talking about lil bro? which one is dying? @@hugo-zi6gm
@blesstalks
@blesstalks 8 месяцев назад
I like playing open comp, sometimes I get to do two tanks again, I know it's not the same as 6v6 but it's something...
@d4mephisto
@d4mephisto 8 месяцев назад
Sam is like the child in a family who calls out Mom or Dad for being an alcoholic, or abusive, or being a bad parent. Sam the truth teller. He takes the fall, even tho he isn't the problem. He's just the only one to say the quiet parts out loud.
@Ray-rt1og
@Ray-rt1og 8 месяцев назад
GAWK GAWK GAWK GAWK
@JustJonFr
@JustJonFr 8 месяцев назад
Swallowing it whole
@BroBruhBruv
@BroBruhBruv 8 месяцев назад
Sam the type of kid to put ketchup packets under the toilet seats in the school bathrooms
@JustJonFr
@JustJonFr 8 месяцев назад
@Osrsw31 Blizzard sucks ass but this dude in the comments dickriding hard over a 15 minute rant video
@wwiald
@wwiald 8 месяцев назад
Just kiss him already bro
@reigner-brown
@reigner-brown 8 месяцев назад
Left back in late 2022. One of the biggest disasters in gaming history. What a fall from grace.
@Juan-GC
@Juan-GC 8 месяцев назад
Now that Kotick is gone, soon we’ll know who the real problem was anyway.
@isaacargesmith8217
@isaacargesmith8217 8 месяцев назад
probably not soon, more like in like maybe half a year given how long their dev cycles apparently are
@Flightkid90
@Flightkid90 8 месяцев назад
I can tell you from a relative that works for Blizzard it isn't all Bobby's fault. The lead devs apparently play a role but ofc he didn't get into details in fear of his employment...but I'm sure the Nuess or wtfever how you say his name probably is a major reason
@garikek
@garikek 8 месяцев назад
But the ass lickers will find a new scapegoat, probably Phil Spencer, even though he definitely doesn't give a slightest of fucks about overwatch. Also samito is partly at fault as well for always saying that Aaron Keller and Jared neuss are good guys and he likes them. For us they are blizzard employees and not friends. Stop treating them like your friends and treat them like workers. They don't do their job properly and need to be held accountable. Until streamers stop saying "good guy this, good guy that" and start saying "these motherfuckers like Aaron Keller and Jared neuss do absolutely nothing to make the game better" the devs will never be held accountable for their irredeemable actions.
@DriplessShrimp
@DriplessShrimp 8 месяцев назад
​@@Flightkid90Jared said QP is practically comp and him and the devs play QP. Definitely a problem
@BloodRain222
@BloodRain222 8 месяцев назад
@@Flightkid90”my dad works at xbox” vibes yea ok bruh
@JA-kr1lz
@JA-kr1lz 8 месяцев назад
1 tank will never be balance-able. 5v5 was a mistake. On a side note, I genuinely despise Push and Flashpoint. I rarely ever play on the old OW1 maps now but they are just so much better than the trash they’ve added in OW2. I genuinely miss 2CP too
@Vizorfam
@Vizorfam 8 месяцев назад
Very true
@RD-um9dy
@RD-um9dy 8 месяцев назад
I think this is a nostalgia take. Flashpoint is fine, it’s fun and new. I agree push is frustrating at times, but 2cp was terrible and does not need to come back
@RealHamsterdam
@RealHamsterdam 8 месяцев назад
2cp was really garbage. I think you're just remembering the good times on those maps and not when your whole team gets full held for the whole match
@dustintrips3168
@dustintrips3168 6 месяцев назад
@@alexthebat-uy5be I actually dislike flash point and like push lol. Flash point is just normal control point with a little movement not enough to make it really dynamic or game changing. You cap a point kill the team go to the next point. Push is a payload both teams can take control over its interesting. Where the robot sprints back to your side fairly fast it's a interesting factor.
@Doythedino
@Doythedino 8 месяцев назад
I audibly LAUGHED when I read in one of the dev blogs that the devs say hard counters don't exist in overwatch anymore. It's clear that none of them play tanks, and I can't even blame them for how shitty it feels. Still, I'll blame them for introducing braindead metas like mauga mirror and butchering fan favourite characters like Reinhardt.
@AMellowz
@AMellowz 8 месяцев назад
that dev blog was published leading up to the release of ow2 but it’s clear to see things didn’t go as they planned so I’d be interested to see them address bc clearly the design philosophy they intended hasn’t panned out and also they can’t use that as an excuse to keep heroes in the battlepass bc counter picking is real
@dustintrips3168
@dustintrips3168 6 месяцев назад
Mauga kinda sucks imo. Orisa ftw.
@Doythedino
@Doythedino 6 месяцев назад
@@dustintrips3168 Well, now, you would right, but the point I was making is that 5v5 overwatch has just devolved to what is was fated to be from the start - tanks being bullied by everyone else with the only escape being to counterswap to newer, worse designed heroes.
@dactius5022
@dactius5022 8 месяцев назад
If you left OW untouched since 2017 it would be in a way better state than it is today. I am seriously jealous of the TF2 community that's just been left alone.
@WorldKeepsSpinnin
@WorldKeepsSpinnin 8 месяцев назад
Even 2022 pre overwatch 2 launch overwatch is better then what we have now with double shield still kinda being a thing. The game was extremely balanced and everything except like doomfist and kinda genji could be played with no issues
@kyleisreal_tv
@kyleisreal_tv 8 месяцев назад
Bro 4real
@imrendered
@imrendered 8 месяцев назад
i actually loved the abandoned years
@isaacargesmith8217
@isaacargesmith8217 8 месяцев назад
We literally cannot play our casual game mode servers because of how infested the game has become with bots. Us being left alone means we literally means the official servers are unplayabe, I was LITERALLY unable to play like at least three forths of the matches i had for the new community made maps released for the christmas update because of just HOW BAD its gotten, and Im being G E N E R O U S to valve with the "three fourths unplayable games" part. Dont be jealous, we LITERALLY cant play the game usually unless we go to community servers, which many of which are dead or arent that good because casual mode and quickplay themselves killed most of those community server due to people just using casual for the past decade instead due to the conveniance and due to the community server browser being overly outdated and kinda crap. There's almost no where to go to play a normal game of vanilla tf2 that isnt 2fort. Even in games that ARE playable bots sooner or later will just force you out of the servers by flooding them in groups and mass vote kicking people out.
