Kitty is amazing in this scene for two reasons: 1) Being so accepting and loving towards Ozzie when he needed it most and 2)Warning him about the very real dangers of getting mixed up with Canadians
If/when they get a season 2 I want a scene with Red dealing with this. Like Ozzy mentions some other kids have been making fun of him for being gay, which Red ignores because "it'll toughen you up". Not being mean about it, but basically telling him to handle it on his own. But when Ozzy comes back with a black eye, Red realizes they beat him up for being gay. Red finds the kids and does his old man scary "I will shove my foot up your ass" speech and scares the ever loving fuck out of the bullies. Something to show Red can be just as a supportive and protective as Kitty when push comes to shove.
@@Lippy802 Yea he does care if you remember watching that episode he was shocked to find out that his neighbors are gay so much so he had to tell Bob all about it.
Even in That 70s show, the characters showed compassion towards the LGBTQ+ as well, especially with Red, the very strict father, being okay with gay neighbors.
You know, I wasn’t crazy about Ozzie’s character in the beginning, but rewatching the show makes me appreciate him all the more. But I also wanna see Red find out because I think his reaction would be the most heartwarming
I dont think Red would have much problem with it. He didnt have a problem with his neighbors being gay, he had a problem with them being Vikings fans lol
@@Xgendude14 no I don’t think anyone would doubt that he wouldn’t have a problem with it which is why they wanna see it lol His sort of gruff old school type way of showing affection is oddly endearing
(When Red finds out) 'Just so ya know kid, I'll still treat you the same way I treat all the others. You're not getting any special treatment from me, so you might as well get back to your fellow dumbasses downstairs!'
This is like a soft version of Red with the gay neighbors lol. We didn't give a shit if they were gay or not but got mad when he found out they were Vikings fans lmao
Ozzie's plan isn't half bad. I didn't come out to my parents until I got comfortable using my chosen name in public. I'd tell the baristas my chosen name and, since they didn't know me, I got to hear someone call me by that name without any awkwardness and it felt amazing! And after I came out of the closet, I had a thirty minute conversation with my aunt on the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity.
You know my brother was scared to come out in the early 2000s. Me and my brother knew for a very long time so it wasn't a surprise for us. But it was definitely difficult for our parents to accept!
Damn that sucks I'm sorry to hear that as a parent my self you should always love and accept your child for who they are no matter what as long as they aren't hurting anyone or them selves.. if my daughter came out and said dad I'm gay this is my GF I would honestly tell her what ?!? You're what, gay ?!? This is some F'ing BS ! ! ! Why didn't you tell me and introduce me sooner !? !?! Now get over here and give me a hug 🤗 IDC who you love as long as they treat you the way I do and that's like a TRUE PRINCESS ! ! ! If they do then IDC at all ! ! ! Also I love you with ever fiber of my being MY baby ! ! ! I hope 🤞 im the first one you told LOLZ ... That's how I would be with my daughter because again it's our duty to love and cherish our children NO MATTER WHAT ! ! !
wouldve been cool too to come out to both red n kitty i would want to see reds reaction cuz ik he’ll tell ozzie if anyone made fun of him red will kick their ass lol
it's obvious why they made ozzie gay but he's funny as hell and i don't really have a problem with it so long as they don't stuff it down our throats since it's the 90s not EVERYONE a was ok with it back then so i think yknow how red and jackie always made fun of fez for being foreign red and nik could be uncomfortable with ozzie's sexuality i think it would work if you watch the show nik and ozzie don't have that much interactions and red she just be weird to the hole situation
Ozzie is without a doubt one of the most annoying and dull characters, with his only personality trait being that he's gay and that's it. At least the stuff in That 70's Show with Joseph Gordon Levitt wasn't forced the way Ozzie is in this show. It goes to show that some modern stuff can be great while others have to force an agenda rather than letting something flow naturally.
Omg this so bad .. No one acted like this in the 90's Nor was it this diverse in small towns. The only way you'd have this diverse amout of friends is if you lived in a big city like New York and even then it's wasn't this diverse
I thought so before the show came out, but you have to keep in mind that these are the misfits of Point Place which back then meant gay, non-white, or white and accepting of people who are different.
@Andrew Bjork dude were talking a gay Asian , 2 mixed black girls at some small town in Wisconsin in the 90s It was extremely rare to see biracial kids in the 90s I'm from small town Illinois I'm 38. All my friends were very excepting of whoever wanted to be friends but the most luck we had was 1 black kid and a Hispanic.
