Why would crime committed by someone prior to being president, fall under any interpretation of presidential immunity, even if you say president has absolute immunity. Why delay?
It will be a mistrial so its delayed long enough for Donald to toss everything away with the exception of the rest of the stolen docs he never returns to the archives. I can tell you; everyone is missing the reality show because there watching the smoke and mirrors, he has already figured out how not to lose again. Once he is back in the White House, he makes it all go away with his private intelligent offices that will be doing Homeland and CIA work, while the government workers get sidelined from the State Department to the Pentagon. This is the reality show. All the prosecutors should have offered to cut a deal for not being the president. Now Joe Biden has a brain in his head, he will ensure Trump never gets in the White House by using the very power they just afforded Trump he takes over. MR PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, CAN YOU HEAR ME., PARDON YOUR SON and deal with Trump before his plan comes to full fruition!
No one is above the law. Being unable to accept defeat, and attempting to remain in power, is the cornerstone of this political system, Conviction and imprisonment are required.
@@ericmccarty9656 if what you say is true then there would be countless democrats including Hillary Clinton and every host on MSNBC that would be in court trying to defend why they would be claiming that trump “stole” the 2016 election.
As far as I care, if its criminal, its not part of a president's official duty, meaning that none of the ruling from the Supreme Court should apply. Of course, given their track record, I don't expect them to apply it that way.
Evidence from whilst Trump was President was admitted as evidence. Therefore the only possible cure is to have a new trial... All of you alt-left Blue Cult Wackos need to get a grip. Donald Trump is not a criminal, because this entire case is invalid.
The only weakness of that is that the ruling obscures the documents that would identify that official act. A perfect example of that would be the Nixon Tapes would be obscured. Without that audio, would the country have responded the same?
I am sick of "officials" telling me what I saw, heard, or know! I use my eyes, ears and brain and I know what I have seen, heard and thought! I plan to vote BLUE and hope others will do the same as I know they have eyes, ears and brains they have also used to make their own decisions! GOD SAVE AMERICA.
This is the nub of the issue: Trump has laid claim to being sent by God to make America Great Again, yet he's broken so many of GOD'S LAWS it's simply appalling, A VERY IMPORTANT ONE BEING, "THOU SHALL NOT MAKE A FALSE IDOL OUT OF GOLD, (MONEY)" yet that's EXACTLY what he's been doing ALL his life and communicating with his behavior, not only to our nation, but to the entire world as the TRUTH denying the fact that ALL the money anyone can ever amass couldn't CREATE an entire COSMOS out of anyhing other than LOVE!!! ✝️❤️🙏🧏
Perhaps not. But money, power, (esp.) political power,influence, ect. will always favor those on trail with these attributes over those who don't have these attributes. Not saying its right or OK.
All you have to realize is that Trump was convicted of a crime for writing a check(tradeable paper)... but it would NOT have been a crime if he had paid cash(tradeable paper.)
Some of the records were falsified while he was POTUS. But, writing checks from your personal and trust accounts and cooking your private company's books cannot possibly be construed as official acts.
Ok then: the Statue of Limitations has expired!... The real problem is that evidence, from when he was the President, was used against him, and that is illegal... So now he deserves a completely new Trial... Of course this law is ad hoc and ex post facto. Not to mention undefinable, and solely Political... Trying to prevent one's political opponents from running for office is a classic Marxist Ethos and all very Stalin-like.
At 3:14 the Supreme Court invents new law. Is that legal? I thought their job was to interpret existing laws passed by Congress. If this was existing law, how come nobody ever heard of it before? Where is it in the Constitution?
There is a higher authority: Congress. In particular the House of Representatives. If the Dems capture the White House and Congress in November, they can work together to pass new legislation that removes the traitors from SCOTUS and rebuilds it from the ground up.
@@geowen57 it’s not belief it’s the actual the way they went about it changing laws and limitations,so does that mean we should go back and charge Clinton with his deeds with woman while he was in the White House? Most politicians have paid millions in bush money! Adam Schiff paid a family for the harm he did to that family !