@Zical100
@Zical100 8 месяцев назад
no it is not, the only real problem here is mauga overpowered
@n0questi0n
@n0questi0n 8 месяцев назад
Overwatch 2 is about making money not about players enjoying the game
@ExcuseMyDerp
@ExcuseMyDerp 8 месяцев назад
Why does everyone act like capitalism doesn’t exist in America? Y’all want communism instead?
@DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu
@DmMoiMienNamke.mandimoiroNgu 8 месяцев назад
the queue is 10 times faster. what u talking about lil bro? which one is dying? @heiko2255
@pav5971
@pav5971 8 месяцев назад
I agree with samito 100%. Plz start a 6v6 petition samito. Ill sign.
@jimmyjab8744
@jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад
fr
@mckookie2967
@mckookie2967 8 месяцев назад
I'm convinced that theres no playlist for it in arcade cos it would be too popular lmao
@brandonray4493
@brandonray4493 8 месяцев назад
I was a tank main for 6 years and I won't play the role anymore. Tank is boring, 1 dimensional, and inherently weak because it's 100% reliant on the supports.
@pav5971
@pav5971 8 месяцев назад
Agreed.I was sigma main in ow1. Tank is boring in 5v5 . I just dps now. Sombra ,tracer
@shawngorski9714
@shawngorski9714 8 месяцев назад
I was team 5v5 until I realised these devs cant balance anything, I still think 5v5 could be great but the devs have no idea how to make it great and I was stupid to believe they could do the proper changes to make it work, at least in 6v6 despite all its problems we had a working system in place already so the devs wouldnt need to break their brains trying to make it work. I mean realistically all we need is for the game to finally have healthy skill curves, because than your verity in picks comes from the individual players skill and not what the heros counter and dont counter as much, and the deve said that would be a bonus of 5v5 and than spat in our faces with 10 bastion buffs 😂 so I'm team 6v6 now simply cause I know these devs cant do it.
@vendetasebastian8867
@vendetasebastian8867 8 месяцев назад
It's a combination of an out of touch hero design team and a greedy company.
@QB.113
@QB.113 8 месяцев назад
Honey, wake up: New Samito video essay dunking on OW2 just dropped.
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
@@e.b.9702 😂
@stazzy5858
@stazzy5858 8 месяцев назад
because he loves the game despite all it's fault fam. This vid isn't to trash on OW2, it's to raise awareness @@e.b.9702. So much for trying to get the point
@Cybrtronlazr
@Cybrtronlazr 8 месяцев назад
I have been saying two things since the launch of OW2. 5v5 was a mistake. Nothing justifies locking heroes behind a grind or paywall in a fast-paced immediate counterpick game like OW. For people that mention other games like LoL or Valorant, only reason it works in Valorant is because that game is so fundamentally different in every aspect than OW, with other things to bail you out of not switching, such as not being able to see enemy team comp and not being able to switch characters mid-game, as well as the guns being able to carry regardless of who you are playing. In League, you counterpick on champion select and someone has to pick first so essentially you are evened out in terms of someone who wins and loses lane on each team (usually), and even then with a banning system you can ban your counters, and you can't switch in the middle of the game like in OW. Even if you lose early game, you can get ahead by farming more minions instead of getting kills until you are strong enough to get kills. OW is so fundamentally different no argument holds.
@Yibambe5253
@Yibambe5253 8 месяцев назад
PREACH!!
@KiraMahMan
@KiraMahMan 8 месяцев назад
Don't forget the item shop in league allowing you to lower the advantage your counter has on you even if it's just a little bit.
@nickp8041
@nickp8041 8 месяцев назад
the reason it works in other games and not overwatch is extremely simple, It's because other games have draft modes but overwatch allowes people to switch a character at any point during a match.
@Cybrtronlazr
@Cybrtronlazr 8 месяцев назад
@@KiraMahMan yup, you can buy certain boots and items to counter heavy AP or AD champions or some health items to be less squishy against assassins or anything.
@Cybrtronlazr
@Cybrtronlazr 8 месяцев назад
@@nickp8041 not necessarily true, because even then if we had a draft system RIGHT NOW it would still be Pay to Win. A drafting system won't solve anything. This is because people KNOW Mauga and Kiriko are overpowered, and if they are missing those characters then the teams that don't have them are already at a huge disadvantage than someone that doesn't. Even now, if someone starts on Rein or JQ and faces a Mauga, they have option to switch (if they have the character ofc). Not being able to switch and playing a Rein vs Mauga would be a horrible experience.
@mattman3716
@mattman3716 8 месяцев назад
As sad as it is to say, the Competitive integrity of this game has never been what they care about. That guy leaving and buying the battle pass just proves that fact further. It’s all about the $’s. Who cares if the game is competitive or fair when they can just make all their money by selling skins and battle passes? Until competitiveness is more valuable than money it will never change. This game will never completely die but it will be that C list game just existing. Appreciate you Sam, thank you for all you do and the effort you put into that work.
@mtn_dewsh
@mtn_dewsh 8 месяцев назад
No competitive game should have characters locked behind a paywall period. You should always be able to unlock characters with in-game currency or without needing to grind hours to unlock them just to be at an even playing field.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 8 месяцев назад
Imagine if the AWP was behind a paywall in CS
@Yukeena
@Yukeena 8 месяцев назад
But can't you get Mauga for free? So technically, he isn't locked behind a paywall? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
@dogf421
@dogf421 8 месяцев назад
honestly, i dont think multiplayer pvp games should have any unlockable non cosmetic options (everything should be unlocked from the start). even in the best case scenario it feels a little gross to get killed by a player using something you dont have just because you haven't invested enough time into the game yet.
