You talked about gas for 90% of this video, long story short, If gas is a concern this car is not for you. If driving a car that's a lot of fun and looks cool is your thing, than this car is for you.
Well, I've had two 2011 P7Bs, first one was best car I ever had, never had a single issue in the 3 years I had it except for a spark plug going bad, but honestly I think whoever put it in there put it no more than finger tight. Pulled the coilpack out and it was just sitting there unthreaded, threads were fine. Put a new plug in real quick since it was like -20 and drove it with no issues for a solid year. That car got rear ended by some dummy on their phone. Happened to be another one for sale, and really didn't have many other options at the time - Used car prices were severely jacked up by Covid inflation. (2021ish) The second Vic needed a lot more love. Replaced all of the suspension cept for lower control arms front and back... and then yeah the transmission did fail, got it rebuilt and now the thing runs, drives, and handles like new. Put a bit more money into it than I expected to but I absolutely love the thing now. Never had intake problems on either. Both were 2011's so I don't think they ever came with the old faulty recall fully plastic intakes on em. @@davidb9323
@@davidb9323the transmission is pretty eh, but if you’re mechanically inclined it’s a really easy drop n swap since it’s RWD, or just buy one and open it up and get an overhaul kit and rebuild it every once in a while, it’s a 4 speed ford tranny it’s pretty basic construction wise Rebuild Kit~$300, expect it to come out to like 370 ish with all your fluids bought
I almost bought a Marauder but realized I drive like 50 miles a day lol. Shame too I love the. Body shapes of these cars but it just doesn’t make sense for me to buy one. Shame
I'm in the U.S. Right now gas prices are around $3.20 a gallon, but they have been over twice that. I am a recently retired municipal government (city) fleet services mechanic. I have been driving and working on Crown Vics for over 30 years. I started out with a couple of old beat up ex cop cars, and despite their condition, they just kept going and going and going. Never needed anything more than minor repairs. I have worked on hundreds of them, so I know them well. Then 11 years ago, I moved up to a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis, with 97,000 miles on it. It was super nice compared to those cop cars. I still have it, it now has 381,000 miles on it, and still runs like new. I paid $7,000 for it, from a private seller. Since I have owned it, it has required less than $800 in repair parts (alternator, serpentine belt tensioner, MAF sensor, blend door actuator, drivers door power window regulator, coil springs to replace the rear air bags that failed, a used drivers side sun visor and the cup holder/ash tray assembly that I broke) I did my own work. If looks mean something to you, I don't recommend buying a white one, as the paint peels off all the white ones. All other colors seem to be fine. Yes, I have seriously over maintained mine. Still, nothing lasts forever. So about 6 months ago I bought a like new, one owner, 2007 Grand Marquis, which came with a stack of maintenance receipts, and only had 36,000 miles on it. That's right, thirty six thousand miles. It's a brand new car. The only thing I found wrong with it was that it needed new windshield wipers. I paid $10,000 cash for it, from a private seller. No fees, no tax. That's peanuts compared to what a new or really late model piece of JUNK costs. I fully expect to get another 400,000 miles out of this car, if I live long enough. I'm still driving the 2006, and will continue to drive it until the engine or transmission fails, then I will keep it as a parts car for the 2007. I'm in Phoenix, AZ, and cars just don't rust here. Neither one of my cars has a speck of rust. I don't recommend getting an ex police car, for a few reasons. One, they are usually trashed (but still usually more reliable than just about anything else) two, they are pretty basic, and not nearly as comfortable as a civilian model or a Grand Marquis. They have hard seats and stiff suspension. And three, they have a 3.55 rear axle ratio, which is quite low. It causes the engine and transmission to turn over a lot faster at normal speeds, burns more gas, and wears out the engine and transmission faster. The standard model Crown Vic and Grand Marquis have a 2.73 rear axle. They will cruise at 65 mph on the highway at just above idle, and get 30+ mpg on the highway. They also have much better seats and softer suspension. They average around 16-17 mpg in town. Yes, that can get expensive. But consider the cost of the car. I paid $10,000 cash for a like new extremely low mileage V8 powered rear wheel drive luxury car that is ultra reliable, will last almost forever, easy and cheap to work on, has a plentiful parts supply, and any shop can work on it if you can't do your own work. Now compare that to a new $50,000 POS that will be lucky to make it past 100,000 miles, only dealers can work on, is loaded with all kinds of TRASH technology (the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis use mostly 1990s technology) and will lose over half its value in just a few years, if it even lasts that long. You will save a fortune buying a nice Crown Vic/Grand Marquis and taking care of it no matter what gas costs, than winding up with a $800 a month car payment for 6-7 years. These cars can be kept going forever. The cost of replacing the engine and transmission with rebuilt ones, including labor, is around $10,000, then you can go another few hundred thousand miles.
