I disagree with one of Corey's observations. I think Ruth is the heart and soul of the show. She can be a prick but she constantly puts others before herself and really just wanted enough money to get her and her brothers out. The end of season 4 really put on display how tragic of a character she is.
I always think of that moment when she was lying in the hospital bed and asked Marty to keep his promise to her and her feeling betrayed when Marty decided not to avenge her.
Ruth is Jessie. She keeps going along with everything because its all she knows and it gets her money. But she is the only one in power that actually has moments of kindness even if it doesn’t benefit her. But in the end she’s the only one that truly looses everything and everyone. Just like Jessie
The Skylar hate was definitely unwarranted in hindsight. I think the first time watching the series you tend to stay rooting for Walter and justify his actions long after they stop being justifiable, just because he’s our protagonist and you’re conditioned to root for him. But watching the show again and knowing where it goes…yea, you see it way sooner. Skylar kinda got put thru the ringer
Ozarks got me in the 1st episode.. . . where Marty was walking toward the building .. . then PLOP!!! Then he has to turn around and go back to his car . . .. I was so shocked. . . I laughed . .. I thought WTF . .. been here for it since.
I think Ozark is genius writing and exceptional acting from EVERYBODY! I hate they split the parts but I think we need more seasons especially for the political games
Not everybody in Ozark has genius writting Charlotte character in the whole show was pretty much boring and nothing to do much with the character and Jonah in season 4 was pretty much annoying smart brat while they killed Del their own best intimidating villian too early in favor for Snell’s but everything else has a great characters
Top 5? It’s the best Netflix show period. Don’t come at me with Stranger Things, Orange is the New Black, Squid Game, etc. The writing, performances, and characters are better in Ozark.
I liked Charlotte. I feel like she’s the realistic representation in the show. She don’t care bout none of the illegal stuff, she just wants to make it back to Chicago alive so she can hang with her friends 😂. She did 1 illegal thing the whole show and used the money for a van and weed 💀. I’m sure most of the viewing audience could relate to her
Charlotte is the most boring and useless character in the show i feel like if you completely remove her character nothing will change in the show atlist despite Jonah being annoying in season 4 he has his own decision and has to do more with his character.All charlotte does with the whole show was a yes girl to her mom
@@sakuragi1062 yea that’s true, but i think it’s intentional for balance. Everyone else is a psychopathic killer committing major felonies on the daily. Charlotte doesn’t really care about the activities, shes just over it. She never wanted to move in the first place and from the day they moved she never really cared bout any of the illegal business and just wanted to go back to Chicago. She even sued to get out the family to go back at one point. But now she’s just accepted it and is just like “Idc what happens, i just hope we live, and you finish your stupid mission so this can be over so I can go to Chicago and smoke a bowl with my friends without worrying about dying” Which is the attitude I think majority of the audience would have in this situation.
I felt bad for binge watching this show this season. Had no idea they were breaking it up into sections. Waiting for the next season already feels painful 😫
I got sucked into a binge watch. I thought they were releasing one episode at a time, then it went to "next episode" at teh end, and I thought bonus! By ep 4, I was like "I guess I'm watching all of them.
Nahh Corey is wrong here in my opinion. Ozarks soul and heart lies in the younger characters. Ruth, Wyatt, Jonah and Charlotte are victims of circumstance. To some extent Marty is also in that camp.
Why did he throw Jonah under the bus? Jonah was a little boy when this started and he's been quiet the whole time. And, yes, he's a teenage boy! He's angry, he's emotional, he's going through it! He's seen people murdered, was encouraged to shoot someone by his own mother (he didn't do it) and he knows they put another family member in a position to be killed. He's got every right to lash out!
BB has as much suspense, tension, drama, and storytelling as OZK, but BB has laughs, and lots of them, and somehow can afford to give you that without losing anything on the serious side. For me that makes it a better show.
I think this has just as much dark humor as BB. Just like the scene he showed about the 20-25% discount on the coffin. But we could be here all day with the hilarious lines in Ozark. Sue and everything around her was classic and Ruth has great lines always.
I hate when people use the “is it better than Breaking Bad” argument. Just let it be good on its own merits. Yes, Goodfellas isn’t as good as The Godfather 🙄 to many. It’s still good on its own.
Goodfellas is based on a true story. In fact I unknowingly worked for the crime family is based on. They own a bar in Tampa by busch gardens. In the movie they come here to kill somone at Lowry park zoo (also a real place close by) but it apparently actually occured in the package store in the bar I used to work at. It's so weird. 😋 🧡🦇
Just finished watching through Breaking Bad two days ago, then immediately watched El Camino after. Afterall these years still an extremely solid show!