@Star_Rattler
@Star_Rattler 8 месяцев назад
having to unlock characters in the first place is fucking stupid. i've played other shooter games were i wanted to just play the games and play the characters with the abilities i wanted, but got stuck in Baby Mode with the Baby characters with basic abilities until i played a LOT to play the Big Gamer characters. It's an instant turn off if I can't just play what I want when I want and have to spend time in Baby Jail doing my time slaving away until I can play the characters that are better than John Videogame.
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
Honestly a joke what this game has become and we thought the ow1 2020 drought was bad😂. God If I could only back
@cachinco2681
@cachinco2681 8 месяцев назад
I literally climbed from diamond 3 to gm 5 playing mauga. Everytime I would nearly lose or struggle I was yelled at to switch. So instead of losing and learning I've been climbing unfairly and now when he gets nuked I am going to inevitably throw tons of games going back down the ladder. I guess I have to adjust quickly. I don't even think half the people who picked mauga enjoyed being forced up the ladder with brain dead game play knowing full well they are going to lose shit tons when he is nerfed. I have legitimately lost the will to play.
@2px_
@2px_ 8 месяцев назад
i really want to know who was primarily responsible for mauga. the fact that somebody was probably proud of creating that thing before it entered ranked is hilarious. probs the same monkeys responsible for 2018 brig and 2017 mercy rework. this game is a joke
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
There is a new person designing heroes
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
​@SamitoFPS we got a new Geoff Goodman in the house
@PhatBastard4677
@PhatBastard4677 8 месяцев назад
​@@SamitoFPSWho is it? In the words of Peter Griffin: "I just wanna talk to him.."
@davidnewhart2533
@davidnewhart2533 8 месяцев назад
Mauga is nowhere near as bad as 2018 Brigitte or 2017 Mercy rework. Get out here with this copium bro. Actual Skill issue. 😂
@kylepangilinan9075
@kylepangilinan9075 8 месяцев назад
@@davidnewhart2533 Mercy main here. Will never forget how in an attempt to remove mass res, they gave her the ability to res 4 people while flying at the speed of sound. I do miss the 25 damage glock though
@trevitone1111
@trevitone1111 8 месяцев назад
"Most streamers have an affiliation with Blizzard" is a huge sign that we really shouldn't take anything the other streams say if they're that afraid of losing free battle passes.
@Nayutune
@Nayutune 8 месяцев назад
It's not even the battle passes/coins or whatever - they can easily afford all of that. What really matters there is all the connections with developers and events they get flown out to for that "exclusive content" that drives the channel's engagement.
@trevitone1111
@trevitone1111 8 месяцев назад
@Nayutune I can agree with that, but one of my biggest arguments for PvE is that the price sucked for the experience. However some streamers such as flats said it was a good time with friends but I'm sure it is when they all got it for free.
@Dagaz_art
@Dagaz_art 8 месяцев назад
Since Bobby the PIG is gone, Blizzard has absolutely no excuse anymore NOT going full back to OW1 and the promises for OW2 and remove all the damage that has been done!
@S3nCh4n
@S3nCh4n 8 месяцев назад
i'm begging for lootboxes to come back, at least there will be a reason to grind again. no one needs shitty souvenirs and voice lines from the battle pass
@Dagaz_art
@Dagaz_art 8 месяцев назад
@@S3nCh4n people deserved the phase we´re in right now. I always said since release that the lootbox-system of OW is the best of all games in compare and everyone was shitting on it. Poeple dont realize when they have a great time.
@mckookie2967
@mckookie2967 8 месяцев назад
​@@Dagaz_artloot boxes in other games were ass and ruined it for ow
@jkvltra804
@jkvltra804 8 месяцев назад
Bobby K was a slimy business man but really he was just the person the OW creators felt safer dunking on. They just wanted to pretend OW devs are perfect angels levitating above us all but really they are ass.
@kenerb654
@kenerb654 8 месяцев назад
OW1 will never come back, give up on this pipe dream. It’s getting sad
@lucan465
@lucan465 8 месяцев назад
People who are still team 5v5 have to start embracing reality. Overwatch 2 is an abomination of the original.
@RyuNoZero
@RyuNoZero 8 месяцев назад
..not just because of 5v5 though^^
@lucan465
@lucan465 8 месяцев назад
@@RyuNoZero na, so much more hey. Greed, wokeness, pretty much all of the original visionaries of the game are gone…. And they still blatantly lie to the community, and the suits still get in the way of the creatives, and puppeteer too much…
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 8 месяцев назад
@@lucan465 What is wokeness?
@fullnelson4986
@fullnelson4986 8 месяцев назад
​​@@lucan465still wondering why fired Jesse mcree and changed his name when it turns out he was innocent 🤔
@vopcracker3193
@vopcracker3193 8 месяцев назад
​@@hugo-zi6gmit's meaningless, he's just angry at the game
@pancakekidgaming8273
@pancakekidgaming8273 8 месяцев назад
Flats is obtuse about the 6v6 debate. Sam has been consistent and predicted this exact issue.
@DjNaste
@DjNaste 8 месяцев назад
Flats isn't obtuse. He's obviously been shilling to support his own livelihood. Not that I have a problem with that, a man's gotta eat. Just calling it like it is.
@galivar607
@galivar607 8 месяцев назад
BRING BACK 6v6, free heroes, sr number, borders, find group, loot boxes, jeff kaplan. REMOVE the 2
@CGTradez
@CGTradez 8 месяцев назад
6v6 was amazing in the pro scene but trash irl. The outrageous number of 1 tricks tanks forced other tank to play around them or lose. As tank player I made it my priority to learn all tanks & it heavily benefits me in OW2 as I can flex to what my team wants to play or what map I play, I’m in dorado, I play ball, playing control I go Winton, they got bastion? I go Sig.. 5v5 rewards u for flexibility & not depend on a 6 man CC team to kill 1 person
@mangodxwns
@mangodxwns 8 месяцев назад
@@CGTradezthis is a good point but I also think 6v6 would fix a lot of balance issues! Playing tank wouldnt feel so one sided (roll or be rolled) if there were 2 of them🥲
@jimmyjab8744
@jimmyjab8744 8 месяцев назад
u cant just being jeff back but i agree for the most part with the rest
@CGTradez
@CGTradez 8 месяцев назад
@@mangodxwns yes it would fix that & also going 2 5v5 it made people learn to play without a shield
@rudyramirez125
@rudyramirez125 8 месяцев назад
This Samito pilled comment, lmfao.