Yes, you should get one. These beauties are some of the best cars ever made. Their possibilities are endless and their ease to maintain is great. I currently have an 08 retired Indiana State Police unit in all black and it now has over 319K miles and I enjoy it now as much as I did when I bought it over 4 years ago. While owning one isn't for the weak, they are definitely worth it. I'd own 100 of them if I had the place to put them all.
yeah i’m a teen in the Illinois, i get paid weekly. i’m dropping usually $40 a paycheck every paycheck at the gas station and i don’t even drive much😅 but i’ve gotten a taste for these cars that i don’t think i’m gonna be able to shake off.
Dude don't hesitate find one in good shape and embrace it it'll be the most reliable enjoyable call you've ever had. The getting scarcer and scarcer nowadays but it's well worth to find one
Just something about a p71 that I absolutely love. I had a 2003 years ago. I am going to go look at a 2010 tomorrow with 86k miles. Looks to be in great shape. A tiny rust spot on the front fender which is common. No rot or rust anywhere else supposively. Here in Masachusetts it is very common for these cars to rot to nothing. It is an ex k9 car and comes with all the lights and even the dog cage.
I own one (2011 P7B, "detective" edition with ballistic panels in the front doors, in Louisiana, USA), and will be driving it in 2024, 2025, 2026 … you get the picture :) Absolutely love it, super reliable, comfy ride ... and with US gas prices not bad at all (I would even keep driving it with Canadian gas prices, or if we had German / European gas prices - where I am from originally).
I bought a 2000 P71 with 64,000 miles in 2004. Amazing car. I bought a 2008 in 2018 with 150,000 miles and it was horrible. It soured my view on CVs. Granted that one was in a lot worked shape than I expected. My favorite CV is the 1989 I owned for from 2004 to 2008. I wish I still had it.
I live in BC, and i got my 09 crown vic police interceptor for 4200 total with insurance and everything. Has 143k miles (230k km) white with a matt black hood and a sentia pb 400 qi (quick installation) push bar so i got no holes cut in my bumber, which i heard was rare with bright white leds lights on it. Has a full carfax service history, and when i bought the car, the previous owner changed the intake manifold, ignition coil, and spark plugs, new battery wheel alignment and i got new tires just need to change my brakes soon. Also, have a full rear windows tinted. Safe to say, i got a very good deal on it. I also think the car was an ex BC sheriffs vehicle due to the matt black hood on it, and I've only seen the black hood on the sheriffs cars
I did intake manifolds on both of my vics 🤣 took 2 and a half hours the biggest headache is the EGR hose on the manifold because if it comes lose your lucky lol
To anyone who may buy this car in 2023 (idk if this is mentioned in the video, admittedly, I don't have time to watch, but I wanted to mention this in case): Buy an Intake Manifold and keep it in the garage. It's not a matter of if, but when, they will fail, they will piss coolant all over your spark plugs, and you will have to replace it. And they're getting harder to get! So buy a Panther? It's mandatory to buy an Intake Manifold. Save yourself the future headache. It's the one thing I wish I knew about these cars before buying one. I love my car, but could've saved the headache! MGM 2008.
