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@canucklehead9250
@canucklehead9250 Месяц назад
There isnt a day that goes by that i dont wish that counterswapping wasnt the central game mechanic now. All of these intricate, and unique, and interesting gameplay styles for what ends up boiling down to rock-paper-scissors with more steps
@1andonlyMiro
@1andonlyMiro Месяц назад
Honestly, in lower elo it just boils down to tanks swapping a few times until they yield and pick Orisa
@canucklehead9250
@canucklehead9250 Месяц назад
@@1andonlyMiro rock-paper-scissors-shotgun
@Thirstylion314
@Thirstylion314 Месяц назад
And that’s EXACTLY what the devs want. In a dev blog a couple months back they said themselves that they want counter-picking to be a part of the game. I cannot stress enough, the devs like this rock-paper-scissors “style”
@Dezidicus
@Dezidicus Месяц назад
​@@Thirstylion314 was gonna say sun similar cause this isn't exactly the game you play whatever character you want cause they're fun to you. when metas exist and always will in a competitive game, e.g. the damn horse always being the crutch pick cause no critical damage is uh very nice. Plus overwatch is one of the very few games that allow changing to almost any character during gameplay without losing the plot too much.
@STORYTXLLXR
@STORYTXLLXR Месяц назад
@@canucklehead9250rock-paper-scissors- HORSE
@MrZepedacarlos73
@MrZepedacarlos73 Месяц назад
Any other tank: happy 64 music Winton: dk 64 music Orisa: sad/boss music
@chadcooper5424
@chadcooper5424 Месяц назад
Grant Kirkhope is a legend!
@AVHD2
@AVHD2 Месяц назад
love how now matter what happens, it always boils down to playing this godforsaken horse and I’m sick of it
@williamjensen5683
@williamjensen5683 Месяц назад
You could delete Orisa and Mauga from the game and it would instantly get better.
@AVHD2
@AVHD2 Месяц назад
@@williamjensen5683 I’d be so happy to have Orisa gone such a snooze fest of a character
@williamjensen5683
@williamjensen5683 Месяц назад
@@AVHD2 Save me from my team demanding i swap to Orisa lol. I play OW to have fun
@TheLeetCasualGamer
@TheLeetCasualGamer Месяц назад
I can really relate to Orisa I too, sit around all day, not caring
@mrleafytoy
@mrleafytoy Месяц назад
i miss when Orisa had 400/450 HP and the only annoying ability she had was that gravity ball she shot out
@jamieagg3094
@jamieagg3094 Месяц назад
I think you forget shield meta
@theglitchexplorer3488
@theglitchexplorer3488 Месяц назад
Ya having another 400 hp tank really helped
@Punchbadguy
@Punchbadguy Месяц назад
This is like the only way to win/have fun on tank. I was playing comp and just counter swapped all game and we won easily. I hate it, I feel evil doing it, I want 6v6 back.
@raffyarceus99
@raffyarceus99 Месяц назад
6 Vs 6 WILL COME BACK🎉
@Shotz_ZnK
@Shotz_ZnK Месяц назад
Same here, if I play any other tank I just get counter swapped and end up having to mirror the other teams orisa, such a boring playstyle
@justacursedlego286
@justacursedlego286 Месяц назад
Orisa got that "Its time for the bad guys to have a party" ahh music
@ComputerFreak1144
@ComputerFreak1144 Месяц назад
That hog in the first game was a glutton for punishment lmao, dude just refused to swap
@jeremycorbeil2738
@jeremycorbeil2738 Месяц назад
wdym? hog players swap????
@xshelzyy6114
@xshelzyy6114 Месяц назад
S-S-Swap?? To what?
@lamino187
@lamino187 Месяц назад
Counter swapping is the meta but sometimes swapping isn't really fun
@predaking3217
@predaking3217 Месяц назад
Flats: goes Orisa Hog player:😭😭
@cameroncox2322
@cameroncox2322 Месяц назад
As a hog I shit on orias all day it’s not the hard counter people think it is. The problem is Ana/zen on top of orisa.
