In the history of all television?? Hmm. I definitely disagree. I couldn’t take Oz seriously, especially when he’s getting into his van, he’s so teeny! 😝
when i first watched this episode i thought she said "tell me you love me", and honestly, for some reason, that hurt way more to me when i thought that's what she said
In the season 4 Halloween episode Willow's fear is Oz leaving her and Oz's fear is not being able to control the wolf and hurting Willow. It was a good set up to this scene
At least Oz had a reason of leaving Willow unlike that Xander who moans and complain about everything when he turns his back on the women he dated and wanted to marry. I'm glad that Buffy didn't date him because he would of left her abandoned too.
Me too. But it apparently would not have had a happy ending. Word was that had Oz and Willow stayed together and Oz not have left, it would have been Oz, not Tara, who would have taken the fatal bullet fired by Warren in Season Six. Willow was always going to go Dark, but it would have been Oz’s death that would have been the catalyst had he stayed.
This scene is the first most saddest moment the second was when he left her again 💔 I love Seth Green and Alyson they made a great couple on the show I'm sorry for the Tara and Willow fans but I will forever love Oz and Willow
i cant stop crying. i already loved willow all the time, she is my favourite character... and then there was oz.... and because she fell in love with him... i 'felt' for him too.. and i loved them so much together... and this just broke my heart.
I always liked the bit where she says "Don't I get a say?" and he flatly replies "No." no overblown drama or angst, just someone who has made up their mind and is trying to hold it together but you can see is barely doing so. I always felt Oz was one of the strongest characters (possibly because as a supporting character, he wasn't over used) and the point where he left marks when the show began to lose it's appeal to me not because of that, specifically, I just realised I wasn't so interested in the stories any more.
I think that Oz was essential for making Willow grow into the person that Tara fell in love with. I don't think Pre-Oz Willow would never be confident enough to have that kind of relationship. Willow was extremely supportive of Oz's wolfiness and she gave Oz his own confidence to go and find a cure. This scene is heartbreaking, but I think that it shaped them both as people and I don't believe that Willow and Tara would be Willow and Tara without it.
I felt really sorry for Oz. He had no control when the Wolf took over, otherwise he never would have cheated with Veruca and destroyed Willow. He left to get control of it because he loved Willow dearly. Oz was crushed when he hurt Willow. He never meant for it to happen.
@@KentPetersonmoney same it really annoyed me too. Then he came back but Tara was there and he left i couldn't believe it! Like noo!! I dont like you tara aha
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 I think that it was but he was ignoring it. Buffy has always been great at metaphors and I've always wondered if Oz's cage is a literal interpretation of him locking away some side of himself that he is too ashamed to admit to.
This scene...breaks my heart. At the end where he turns on the car then turns it off I was like "Yes, go back to her! Go!" but then he leaves. I loved them! You can see the raw hurt in Willow while her first love is walking out of her life.
I remember watching this and crying my ass off..... I also remember willing Oz to get out of the van , say he was sorry and beg her to forgive him, and when that didn't happen and he drove off, I remember swearing to hate his ass from here to eternity...lol...... A great tv show can provoke strong emotions
He showed he loved her by leaving. He couldn't control the werewolf and he was not going to put her at risk. When he stopped the ignition it was for selfish reasons. When he turned it back on it was for her.
He was doing this for her safety as he couldn't control the wolf side of him as it was becoming more dominant. He had to make a sacrifice to do the right thing to protect her.
never have I have seen a more perfect couple. no matter when or where I see this, I cant prevent tears from falling out of my eyes. Both of them, S-Class actors.
The metaphor of the werewolf is that of all men who have a double life. A bright side and a dark side. Both are real .. both are true Oz, feeling unable to eliminate the wolf, decides to leave and not harm his beloved Willow. What a tragedy
Has anyone ever wondered how Dark Willow would have reacted to Oz? I kept waiting for him to show up back when that season first aired and I was so disappointed - though the Xander thing at the end was beautiful.
When this first aired, I think I cried for about 20 minutes after the show. I was in ruins. One of the most emotional scenes I had ever experienced watching a tv show.
I hate Oz didn't get back with Willow. There was nothing wrong with Tara, but I just never cared for their relationship. Not bad, but doesn't interest me. Oz & Willow something was just adorably dorky about them. Then again, if he stayed with Willow, he would've been the one Warren killed -according to Whedon.
