Owner Shocked By Value Of Gift From Duke Of Wellington | Antiques Roadshow

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All valuations were correct at the time of broadcast. This delightful games table from around the 1780s/1790s exhibits exotic timbers such as thuya wood, rosewood and kingwood, and came into this lady’s family via someone who was either a secretary or valet to the Duke of Wellington. When he got married, the Duke gave him this table. Hugh Scully and the experts from Antiques Roadshow take a look at some fantastic antiques and the history and stories surrounding them. This clip was filmed in Syon Park in 1999.
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@mm-yt8sf 11 месяцев назад

note to self: i should invite as many dukes as possible to any weddings i might have in the future 🙂

@madhavoc1 7 месяцев назад

Food for thought !! Any WEDDING you have in the future will completely Trump ANY possible financial gain from an item given ... lol Cost you WAAAAAAAAAAY more for a pointless wedding .. lol

@iMadrid11 6 месяцев назад

If you don’t know the Duke personally. He’ll just send a proxy as his representative to attend your wedding. This guy who received the desk and tea set as wedding gift was a close trusted servant by the Duke. Who attended to him regularly. That’s why the Duke gave him a special gift.

@aaronleblanc9276 11 месяцев назад

Good thing there’s no chance of a freak rainstorm in the British Isles. :-/

@paulb2092 11 месяцев назад

Considering the title, I wonder how many people thought, "That's all?" when they heard the value he gave.

@BeastOrGod 11 месяцев назад

Weeell, the playing cards are missing XD

@leechap3 11 месяцев назад

I did,

@GarC170 11 месяцев назад

Honestly considering this was 1999 and how strong the pound used to be to the dollar that does sound like a lot honestly.

@TBrl8 10 месяцев назад

The perception of the value of money is subjective. Old English people born before the Great War probably don’t think the way you do, assuming you’re not one of them.

@jacksmalling4265 9 месяцев назад

Approximately £18,000 in 'modern money'.

@tytn9978 8 месяцев назад

The woman who brought this unique gaming table is so utterly "English" and thus delightful! The hand-palm to the forehead with the "thank you to the Duke of Wellington" is priceless!

@adriang2053 4 месяца назад

Be more appropriate if she had a burka on nowadays and kissed her teeth at the valuation amount.

@williamlavagna1096 Год назад

Not gonna lie but I thought 50 grand :/

@edithengel2284 Год назад

About 18,000 GBP today with inflation.

@kmc7062 Год назад

I too was thinking a much higher value.

@AdamBechtol 11 месяцев назад

Aye@@kmc7062

@smallsmalls3889 11 месяцев назад

Cheap as Chips

@impbotb4434 11 месяцев назад

Who’s the creeper in front of the tree?

@spindle69jm Год назад

I'm very suspicious of the guy by the Bush, don't know why but he's just a bit shifty!

@geoffdundee Год назад

@spindle69jm .......could be the womans son

@Ivehadenuff 11 месяцев назад

LOL!

@richclarke1523 11 месяцев назад

My grt grt grandfather's was in the Coldstream Guards, at the Tower of London in 1851, and he was a pallbearers at the Duke of Wellingtons funeral. He and other NCIs had dinner with Queen Victoria. I have a pen and ink drawing of the ncos and Victoria. He and his wife died at the ages of 28 a few days later, from tb . It was terrible weather for the funeral. His son was orphaned and adopted.

@DodderingOldMan 8 месяцев назад

Aw man... what a fascinating and sad story, all in just a few sentences.

@mariahoulihan9483 7 месяцев назад

many years ago.. decades... I visited Apsley House, by Hyde Park.the now museum where Wellington lived. I seem to recall a detailed very long picture of Wellingtons funeral procession.. its a long time ago but I am sure they had it. might be worth looking online.. sere if your relative can be made out. Time has dimmed the memory.not sure if it had sections of the funeral on it too.

@HeadstoneHistoryGuy 8 месяцев назад

My wife's 3x great grandfather, James Kendall, was the Duke of Wellington's valet for approx 25 years. He married my wife's 3x great grandmother, Rachel, in 1846 when he'd have been employed by the Duke for over 20 years so would make sense that he received a wedding gift like this. James and Rachel died in the mid 1870s and my theory is that their daughter Frances inherited the table from her parents. Sadly, France's husband died in 1889 while training to be a lawyer and that left her and their children in a poor financial state. I wonder if Frances had to sell the table in order bolster the family finances. Just a theory but the dates and events stack up. Amazing to see something connected to the family though.

@Cabledeluz1977 7 месяцев назад

8500? That’s it? Well, I’ll take it for that price!