@cloud8813
@cloud8813 Месяц назад
Yep, especially in the iron ranks since people down here still play Rein. And considering Rein is my highest level hero, I know how to abuse myself
@micahluthi7712
@micahluthi7712 Месяц назад
Lol I liked the part where horse was like 🐴 then she was like 🐴 then she was all like 🐴 very unique and highly interesting character.
@xFive441
@xFive441 Месяц назад
Orisa is like an unkillable elden ring boss with multiple phases you have to go through for a chance to kill her. You have to get her to get rid of all of her abilities and then hope your team kills her.
@charliewenthe4411
@charliewenthe4411 26 дней назад
discord orb works too lol
@Hoboslayer679
@Hoboslayer679 28 дней назад
THIS is why counterawapping is a problem. Went from almost 50/50 to 80/20 in flats favor. Three people counterswapped the tank after losing one fight. As a tank player either you get good with ur hero or play rock paper scissor for the rest of the game
@IOSALive
@IOSALive Месяц назад
Flats, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!
@XxEpicPilot4UxX
@XxEpicPilot4UxX 29 дней назад
"They just kept coming, and coming, and coming, dude..." - Flats (2024)
@mixcypher9041
@mixcypher9041 Месяц назад
You know what would fix counter swapping to a degree? 6v6
@italo-hungariananimation2149
@italo-hungariananimation2149 Месяц назад
"Orisa is op she needs a nerf" Nah i'd beam charachter
@Elijah_Elias
@Elijah_Elias Месяц назад
Nah, I’d spell “Character” correctly.
@technoraptor6419
@technoraptor6419 Месяц назад
I wouldn't say she's broken, she's honestly the opposite. All the other tanks are far less easier to play than Orissa or are in such weak spots that Orisa and Sig look like the only two playable tanks till they finally fix what they want to fix about tank lol
@seb_btm1349
@seb_btm1349 Месяц назад
@@technoraptor6419Orisa is wall simulator
@technoraptor6419
@technoraptor6419 Месяц назад
@@seb_btm1349 certainly can be when none of the other tanks are as good as her lol
@nasirthesenatejohnson6935
@nasirthesenatejohnson6935 Месяц назад
Orisa, Hog, and Mauga all make the game unfun for tank players. You dont have to use any strategy to dominate
@garchomp8273
@garchomp8273 Месяц назад
Na hog is fine for me orisa mauga and zarrea are the pains for me
@williamjensen5683
@williamjensen5683 Месяц назад
Im fine with Hog, but Orisa and Mauga are garbage. The game would be better if both were deleted.
@Reddzion
@Reddzion Месяц назад
@@williamjensen5683 tbh with you i find orisa fun to play, my favourite tank to be fair. Game would be better for you as this is your opinion. Sure, Orisa can be a pain to verse, but so is every other hero when in the right hands.
@williamjensen5683
@williamjensen5683 Месяц назад
@@Reddzion Fair enough. To each their own. Personally, I think both Orisa and Mauga's designs as tank are questionable.
@dustinpowell1645
@dustinpowell1645 Месяц назад
I wouldn’t say you don’t have to use strategy with them; if anything, Mauga and Hog are some of the easiest tanks to kill once they overextend/get separated from the rest of their team. Although I personally enjoy all three of them (Hog not quite so much), seeing a Mauga or Hog on the other team really doesn’t worry me at all because I know that as soon as they get greedy and charge too far ahead my team’s going to melt them in seconds. Poor use of abilities or even simple bad positioning will definitely get Mauga/Hog/Orisa killed, so while I can certainly understand why it *seems* like you can just turn off your brain and win with them no matter what, my experience has been pretty drastically different. Granted, Orisa in particular has some of the best anti-cc/damage avoidance in the tank category and a number of ways to deny space, so it’s easy to see why so many players pick her when they just want to win comp matches.
@svanteernestam9406
@svanteernestam9406 Месяц назад
Me as a Zen main. Just discord the horse forehead. Yes flats swap to the new tank hero zenyatta and discord the horse.
@bobgumkowski9595
@bobgumkowski9595 Месяц назад
Hot take! One of the best parts of Paladins is that there isn't any hero swapping mid match.