Krown, Rust Check, Fluid Film….they all work. Used cars I’ve had it done to stopped rusting and new cars I’ve had never started. I now do it myself in order to do it thoroughly. Kijiji now shows prices asked of over 10,000 Canadian, in decent shape. The days of 1,500 dollar auction Vics are done.
Yuuup!! If you want a Crown Victoria even in meh condition you better be ready to pay up here in Canada. Crazy to think you used to be able to pick up used 4 to 6 year old ones with 150 to 170K kms and 2000 to 3000 idle hours for $2,000 to $4,000 off kijiji all day every day back in the early 2010s. How naïve we were then.
Hello fellow Canadian, I been buying the P71's since 1998. My heart broke when they stop making the Crown Vic in 2011. I bought a Dodge Police Vehicle and they looks good but when you can't stop because you over heated your brakes that's suck. I live in the States and the cars can be cheaper. Born in Moncton N.B.
What do you think about the ford crown victoria model aero from 1992/97 i live in Brazil and down here it 's the easist model to find and i love it , i 'd like your feedback would help a lot 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the video. Wished you would have spent a little more time in the interior, engine, trunk, and the tires. I just bought a 2008 same color here in south central Texas. 172000 miles. Still solid as a rock. I have to agree with you on the gas milage. Down here the gas is still a lot lower than what you are dealing with. On the highway I have gotten as high as 23mpg, in town about the same as you 17 mpg. Made the hair on the back of my neck seeing that rust, the kiss of death for sure. Car looks great thjough.
My 06 has 295k miles on it and the only major repair I've had to do in the last 5 years is replace the rear axle assembly because I let a wheel bearing go too long and it destroyed itself. Good news is I just yanked one out of the junk yard and threw it into my car. Get one of these cars and it will serve you for years. I've put over 100k on mine and it's been a peach.
Hey can you suggest me reliable website where I can buy a crown Victoria and modified the steering wheel to right side and import it to other country. Anyways nice Vic you got!
I got a grand marquis 06 month ago for 3,500 with some paint damage just cosmetics basically fixed it up already 96k miles im the second owner you can find the deals
so glad mine runs propane. $0.50/L. bought it in 2021 straight from the auction for 2500 bucks, and no rust in ontario which is crazy. The propane makes it cheaper to run than a corolla or just about anything else
You're super lucky. I can safely say filling these at $2/L is not a fun experience. For the average 15 to 20k kms a year you're talking $4,000+ just to run one of these things for gas only. It's insane. As bad as a car payment lol.
@@flyer2359x Have you seen car payments lately? For a $50,000 POS, plus all the dealer fees, 10% interest for 6-7 years, expensive full coverage insurance, you are looking at around $1200 USD a month for 6-7 years. The car won't even last that long. I generally drive around 25,000 MILES a year (mostly highway) and my Grand Marquis gets 30+ mph highway. That's another reason why it is lasting so long. City miles are several times harder on a car than highway miles. Compared to ANY new car, a good Panther car is an absolute bargain, not just to buy, but to maintain, repair, and drive.
I have one and the 3:55 rear end doesn't help the fuel mileage. However, that's why my other car is a Honda Civic. Ahem...30-35mpg! I wouid never part with either. I'm in the states and both happen to built in Canada.
Hey flyer2359x, is there a chance to purchase a canadian speedometer or just the face in Km/h? I'm searching the web for a long time, but i don't find any items yet. I buy a Crown Vic in 2019 from the US-Police. Here in Germany it is better to have the Km/h on the outside ring like you Peopole in Canada. Greetings
Yup and 8 or 9 years ago people said they'd be around forever. Now finding a clean one is impossible unless you want to fork out a ton of money. This is especially true in the salt belt of North America where most of these have rusted away.
+s: comfort ride, extended periods, smooth ride, handles well for the size-engine, power: V8 4.6L. -s: rear light module can(will) fail or break, Intake Manifold will crack up or fail. My used 2005 LX Sport P74 had the intake manifold go ⬇️. Hoses & seals can start to break apart due(rot, wear). Driver seat rear panel came off(due to extreme summer heat, sun). Id add even in 2023, you STILL have many drivers, traffic who may think your a cop 👮🏼♂️ or in a LE dept vehicle. I had a hit & run, rear panel damage from a large SUV that saw my CV & zip off.