Tara always felt like that one person that just hangs around and never really contributes but just wants to be around and part of the group. I never really felt much chemistry between her and Willow, Oz and Willow had it in spades.
How would warren kill him? Think on that the way it happened, and also the forced Kennedy thing in the last season?? Oz might have died heroically if the actor didn't leave the show but to die via Warren in the end of the second to last season would be bad writing.
I loved willow too she's really cool person can talk to and just have her around you and loved too but at the same times can really go wrong can't help the fact that not knowing you really are you just have to it for your self
I never leave her I'm afraid of losing her 💔 my friend and girlfriend 💔 very sad to let go the ones who love you even more it will be the best thing to not let go of that loved
My sadness is real and you can't help let it go away from me and her I nearly crying in front of her I'm always OK always have and it's hits you when you looking at girl you love ❤️ protect you and take care of you ❤️ you very much want it very much deeply inside the soul
@@WhosTheMorley I call bs. If he was so concerned and that's all it was why not tell the gang about her like willow said, especially after she criticized him for locking himself up to protect others? Why lie to buffy when she flat out asked him if he knew about another werewolf in the area? I'll tell you why, because A he wanted her, and B he was covering his ass from when they hooked up the first time.
@@prettypoppin_552 well it's the same as why didn't Buffy tell the gang straight up that Angel was back from hell? Because she wanted him to herself and kept him as a dirty secret so they wouldn't harm him and also criticise her. Which happened because Xander caught them kissing and Buffy denied any physical contact. Which was a massive lie. In this situation Oz wasn't sure what he wanted to do. Because it was never about him. This is the first time that he wasn't the 7th wheel helping Buffy. He was trying to be a good person and he is also young and naive. Buffy does this yet again when Buffy gets with Riley later on in Season 4. They all have terrible motives to their decisions.
I learn how to loved I learn how to not let it go and be with her for sadness and tears 💔 broken up and down to but her heart is still there for her and me to but at the same time she still 💔 you for ever
Amanda Gliptis It wasn't about their relationship though. Oz was becoming some sort of a wild animal more and more. Fearing he'd endup hurting people, especially Willow, he left.
star man Hey, stop. Not every woman is like that and in fact some men are like that too. Both men and women can be heartless, so stop hating on women and calling them names, when both men and women are the same sometimes.
I still think Willow is Bisexual. I think they made her completely gay because at the time people could barely understand homosexuality let alone bisexuality. Her relationships with Oz and Xander seemed genuine. I don't like how they now meant nothing at all to her. I still think Xander and Willow is the OTP lmao
MrWafflePrince oh yeah Willow is bi through and through. You're right about perception playing a part - Willow and Tara's relationship was the first female same-sex kiss and first on-screen female same-sex sex scene. The show was breaking new ground, against network pressure no doubt. I think Whedon wanted to be progressive while also trying to not push against the network too much.
Willow says that she's gay and not into men. She says it several times. It doesn't matter what you think she is or should be cuz you're not a writer on the show
Morgan Colon At the time. How she felt about guys was stronger in earlier seasons and just changed over time. Sexuality can be pretty fluid remember. She might feel the need to say she's gay because she feels more for women later on than men could ever compare to. Doesn't erase the love she felt for Oz and Xander though. Plus what they're sayin ^ also a conscious choice by writers so it could pass network approval
She could be bisexual, but the fact that she liked boys, before knowing she liked girls, doesn't mean she still likes boys. And the fact that she doesn't like boys anymore, doesn't make her earlier relationships less meaningful. And this things can happen like that, in fact, it happened to me, I'm gay and that doesn't mean that my ex-boyfriends weren't important in my life. They were the first, and when you are young and have never loved before it's easy to have a lot of feelings for someone, and you had it even though you realise later that what your heart needs is another thing.
Took me this long to see similarities between Oz and Spike. Oz leaves Willow and attempts to get rid of the wolf inside him. Spike leaves Buffy and attempts to get rid of the demon inside him. Or does he attempt to get his soul back? Nothing in this universe makes complete sense. Nevertheless, I wonder if the parallel is intentional.