@darkshaman98
@darkshaman98 Месяц назад
I feel kinda bad for the person they really got bullied there but this is why you keep characters in your back pocket to counter weaknesses
@ratinc.t3748
@ratinc.t3748 Месяц назад
Then I switch to counter your pick
@darkshaman98
@darkshaman98 Месяц назад
@@ratinc.t3748 then I swap back, that is how counter swapping works.
@ratinc.t3748
@ratinc.t3748 Месяц назад
@@darkshaman98 And that's why it's shit
@AshleyRosemarry
@AshleyRosemarry Месяц назад
It honestly baffles me that even in high rank play, people refuse to swap literally out of ego. Like, we all know counterwatching is cringe af, but if you wanna win, you gotta do what you gotta do
@Maestrocassette
@Maestrocassette Месяц назад
Flats and karq are the only none annoting ow2 streamers. Im not used to all the yelling and stuff but these two are so nice and calm. Its always fun to watch them
@Kendervader
@Kendervader Месяц назад
The Godzilla music was top notch 👌
@fourscarlet7581
@fourscarlet7581 Месяц назад
This is why I gave up on my Roadhog one trick account.
@Shirkerz
@Shirkerz Месяц назад
its funny how they cant just nerf her because beam characters exist and they would just tell us to counter swap and counter swapping was the one thing they were trying to avoid
@buzzengbarth
@buzzengbarth Месяц назад
The amount of coms flats needs to do to save the second game is crazy.
@MECAUT7
@MECAUT7 23 дня назад
that´s ow 2 in a nutshel, the no orisa player crying and then insta switch to orisa even with 0 time with her and full value for just being there.
@PeteD
@PeteD Месяц назад
why is orisa in the thumbnail? I was expecting this to be a sombra video
@phantomized187
@phantomized187 Месяц назад
Me:Loses one fight Also Me:Counterswaps It’s fun
@someclearskychilling2678
@someclearskychilling2678 Месяц назад
sounds like a skill issue to me!
@phantomized187
@phantomized187 Месяц назад
@@someclearskychilling2678 making sure if I’m not enjoying your losing this game
@thebandit6886
@thebandit6886 Месяц назад
​@@someclearskychilling2678 sounds like you dont play tank
@treyzure
@treyzure Месяц назад
dk 64 boss battle music lol
@KingTinker9
@KingTinker9 Месяц назад
This is the tank experience no matter what rank you play.
@JagMaster27
@JagMaster27 Месяц назад
Flats is my favorite orisa main
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 27 дней назад
I'm surprised we don't have an evil or is a skin
@Shotz_ZnK
@Shotz_ZnK Месяц назад
Hate playing against orisa so much as a tank player.
@Jaxiepie
@Jaxiepie Месяц назад
Flats always forgetting sombra
@jakebot666
@jakebot666 28 дней назад
so glad they changed the one hard counter for her into a character she counters
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends 19 дней назад
i still cannot believe they did that lol i actually can't believe they made that decision
@jakebot666
@jakebot666 17 дней назад
@@ihopeyouandicanbefriends we are so back nvm
@dashilharryben6869
@dashilharryben6869 Месяц назад
Orisa, Mei, Sojourn, Zen and Brig This is the evil team 🤣
@someclearskychilling2678
@someclearskychilling2678 Месяц назад
I only play counter in quickplay get a mauga (i play lots of rein btw so...) I learned how to somewhat manage an orisa playing rein but mauga is just even more braindead than orisa
@aziz8121
@aziz8121 Месяц назад
Flats: Orisa is a B tier hero. Also Flats when he gets rulled: Goes Orisa
@StillNightingale
@StillNightingale Месяц назад
Missing all your javelins
@MECAUT7
@MECAUT7 23 дня назад
and yet winning that tells you the problem with the horse
@jacobhoening8558
@jacobhoening8558 Месяц назад
I feel bad for my fellow hog player
@silverpro8356
@silverpro8356 Месяц назад
Funny how he only plays Orisa and junkerqueen now cause the tank passive ruined tanking.