Duh - laws are not retroactive! If you ran a red light last week and they change the intersection this week, it does not change your actions last week.
Makes sense to me, but a lawyer on the channel said, it does not work like that, they have to rescore it… thus Supreme Court gets what it’s corruption needs
I don’t know about that. It has changed much more than 33,000 times for Every Wicked Establishment. USA News Media Outlets, Judges, Senators etc… Republicans, Democ-rats, Liberals etc… ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE PURGED FROM WICKEDNESS! TRUMP 2024 AND FOREVERMORE!!!
The argument they're making is that the law never applied to the president's official acts, and that they're now "clarifying" that. It's obviously ahistorical, as Nixon was clearly about to be charged for Watergate, but got pardoned by the following president (WHICH IF HE GOT PARDONED MEANS HE WAS DEFINITELY IN LEGAL TROUBLE). But it doesn't matter, they're going to make whatever conclusion they want to exonerate Trump, then argue backwards to justify it.
Laws are not retroactive to suddenly criminalize what was legal conduct. But not the other way around. Also, the SCOTUS decision is not new legislation. It interpreted the application of the Constitution. A legal decision like that absolutely can be used to vacate a criminal conviction. It's happened that way for more than a couple centuries in our country.
This Supreme Court is a court in which a Justice, who is still on that court, told a G.O.P. senator in 2020, the year of a presidential election, that he was thinking of leaving the court because he didn't make enough money, then Right Wing billionaires started befriending that Justice and giving him gifts, including a recreational vehicle costing more than a quarter of a million dollars. Buying his mother's home, renovating it, and letting her continue to live there rent-free for years. Paying for that justice's elaborate vacations, all to a value of more than $4 million! It doesn't end there! Very briefly, another Justice currently on the Supreme Court had property listed for sale for two years, then when he was confirmed to the Court, he quickly got a buyer! That buyer is head of a law firm which frequently has cases before the Supreme Court; in fact they appeared before the Court in 22 cases in the years after that land deal! Or how about the Justice, whose wife has a deal leasing 160 acres of land to an energy company, for a percentage of the profits, and who has ruled against the EPA a number of times? Even reversing a law signed by President Obama to protect the environment? By the way, this Justice also has received approximately a million dollars worth of gifts! Then there's the Justice whose wife recruits attorneys for law firms which frequently appear before the Supreme Court, and has been paid more than $5 million doing so. Do those law firms receive extra consideration from the Court?
I thought Thomas had that conversation before 2020 on a plane journey coming back from a republican event. He said it because it was a dem potus at the time and the republicans didn't want thomas replaced by a democrat as I heard the story. Will google when that happened, think it was Rachel or Lawrence who exposed it. Not 100% sure of when.
Quite frankly I don't think many people understand how dire this situation is. This is much bigger than Trump. When the highest court in the land turns against its own citizens in favor of autocracy, you are on the brink of revolution/civil war. At that point America's foreign adversaries will jump in the fight and it will be worse than anyone living today can imagine. The current administration must take immediate action, while they still have the upper hand, to resolve the crisis we face.
I absolutely agree. I don't think we can begin to think of a war amongst ourselves, and who would aggregate foreign aid? Would different countries side with different political parties?! If so, we may be facing a much larger invasion than just illegal immigrants and migrants...
How specifically does this scotus ruling violate the constitution? Presidents had immunity for a while and it consistently has been supported by scotus
This is far from over. He will be sentenced. His trials will continue. There are a lot of things going on behind the scenes that the general public will not see just yet. Karma is coming for him soon!
You seriously don’t even need to vote, and neither should any other clueless minion that says “save our democracy”! We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! Take a Civics class! 🤦🏼♀️
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468... We are a Constitutionally Limited Democratic Republic. We are a Democracy because we Vote for our leaders. We are also a Republic because we also vote for Representatives to represent us. Our government is Constitutionally Limited as to what they can do to "We the People." ... So YES America is a Democracy, and much much more.