@_yuno_gasai
@_yuno_gasai 8 месяцев назад
90% of the issues of ow2 would be solved by 6v6 and getting rid of the battle pass
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 8 месяцев назад
Good luck sustaining a F2P Live-service model without one.
@cherrebearTTV
@cherrebearTTV 8 месяцев назад
@@hugo-zi6gm valorant works without locking characters behind a paywall, its f2p and live service and all u get from spending money is cosmetics '-'
@fistofram5526
@fistofram5526 8 месяцев назад
@@hugo-zi6gm It's almost like they went 4+ years before that lol
@hugo-zi6gm
@hugo-zi6gm 8 месяцев назад
@@fistofram5526 Holy crap, Overwatch was free 4 years ago?
@fistofram5526
@fistofram5526 8 месяцев назад
@@hugo-zi6gm Stupid or troll? xd
@nathanhaire63
@nathanhaire63 8 месяцев назад
A LOT of people forget that overwatch won game of the year, how far we fell from glory…
@VexuhL
@VexuhL 8 месяцев назад
“I think there’s something really gross about games that put a new hero in the game and it’s super OP for three months to drive people to buy it” - Jared Neuss
@markoniksic3630
@markoniksic3630 8 месяцев назад
I love this game i just cant bring myself to play it anymore, im done. Introducing a new hero that is locked behind a pay wall is a disgrace, Blizzard should just go bankrupt if you ask me, they had a good run, enough is enough.
@erikhendrickson59
@erikhendrickson59 8 месяцев назад
We're at a point now where people are playing competitive with *_multiple_* Heroes locked behind a paywall. And that's both unacceptable and incompatible with any sort-of "competitive integrity."
@sobervision1049
@sobervision1049 8 месяцев назад
Its so sad because I see people in my rank matches all the time being bullied and called trash because they didnt spend money on the game in order to even the odds. Players getting mad too much at each other and not enough at the entire production team.
@Nube_Negrah
@Nube_Negrah 8 месяцев назад
He's free tho
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 8 месяцев назад
What multiple heroes only 1 per season and it grindable if you miss it you have to grind and the grind isn't even bad 45 BP levels is easy even for noobs and 30 game are also easy and that s even if you lose all 30 game and not win once I don't think this farm is out of this world that might be because I'm a warframe player but it s not enough to be pay to win
@__Jah__
@__Jah__ 8 месяцев назад
I honestly want to just queue into open queue comp and take 3 tank Ana Kiri all the way to rank 1 just to make a point. They never fixed any of the problems even going back to GOATS; all the Overwatch team ever has done is tweak numbers and change the format when player finally realized that it’s not a “these heroes need higher numbers” problem. They did it with GOATS and we got role lock, and again with Double Shield at the end of OW and the introduction of 5v5. *When* they implement swap limits for whatever misguided reason it will actually mark the death of what Overwatch was.
@ozman5466
@ozman5466 8 месяцев назад
Mauga being broken so bad reminded me of Brig's launch in OW1 and how shit the game was afterwards. I ended up quitting the tank role because it is so obvious it is Pay to Play. I play DPS now....I can't go back to Tank anymore.
@miguel555678
@miguel555678 8 месяцев назад
There is zero chance that overwatch improves its monetization practices without being forced to to so. Also I agree with you about 6v6 being better for balance
@Cms7899
@Cms7899 8 месяцев назад
I think the problem is most of the playerbase is casual and DPS/support players. All of the tank players know 5v5 is busted. It puts more pressure on the single tank to perform and makes balancing way harder.
@ta13s93
@ta13s93 8 месяцев назад
I bought ow1 twice. Once physical, then digital replacement. Full price both times. Then Blizzard erased all my stats, skins, emotes, etc etc and has been trying to sell them back to me ever since. Imagine somebody stole your house, then tried selling you the door for the same price of the house. Thats Blizzard. Blizzard did that.
@dethbedsmolzwhent.t6498
@dethbedsmolzwhent.t6498 8 месяцев назад
That's why I play Open Queue it's superior in every way. You're not locked into a roll ( which a lot of you all wanted) even when it was 6v6 me personally did not like role queue. With this 5v5 system you're REALLY feeling the effects being locked into a single roll.
@ParanormalShaqtivity
@ParanormalShaqtivity 8 месяцев назад
Sam, I don't always agree with you, but I always respect your takes. You're 100% right on this one. The only things that can change it are either slowing down the money printer or creators like yourself speaking up. Keep doing what you're doing.
@Trevitive
@Trevitive 8 месяцев назад
I agree. I've been saying this since the start of new heroes in the battle pass. It's such a bad practice. It's only purpose is to make people buy the battle pass because it makes blizzard money.
@DeathForSk8
@DeathForSk8 8 месяцев назад
Dont forget the company who is in charge of overwatch is the same company that released the most predatory game in the history of video games - diablo immortal It is naive to expect them to ever have any shame or dignity
@dokushi
@dokushi 8 месяцев назад
I only had ONE Reinhardt game throughout this entire season. Everyone is playing ball, mauga, and Orisa and I barely see any Reinhardt players. And the one time I do is when I'm playing qp. No one plays him in comp and you'll only really see him if the comp he's running is rush, dive, or he's playing defence with a defence heavy comp
@khitboksy3689
@khitboksy3689 7 месяцев назад
i swear every balance problem sources back to 6v6. either the hero is shit in 5v5, was borderline broken 6v6 and op in 5v5, or was mid in 6v6 and got buffed/reworked for 5v5, and team4 trying to balance 32 heroes based on 6v6 around 5v5. no the argument isnt a 5v5 6v6 argument, but we wouldnt be having nearly as many of these videos if it was 6v6
@Dr.Mango24
@Dr.Mango24 8 месяцев назад
What happened to OW 1 was the biggest robbery in gaming history.