@lethe_lets
@lethe_lets Месяц назад
Roadhogs are tanks too
@theprometheu5
@theprometheu5 Месяц назад
Counterswapping to Orisa is worse than playing Hog - yea, times are changing
@Diren_7
@Diren_7 28 дней назад
Never, playing hog is the lowest of the lows
@whrench2676
@whrench2676 Месяц назад
The only time I ever go orisa is against another orisa or a bumsweat hog, they just seem so soulless
@chr8is891
@chr8is891 Месяц назад
hog players are the best orisa players are soulless lmao
@whrench2676
@whrench2676 Месяц назад
Yeah I guess prisa players are soulless as well but hog players are not the best, unrespectable. The respectable tanks are winton, rein, doom, ball and jq
@chr8is891
@chr8is891 Месяц назад
@@whrench2676 hog has the most counters for a tank so people who play him well should be respected
@whrench2676
@whrench2676 Месяц назад
@@chr8is891 I'm gonna have to disagree with you there mate, hog may have the most counters in the form of him having a big hitbox and cancellable heaing but he still has a very big presence on the battlefield and can quite quickly eliminate enemies just by taking them out of position, reinhardt is in the worst position for a tank currently
@cameroncox2322
@cameroncox2322 Месяц назад
⁠@@chr8is891his only hard counter is Ana. As a hog main I destroy Orisas all time you just wait out gold and it’s an easy kill. An ana with good purples though is damn near impossible.
@aSuperPi.
@aSuperPi. Месяц назад
Gotta be completely honest, I would rather play Orisa than Mauga and Hog.
@cirno9349
@cirno9349 Месяц назад
Orisa rework 2 when?
@overcraft1441
@overcraft1441 Месяц назад
As a hog main the amount of apathy flats eskay and karq are showing is toxic
@ssomerandom6574
@ssomerandom6574 Месяц назад
Over time for me at least orisa became less and less of a roadblock and more of an annoyance to play against
@sackillusion3323
@sackillusion3323 Месяц назад
Couple of weeks ago, the enemy Roadhog was ruining our tank, so he switched to Orisa and had an easier time. After we won that round, their Roadhog typed in the match chat “Only bad players would pick Orisa”. Both sides called him out over his pick on Roadhog, and he responded with “I can play whatever tank I want”
@chickenflex4882
@chickenflex4882 Месяц назад
"Called him out" lmao orisa is the noob pick real chads go rein
@sakataslays
@sakataslays Месяц назад
​@@chickenflex4882 Live with honor! Die with glory!
@ketchubb
@ketchubb Месяц назад
that first game was pretty fucked up. 3 hog counters after 1st fight? counterwatch at its peak.
@douglascehlar6760
@douglascehlar6760 Месяц назад
Genuine question… when is it ethical to play as orisa?
@IDKWhatIsEvenHappening
@IDKWhatIsEvenHappening Месяц назад
Ethically if you find the character genuinely entertaining to play, then I'd argue that is a solid example of an ethical Orisa. Ultimately though, because of the change to 5v5, there is very much a bias towards tank optimisation vs dps or support. With counterplay becoming so integral to the tank role in recent years, especially in ranked, there's a higher pressure on playing as best you can with as much consistency as possible. Shorter answer is dependent on how seriously one takes the game. If you play ranked or quick play, role queue or open queue, whatever. It only causes harm ethically if the knowledge, conditions and intent are taken to a serious degree.
@TatoCinema
@TatoCinema Месяц назад
flats love you and your content but would love to see you play games where the developer care about you
@kingk.d.m4620
@kingk.d.m4620 Месяц назад
I thought it was Brig?
@bimgblue
@bimgblue Месяц назад
as a hog enjoyer this hurts my soul, 4:40 that mf didn't deserve that flats😭😭😭😭
@Dallas52
@Dallas52 Месяц назад
Anyone else dealing with spawn camping sombras in half of their games?
@drmidge
@drmidge Месяц назад
ok i’m done now, bring back 6 v 6 PLEASE
@drmidge
@drmidge Месяц назад
double shield wouldn’t even be a thing now cos of all the counters and reworks
@_EXP626_
@_EXP626_ Месяц назад
Poor Hog. I’ll never swap Ana or Zen against Hog players. I’m not cruel and unjust.
@NovexusNui777
@NovexusNui777 Месяц назад
As someone who enjoys playing Orisa, I feel like an absolute villain when I use her, and I love it
@LuisOchoa-eq2dh
@LuisOchoa-eq2dh Месяц назад
Special place down under for people like you...