Criminal. Infuriating. i'm still not scared. MeidasTouchNetwork's "LegalAF" & "MissTrial" + Ben & bros is the place for picking apart SCrOTUS⁶'s decisions. It remains to be seen how long the kingship stands, with & without (Joy Reid's) "King's Hand(s)" on their bench.
They are party to his cult. Evangelical Christian nationalism has infested the supreme Court and the Republican party. They know they are massively outnumbered by the liberals and Democrats so they are doing everything possible to cheat thier way into power over the majority that no longer wants to put up with thier lies and abuses.
its doesn't matter. its this SCOTUS who gets to decide. Treason will be immune, but if Biden issued an illegal order for free healthcare for all, that would not. US Democracy is dead. Right now it is. It's just going to take time to flesh itself out, but this is the way it is.
If he get in to be president our world will end he going to mess up our world and country just like he did before they’re acting like he can’t be moved this is a big bunch of S…
HERE IS HOW: LET US MAKE THIS DISGUSTING LAW BACKFIRE ON TRUMP, HIS CULT FOLLOWERS AND THE SUPREME COURT.. President Joe Biden may not want the power, but he has been given it - and is now virtually a King. I believe he has a duty of care to use that power for the safety of the Free World. Ironically, in their attempts to corruptly protect Trump, the US Supreme Court have made Biden into a king and, before it is too late, he should use his new kingly powers to save us from a dreadful dictator. Clearly it would be nice if somebody had the power to prevent Hitler from becoming the dictator that he became and used that power, despite being reluctant to. Here are a few suggestions: (1). Perhaps he could hasten the outstanding trials of Trump's alleged criminality? (2) Perhaps he could reform the Supreme Court by replacing the six judges that allegedly put decent law abiding people in danger by their attempts to appoint Trump as a future king? (3) Perhaps he could put any corrupt judges on trial for betraying people's reliance and trust in the Law to protect them? (4). Perhaps he could put any corrupt judges on trial for potentially endangering the safety of the entire Free World? (5). Perhaps he could put Donald J Trump and his collaborators on trial for alleged treason?
Applying law retrospectively is VERY dangerous indeed. I am not an American. However, history has always demonstrated that bad law is overturned. Might not happen immediately, but bad law is eventually cancelled.
Thanks for your insightful comment. I guess the devastating thing for me is that this is more fundamental than "bad law". In America, we don't have kings. Full stop. No one is above the law and this is the entire point of the country. The idea that a president can be prosecuted criminally is actually written into the impeachment clause. So respectfully, this just goes beyond "bad law". What can I call it exactly? I don't know, treason is one that springs to mind. I find the idea of a former president arguing that he has immunity to " assassinate a rival using seal team 6" in front of the Supreme Court of the land disqualifying from the office in and of itself. But that's just me- average American. What do I know? All I can do is VOTE. And I will. And millions of me will and then what? Because dollars to donuts the claim will be made that the vote was rigged. Now my fate is in the hands of now King Biden. What will he do when they begin flooding the courts with challenges? What will they do when 45 goes on rerunning the old hits from last time? "Frankly, we did win this election". THAT was the moment this all began- with one frightened, ugly man who LOST. He will loose again even if democrats run an actual donkey. Now, with a king, what will happen? Will Biden step aside and hand said kingship to an actual psychotic narcissist bent on staying out of jail and punishing anyone who isn't a straight up sycophant? My lord we need to call upon the wisdom of our founders, dig into our better angels and ACT with boldness and love of country right now. It's what I might call grim.
Right?? That's another thing. Laws get passed AFTER certain outcomes of landmark trials...but these certain trials are not then re-tried after the new law is passed...we'd be in court for eternity if that happened.
@@gigg252525 Why wait - do it now! Additionally, Impeach and imprison the fraudulent unethical FIVE SC Justices for fraud, taking gifts as bribes and violating their Oath! With his new powers, President Biden could bypass the House and Senate votes under Articles of Impeachment!
@@gigg252525 Obama should have faced justice for murdering all those Americans in Syria. The Supreme Court just saved him from a one-way trip to the Electric chair.
Obama should have faced justice for murdering all those Americans in Syria. The Supreme Court just saved him from a one-way trip to the Electric chair.