@maskedsausage9431
@maskedsausage9431 8 месяцев назад
It's not pay to win as their pure intentions (I believe). I honestly think this is just raw incompetence in its worst form. We've seen these inabilities to diagnose how a new hero will ruin the game, or if they are even fun to play in their own right. They just really don't know what the audience thinks is fun. We need actual core game modes that don't involve holding a point more than another team. We need a proper message that they will take the game a certain way, because right now it feels like they are trying to balance the game around just the tank role, while keeping the other roles close to as much efficacy as the tank. Which is dumb because there are two DPS and two Support per team. All tanks should act as if they are two heroes in one (super hard to kill/oppressive), or all DPS and Supports should be less potent. It's just a huge mess, right now.
@herzogvoncoelln5886
@herzogvoncoelln5886 8 месяцев назад
Thank you Sam for that pure fact spitting. Exactly that situation burns me holes in my heart and i cant play more than one or two round s before i quit in anger and even start again with an bad mood and stomachpain. i hate to love this game!!!
@RanserSSF4
@RanserSSF4 8 месяцев назад
I find it funny how for a while, since OW2 was confirmed to be going the 5v5 format, outside of a few sceptical about it and giving it a chance, barely anyone complained or pointed out its big flaws even after the honeymoon phase wore off, and it only started happening after PVE got cancelled (The skill tree part at least) and Samito made that vod afterwards. I'm not saying Samito is wrong on many of the flaws 5v5 brought to the table, I just think it's funny.
@jonahlynx94
@jonahlynx94 7 месяцев назад
The worst part is I can never pop in Overwatch 1 which I paid for and play the game I actually enjoyed.
@bagel040
@bagel040 8 месяцев назад
i saw this and figured i would correct you, because i actually slightly like how they implemented it. Illari is not 50 wins to unlock, but 50 games played, with wins counting twice. This made unlocking it through challenges actually feel like i was always making progress. Now that im unlocking wifeleaver, it just feels terrible getting the wins.
@Jack06121995
@Jack06121995 8 месяцев назад
Thank you again Sam, you're the only streamer that tells why I left the game I loved, keep it going! For everybody like me who loved this game but left, maybe, if the game will change in a better way, we will return!
@thebearded4427
@thebearded4427 8 месяцев назад
Heres my take: Making any single role stronger than the others is just a brainless move. Look at any other team game where you can always counter play even if tanks are a very real aspect of gameplay. The difference is that items differentiates game style where items act as tank shredders. OW2 5v5 would have worked with some sort of itemization where you could actually counterplay instead of going "oh i guess im just dead then" which is just insanely boring. They went 5v5 because the tanks were so insanely boring to play and were so unbalanced that there was no way to switch up no matter your skill level, and to salvage QUES, NOT GAME PLAY, removed a tank while ALSO REWORKING/REBALANCING tanks! I mean WTF?! OW1 had comps like dive, rein/zar, hog/orisa, shield comp, bubbledive where you could counter play against the other team but a tanks skill would determine the outcome of a fight (like a dva soaking backline while rein starts an engage and so on). This is gone completely. I played the entirety of OW1 from beta to shutdown but i couldnt stand OW2 for more than 1 season. Baseline is that ActiBlizz screwed every single player in: PvE, PvP, Wallets, development, hopes, dreams and any form of competitive integrity. Honestly i dont think team 4 will do anything. Its just going to bleed out and they will reallocated resources to new developments.
@ta13s93
@ta13s93 8 месяцев назад
Not only should it be 6v6 again as it was objectively better for the game, but they should add a vote-to-ban hero each comp match (like other successful esports games) because that'd actually help with the hard counter issue.
@pewpew518
@pewpew518 8 месяцев назад
I think its worst than pay to win. OW has what 40 heroes? 1. ONE single hero can completely make or break the game. One single comp can completely take over the game. In OW META isn't most effective tactic available. Its the only tactic available.
@trevorbergstrom00
@trevorbergstrom00 8 месяцев назад
Samito, save the game we all used to love. You're the only content creator with a spine that speaks the truth even when its not comfortable. What they've done to the game has made me drop gaming altogether. Trust issues 😞
@roan280
@roan280 8 месяцев назад
The game is dead and they stab another dagger in to it to make sure it wont live ever again. RIP Overwatch :(
@b1uezje
@b1uezje 8 месяцев назад
I played since launch and until the launch of OW2. I gave them so many chances, so many times. I can't do it anymore, I want to like this game and I loved it for years, but they've proven to me that they're incompetent and don't deserve my time. They will never make this game good. How many years have we waited for things to get better? The OW team is incompetent and they don't deserve any of your money or time. This game will never ever reach the heights that OW1 reached. It will die in mediocrity. I think abt my time in OW1 and I remember it fondly, but that will never come back.
@reddragon2943
@reddragon2943 8 месяцев назад
PVE was a FUCKEN LIE!!! This small indie Company could not put out what they promised.
@plaqued9526
@plaqued9526 8 месяцев назад
Good call out on the affiliated streamers trying to save face for the company. Almost more disgusting than the company itself. And they'll 100% play a part in this guttural atrocity of a format change continuing to greif the player experience.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 8 месяцев назад
As someone who said this was going to be a problem the first time Blizz mentioned that new heroes would be behind a battle pass, it pleases me to see it's actually finally getting some attention. Only took a little over a year, but at least the ball is rolling now. Heroes should NEVER BE IN A BATTLE PASS. Kotick is gone, MS is footing the bill now. We can afford to apply actual game integrity again. RIGHT?
@jonathanj.3695
@jonathanj.3695 7 месяцев назад
I used to love this game and I used to think that it had the potential to be just as big as League of Legends in the eSports scene. Sadly...Overwatch rapidly became a dumpster fire over the years. It all started with the new heroes causing massive balance problems along with the nerfing and reworking of older heroes (like Genji and D.Va) who honestly didn't need either of these things. Also, the Overwatch League just...sucked. The Overwatch eSports scene was WAY better before they made that stupid league.