@justanotherdude_
@justanotherdude_ Месяц назад
Correction: you don't enjoy playing orisa. You enjoy being evil with orisa
@NovexusNui777
@NovexusNui777 Месяц назад
@@justanotherdude_ Fair but I do enjoy Orisa, she's one of my Mains lol
@NovexusNui777
@NovexusNui777 Месяц назад
@@LuisOchoa-eq2dh lol
@ndalt490
@ndalt490 Месяц назад
⁠​⁠@@NovexusNui777I’m with you bro I’ve been maining her for a year and she’s so damn fun
@SilentIsles
@SilentIsles Месяц назад
Ow2 tanking is so fucking miserable now
@rumlocke636
@rumlocke636 Месяц назад
You have become what you sought to destroy 😂
@stolenscorcher3661
@stolenscorcher3661 Месяц назад
I respect you swapping to Orisa for the roadhog, but not the game after that. You were complaining about them chasing you when you were playing Winston. I mean, of course they're going to chase you, you're targeting their supports. Did you expect them to just let you do that? Haha
@StrawHatFan374
@StrawHatFan374 Месяц назад
Sad that my favorite ow streamer hates hog players, sad times for us hog players
@labelugao9775
@labelugao9775 Месяц назад
Poppy?
@freakyshiki7550
@freakyshiki7550 Месяц назад
Honestly-would anyone complain if they nerfed Orisa to hell?
@ndalt490
@ndalt490 Месяц назад
I’m def in the minority but I find orisa so fun to play, even with mirror matches. Been my fav tank for 11 months. Javelin is so satisfying and her kit plays off itself so well. She’s def a lil overtuned tho
@willacosta10
@willacosta10 Месяц назад
I don’t normally feel bad for Hog players…and I still don’t.
@shanetwdvfx
@shanetwdvfx Месяц назад
does flats look like hes lost weight or is it just me
@HyunJuneCho-ul9ib
@HyunJuneCho-ul9ib 18 дней назад
I have 0 respect for Orisa mains It's ok when you play Orisa a bit but if you one trick Orisa? idk if ur top 500 ur bronze to me
@ayyitsjeez3317
@ayyitsjeez3317 Месяц назад
Flat bitching about counter swap then he swaps after 1 fight
@Cringelordhahafunny
@Cringelordhahafunny Месяц назад
👍
@lemonkeychoosesyou3405
@lemonkeychoosesyou3405 Месяц назад
are you actually gonna quit like you said
@Phobie_2008
@Phobie_2008 Месяц назад
He never said that he was officially gonna quit.
@kleckscraft_1713
@kleckscraft_1713 Месяц назад
The fact that, over the last few months, Orisa as gotten 3 buffs, and no nerfs, is criminal. At this point she just 'If anti-nate, and cleanse was a character', and it's ruining the game
@supershotgun6921
@supershotgun6921 Месяц назад
Dont hate on Orisa hate on the game that makes tank a miserable experience all around.
@natsuki9465
@natsuki9465 Месяц назад
swapping to orisa is a step i simply wont take, I wont sacrifice my morals
@CanadianCat101
@CanadianCat101 Месяц назад
I remember playing a comp game on Esparancia where I rolled out on ball, guy was hog, he killed me and I was like "nope you will suffer" swapped to Mauga and ended up forcing him to swap to Mauga 😂 He then proceeded to continually flame me the entire game as I destroyed him saying like "you shitter" "gfy meta slave" "zzz counter-play" 😂😂
@onemanuniverseorr1178
@onemanuniverseorr1178 Месяц назад
Ur better than playing Orisa flats. Rise above
@thebandit6886
@thebandit6886 Месяц назад
I fucking hate Orisa... such a boring, unfun, and annoying tank to play against 😒🥱😴😪
@NickybobGames
@NickybobGames Месяц назад
He complains about them chasing him everywhere he goes when that’s exactly what he did to the hog player. 😂😂 He gets no sympathy from me. Just me laughing 😂😂😂
@waddlez7192
@waddlez7192 Месяц назад
🥱
@Thirstylion314
@Thirstylion314 Месяц назад
Idk why we keep complaining about counter-picking when the devs THEMSELVES have stated, in a dev blog a couple months back, that they want counter-picking to be a feature of the game. The devs like this rock-paper-scissors “style”
@ellisking13x29
@ellisking13x29 Месяц назад
These devs don’t even touch their own game
@technoraptor6419
@technoraptor6419 Месяц назад
It's fun until the enemy is hell bent on making sure you're rock and they're paper lol. It's fun until you're basically FORCED to play a character you don't wanna play. At that point, it's either suffer with a character you don't play or don't like playing or leave. And considering leaving now has harsher penalties, you're basically just forced to suck it up and suffer until its all over. A video game; Where you get on to have fun is starting to feel like a real life job now that the freedom of character choice is just an illusion lol
@supershotgun6921
@supershotgun6921 Месяц назад
​@@technoraptor6419 I swear arcade is going to be the new unranked because it has no leaver penalties and it is also open queue. Legit whenever I play with my cousin, who is relatively new to the game, I just queue 2cp in arcade and we just troll.