The Oligarchs are on the left. I mean when is the last time a fortune 500 company, corporate media, Hollywood, big retail, big banks, Ivy League, or the military industrial complex disagreed with the Democrats?
Big buzz word nice. So the current presidents son sitting on the board of foreign gas boards getting paid 80,000 a month with no skill is that also oligarch behavior asking for a friend. 😂
Along with Corrupted 6 Members of Trump Cult Supreme Court!! I listed all in a Previous Post 5 Men all Supreme Cout Men and 1 Woman Amy C Barrett!! The other 3 Women Voted No, on any BS complete Presidental Immunity!! 😮😮
@@swimminginthoughts Sure! After doing NOTHING for 3 hours. Witnesses reported he was cheering the insurrection while IGNORING pleas to stop it. Great leadership, huh?
@@swimminginthoughts Were you terrified because of everything he said before and after? I can't tell if you're being dishonest or uninformed. I am so exhausted trying to tell which is which. In either case, you're wrong. Just admit it. You can still feel how you want, vote how you want, but please just admit the sky is blue.
Some of the evidence presented during the trial occurred after he was elected and indeed in the White House, but it's not of enough significance that it would change the verdict IMO.
Yes we will vote for the person who didn’t oversee new wars during his admin. And who didn’t take classified docs from the WH as VP and the person who closed the border; etc.
@@wrelensmash It's stunning that people who can't afford groceries support a man who massively increases the national debt to enrich himself and other rich people, all at the expense of the poor. No wonder Trump loves stupid people.
Well, that's on top of his other 34 convictions he has accumulated, by my calculations he's probably got another 55 convictions left to go out of his 90 criminal charges.
@@SueFerreira75 Yes. But I also believe everything, especially law and order is up in the air. The only way to stop this is getting a majority democrats into both houses to create laws to counter this "free ride" to future dictators heading the country.
Better than a walking dead blackmailer and influence peddler.... Democrats: Blind in the right eye and deaf in the left ear. Spinning in circles. The "crimes" were passed over by the Biden pitbulls until Trump.announced he was running afterwards then their lead bulldig walks away from his fed job to be a NYC made guy. The crimes were barely meeting the books requirement.
The Supreme Court justices that have been appointed with the blessing of the behind the scenes actors we have been learning about, especially the ones appointed by TFG..... aren't about justice
Judges are NOT supposed to make laws! Absolutely! Especially when nothing giving presidential immunity is in the Constitution to begin with!! Voting Blue in 2024 straight ticket!!
@@jamesdouthat3999 show me in the constitution where it says the president has immunity for "official acts." You can't. They just "wrote" that "law" out of thin air.
*seal team 6 Stand by and stand back. If Biden loses president office. He'll have 2 months while in office to send the team in to trump and the 6 judges' *
Sorry but the elite are almost never held accountable. Why? Because the other corrupt elites don't want to ever be held accountable. The who system has been corrupt for decades now.
Simple question: how can an act which is illegal in the terms of the law the President was sworn to uphold be defined as a Presidential Act? Surely that by definition would be a personally advantageous act carried out in defiance of his Presidential oath and therefore prosecutable.
First, it was not Congress acting. The Constitution only prohibits Congress from passing an ex post facto law. Second, it was not a law, but rather a SCOTUS decision interpreting the law. Third, it explicitly stated a protection that has always been in the Constitution and is a logical extension of Nixon v. Fitzgerald.
@@fredmore8788 Actually, evidence is evidence whether it's bad or not. Bad evidence is evidence that is bad. That's sort of the point. Evidence is not interchangeable with 'fact.'
@lordsixxx6113 yeah trump should of been put in jail. But guess what?! That's how much of a joke that whole case is. They obviously did it to use it against him in his campaign because money wouldn't even bail 34 felonies out of jail. It's impossible. I went to juvenile detention at 13 for stealing a tech deck.