I had to replace the manifold on my 2011 (as expected, $400 with the original part, not a China copy) and the oil cooler (which is actually an oil warmer, and in the new 2009 design, the part was only $35) .. those are normal maintenance things, like brake discs, exhausts, etc .. which do not deter me from my P7B at all! I'll be driving and loving it for years to come!
The cost of buying one has...plus gasoline.. .but i drive mostly highway with mine in the states...but if u look at no Monthly payments, cheap insurance, less cost to maintain, parts available, its cheap for me in the states....my buick le sabre git better mileage..but sadly lost it in tornado.
I have an '04 sport model with only 130k miles and runs well with a good interior but it's rusting out. I'd like to get it all fixed up but it just doesn't make any financial sense.
Yeahhhhh that's how I feel unfortunately. Getting a newer car will be cheaper in the overall long run of things atm. Just can't bring myself to say goodbye to her though lol.
I also have a 04 LX sport. They made 3235 of them in 04, got it figured maybe it's a couple hundred left on the road. Luckily mine is pretty much in pristine condition. Body parts are readily available for those who might want to consider looking into it will maintain those cars can last ovy 500,000 miles
@terrym5023 I own a used 2005 Ford P74 LX Sport with 180000mi. I bought it for $2900 in 2020. I could of got a used P71 police CV, 2008 for around $800.00 more. I like the P74 Crown Vic for several reasons but the V8 4.6L is bad on gas ⛽️ if you commute, drive often. CVs often get bad intake manifolds: design flaw. They also, over time-14/15/16 years can develop problems with the rear light module(rear lights). My car had a transmission, Ford brand new replaced 2016. I had new Bosch spark plugs, new water pump, new alternator added. As well as new Goodyear tires, new battery. Ford CVs are cool but as time 2020s go, they will wear down. Break apart.
177. If it had manifold and stuff replaced amd limited rust and play price I would. They are old though so you'll get a couple issues here and there of course. They're reliable not Toyota reliable though but they're durable.
Legitimately likely any late 00s Corolla, Civic etc. Admittedly, not nearly as fun to drive but would save you money in the long haul just on gas. Here where I'm at gas is $7.19/gal and will likely be $8.00 soon (Canada, Nova-Scotia) going from 18MPG @ 12,000 miles per year is $4,800 on fuel. Driving a car that gets 30 MPG would drop that cost to $2,880 a year. Already saving about $1,200 in fuel just like that. Run the car for 5 years you're looking at a $6,000 savings. Even a car that averages 21 to 22 MPG (the average V6) would save you about 500 to 600 dollars per year in fuel.
Never said it's a bad car. But financial facts when gas is as high as it is here is reality and they are getting old whether we all like it or not. I still love my car and CVs, but it is a reality.
Btw i didn't enjoy the video. I'm 22 years of age in Cleveland Ohio United States i live my corown vics and to be honest he's down playing the value of these cars. They are in fact becoming rare but there is still a surplus of parts for these panther platforms. (Panther platform may include...) Mercury Maradour, Mercury Grand Marquis, 1990s to early 2000s crown Victoria's, Lincoln Town Cars. Guys all of these cars have one unique thing in common. BODY ON FRAME. The factory 4.6 liter and a ton of room for upgrades. I currently own 2 crown Victorias (2005) (2001) they're very good in snow if you put correct tires on and keep the underside of the car clean and free of any salt. (A car wash wouldn't kill anyone)
Never said they weren't good in snow. If you watch most of my other snow videos I talk about how good they are. I don't think I downplayed the value of the cars at all, especially when I listed off the prices! But it is a fact that they are older and becoming more of an enthusiasts ride than anything (and that isn't a bad thing, either). I miss the days when you could get good crown vics only 4 to 5 years old with 75 to 80K mi for $2,500 to $3,500.