You think that young people in the 70s were as liberal as the ones in That 70s Show? There's a reason the main audience of that show isn't boomers in their sixties.
From the clips I've seen, it feels like the writing for him was off. To be fair, the writing isn't there for all the new cast but with Ozzie, it especially feels like he was written to be a Disney/Nickelodeon character.
I think age has a big thing to do with it too. The OG cast were older and playing teenagers. This is actual teens playing teens. So it seems more like a Disney show. The age these kids are at they would have been in a Disney show. Not on a sitcom about a misfit group of friends.
No crying but it worked for Kitty's character as she was usually the most accepting when it came to the parent characters Like it's believable that she would support it.
@@shanemorton773He just said the character is unnecessary. Didn't say he doesn't like the character because he is gay. I don't think the Ozzie is necessary here either. Because it's so unnatural to have an Asian in that town back then. It's obviously looks like forced case to show the generations nowadays. Which didn't have to. It is 90s background show not in 2010s NY background story. And I don't like the American directors have this idea that Asians has to look like that one. To show ppl "Yeah! That's right I put an Asian one. I'm open minded I give chances to everyone" when he actually thinks all Asian has to look what he imagined. This is so disgusting.
@@shanemorton773 Not that. It’s Hollywood in general making us the same stereotypical joke again. Most Asian guys in the 90s were thugs, b-boys, stoner skaters, or bookworms (in California at least lol) It’s hilarious how outdated it is yet tries to seem progressive
As a gay person who grew up in the 90s... I can tell you... This is the most unrealistic portrayal of a gay character in this time period! Especially in Wisconsin! We weren't that easily accepted... it was a very scary time. Even the nicest person ever would still be weirded out by someone coming out. I came out in 2000 after hiding it through high school after incredible fear. Even in 2000...I lost friends and family... people I worked with. I don't like the Ozzie Character as they are re writing history and down playing how it actually was...because it's too hard for people to understand that... us Gay people were accepted as much as we are today.
See this is true, the attitudes of 1990s was not all that acceptiing at all towards gay men. You can see remnants of this on shows like Jerry Springer, The Jenny Jones Show, Ricki Lake, and many other talk shows of the late 80s to the early-late 90s. I have yet to watch the show but I've seen clip compilations of this Ozzie character and I wasn't impressed with what I saw and he sounds like an obnoxious character but I will say that I don't think it's wrong to feature a gay character in a period-themed show. In the case of a 90s show, if they keep in mind the attitudes of what it was like back then and have issues like that in the show be a theme, that is more than fair.
@@12inter88 Or just not being super open about it. I'm a gay man who came out when I was 14 and this was back in 2006. I never tried to pretend to be straight by lying about myself that I was into girls when I knew I wasn't. I just more or less kept it to myself and the few people I trusted. I think Ozzie only being open about it to his friend group would definitely work, especially if he came out to just Leia and Gwen first before Jay and Nate and with the latter two, they would struggle trying to accept Ozzie because of the homophobia that was a thing in the 90s (Like them thinking if they're around Ozzie, he would try to hit on them or that he would turn them gay. You know the usual homophobic attitudes that were present during that time)
Sorry but speaking as an LGBT person. I really hated this character. He was embarrassing to the LGBTQ community. No one I know acts like this gay or strait. Even Jack on Will & Grace wasn't as bad as this Character and Jack was totally annoying. They really should have rewrote, and recasted this Character as he just made the show stupid, and insulted the LGBTQ community.
Age doesn't matter when it comes to that. I came out (to my friends) as gay when I was 14 and I had known I was gay since I was 11. Just saying, some of gays and lesbians learned of our sexuality when we were kids.
I was excited for the show because We were finally gonna get some Asian representation... from the 90’s .. Then they made him gay.. sigh. Nothing against gay people but I just wish we could get some proper representation of all types. Make another little mermaid movie and make her a trans little Mexican boy.
Ozzie is just insanely annoying. Overacting and ruins every scene he has a major part in. Other than that this show is great. Throw Ozzie off the water tower to never be seen again.
I am not fully convinced by the "tell any stranger that I am gay". I was raised in the 80-90 and no one was saying it loud...It is too much like 2000 iiiish. Writers didn't consider that fact I am guessing while writing the show.
