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Overwatch Needs to Slow Down | Discussing OW's Quality and Quantity of Updates 

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@tymunster
@tymunster 3 месяца назад
I don't understand the notion that the game industry is struggling when it's the most profitable its ever been. It's just that the money isn't going down to the people making the game, it's going up to the CEOs
@germangarmendia8098
@germangarmendia8098 3 месяца назад
The issue is the investments in video games have gotten so bad a game needs half a billion to break even,mostly due to poor higher management, the money is usually misalocated and wasted on nonsense
@Bluemansonic
@Bluemansonic 3 месяца назад
Bro the industry itself is struggling in literally everything except for finance
@tymunster
@tymunster 3 месяца назад
@@Bluemansonic which means the industry isn't struggling. The only thing the industry cares about is its bottom line. The gaming COMMUNITY is struggling because it is being milked for profits.
@Bluemansonic
@Bluemansonic 3 месяца назад
@@tymunster yes
@morezombies9685
@morezombies9685 3 месяца назад
As an adult I feel I should at least let you know that CEOs are not the reason people dont make more money. Not that I think its awesome they make 100x the person below them, but still. I wish the world was as simple as youre making it right now but it isnt. The real issue is that nobody is doing well right now. Covid destabilized the market pretty fiercly and we are feeling the effects of all of the money printing biden did in 2021. 80% of all the money that was ever printed in US history was done in ~2021. But maybe all this will just go over your heads and youll all try to argue with me about some dumb crap cause I mentioned politics, idk. Probably too dense of a discussion for an overwatch comments section lmao.
@michaelc7418
@michaelc7418 3 месяца назад
We really need each season to be 3 months instead of 2, but they release a new hero every season instead of every other season. A new hero every 4 months is too slow to maintain the hype. If they went to a new hero every 6 months, the game could die, just like we saw how OW1 was not getting any new heroes and player numbers kept going down and down.
@nihili4196
@nihili4196 3 месяца назад
Longer seasons would require bigger Bpasses, and thus more skins in Bpass. I think getting maps and heroes less often feels like better solution
@pepekovallin
@pepekovallin 3 месяца назад
Overwatch, the only game that simultaneously feels too fast and too slow
@sqoo5
@sqoo5 3 месяца назад
Longer battle passes means less per year, which means less money, so not gonna happen.
@asianlim3000
@asianlim3000 3 месяца назад
Yes!! 4 heroes every year would feel so much better than 3!
@blazing910
@blazing910 3 месяца назад
this fixes nothing and if anything you would get worse balanced characters in the game. Lifeweaver was and still is a disaster, Mauga is fun not in the mirror but his mirror was one of the worst metas of all time and venture is pretty fun. If anything they might need more time to work on these characters before they hit live based on 2 of the last 3 results
@joereed8872
@joereed8872 3 месяца назад
The thing that truly matters to the ow community is skins. I wish it wasn't the case, but if the season theme is an experimental design and the skins don't hit. The whole season just dies. All the stuff you mentioned keeps people playing and enjoying the game, but 90% of my friends interaction with the game is "cool skins this season?"
@pepekovallin
@pepekovallin 3 месяца назад
Yeah, season 8 was very garbage for basically everything (specially Mauga), but what does everyone talks about? "The hunter skins are so garbage"
@TheUnseenKrab
@TheUnseenKrab 3 месяца назад
Paying 80 dollars for a ,mythic is ridiculous
@NotZalasteela
@NotZalasteela 3 месяца назад
If they released things every four months then they need to make a PTB (Public Test Build) so that we can give them feed back as they're working on or getting ready to release the new season, it would be better then them simply going off of data and would probably be more helpful as well
@pepekovallin
@pepekovallin 3 месяца назад
What really bothers me in overwatch is mostly the lack of maps and "serious" gamemodes, and what I mean by that is that a lot of maps are locked behind gamemodes that we won't ever see, take 2 cp as an example, a lot of really iconic maps are completely locked behind the 2cp game mode but you can't ever play it because no one plays arcade, which sucks because that means that almost half of overwatch's maps are locked from everyone else, if blizzard can't dish out more maps it's fine, I'm sure it's not easy to design a map, but at least make it so 2cp is playable in qp, qp isn't comp, 2cp doesn't need to go back to comp but qp should be the casual overwatch experience regardless of what blizzard says, if they did that and removed the qp penalty to allow people that don't like 2cp to simply leave I believe this would be extremely healthy for overwatch's atmosphere "here are more maps and game modes in qp, if you don't like this map you can go, someone else will fill the slot, don't worry"
@kangokyobi
@kangokyobi 3 месяца назад
After finishing the whole video, I think you have very good ideas for what extra should come to the game, but I cant help but hard disagree about slowing down map and hero releases. The only way I’d disagree is if a hero actually releases unfinished and that’s yet to happen, the real issue it seems is that the skin pipelines aren’t being communicated the best way with launches, because we’re still getting seasons launching with hella legendaries time and time again Maps, if counted, have essentially released the same number they would have by season 11. The only reason we even have that big gap is because they keep doing back to back launches of maps. Season 2 to Season 3 were two maps and a row and then season 6 -7 were three with Flashpoint launching, which meant 2024 essentially got 4 map launches but a good portion of them were huddled up leaving a gap to wait. Slowing down doesn’t fix this, just better timing (we should probably stop dropping maps or gamemodes in the same season as a hero) I 100% agree with you on slowing down on gamemodes, if we get one every year eventually we’ll just have like 5 types of gamemodes all with 2-3 maps, that is very bad. That and I think the 5 