@marchappyharriscom 11 месяцев назад

This makes me wonder when people started being interested in antiques (not just family heirlooms). I’m wondering because either this was given when the duke was a young man, and not yet the duke, or it was already an old table (or the story is a family legend). Certainly in 1999, receiving a hundred year old table as a wedding gift would be pretty cool. But in 1880 would someone have appreciated a gift of a random table made in 1780?

@HenryMulligan 11 месяцев назад

Interesting point. Perhaps the Duke was cleaning out the storage a bit. I imagine a hundred year old table from a Duke would still be quite better than any of the tables at the neighbors' houses.

@Galastel 11 месяцев назад

It was quite common for more affluent people to pass down things they were no longer using to servants, in the army - to batmans, etc. The class divide was huge, so such gifts were accepted with gratitude. Then again, you're a bit off with your dates. Wellington was commanding forces in India in 1798. The Peninsular War started in 1808. By 1880, Wellington was 30 years dead.

@EndertheWeek 11 месяцев назад

I don't think they thought of antiques as we do but these pieces were hand made and as explained a lot of quality workmanship had gone in to it. I have no idea if there were copies but it was sill an exceptional piece anytime in its history. I love wood and working with wood and it hurts my soul that this level of craftsmanship is either viewed as luxury or unlikely today rather than the more commonplace of the past.

@marchappyharriscom 11 месяцев назад

@@GalastelNote that there were many dukes, and she didn’t say which one gave the gift. This gift could have been anything from a new item given before he was a duke, a “used” item given once he became a duke, to an “antique” given by a later duke.

@Galastel 11 месяцев назад

@@marchappyharriscom You're right, of course, that there was more than one Duke of Wellington. In fact, the 9th Duke of Wellington is alive and well today, he's a British peer and politician. But when anyone mentions "The Duke of Wellington", they usually think of the 1st. Even the 2nd Duke, ascending to the title, commented "Imagine what it will be when the Duke of Wellington is announced, and only I walk in the room" (according to Wikipedia). So if one doesn't mean the 1st Duke of Wellington, I think one would specify that.

@aituk 11 месяцев назад

No way did she write that story down

@mariahoulihan9483 7 месяцев назад

my thoughts exactly. Typical of her type I am afraid.. I knew lady like this.. you couldn;t tell her anything and it didn't become her own idea in seconds. lol.

@issaclassic7 3 месяца назад

This lady needs to learn not to talk over people

@colinkaak9874 Год назад

Getting Hyacinth Bucket vibes here.

@Captain_Tumbleweed 11 месяцев назад

It's pronounced Bouquet ;)

@JC-sd3vh 11 месяцев назад

Totally agree. I happen to know her, and her name is Aggie Clackett from Cleethorpes, swears like a trooper, clean municipal toilets for a living. I think she is acting posh too, very Bucket like.

@Kicking-m4c Год назад

Love this show👍🏻👌🏻💪🏻🇦🇺🌏😊

@bradyaddison585 7 месяцев назад

All those years and those spindly legs were never broken by kids rough housing in the house.

@Chris-ty7fw Год назад

Seems cheap

@jeanhawken4482 Год назад

Very special indeed

@TheInsaneupsdriver 11 месяцев назад

My great uncle made a jewelry box for the queen.

@logicphile6207 11 месяцев назад

Got any examples of the boxes he made?

@DavidHarperAntiques Год назад

One of my hero’s from British history

@kurtgodel5236 11 месяцев назад

heroes

@mulemule 11 месяцев назад

One of *my* heroes from culinary history.

@kurtgodel5236 11 месяцев назад

@@mulemule Does someone naming a dish after you make you a culinary hero?

@mulemule 11 месяцев назад

@@kurtgodel5236 Only if its Gordon Ramsay's Wellington.

@U1bhFhaile 7 месяцев назад

Wasn't he Irish? 😜

@subaruthug 8 месяцев назад

I loved watching this guy in "The Two Ronnies"

@mythgreatbritain5634 Год назад

I always love how these well spoken, no doubt well off, people feign surprise when told the value of something they only brought on to show off.

@athitayastirling8259 Год назад

So well spoken she can't pronounce valet properly 😂😂😂😂

@DeltaStar777 Год назад

😂😂😂

@samsativa245 11 месяцев назад

This item would have been in her family for 200 years, they have no idea of the true value of it, to them it is just something which take sup space and doesn't have a use

@samsativa245 11 месяцев назад

@@athitayastirling8259 Pronounced it the English way because she is English

@sfhomes4you 11 месяцев назад

I think we're all happy they bring their best along. The show wouldn't be as entertaining if all we saw was tat people think might have some value.