Know that she loves me and never wanted this to happen to me but love her very much ❤️ and I can't let go of my heart is to stronger and I let go much of my life is going through tuff times in life she gets to me and her 🫂 me and her loved is powerful 💓 and she want me to get it back 💔
But I hated the fact this scene made me cry so much I just finished this episode when I saw the scene when he cheated on her when willow started crying I started crying and this scene to and when willow said “oz do you love me” and Oz said “my whole life I didn’t love anything else” that was super sad and when he left
Still done understand how willow wasn’t bisexual and instead just gay, like come on, they just decided let’s forget the fact that she loved oz and went through a whole gawd damn depression after he left and the fact that she was head over heels in love with Xander before this and had a crush on Giles.
Agreed. I didn’t like that decision at all. Willow was clearly deeply in love with Oz and before that she’d been unhappily in love with Xander for ages. I get that you can mistake strong feelings of friendship for romance but I can’t imagine any lesbian feeling that comfortable being in an intimate relationship with a man for what could it be? Nearly 2 years. I didn’t mind her getting a female love-interest later on in the series but I hate that they tried to pass off her entire history with Oz as some temporary confusion.
This was quite honestly the last good season of the series,hate the direction they took after this especially inserting buffys sister dawn in the family out of nowhere which begs the question where was she In the first 4 seasons
Okay: to get to New Orleans from California you need to get through Arizona, which has a Nazi paedophile hell (Twilight in the Library) and Texas which has the opposite hell. Everyone in Texas is scared of School Shooters and it's so hot. You never knew a place where so many people were frightened of clocktowers. Next is Louisian which is a storming hell. It's got a sweet individuality of culture but basically it's almost as haunted as Roma.
I did have a bad dream about Buffy once. In my dream the Sunny Dale football team were playing away in Los Angeles and it turned out the stadium was a sacrifice coliseum and the losing team were bled to a demon of money and gambling, and their hell is they get trapped in the TV on the fire level and enslaved only to say the script forever and ever
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I had a moment like this after I broke up with my ex hearing her cry in the next room. It broke my heart but sometimes it has to be like that. Sometimes love just isn’t enough
It is if you truly love someone. Love never ends. Your infatuation ends. Love is not passion. It’s respect and it’s a choice to stay. Love is not a feeling. You got some growing up to do.
@@BubblyskystardustThe love never ended. I wanted us to leave her abusive mother and live on our own, but she kept pulling us back. I grew up in an even worse situation but at least then I could fight back: this wasn't my mom, and my ex would stay silent no matter what her mom said and did, so fighting would have labeled me as a troublemaker in her family; I didn't want the label and I didn't want to fight. I had spent my whole life fighting. I just wanted her to stand up for herself along with me so that we could be free, but she was scared and would keep saying I was leaving because I was unsatisfied with her the same way her mom was. I tried a hundred times and different ways to explain that it wasn't that and what I needed but she was scared and couldn't receive it. I tried keeping my head down and my mouth shut instead, but it felt more and more like living in a tomb and I really thought I was going to lose something of myself that I'd never get back, or worse. To this day, I still love her. 6 years later and my life has turned around 180*. I don't think it would have if I had stayed. For me at the time, growing up WAS leaving. But who knows...and I don't ask "what if" anymore.
@@k.upward i am sorry for you but you are brave enough to have made that choice. You made the choice that was right for you to stop living in misery. She wasn’t ready to grow up and she was scared of Being happy. I hope for you that you have found someone who makes you happy and supports your choices. Thank you for taking the time to answer me. I wish you all the love.
InvaderTif13 it’s a different kind of love. It’s like when Buffy says she will never love anything in this world more than angel. It’s a deeper kind of love.
I loved Buffy's relationships, but Willow's relationships came off as more interesting. Especially her relationship with Tara. Although, Buffy did top Willow in season seven. I find her relationship with Spike more interesting than Willow's relationship with Kennedy. I did like Kennedy, but nowhere near as much as Oz and Tara. I think her character could have been written far better than what they wrote.
Seth Green had to leave the show, so Oz was written out. I think Xander was gonna end up being the gay character. Whedon said he was undecided on if it'd be Xander or Willow. And when Seth Green had to leave, then he went with Willow and brought in Tara. If Seth stayed, their story would've gone longer, and the Oz x Willow x Veruca triangle would've lasted most of this season.
VC26 Good point dude.It just that Oz was my favorite character not the part where he cheated on Willow but the whole part of him being a cool boyfriend to Willow.
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Now know how it feels when you're lonely and you wish we had lost your love ❤️ her smile and hands and hair I smelled it kiss 🫂 I have to deal with it all the time I giver anything she wanted more love hold her hands and then she love me very much deeply inside me