The illegitimate STOLEN Supreme Court is CORRUPT. Nothing could undermine America faster. Sad that Mitch McConnell and the rest of the GOP ushered in this bold corruption. Corrupt. Illegitimate. Partisan. This Court will go down in history as a ln utter disgrace. Congrats John Roberts, your legacy will be a sewer.
The NY hush money case has been completely adjudicated. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers. He is concerned about sentencing now. That's why the Supremes pushed this ruling through this week. But it's only going to DELAY sentencing in that case. The most serious cases are the Federal Jan. 6 charges and the theft of classified documents. He thinks his appointed lackey Cannon will keep kicking that case down the road infinitely. Espionage carries very heavy penalties. He knows that well due to Roy Cohn's involvement in having the Rosenberg's electrocuted to death when Trump was still an impressionable youth. Cohn was Trump's own first crooked lawyer. He knows what happened to the Rosenbergs and might prefer to be shark bait, after all, if found guilty of espionage. SCOTUS wants to see that justice is NOT done in that case.
Low information voter! Presidents do not have total immunity. The constitution states they are to defend the constitution. Biden violated the constitution when he opened the border, his sworn duty is to defend the country from invasion
This country hasn't been functioning very well in a long time. Trump did a lot of good for this country. President Trump is the best president I have seen in my lifetime.
You're another one who gets it wrong. All the charges relate to payments made to Cohen in 2017. The first charge was for a payment made in February 2017, and they go forward from there.
Kevin, that doesn’t go under official duties. It shouldn’t anyways. Let’s say Biden paid back Hunter for covering up a story that would damage him. Would you consider what Biden did an official duty?
Biden took Top secret documents home as a Senator!! Senators cannot remove classified information from the SCIF. Then he spread them all over Chinatown.
@@VinnieKumar-i6o you still going with that “project 2025” Hoax? That’s hilarious. Trump never agreed with that, but I understand that you guys have to make up hoax’s to try help.
...What's not to understand, The Supreme Court did this for Cheetolini, they wanted to make sure he avoids prison, in case he should win, he can then pardon himself of all crimes, past and future....Of course, the Supreme Court is just as corrupt as Cheetolini.
That's what I was thinking. However, I guess he continued to commit fraud after he took office. I honestly don't understand why he gets away with all of his crimes. Now that the Supreme Court has made an unconstitutional ruling, he might never serve time or even go to trial. It's sickening.
No it was during the 2016 election, but dude, I'm not sure how presidential immunity even factors in here, but that's just it, it's doesn't matter man. He doesn't need immunity for this case to not survive appeal. They couldn't cleary articulate a crime, I'm exhausted from explaining it, like if you respond for information on what happened in the court room I'll tell you, but you'll understand why this wasn't a real thing, this entire thing was done knowing it won't survive it. It was just to try to do what they acused Trump of doing, election Interferance. I'm not just saying that either, there is real irnoy here. You understand that's what was supposed to be the kicker to make this whole thing illegals right? Because the NDA wasn't the supposed crime, it was falsifying a business document, and that the payment to his attorney wasn't a legal expense, it was supposedly election Interferance, sound silly. Yeah I know. Considering there was witness testimony explaining how an nda isn't illegal.
@@swimminginthoughts there was, jan 6 was an attempt by trump to use his voters to overthrow the election because he knew he'd lost, same with the georgia call.
@@swimminginthoughts: Probably not in your country but there was one in the United States back in 2021 when a couple thousand people interfered with the Presidential inauguration process. They were able to delay it for several hours but it went ahead anyway and the new President elect was sworn in. If you need more info just ask!
Yup, what part of paying for a NDA is illegal? And why does Congress have a slush fud to pay off these kind of things with taxpayer money? At least Trump used his own money?
@@carolgriffiths6603not necessarily, ..I think that if you take a look at the near back circumstances of statements and motions that cannot be reversed, you will be pleased with the final outcome..
I’m from Denmark and I’ve loved America ever since I was a kid. I am very saddened and worried by watching America crumble more and more each day. Please keep Trump away from the White House.