@jakecavendish3470 11 месяцев назад

Hang on, is there any actual evidence for any of this?! I could get any old vase from 1854 and say "Prince Albert had a waz in this, give us a fiver guv"

@GnosticAtheist 11 месяцев назад

No, the value was set for the item, not the story. For a value to be recognized you need more than a story and its usually something to do with the creator of the item, not who had it. That said, a story can bring up the price when selling it to some gullible person, but thats neither here nor there.

@jakecavendish3470 11 месяцев назад

Oh I agree that with provenance it would be worth far more, but £8.5k on a 1790s card table is ridiculous unless it literally belonged to the Duke of Boots. You can buy late- Georgian satinwood games tables for about £800.

@Davyjones5454 4 месяца назад

How to proof to future buyer it came from Wellington ? There is no drawing, no bill of sale and no correspondence.

@albertcross4275 11 месяцев назад

Don't beleave it, l have a sandwich, from lord sandwich... Honestly 🤔🤔🤔🤔🇫🇷

@mariahoulihan9483 7 месяцев назад

Earl, surely.

@luatala8008 5 месяцев назад

Definitely can’t play chess on it as board is wrong way round. So it’s a useless item.

@haroldmclean3755 Год назад

Rather Nice indeed 👍

@marydenise10 11 месяцев назад

Wow outstanding

@driftdotus 8 месяцев назад

I like that Tabletop with all the different rare woods

@mariapilarme 11 месяцев назад

I am glad he didn’t burned the table.

@gordonhamilton727 Год назад

That means it's worth about 2 grand, a quarter of what the insurance value is.

@jeremykothe2847 11 месяцев назад

He can't even resist the grift script... You must have this insured, it's worth a fortune! You can't afford that much insurance? I know a guy who could sell it for you. Oh, the market is soft, but it's better than nothing? Thanks for the commission!

@TransoceanicOutreach 11 месяцев назад

Nowadays with solid provenance that table is worth many tens of thousands.

@jeremykothe2847 11 месяцев назад

@@TransoceanicOutreach and ?

@garryferrington811 7 месяцев назад

Quite a lot of these sorts of things disappeared on Guy Fawkes night.

@thedisabledwelshman9266 11 месяцев назад

what do you mean sort of? it either is or it isnt.

@therealisation5500 11 месяцев назад

The Duke of Wellington gave it to him aye right so he did

@GH-oi2jf Год назад

The chessboard is sideways, so I hope it is square and fits the other way.

@PhilipKerry 11 месяцев назад

The chessboard is correct , you sit with your knees under the overhanging ends and you have somewhere to place captured pieces chess clock or drinks .......

@johnsy4306 11 месяцев назад

The chess board is incorrectly oriented.

@fburton8 11 месяцев назад

Unless the players sit at the ends of the flaps - which doesn't seem very ergonomic. 😳

@PhilipKerry 11 месяцев назад

@@fburton8 The player sits there as the " flaps " provide a place to put a chess clock captured pieces or beverages . the " ergonomics " are fine ....

@fburton8 11 месяцев назад

@@PhilipKerry Yes, but then the board orientation is incorrect.

@themouse7506 11 месяцев назад

for 8 grand I could buy a new one for that.

@davidbird380 11 месяцев назад

did she find it in a skip or pay 25p in a charity shop?

@norabatungbacal6636 11 месяцев назад

It's not suthenticated. So the value is far far less

@indiopeninsulares6723 10 месяцев назад

Obviosly she was hot back then to be gifted by the duke.lol

@caferune6355 Год назад

Which Duke of Wellington?

@wiliammound7942 Год назад

Which one do you think?

@brucefreadrich1188 Год назад

Made in the 1780s -1790s? The one that gave the little corporal a right good thrashing might have puttered his pawns about on that.

@ricgunn1439 Год назад

Only One

@caferune6355 Год назад

@@ricgunn1439 Nine*

@DrPangloss Год назад

The "Duke of Wellington" pub, on the corner opposite primark

@unknownperson2422 11 месяцев назад

I had beef wellington and the only thing I got from it was indigestion.

@Skyebright1 7 месяцев назад

There’s a lady in Australia who poisoned her ex husband’s parents with poisonous mushrooms in a beef Wellington

@AG-iv6jf 9 месяцев назад

The lady sounds almost like queen Elizabeth!!

@mariahoulihan9483 7 месяцев назад

nothing like her.

@mathematician1234 9 месяцев назад

Our Atty!

@ladybird7845 6 месяцев назад

✔️

@boqndimitrov8693 11 месяцев назад

any tree eater who got into this table would feel like hitting the jackpot! 😊

@cricketcustomer2164 11 месяцев назад

Have never heard that phrase "tree eater" . Could someone explain? Thank you 😊

@wisenheimer9997 Год назад

Yes... and my desk here was given to me by Henry VIII...

