Ahh thank you so much for stopping by again and watching, I am glad you enjoyed it, it really makes it all worth it when I get feedback like this. Keep well sir! Hylt
I did not know anything about this Locomotive until I came across a Black and White photo of it with the crew standing near the engine, it looked massive and then just 2 weeks later there was a video of the prototype on RU-vid. Since then it has been at the top of my list of must-have Locomotives. I have to make a video of my layout update before it is stripped and ready for removal to another house. Martin. (Thailand)
The P2 was the most powerful loco - as measured by tractive effort - to run on the UK mainlines, with the exception of the LMS/LNER Garrets. I believe the LMS Duchess/Coronations were the most powerful measured by horsepower.
Hi Martin, it’s great to hear that it has climbed to the top of your must-have list. I’m looking forward to seeing a video of your current layout before you make the big move. Transitioning to a new space can be a huge undertaking, but also an exciting opportunity to redesign and enhance your setup? Best of luck with the move, and please keep us updated on your progress! Cheers, Hylt
Hi mate I hope you are well Yes this is stunning model As a lner fan it just jaw droping Mine had issues on 2nd radius bends. I have been told it built for 3rd radius or greater but un sure. I was missing some stuff out my details bag. Which hornby have not sent. Am hoping hornby do a p1. As for the p2 with the extra smoke deflectors analogue people are going to have to wait. Your is very good at slow speeds Looks amazing on your railway Well edited and great camera work Thank you for sharing your models with us Keep safe ARP
Hello Adi, Thanks mate, yes indeed quite the beauty isn’t she? That’s unfortunate to hear about your missing details, what was missing? Oh man a P1 would truly be special! Here’s hoping! Thank you for the kind words mate, it means a lot, still got a lot to learn. Keep well. Hylt
Great video as always. I really love the streamlined version of the Mikados; the real things thundered past my house back in the day. I’m surprised by the weight of the model though and expected it to be heavier.
@@stephendavies6949 Lol, my house was here at the time, but that was a long time before I was born. There are photos of them at Dundee Tay Bridge shed in streamlined form… they looked absolute beasts! For steam traction I have to settle myself with watching ‘specials’ coming through, although to be fair the second last one was ‘Flying Scotsman’. UoSA was a particular favourite of mine… can’t get enough of that chime whistle.
Seconding Stephen’s comment here, that is super special Derick. You certainly are well situated, in fact, you probably have a dream location in many people’s books. 👌 thanks as always for stopping by mate. It means a lot to me. Hylt
Well again you are buying what appeals to you, good on you! Also have this loco and Prince of Wales. LNER express passenger locos are my favourites. Your layout is great, it shows off the loco much better than the Sam’s Trains carpet layout. Have you managed to track down a Union of South Africa yet?
Hello Denis 😀 Thank you so much for watching, and yes, I am slowly building up this Celtic collection. I thought perhaps it looked a little out of place here on the layout, almost too big? 🤣 Not as of yet. I missed the boat as Kernow have now sold out, I would like the Dublo version ideally but will keep looking! Keep well sir, Hylt
Hello there 😊 you know… you’re absolutely right 😂 but with everything basically down, let’s pretend the river runs along the plateau before cascading down off the board? 😅 imagination does wonders! Thank you for watching, it means a lot! Hylt
The footplate on the streamlined version is not diecast, despite Hornby saying that it is. It's plastic. The unstreamlined versions do have the diecast footplate, making them around 420 grams.
I have P2’s Prince of Wales and Earle Marischal. Both of these have die cast running boards. Unfortunately Lord President, contrary to what Hornby have stated on the box, does not. It has a plastic one. It clearly states on the box that it has a die cast running board. This is a fabrication. This aside, it’s a fantastic model as are the other two. I just don’t know why Hornby would fit a plastic running board to this one and a metal one to the other two.
Hello Stephen, thank you for watching. And yes as you say, very odd. I have made an edit to my description to point out this mistake on my part. I am quite miffed with myself for missing this. Apologies. As you say, very odd that it wasn’t done on these? Thanks for sharing and for popping by. Keep well, Hylt
Such a lovely loco. Livery is awesome. I have a 4% gradient on my layout and it's OK for most things. Just make sure your pointwork is level and everything is sweet. Love the crimson and cream Gresley coaches. (blood and custard?, dont know) Nice loco, cheers for the reveiw. I do like a bit of Lego and Star Wars Funko Pops.
Hello Chris, indeed a rather stunning looking machine. Looking back, certainly need to clean up some ballast before I film again. I need to be a bit more careful of them! Blood and custard seems to be the going name, I’m not a coach expert by any means but they fit the part in my opinion. Keep well bud, love the progress on the layout, it’s starting to take shape! Hylt
Shades of Jenny's "Torture Track"! I thought they were Gresley/Thompson coaches too, repainted by BR into Blood & Custard livery. What was the official name for the livery? "Crimson Lake and Cream" maybe? I know the very first, experimental livery was known as "Plum and Spilt Milk". It was quickly superceded by Blood & Custard.