@Strikerhero1000
@Strikerhero1000 8 месяцев назад
Yep mauga making almost all tank unplayable
@mattboh69
@mattboh69 8 месяцев назад
bring back jeff and make samito a consultant for balance
@REZEMBLENZ
@REZEMBLENZ 8 месяцев назад
6v6 is a problem solver we got way more problems in ow2 then ow1 support is literally unkillable like for example kiri against doomfist she does so much damage and if she misses her shots she just suzus or teleport shes invisable to kill
@doedelzak3914
@doedelzak3914 8 месяцев назад
0:35 this gameplay is truly peak overwatch. Glad he got added to the game
@Oldschool_Gamer_
@Oldschool_Gamer_ 8 месяцев назад
Glad to see a video backing up exactly my thoughts. Like, i remember writing this in a comment on someone else's video like half a year ago, and it feels like it's word for word. I was mocked for that opinion though, i'm glad this is starting to become a more common sentiment. What i would like to see is with these new experimental weekend things, is have them be led by the community, they play it, they know what needs fixing, adding, improving, removing... Give them a poll. let them try returning to 6v6, hell, let them test 7v7, or 12v12. Let them try removing passives Let them try whatever else is in the current balance debates online. We all have thoughts on balance, and most of us look at blizzard and see them doing more harm then good. let us prove ourselves correct like we did with WoW classic.
@phoenixbaker4591
@phoenixbaker4591 8 месяцев назад
Love how people say the game is pay to win even though it’s not, they use the term “pay to win” without even know what it is somehow… some people just can’t see the difference between pay to win and pay to get skins
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
Overwatch 2 is pay to win right now
@phoenixbaker4591
@phoenixbaker4591 8 месяцев назад
There is nothing in overwatch that shows its pay you win, if your talking about the new hero’s, no you don’t need to buy them you can literally unlock all the new hero’s in less then 25 games, Mauga right now you need to get to lvl 45 in the FREE battle pass for which is not that hard in fact that’s how most people unlocked him in the first place. Also kiriko is not an essential character to winning any game.
@novelgiani
@novelgiani 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, I feel like that if they even end up bringing back 6v6, that won't automatically fix things. Heroes have already been reworked in an attempt to accomadate 5v5, and they're going to have to revert *so much* all over again, which would be time-consuming as well as the team possibly not seeing it as worth the resource allocation. That aside, locking heroes to battle pass progression is incredibly stupid. Don't lock necessary game content behind a paywall/FOMO wall.
@mossup-
@mossup- 8 месяцев назад
I called this pay2win crap out at launch and recently Jared the dev did say they were looking into changing this pay2win, I kinda checked out of Overwatch 2 around season 3, i'll hop on and play A couple every now and then but thats about it, its just bad now, 5v5, push and flashpoint all suck, the game overall is not fun any more except when A 6v6 is setup then it becomes fun and sometimes 2cp/Assault mode in the arcade. Flashpoint also took the fun out of control maps too.
@Oldschool_Gamer_
@Oldschool_Gamer_ 8 месяцев назад
And just to point out, Lifeweaver being underpowered on release was an accident, and was quickly rectified.
@omarsali2990
@omarsali2990 8 месяцев назад
It wasnt an accident tho After hearing the complaints about soj kiri ram they decided to try and do it differently which resulted in less money and more complaints just about the character and he wasnt that bad he was just not as good and so they openly said they will continue to release strong heroes
@Oldschool_Gamer_
@Oldschool_Gamer_ 8 месяцев назад
@@omarsali2990 i agree that he wasn't as bad pre-buff as the community suggested. As a healer main, honestly, i'd heal as much on Lifeweaver as any other support.
@mrshiftyreckless7708
@mrshiftyreckless7708 8 месяцев назад
oh man wait for him to hear about siege. the new operator is locked behind the battle pass a week then you have to unlock them but you could pay...
@karlrichardson7548
@karlrichardson7548 8 месяцев назад
Uugggh, since ow has just become a "Paladins" clone, game wise anyways, they might as well continue to steal their backend solutions as well. Simply put the new hero in the battle pass so that it can be purchased immediately, if the player wants. However, if the player wants to invest time using their already unlocked heroes, to grind and earn points towards unlocking the character without spending money, thats an equally viable solution as well. The goal is always to keep players playing. The more people play, the more likely theyre going to drop some $$ on the game. If not on a new hero, then on a cosmetic or whatever. This problem has already been solved.
@cat.music.disc.
@cat.music.disc. 7 месяцев назад
remember when they said no hero's will be behind paywalls? yeah..... 😰
@yougoonie3338
@yougoonie3338 8 месяцев назад
No matter what they do, ow is rip. The entire structure of ow has been changed. NO MATTER HOW MANY PATCHES THEY MAKE, OW2 is flawed! Even with 6v6. Ow1 was the best and they deleted it... who the f does that. They made nearly half a billion off kids, buying stickers and battle passes. Such a sleezy company.
@rokkalombardi2196
@rokkalombardi2196 8 месяцев назад
Blizz lost integrity and thus isnt getting my support. I hope everyone can have fun but this game wont get a cent from me.
@Bigustdikust-oosh
@Bigustdikust-oosh 8 месяцев назад
I have a solutions - and I did this to solve the problem - delete the game and never play it again
@beanjuice6012
@beanjuice6012 8 месяцев назад
I hope they shadow drop a 6v6 quickplay or arcade mode, and keep the balance as is while slowly nerfing and buffing heros to a healthy state.
@frosty4894
@frosty4894 8 месяцев назад
When I'm on another role and loose because my tank doesn't have Mauga I say in text chat "income diff, gg". I can't wait for the balance team to gutter him in the mid season patch, like Alec said.
@beanjuice6012
@beanjuice6012 8 месяцев назад
You deserves to lose if you type that lol. Enjoy your SR loss plat chatter.
@kosmosfan01
@kosmosfan01 8 месяцев назад
Why are so many videos about this topic only coming up after they already said they were changing how heroes were gonna get released. Maybe if people were this proactive when it started with Kiriko, it would have forced the changes sooner since narratives like 'if you don't have this character, you lose' had been going on since the start with Kiriko only being free for OW1 players and others being forced to grind to tier 55 or pay up.