Why do they have to add straight people in everything? Exactly. Because it’s normal. And so is being gay. Only difference is some people still aren’t comfortable with gays, and that sounds like a personal problem.🤷♂️
@@Pussfart424 I don't mind it when they actually has personality, like captain Holt is my all time favourite BC he is well written and we'll performed character, but when your entire character is just a punchline of "I'm gay" it'll get old real quick, look at fez, first glance I thought he would be just a punchline, but they actually gave him interesting persona, he is naive, honest, happy go lucky, funny and well 'horny'.
@Apud But being gay is not his entire personality. He's also sarcastic, loves to have a good time, is closed off to his emotions, and (spoilers for the finale) is super attached to his friends. This episode dealt with this aspect of his character because he's a young boy in middle America in the 1990s. They addressed it in a funny and sincere fashion. I really enjoyed it.
@Gerson Diaz you obviously didn't grow up in the 90s Come out as gay was rare and wasn't a badge of honor people especially kids kept it to themselves. And having an Asian gay friend was extremely rare you'd have better luck winning the lottery time.
I have no words to describe how it makes me feel to see how Netflix has utterly destroyed an iconic TV show. Nothing in this show is anywhere close to how it was in the 90s
@@smokedoutpositivesquad1738well for one, you can tell the kids are Gen Z kids - just in 90’s clothes. They should have chosen older actors to play teenagers - not actual teens to play teenagers. Makes it seem too Disney-channel ish. If you want to make a 90’s TV show, you can’t do it with writers or cast members or any undertones of today’s Hollywood woke-ness. It’s just the whole vibe really. Having Zimas and old computer jokes in there doesn’t make it 90’s. Sure it’s nostalgic for those of us who remember waiting 10 minutes for a website to load up (for those of us who even had it back then). But the overall feel of it is “gen Z kids in 90’s clothes making 90’s jokes” vibes. Watch an actual 90’s sitcom and you’ll see the difference. The 90’s were more about the vibe than clothes or anything else. Can’t have lines being read that fit today’s wokeness all while trying to be 90’s. Or today’s diversity quotas while trying to be 90’s. While some people may tell you that people were less accepting, IMO people were more accepting because they just didn’t care. Sister Sister was a huge sitcom along with Fresh Prince and it wasn’t just from black people watching it. Yeah, people were still afraid of coming out - but people really didn’t care. There had been countless “gay” subjects and characters on TV by then. But it fit and it wasn’t all preachy. People actually have LESS tolerance these days for it because of all the wokeness and it being shoved in our faces. Take this for example. Brandy starred in a Cinderella movie and it did GREAT. Nobody cared about her skin color. Why? For one, they weren’t trying to race swap a character (since it was an original Cindy story and not a cartoon live action remake). And two. Because nobody gave a shit. It was us 90’s kids and teens who are now the woke millennials. And although I ain’t the woke part of that, it’s my fellow millennials that kind of kicked the whole woke train off with PC culture back during the Obama days. We didn’t care as 90’s kids and teens who was gay and who wasn’t gay back then.
@@jg2722 in the 90s no one knew and it wasnt a thing i had 100s of friends and not one was gay even today none of them came out they need to stop trying to rewrite history
I’m a little uncomfortable with how young these kids are in real life and in the show. The show has them doing drugs, talking about sex and sexuality and I think they should’ve made them a bit older and hired an older cast.
Ozzie saying I'm gay isn't even funny it's completely stupid the audience isn't even laughing somebody pushed a button the oh I'm gay is getting to be irrelevant
This show is great, just take out all the new actors, gay asian, black female hyde, asian jackie, dumber kelso & that other kid and leave kitty and Red and original crew and leia
gay people should be like this old school stuff not like those very angry yelling cancelling gay today. i miss the old school gansta gay they are productive and not destructive
Breh… always doing my Asian homies dirty with the typical nerdy flamboyant role. We for sure ain’t all like that. So woke that it’s almost disrespectful at this point 😂😂😂
Not really. I’m Asian as well and I fuckin love Ozzie. Granted, I do consider myself a nerd, but if being labeled that is your biggest concern, you have no idea how bad it can really be.
@@edm240b9 Grew up in a predominantly white town. Heard it all, dude. I’m just tripped out how backwards Hollywood is by portraying us as the same stereotype yet claim to be progressive 🤷🏻♂️
@@notorioussloth I’m not well versed into the Hollywood world of gay Asian nerd stereotype, I barely pay attention to them as it is, please give me some other examples. Also, you do realize that this is how this kid talks IRL right? He’s not really putting on an act, that’s how he talks IRL.