There's alot of things I like about Ozarks in comparison to Breaking Bad, but BB will always have the better, more intense tone. Always at 11, white knuckle suspense. Ozarks feels pretty droopy and sad most of the time just on color scheme alone.
Absolutely. It has also occurred to me that each show feels like their respective drug. BB tweaks in the corner while gritting its teeth while Ozarks is splayed out on the couch with its eyes rolling to the back of its head.
I think we need to stop comparing BB to Ozark. I love both shows but they are vastly different. BB is about a man who develops into a villain. Marty is just someone in over his head and is constant fear of his life. He may not be a good guy but he's definitely not a villain. Ozark is also tonally different. It's much bleaker and stressful. There only similarity is that it involves the drug business. Other than that, I think both shows are equally great in their own ways.
Ozark is way more immersive than Breaking Bad in my opinion. It keeps you on the edge of your seat way more, where Breaking Bad was a rather fun ride with often cartoony villains (entertaining nonetheless). Ozark is the best fast-paced crime/thriller series I’ve seen.
I feel that the most likeable and relatable person is Marty. His idiot friend convinced him to work with the cartel, his idiot friend tried to cheat the cartel and lost his life over it, and Marty is trying to make the best out of the bad situation. and Unlike Heisenberg, he never goes into the darkness completely. He's just trying to keep his head above water.
Ozark has great elements, but lacks consistency and asks me to suspend reality more than i should. Ruth and Marty are worth the price of admission. The villains after Del Rio have been caricatures, and fk their kids.
@@Shadowman4710 disagree. Shes good, but Lady Macbeth is a high bar. She is 2 notes. Wendy in season 1 that managed to become Wendy the rest of the seasons.
What Ozark has going for it is that even though their characters are despicable, Jason Bateman and Laura Linney are already likable actors so you kinda root for them.
Ozarks is definitely had similarities with Breaking Bad but the family dynamic in the Ozarks is alot more engrossing and immersive. Ozarks and Breaking bad are both tigers on the Netflix Mountain. Breaking bad characters are irreplaceable and iconic. I can't compare them too much I love em both too much.
What the...?! I'm only on episode 6; but Rurh is an absolutely terrible person. She's a manipulative, conniving, selfish, violent bully. She wanted to actually murder Marty when they first met. She does nothing but rob any & everybody she can. From her job at the Blue Cat, she calls her redneck crew & has them strip families houses of all their valuables while they're out at dinner. Almost every character in this show is an overly aggressive, unlikable moron - except Tuck. I don't understand why it's being so highly praised.
I think Jonahs arc makes sense although can be frustrating to understand his logic sometimes. But it makes sense the way he behaves when looking at what he has experienced and continues to experience with those around who behave in a much worse manner. So for him I think there is no black and white anymore. But he sees everything as grey because there really is no trust in anyone to help keep him safe other than himself. Not even his family.
Go back and rewatch. Shes really not more interesting than Skylar. Sky is a character that clearly loves what she has, shes our moral consciousness foretelling us whats to come. In the end, everything Walt works for crumbles and falls, everything. The man destroys everything he loves
@@singingchef23 And I believe Wendy is serving the same purpose. When her ambitious plans are going well, the overall plot goes well. When her ventures start to unravel, the overall plot starts to get thick. We can be certain that she's going to fail in the end, and I think they are going to end up getting away broke and exactly where they started off at.
One of my favorite shows ever...every little side character was so well written and had great dialogue...and the acting...the ACTING from the supporting cast was so out of this world...think characters like Dewey Crowe and Dickie Bennett...fantastic!
Ozark got a little darker faster in my opinion while I do like breaking bad better it is good seeing Jason Bateman mixing his funny personality with a mix of bad ass. Still a good watch
I think ozark truly dives into the psychological aspect of normal people and what we are truly capable of if driven to the edge to protect ourselves or family. And how one decision that seems easy and small at the time can snowball into a 1000 more decisions you never thought you would have to make and cause waves throughout everyone around you. Marty truly hates what he’s doing and the issues it’s caused he’s compartmentalized everything when all he wants to return to is the time before all of this with him on the trampoline with his kids and working in the garden as seen in the flashback. Also as evil as Wendy seems I don’t think her brother is gone we will find out in part 2 though.
Martin intro, you sound like my hubby he say all the time can’t trust lol 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. Love Ozark. Discover it during the pandemic lockdown. Jason Batman and Laura Linney simply incredible and so is the rest of the cast. The writing omg chefs kiss.