Thanks for your love of our country and your support. We love our democratic brothers and sisters in Denmark, a beautiful country that has solved some of the very problems that we still struggle with. Please excuse our mess. We're having an outbreak of stupidity and fascism at the moment. We'll do our best to keep Trump away from the presidency. He's the worst president in history.
@@MarshallLore Celebrate! Yippee! ☺ Then we can all sing in one unified voice: From now on Happy days are here again /The skies above are clear again/ So let's sing a song of cheer again /Happy times, happy nights Happy days are here again. 🎤🎶 TRUMP 2024! ❤
@@thomasb.2699 whats so funny? Of coirse he's set to win the electoral college easily but he's ahead several points ahead in the popular vote too. What will you do?
There is a law which states that [any] judge cannot be sued for poor decisions they make (as a judge), but of course they can be sued for personal crimes (such as DWI). It seems the SC decision is basically stating that. The GOoPs are calling it a "big win" because what else would they call it?
@@RichardPierpoint-di8fi See what I mean? No matter what (Democrat, Republican, Independent) you defend inequality and never admit your wrong doings. Instead you attempt to question "my" intelligence and associate it with being Hispanic. You're ALL the same.
You will get nothing but crickets from Trump and the right regarding Epstein. Heck we have tons of video implicating Trump we don't even need any papers.
Epstein was at Mar a Lago and had been a welcome visitor UNTIL Trump found out the guy hit on a friend's young daughter. Trumps name never came up in the files. Lie some more
@@wrelensmashso just because you are POOR and probably a glutton you don't care to save this Country from being ruled by a dictator. All because you refuse to not be obese and to work harder. Wow. How selfish.
@@wrelensmash I assume as a MAGA mindless drone, you blame gov't spending for inflation. Just like Don the Con's record $8.4T in excess spending. His was more than twice Biden's. M ental patients A re G aslite A gain.
Yes. No matter WHAT anyone in Congress OR the Supreme Court does, American VOTERS can decide on our future Nov. 5th. If we can indeed elect the next TWO presidents, we have virtually a sure opportunity to OVERTURN THIS KANGAROO SUPREME COURT. THAT is the only path COMPLETELY UNDER OUR CONTROL so we MUST take it. Don't count on any convictions, no packing of the Supreme Court, no other remedies: VOTE like EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON IT, because IT DOES.
Even if you didn't like Biden's performance at the debate, fair enough. But don't let that deter you from voting Democrat in Nov. Its the only way to save the America you know right now. Biden can step down AFTER the election and let Harris Take over. If people DON'T vote Dem in Nov, America will be lost for the next 100 years!! Make no mistake, voters are the ONLY mechanism left to stop Trump for ever.
Exactly! I like your idea! People are so busy freaking out over the decision of the Supreme Court justices! Rightfully so but we have to think how to keep our democracy intact! I’m voting blue even if it means, I have to help Jill prop him up!
After seeing Biden's debate performance I am happy to say I am no longer a life long democrat. Will be voting Trump and hoping it isn't too late to clean up the mess Biden has created around the world.
@litontap the stormy Daniel's case didn't go public til he ran for president either 🙄 You know why? He wasn't planning on running for president during the time they allegedly hooked up. If them 2 did get together it's a little obvious that certain people were trying to get in the spotlight
The SC decision ALSO made it not allowed to use evidence obtained from when he WAS president, which some of the information in the trial had come forth from.
@@justindull-kh8gtTrump ran for President as a Reform Party candidate but lost the nomination to David Duke. 2016 was his best chance and he was desperate to hide more of his disgusting behavior from voters.
Records were not 'falsified'. Even if they could claim wrongdoing, a misdemeanor, at best, was blown up into a federal crime. Lawfare. Bogus. Will be overturned on appeal.
@@gk2811Nope. The 5/29 "insurrection" wasn't an official act. And the "insurrection" you're thinking of was neither insurrection nor incited by 45. You'd know that if you had a balanced set of news sources. Example, Glenn Greenwald hates 45 as much as you do, and thinks 45 is mostly helping the elites and Wall Street, but can't deny the facts that he's never come close to inciting violence. He's incited protest and denounced violence. Try watching his recent coverage of the incident.