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
People didn't start sooner because 5v5 was unexplored territory and the guise of waiting for PvE overshadowed that conversation There also was talk that level 55 was too far in the BP
@kosmosfan01
@kosmosfan01 8 месяцев назад
@@SamitoFPS Honestly, I don't trust that there won't be a catch with the changes to heroes being available at launch somehow with clever wording after the whole Winter Fair pass. Unfortunately, Mauga did need some help after the trial and the team went off a cliff in the other direction. Maybe a little armor and that would have been fine but buffing his whole kit, then nerfing something, then buffing it again is quite the rollar coaster before going on break.
@Sioliar
@Sioliar 8 месяцев назад
Amen to that. Especially the part about staying away. Barely forced myself back into the game, flex que in QP and Mauga is in the first game. Despite me winning on JQ, it didn't feel like much of an achievement. A dozen games later and I am still unsure if it was worth it. Coming back that is.
@bmnbl
@bmnbl 7 месяцев назад
Make heroes free and people will return to the game. I was playing less OW2 and didn't managed to get Lifeweaver unlocked that season unless i bought the battle pass. Since then i stopped playing and didn't care for the game and uninstalled it hoping they would change it in the future. Sad to see they have not :(
@someoninte456
@someoninte456 8 месяцев назад
The devs want everything. They want money, they want players, they want competitive integrity, they want casuals, they want esports, they want a live service pvp game, they want a pve campaign mode. They can't and it's shocking that after over 7 and a half years since the game released, 8 years since the first beta, and 10 and a half years since Project Titan turned into Overwatch they haven't realized that yet.
@itslyz5541
@itslyz5541 8 месяцев назад
I got back into ow after not playing since 2021 and it’s sad what’s happened to the game just doesn’t feel the same
@shoeshank112
@shoeshank112 8 месяцев назад
In the Group Up interview between SVB and Jared, Jared stated that their goal is to not have the heroes in the battlepass and they are working on it. Nothing specific concrete but it's still very good news and already in the direction that Samito is wanting them to go.
@matthewbrears2129
@matthewbrears2129 8 месяцев назад
I just want 6v6 again so I don't have to cycle through counter swapping as a tank until one of us gets bored. I know OW has always been about counter picking, but it's so drastic now. Playing something you don't want to play in order to play the game... so what was the point in playing in the first place?
@catalyst2155
@catalyst2155 8 месяцев назад
5vs5 was a very poor idea considering not every tank has the same tanking abilities, you really can't turn off-tanks into main tanks. Zarya for example has guttered in this game she's a fun hero to play yet super squishy for a tank. As a Widow main I find it so much easier to kill a Zarya than any other tank in the game it's not fair if you are maining specific type of tanks, be it off-tank rather than main tank. The role and playstyle of a main tank can't be replaced by an off-tank without having to buff the tank so much that they become simply broken in the game like Muaga who doesn't possess the ability to shield and is given infinite shields to protect. Orisa the same also, now that she doesn't possess the ability to barrier and is made to be unkillable. These changes are super unhealthy for the game as it doesn't reward skill. Blizzard has found every way to nerf high risk and high skill cieling heroes while buffing low skill cieling heroes to give them an unfair advantage over skill-based heroes. It's crazy to me how uncompetitive this game is. If I play competitive I can't bring myself to care about rank, the system as a whole and matchmaking is completely broken , there's 0 consistency while climbing up the ranks let alone tiers. In OW1 I'd be diamond then OW2 comes and I'm put in Gold, then due to bug I'm stuck at the first tier of Gold 11x then next season comes and I start climbing to mid Diamond, and notice zero difference in gameplay. From the very beginning OW2 has felt like a beta game, so many features removed from the original game. We can't even appreciate the post-game vote cards no more which was a great feature. Rather than listen to their community, the company keeps doubling down on bad decisions.
@mag1cman777
@mag1cman777 8 месяцев назад
At this point, OW2 players need to stop playing the game and be vocal about the fact that they're doing it. If you're still playing the game at this point, you are encouraging Blizzard to keep doing all the dumb shit that they do, and are part of the reason the gaming industry as a whole is starting to fall to shit. Don't be selfish; stop letting companies get away with shit like this.
@angrygamer1478
@angrygamer1478 8 месяцев назад
The fact that thinking 5vs5 will be easier to balance than 6vs6 is complete stupidity. considering the game overwatch1 was already balanced around 6vs6. and was quite balanced at the end of overwatch1. the problem with making the game 5vs5 when it is balanced around 6vs6. Is that most of the old chars gonna end up either to strong in a 5vs5 or they are to weak. or they need a rework. Which has been the case. I dont like overwatch2 bcs overwatch1 was better in every possible way. I dont see that Overwatch 2 brought anything new to the table that was good. and just been overall a downgrade and made to look like a new game. Heck overwatch 2 shop and battlepass made loot boxes look like the best thing.
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
Yeah we were all wrong on that one
@timothymoore2966
@timothymoore2966 8 месяцев назад
They dying on the hill of 5v5. Goofy
@sinksinksink
@sinksinksink 8 месяцев назад
I still can't get over the fact that Overwatch 2 removed more features than it added. Kind of. Fck dude, I miss 6v6. So much. Im more of a casual player and the best memories I had with this game was playing Rein + Zarya with my best friend. Im aware that 6v6 had its fair share of problems with double shield and stuff, im not saying that it was perfect. But better than what we have right now for sure. And Mauga... yeah we all know how sh!t he is. No need to talk about this. Its a boring hero and pretty much a forced pick. Now some other things I feel like not too many people talk about. They removed progression. Completely. (I guess they kinda added it back now but honestly who cares at this point.) I grinded this game for 2000 hours. I hat a nice diamond portrait. It looked cool. Yeah it was only cosmetic but it was fking cool. Not many people had that. With OW2... It was GONE. Forever. 2000 hours for nothing. Sure it's just cosmetic but this hurt. It really hurt. Lastly- What the hell happened to the LFG feature? I remember queuing up with random people whenever my friends weren't online. It was great. Some of the people I met through looking for group are still the ones I play with and talk to frequently today. The feature is gone for absolutely no reason. Im actually just sad man... Give me Rein Zarya. Dude bring back lootboxes. Hell- HOW FKING BAD does a monetisation system have to be for people to want LOOTBOXES back??? This is just sad... Yeah this is a really long comment but i felt like i needed to express my feelings about this... maybe some of you share the same...