@technoraptor6419
@technoraptor6419 Месяц назад
@@supershotgun6921 thats pretty much all I play too. Can guarantee you, I've gotten every trophy in the game but never received it cuz I dislike playing comp and quick play cuz of the toxicity and how some of the players try to act like managers. Like, yeah, maybe the character I wanna play doesn't sync the best with yours. But my guy, it's not comp- or it's not like we're getting prize money or like one of your family members is being held hostage unless we win. Some people just need to chill and have fun lol
@Thirstylion314
@Thirstylion314 Месяц назад
@@supershotgun6921 wait fr? Arcade has no leaver penalties
@pokieplayboy
@pokieplayboy Месяц назад
Yikes
@fredrick42572
@fredrick42572 Месяц назад
I too hate Roadhog.
@DropXplode
@DropXplode Месяц назад
Delete her 😂
@Caiofoca
@Caiofoca Месяц назад
Everyone talks about orisa being the anti-fun tank, but I don't think she's half as anti-fun as hog is. Besides, Orisa is literally the only tank character that actually tanks in the current state of the game.
@ryansantana168
@ryansantana168 Месяц назад
Sigma?
@leatherhead333
@leatherhead333 Месяц назад
@@ryansantana168 Sigma can still get run over by lucio speed boost brawl comps on certain maps. NOBODY runs over orisa.
@SirLexion
@SirLexion Месяц назад
Everyone caps about Orisa being strong when the opposing tank doesn’t pick Zarya plus the Orisa’s teams is better than the other lmao
@polarbear7342
@polarbear7342 Месяц назад
Hog is unplayable as is😂 not cool
@Waffl3B1T
@Waffl3B1T Месяц назад
Nah best hero to play
@kleckscraft_1713
@kleckscraft_1713 Месяц назад
I don't care if you're just joking. You disgust me.
@italo-hungariananimation2149
@italo-hungariananimation2149 Месяц назад
^ Cope
@Waffl3B1T
@Waffl3B1T Месяц назад
@@kleckscraft_1713 you think you matter to me. You don’t. Keep moving kiddo
@AlexNight
@AlexNight Месяц назад
That’s a weird way of saying Winton.
@Pyrax99
@Pyrax99 Месяц назад
Strong or not her gameplay looks a little shallow to me, would love to learn how people like using her though!
@imuhcroissant8561
@imuhcroissant8561 Месяц назад
They should redistribute some of her power because this is ridiculous. Lot less shield, projectile bullet drop, with javelin stun and cd nerfed. Increasing javelin damage, while slightly buffing javelin spin’s cd and size. Overall net nerf with a bit less survivability and consistent damage but slightly more cd control and kill potential🦭
@HelpMeFindMySon
@HelpMeFindMySon Месяц назад
Whenever you’re getting diffed just go Orisa!!
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends
@ihopeyouandicanbefriends 19 дней назад
COUNTERSWAP IS SUCH BRAINLESS ASSETRY bro i cant stand this game. bring back 6 v 6 bro im literally this 🤏 close to just playing fortnite for my fps fix instead
@reality3225
@reality3225 Месяц назад
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