we’re at already is fine, just flesh those out instead. Clash is fine but if it was up to me I’d stop there and focus on what we had now. It would also be easier for tournament structure I like your tournament gamemode idea, I’ve been asking for a try out button for a good while now since both mythics and weapon skins have one, but I think its important to know that balance and even events to a degree unfortunately don’t make seasons feel fresh to a lot of the community. I’d honestly argue little to nothing does, have the time people only talk about skins. Even a really fleshed out season like Mirrorwatch gets complaints in its second half for ending its event after three weeks even though just about every event ever has been that way. There is no win here, which is unfortunate because I’ll always be here for map reworks, hero reworks and general balance ideas. However, the game is fine. It’s pretty clear we’re having issues on the lore side due to January’s layoffs but I genuinely think both speeding up and slowing down hero releases would be the worst decision possible. The rate we’re at now is essentially the one OW has always had, and they’d probably lose money considering how this community often feels even just a month into a season
@kangokyobi
@kangokyobi 3 месяца назад
If I asked for anything in OW right now, it’d be stronger Esports integration. I missed when OW1 had an OWL section of the menu screen where you could see match scores and I’m hoping the thriving orgs get content in-game to build up our esport. If the base game marketed their esport harder we’d be a lot stronger
@swifttitan8126
@swifttitan8126 3 месяца назад
Lain, do you think you'd be able to do collabs with other ow streamers, that may bring more viewers to your ytk
@LainHemingway
@LainHemingway 3 месяца назад
I'm actually pretty happy with my steady growth so far! If an opportunity arises to collab, I'll take it but I won't being going too far out of my way to make it happen rn.
@SandlerShephord
@SandlerShephord 3 месяца назад
It has nothing to do with frequency, it's the quality, and not even like quality as in they didnt put blood sweat and tears into it but I mean quality as in it's something the community truly wants. Like we got one new hybrid map and one payload map in ow2, the rest were for crappy new gamemodes that just dont feel like the core game and most people dont like, we were bored of the same hybrid and payload maps, not bored of the gamemode so why try and reinvent the wheel? Just makes peoples needlessly annoyed with you when you have a sure fire way to make most people happy with hybrid and payload maps, and even control maps are often not received well, they usually arent received poorly like these new gamemodes but people just forget they exist while the two new maps for hybrid and payload are actually pretty beloved maps now, circle royal maybe not so much if you arent a poke enjoyer but the other one is amazing as it just has alot of narrow paths for brawl and high grounds for dive and poke giving alot of options, so just release hybrid and payload maps as adding anything else is either a net 0 or net negative, like push is pretty much universally hated from what I can tell. And now again with heros, why do they keep creating heros with stuff that's been proven to be hated? Like kiri was received well enough, shes more polarizing than anything but she has immortality, something they know we hate from bap, and than weaver only heals, which they know we hate from mercy, but I get this one because mercy is also polarizing so maybe they thought it was worth the risk like mercy is only problem is they forgot mercys only actually liked for her movement based playstyle that doesnt require god like reflexes in aiming like genji, tracer or echo, shes like the movement hero without the need to use the movement offensively which is often the hard part, I mean anyone can parkour as genji decently well, so they bascially just created mercy without the best part 😂 Than we have illari... why add a turret? You have so much dam evidence that turrets are hated... so why add another fking turret on another boring sniper hero... a sniper hero that doesnt even occupy the dps category, and instead just sits there next to ana as an easier option, like at best shes just boring and unnnecessary, at worse people hate how hard it is to push a choke with 3 sym turret, a torb turret and a heal turret with a team of orisa and friends sun tanning behind the choke waiting for you to break through so they can spam the ults theyve built watching you struggle with turrets for a min straight 😂 Than there's mauga, do I even need to explain how this hero was terrible? And how anyone with a brain would have looked at his reaper life steal, bastion guns, hog hitbox, ashe fire dot passive and orisa playstyle and told you that shiets not healthy for the game but nope they added a tank bastion, reaper hybrid with a smile on their faces as if it was the greatest thing ever. And finally venture... venture was actually pretty good, just they forgot they have 1 shotting snipers, invisible auto aim cc rats and flying military tank cannons running around so venture just doesnt really feel like they do much because like junkrat, is just countered by so many unfairly broken yet easy heros. So even if you kinda disagree with some of my points here, you cannot deny that all of these were problems and have been complained about extensively on twitter when they were happening, and considering I named every hero and map except the first 2 maps and first 2 heros (which theres controversy with soj so it honestly should have only been one) maybe the devs should rethink their hero design philosophies and go back to just makingi maps for the already established gamemodes we all liked for years. Congratulations for making it through my rant, your reward? The knowledge that were all fked if we trully believe this game can be saved~
@Bluemansonic
@Bluemansonic 3 месяца назад
How can they slow down if they haven't even started moving after season 11, the xbox showcase never mentioned even a namedrop of OW2... (Before anybody accuses me a hater, im actually a huge OW1+2 and Xbox fanboy)
@leemurrison9869
@leemurrison9869 3 месяца назад
How much did Bobby Kotick effect that pipeline of content you displayed at 2022? I would like to think the reason why there has been a big gap in maps for game modes was CEO changes.