The character Darlene Snell , is batshit crazy!!!😂😂 like sleep with one eye open crazy …. Damn near scared of the actress bc she played crazy too damn good.
I respectfully disagree with Korey. I cared way more about Ruth and Ben than anyone on Breaking Bad. Actually the only character I was sad to see go on BB was Gus because he was so ruthless but charismatic.
Great idea for talking about Ozark. I would love to hear a similar comparison/contrast between Lost and Yellowjackets, which also have very similar initial premises, but by the end of the latter's first season, seems to be developing in a very distinct fashion from Lost.
I finished season 1 & 2 in one go and I just never got updated that season 3 and 4 was here already. Probably gonna binge it later. Nice review as always
Before I watched the first season of Ozark a few years back, I always knew it was a poor man's version of Breaking Bad. I've kept my expectations low and thus been thoroughly entertained.
I will say that one of the show's misses is transforming Bateman's character more clearly. Marty doesn't really change from Season 1. It's definitely not as pronounced as Walter White being meek and self-conscious to confident, courageous, sociopathic. Wendy has had a very pronounced change. She's much more ruthless on the outside, that it makes me wish Marty was more ruthless on the inside. If Wendy scares us with her calculated speeches and emotional responses, then Marty should be able to make cold decisions quickly, but only as necessary.
I love this episode!! So many great points about ozark and it’s genius. I do have to disagree on your comment at 12:42 when you say Ozark has no soul/heart. I think at the very core of Ozark we still have a family that (despite their erratic and villainous behavior) loves each other. It’s all about family. Between the Bryce’s, the langmores, the Snells, even the Navarros. At the end of it, it’s family or death and THAT is the where the soul lies. SPOILER ALERT: I know this was filmed before the final season released but I have to think of the first scene in the final episode where Ruth is reminiscing on all her dead relatives and the raw emotion behind the scene is enough to make anyone tear up. Very heartbreaking. And REAL.
I think this season, and previous seasons, Wyatt (Ruth's cousin) is a redeemable character. Not an upstanding character, but always trying to do the right thing....even though he messed up getting with a heroine dealer that's 3 times his age.
Darlene is my favorite villain. I was so bored with the cartel guy in Season 1, so when she blew him away I was like "Woah! Did that shit just happen?" I hyped for the rest of the night. Still one of my favorite moments in the series.
I agree totally. The tone and the direction of Ozark I feel is in it's own league of the crime/drama genre. The whole time of watching Ozark since first release, I never have had the thought of comparing it to any other show. Let alone BB. There's no need.
You can’t really compare them. Honestly, I like Ozark more, it has grown on me a lot, and it’s a very compelling narrative. BB was great due to it’s comedy aspects and wide variety of characters. In terms of a fast-paced crime thriller that keeps you on the edge of your seat, Ozark really outperforms BB.
I'm still subscribed but just so you know I watched this channel a lot in 2020 but this is the first time you've been in my recommended since around Last January
Ruth, Ruth, Ruth, Ruth, Ruth is the heart and emotional core of the show because she operates from a base of family while Wendy and Marty are in survival mode. OT Greg from Succession is no innocent.
I couldn't get into Breaking Bad season 1, it felt like a chore. Unlike Ozark, it got me within the first episode. I can't compare* both of these shows.
BB 1 is a chore??? You're nuts. It's not as great as BB seasons 3-5, but is better than 2 and all five seasons of BB are still compelling and intense watches.
@@andrewcutler1380 my friend said the same shit about season 1 I don't get it...they start dropping bodies in the first episode..and the season is only like 6 episodes
@@tapset Everyone loved Walter White because he would always outsmart everyone. Also in the end doesn't Jesse and Walter's family get the money to start fresh. The point a Show about drugs should make. Is that crime doesn't pay and it's not worth getting in the drugs business
@@Gavin48 Jesse doesn't have a family at the end. Everyone he cared about was killed and his parents don't associate with him. They made a ton of money but were under constant threat of death. Definitely not glorifying it
@@tapset But they always won. Jesse didn't die and now has freedom to start a new path. At least in Ozark they have lost lovers, Siblings and they are under threat at every moment. Also the villains in Ozark are more scary and cold. In Breaking Bad they were kinda cartoony
To say that Jonah is a “b” is a bit harsh. Jonah isn’t responsible for the situation HIS PARENTS put him in. And, he’s specifically MAD at the fact that his mother had his uncle (who he loved dearly) killed. That’s the issue. He isn’t mad about the crime. In season 2 and 3, Jonah was doing well to work with the situation his family was in. His anger is specifically with his mom and the fact that she broke his heart in having his uncle killed. That’s his issue.