@yvoheaton6402 Год назад

So very tempted to respond with something equally crass but thought better of it.

@wisenheimer9997 Год назад

@@yvoheaton6402 You have to eventually prove it was given to you by the Duke of Wellington... saying it isn't quite enough...

@4CONCEPTA Год назад

😂😂

@roberthudson1959 11 месяцев назад

There is a timing problem with this piece being a gift from Field Marshal Sir Arthur Wellesley, !st Duke of Wellington. The piece is dated as being from the 1780's or 90's, and Wellesley wasn't in a position to make that kind of gift at that point. He didn't have a lot of money until 1804, the same year he was knighted. Wellesley didn't become Viscount Wellington until 1809.

@oliverr6246 11 месяцев назад

Maybe it was a gift to the Duke many years after it was made.

@PhilipKerry 11 месяцев назад

The date is for the Table NOT the date it was given as a present ..... Keep up son ...... Also he was a General in the British Army for years before he became Lord Wellington , how many impoverished Generals have you heard of ????

@roberthudson1959 11 месяцев назад

@@PhilipKerry Unless it had sentimental value, why would someone give a used item as a gift? Second, the statement "he didn't have a lot of money until 1804..." was researched. Richard Wellesley, 1st Marquis Wellesley, was appointed Governor-General of India in 1798 and appointed his brother commander of the Army forces in India. General Wellesley's fortune increased considerably until his return to England in 1804.

@PhilipKerry 11 месяцев назад

@@roberthudson1959 It says his " fortune increased " which means he had a " fortune " in the first place , it just became a bigger " fortune " . Also people regularly gave items they owned as gifts in those days especially if the recipient had expressed a liking for the object previously . I know reading English is hard for some .

@roberthudson1959 11 месяцев назад

@@PhilipKerry I don't mind professional debates, but I despise personal ones. Have a good life.

@EgoCityGamingUK Год назад

I usually thank god but each to their own, maybe she knows something I don’t.

@philipmorris3684 Год назад

But who decides what the prices are going to be, it had to start by one person, in the 50s tat like that would have ended up on the bonfire by the kids collecting for the bonfire. 😂

@dallassukerkin6878 Год назад

The 'market' decides and factors drive up or down the prices that people are willing to pay. It's all fundamentally down to collectability and desirability and fashion can inflate or decimate the price of any piece. As you say, there are 'windows' of time too which determine whether something is merely out-of-date or antique - I have quite a bit of glassware from the 50's, for example, which at the moment is largely worthless but could gain value in another decade or two :fingers crossed: :D

@magdn1 11 месяцев назад

There was an old AR episode where someone came in with a chair they saved from a bonfire. Apparently there was an entire living room full of matching chairs and tables and whatnot and the previous owner set it all on fire. The chair turned out to be an Carlo Bugatti and was worth thousands. And still is. So someone lit what would be six figures on fire right there because he thought that his particular sense of aesthetics was eternal und universal.

@daidavies6210 Год назад

What a load of tosh… Darkwood furniture is Unsellable these day no matter what it is… Regardless of who owned it. Its value has Plummeted..

@JohnSmith-pl2bk 11 месяцев назад

1999... 24 years ago this was the valuation. Times change tastes...or taste changes over time...

@PhilipKerry 11 месяцев назад

Not unsaleable as it depends on personal tastes , not everyone shops at B&M ...........

@mariahoulihan9483 7 месяцев назад

that programme wasn;t made THESE DAYS.. its an old recording.

@heartofoak45 Год назад

This makes superb television, in contrast to the pale imitation woke programme of today. Today they would probably have been discussing John Lennon's washbag. It makes my blood boil.

@andrewvictor1865 Год назад

No, they would have been discussing a Matabele hitting stick

@brucefreadrich1188 Год назад

In the British Library (the one that was attached to the British Museum) there used to be a display case containing a Gutenberg Bible, a Magna Carta, and a napkin with words written in blue ink: "Yesterday, all my troubles looked so far away, Now it seems as though they are here to stay… etc."

@vernonbear Год назад

Woke 😂😂😂 Antiques Roadshow woke PMSL you are living in a dream world.

@heartofoak45 Год назад

I am afraid in my quill and ink world I had to google PMSL. Your comment falls short of me, thankfully. @@vernonbear

@alanhindle3149 Год назад

I didn't hear anybody attacking vulnerable minorities, insulting racial or cultural differences, or oppressing women. The clip, at least, seemed pretty "woke" to me, and all the better for it.