@Elizabeth68337
@Elizabeth68337 2 месяца назад
They should bring back 6v6
@d3cayingc0rpse
@d3cayingc0rpse 3 месяца назад
SUBBED. GREAT TOPIC!
@SauceSlave
@SauceSlave 3 месяца назад
Nice vid
@x.a.n.a6377
@x.a.n.a6377 3 месяца назад
I say four month season.
@dakotaseckman1457
@dakotaseckman1457 3 месяца назад
Let's stop with any cope. The world of cope is over. Every major creator is in rage mode and the team is giggling all the way to the bank. If we want change, don't buy anything for a season. At this point I would rather the game die than to be lead on with a house of lies over and over praising below minimum effort from the team. If the team cares about the game, they will fix it after getting the message that players mean business. They are trying to force players to give them money with a new version of Mercy pink skin. That is beyond low since they have nothing to even provide for players. Its so embracing that Microsoft didn't even let OW show at games fest....
@aceclop
@aceclop 3 месяца назад
Unpopular opinion here but I loath Flashpoint, hate push and don't care for control, I just find all those game modes annoying and I feel like any new game mode they add is also going to be bad. Honestly, they could just give us hybrid and escort and I'd be happy. Like I could play kings row, Hollywood, numbani, Junker Town, Havana and blizzard world only and be completely happy. Then if they just reduce everyone's health back, give hanzo back his one shot and nerf Winston, I'd personally be happy enough, even though there's a lot of other issues with the game lol.
@porcupinezebra648
@porcupinezebra648 3 месяца назад
Never cook again.
@aceclop
@aceclop 3 месяца назад
@@porcupinezebra648 I was being a bit hyperbolic, but is there a particular point you disagree with?
@Sizzyl
@Sizzyl 3 месяца назад
​@@aceclop 1.) Control is my favorite mode, what do you dislike about it? 2.) Hybrid, while having some fun maps (hollywood + eichenwald + kings row come to mind) is an inherently worse mode than escort/control (have you actually played blizzard world first?) 3.) Escort, while solid, isn't a top pick for me either (saying havana is a favorite is kinda nuts unless ur a widow OTP) 4.) Nerf winston??? why? 5.) Fair enough w/ hanzo and the health 6.) I disagree on flashpoint, but i'm by far in the minority on that one, not you 7.) I think your hatred for push comes from map design (so far all the push maps other than colloseo have tons of notable flaws) not the mode So TLDR I personally disagree with around 60% of what you said.
@aceclop
@aceclop 3 месяца назад
@@Sizzyl 1. I just dislike the format of it because I don't like maps where you have to fight for a central point because I feel like it can make it harder to take off angles and fighting on point sometimes can feel more difficult. Although it may just be a map thing mostly because lighang tower is ok at best and I actually dislike illos so much that I call it ewwilos lol. Oasis, is sorta fun though and I don't mind playing it. although honestly I think I overall prefer 2cp if we're being honest. 2. Personally I love blizzard world first as it's my favorite part of the map, it has good sight lines and a good off angle for a flank. Ironically enough I actually really dislike Eichenwald lol. 3. I just have a lot of good memories on Havana as I've had some of my best games on that map, granted I don't always win but the games on that map are always long and high elm. 4. Where do I begin lol. Like I know my opinion on him is a bit unpopular but I feel like he just does way too much compared to any other tank. He has really high health, does a lot of damage, has waay too much mobility and a bubble shield that's that's too big. Like he's just really hard to kill and there's very little counter play to him. 5. Hopefully they'll undue it in the future 6. Fair 7. Ironically , I think colloseo is my least favorite push map, if not second least favorite.
@Sizzyl
@Sizzyl 3 месяца назад
@@aceclop i loved illios back in ow1, post orisa-rework (and post-echo) it's genuinely unplayable for me
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