The only partv of this series that I struggle with is the totally unbelievably ridiculous role of the FOURTEEN YEAR-OLD son who does whatever he wants, talks to his parents however he wants, runs a money laundering scheme while the parents argue about how tocontrol him. That role should have been written with the character being at least 18 years old. If my 14 year-old acted even 5% like the son in Ozark I would be in prison for beating has ass within inches of his life.
Breaking bad was better because it was in a age that we waited a few days for the next episode and a few episodes where filler episodes made it longer. and honestly made it more special the experience.... Ozark you can finish the whole season in a day.
The underlying theme on ozark is how people treat kids young kids as children/dumb kids. Ruth was mad because they kepted treating her as kid and the son was always treated as kid and the brother was always treated as kid.
When people die in this show, it's usually because they do stupid stuff. They are always usually warned, before it happens. If someone tells you, "hey man, don't do that or stop, because those are some dangerous people," they do it anyway. It's almost laughable because I be yelling at the TV "he told you to stop dammit!"
Im still on season 2 , but compared to breaking bad , I liked BB season 1 better. Though i stopped BB after season 3 as it got meh . I think Jason Bateman and family are more likeable , than Walter white and annoying family.
Slight similarities, but Ozark isn’t anywhere near as good as Breaking Bad. I’ll say this…both wives are easy to hate. Skylar isn’t evil like Wendy, but they are both hate-able.
No where near absolutely Breaking Bad has alot more iconic characters in it Ozark dont have a character like Todd,Saul Goodman,Lyndia,Hector Salamanca,Mike or comedic character like Badger Ozark doesn’t even have a complex intimidating villian like Gus Fring they got Del but they killed the character way too early and they got a FBI character like Hank in BB but still no where near in the level of Hank.But I think Ozark did a great job on its own right its not just comparable to what Breaking Bad achieve
I think Wendy was the more annoying character than Jonah or Ruth in season 4. Darlene may be crazy, but she’s not gonna kill Jonah. He takes care of Zeke. Marty showing the better parenting style here while Wendy is just forcing him to comply. She was just in denial the whole season with Jonah and Ben.
I'm confused at how people are just now noticing these flaws with the show. There have been ridiculous plotlines, character choices, and meh writing since S1 up to S4 pt1. IE: 1)Gary's body being randomly dropped into the city streets. Marty then does a about face that was freaking hilarious,but I could tell they intended it to be shocking. Even the two extras in the back just kept going as though nothing happened. 2)Marty demanding the 7 or 8 million, no way he wouldve made it out of that bank, I'm suprised he was able to demand it over the phone without police presence. 3)Bateman/Marty pitch to stop Del from killing him, didn't seem plausible at all. All the stammering and clear thought loading throughout, must've on the direction, cause that was just plot armor to the fullest. Overall the show is decent,but there is way too many things in every season leaves me scratching my head. I'll finish when pt2 is released,but I can't see myself recommending it to many people
They actually had help from the FBI when making the show so when the FBI shows up in the show some of those people are actually agents. Just a little insight.
I think that Ozark not having any heart or soul in comparison to Breaking Bad is what I like about it. A massive tragedy with no real silver linings, but one or two small but sweet moments.
All I could think like six episodes and was if Wendy lives through the end of this I'm actually going to be upset. She's been contemplating leaving her husband for a cartel boss for over a whole season she at one point tried to set her own son up to get caught by the FBI for money laundering. Not to mention running around lying about the brother she had killed calling him a drug addict
@@emartinez7733 Uhhh I wouldn't say that all all. The season we just had a decent amount of flaws. We gotta remember you are comparing that show to one of the greatest crime dramas of all time. I find comparing BB and ozarks comparison insane as well.
I disagree on this show not having any heart or soul. I thought heart and soul was in regards to the passion through the acting, but you guys use a different definition. Regarding that definition, Marty has not killed anyone out of cold blood (he only killed the pastor cause he was gonna kill Wendy) or ordered anyone to be killed the entire show. He’s the one actually trying to hold on to some morality he has left. He doesn’t even have that big of a problem with Darlene. They may not like each other, but there not after each other’s heads. He may know he’s the smartest in the room, but for the most part, he’s the nonchalant one. He just knows that his way more time than not is the best way. He’s the one that talks sense to all the other characters in the show. He rarely acts off emotion
Let me preface this with saying that Ozark and Breaking Bad is my shit!!! Yet, I hate to be that guy and mention this, but I guess I'm gonna have to be that guy. I'm just surprised you two brothas don't talk about Power or Snowfall? Or The Chi? They're just as good.