@SamitoFPS
@SamitoFPS 8 месяцев назад
So here’s some context that might help ya The reason LFG is gone is because the old engine was described to be like duct tape, one big roll that you couldn’t take specific pieces out of When they remade the engine, they had to remake ALL of the features, from competitive to borders if they wanted them So yeah the time that would have been spent on LFG now was spent on the shop 😂
@sinksinksink
@sinksinksink 8 месяцев назад
@@SamitoFPS Oh great. So they removed a great feature because of they insane greed. Man I love blizzard.
@os3688
@os3688 8 месяцев назад
High masters right now has a TON of Mauga boosted players and they get absolutely destroyed when they are forced to swap off because they lack game sense/mechanical skill any other hero. it's going to be a rough first few weeks when he's nerfed
@thetillman45
@thetillman45 8 месяцев назад
Riot has been doing this for years in League of Legends and no one cares. Seems like Blizzard is just adapting to modern monetization practices.
@thetillman45
@thetillman45 8 месяцев назад
BTW, I am not defending Riot. It's a bad practice. People who defend them for this are ridiculous. When a new champ comes out there's a very big chance they're busted for at least a few weeks.
@deonwalker6270
@deonwalker6270 8 месяцев назад
I don't feel like it's pure P2W since there are multiple ways you can get the heroes for free. Sure it's a clear cash grab by letting you buy them with the battle pass, but they also let you EARN it with the battle pass, and then if you miss that you just do some silly challenges then you get it. They have to be allowed to make money somehow. I feel like every way they try and make money people go apoplectic. How do you think monetization should work? Furthermore, the devs have said that they want new heroes to be on the safe side of strong on release, which I find understandable. Sure it means a certain meta will probably be forced around that hero, but it's a live service game so it's not like that will last forever. Case in point they've already said that Mauga is gonna be ubernerfed soon (I think next week but could be corrected here). Also I don't think the Devs would ever consider bringing back 6v6, unless it was maybe an arcade or QP mode only. That scene with someone leaving the game to buy the battlepass is wild though, that made me laugh.
@DotADBX
@DotADBX 8 месяцев назад
just more of the same shit I have been saying since ow2 dropped, honestly bobby kotic wasn't the only problem with blizzard the C suite of that whole company needs to be kyboshed and possibly even most of the teams that are currently employed, place is just a cesspool's of toxicity at this point now. only way to save this game is if you bring back the original team that made this game and even then its questionable if it will work without killing off all the problems at blizzard that put red tape up stopping people from making decent games. in all honesty I feel the whole gaming industry as a whole is dead/dying and theres probably nothing that will save it till it starts going back to the roots it was built from.
@MofoMan2000
@MofoMan2000 8 месяцев назад
Mauga perfectly demonstrates why 5v5 was a terrible idea. They need to undo that yesterday.
@Malxer
@Malxer 8 месяцев назад
I haven't played Overwatch in more than 2 years. The game looks so fucking boring. Like, really. Look at that "new hero" Mauga. It's literally Orisa with Reinhardt charge. I don't see anything fun with that hero specifically. Looks like utter plain boring hero design, and this applies to literally everything "new" they've shipped, and hero reworks, everything lost it's "fun" mechanics as soon as 6v6 was gutted into this 5v5 disaster of a joke. The things that made Overwatch 1 a great game died as soon as Overwatch 2 was released, turned into a glorified item store, and locking new heroes behind paywalls.
@azseal2669
@azseal2669 8 месяцев назад
As a tank player, I have a very, very long response to this that basically agrees with your points but I'll spare everyone that. Instead I'll just say; 6v6 won't solve any issues as long as Kiriko is in the game in her current state. As long as Illari's afk healing turret ult rate gain is as it is. As long as sojourn can farm rail off anything. As long as Lifeweaver's ult is a better defensive support ult than Brig and Lucio's combined. As long as half the tank's are countered by "soft" cc. As long as Sombra can infinitely hack people out of ults and abilities. All of these 5v5 issues will be amplified if we go back to 6v6. There's a lot wrong with the game and none of it was addressed going into 5v5, so why would they be improved going back into 6v6? Side note: make Mei a tank. Idk why ppl still say she needs to be a DPS, no DPS should have that much CC, sustain and area denial in their kit outside of an ult.
@estebanicedtea
@estebanicedtea 8 месяцев назад
The fact that every new character from the BP are broken first 2 weeks then "gets a nerf cause an error from his abilities" is insane 😂 Btw, i release every character that can sells very well (such as dva, Kiriko, sombra) etc, never gets nerfs. Just buffs. So yea, Blizz is thinkin just about money, not for the community. You guys are americans, You guys have more voice , please stop this changes are weird 😢
@FracturedPixel
@FracturedPixel 6 месяцев назад
I also find it funny that Blizz clearly struggle to balance the game yet their only selling point is new heroes....
@QKINGART
@QKINGART 8 месяцев назад
Overwatch sucks so badly now. They decided to be cheap and put little to no effort into the game and now we got this hot mess
@nevertoooldgaming_Rave
@nevertoooldgaming_Rave 8 месяцев назад
Imagine. Not only can heroes be completely unavailable because of the BP, when Blizzard adds in hero bans on top of that, yea. Just fucking imagine being double locked out of heroes in a COMPETATIVE PVP GAME. Topkek.
@jimbobruh5506
@jimbobruh5506 8 месяцев назад
I have never payed for a single item in OW2 and I got all the hearoes. They get unlocked at lvl 40 in the battle passes, what is the problem?
@sussybaka7150
@sussybaka7150 8 месяцев назад
I did the right thing and quit playing this game. So many better things to play, though it sucks how they squandered the potential OW had.
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