Indeed it does seem to be Richard 🤨 not sure how daft I must be to miss that 😂 thanks for pointing it out, how clumsy. I will do my best not to make mistakes like that again. Thanks for watching, Hylt
Hi Hilton, good review overall, I am looking to get one or both versions of the New P2 steam locomotives from hornby, definitely looking at 2002 Earl Marchal and may look at getting this version you have shown here but funnily enough I have actually had kitbuilt model of a streamlined P2 for quite a few years now, now to be fair my experience of that kitbuilt model has not been very good at all, first off I thin’ it would be fair to call it a con , I originally purchased it at a small show I want to and while it only cost me £75 it was sold to me as being a running model but when I got it back and placed it on some track it wouldn’t move, it turned out that on this kitbuilt on I had bought while there was a motor fitted there were no pickups attached to the model and because it was a kitbuilt model and because I was a lot younger at 5he time having very little experience of kitbuilt models I had no idea how to fit pickups to it, after taking it to another show to talk to a very good kit builder called Tony Wright I found out that the kit that it was built from was not very good and it wasn’t worth fitting the pickups to and getting it running, eventually at a later stage all the valve gear fell apart and it basically became useless until I found a working chassis of the hornby one that had been released, I purchased one of those and with some heavy modification I was able to fit the metal body onto the hornby chassis and then I managed to add the rest of the valve gear out of some spares I had and my kitbuilt streamlined P2 has become quite a nice model for me, great video overall, as I say definitely a model I am considering along with the Earl Marischal but think I will go for the earlier version without the double smoke deflectors on that myself.
Hi David, thank you for sharing your experience! It sounds like you've had quite a journey with your kitbuilt P2. Despite the initial challenges and frustrations, it's impressive that you were able to salvage the model and turn it into something you're proud of with the help of a Hornby chassis and some spare parts. I really like the later version of Earl Marischal with the double smoke deflectors; it has a classic look that really stands out. Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences and additions to your collection! Cheers, Hylt
Hey Hylt, amazing looking loco but to big for my present layout I think. Just would not be able to do it justice. Great to see it on your layout though.
Hello Tony 😊 thanks for popping in as always. Appreciate it. Maybe when the layout expands? 🤨 which I have no doubt it will at some point 👍 keep well boss 🫡
Hello Emmanuel, you are absolutely correct and I certainly don’t see that as you coming across as a know it all. In fact, I know bugger all at times! I have made an edit to the description to point this out. My total mistake, I am kicking myself for missing that. Thank you for sharing, it’s feedback like this that makes me improve with each video. Keep well man.
Hi again Hylt. Your review helped to pass the time whilst waiting for a flight at LHR. I've got the older - but full fat Hornby Railways - version of Cock O' The North: a very different looking beast! But all 6 of the class are true Gresley beasts, nonetheless. Another very good review, and very much appreciated by us LNER fans. Hornby at its best is hard to beat. Nice touch reversing it into the shed alongside the much later designed (and far later manufactured) A1 Tornado. Now and again, I see Lord President for sale at model shops and exhibitions for £160 - £180, so I may pick one up. It will provide an interesting juxtaposition between it and my fleet of A4s. Hornby has announced another loco with the A4-style streamlining: a B17/5. That will be a very interesting model, as it was - and remained, even after it got the "A4 treatment" - a 4-6-0 ten wheeler! Regarding your "Hill of dispair", I guess you could name it, "Hill of Hope", because there's a first rate single malt to be savoured for those who manage to reach the top...! Keep up the excellent work, sir. You're building a brand. PS: measured by tractive effort, the P2s were the most powerful steam locos to run on the BR mainline (excluding the Garrets). The Duchess/Coronation Class were the most powerful if measured by horsepower.
Hello Stephen, so glad to hear this was a good way to tithe over the time as you head off yet again! I must say, I really do like the older full ‘fat’ as you say CoTN, but thought I would wait for the Earl with extra smoke deflectors, as it just looks that much more brutish! I think at around £160 - £180 used, and in good condition, this is a good buy for that kind of price. Its an impressive model no doubt but I am quite surprised at the lack of die-cast work done on it :/ I saw the B17, I am leaning towards City of London, do you have your eye on a particular version for it? Funny little things those, they look like compressed A4s 😄 Aha, now thats an idea, perhaps we call the top of the hill ‘Hope Crest’? Thank you always for your support, both in watching and for always being so informative and having my back here in the comments, I always look out for your input on my videos, it makes my day. Speaking of brand, I am toying with the idea of potentially making a sweater or hoodie with some branding to help sort of offset these INSANE import fees. But I don’t want to get too ahead of myself. Impressive note on the tractive effort. I need to get around to a coronation at some point. Keep well and safe travels on your journey! Hylt
@Proper_Chuffed Hi Hylt. I think it is very important to support people like yourself, as you guys are the changing face of the hobby, creating "virtual" model railway clubs by investing your time and talents into making quality content for the rest of us to enjoy. The £160 - £180 price I mentioned was for new examples. Even 2nd generation (double chimney, extra lamps) "Hush Hush" locos in their original format have now dipped below the £200 mark, although at these prices, they won't be around for long. They are already priced at a premium in the used market. Good to see some familiar YT-bers starting to comment in your videos, and you on theirs.
That’s good to hear, helps me justify the idea a little more, so I am glad to hear that 😊 Wow for a new example. That’s a pretty great price! I am genuinely surprised! Its great to be a part of the larger community, as much as I am still a real minnow in the pond 😅 thanks Stephen
Evening Hilton, nice video as always matey, you’ve certainly been busy on it! scenics are looking really well. I can’t get up to Liberty Junction for the time being as I’ve had a little procedure 🍆✂️😱 so can’t do the steps 😭 Those hill of despair rocks are 👌 what mould did you use for them? Ps I’ll check out the Lego vid next
Dave! 🤣 what happened?! Wait. Don’t answer that here 😂😂 sorry about that chief. But I do think LJ needs some time to rebuild after the aliens, bodysnatchers and whatnot 😂 shame man, take it easy and hope you’re back doing what you do best asap. I used the woodland scenics rock moulds, they came out great! Cheers boss 🙌
@Proper_Chuffed yes I have cock o the north and lord president, both renumbered with there BR number and British Railways on the tender. How they would have appeared if not rebuild to 4-6-2. It's just a shame Hornby has taken the route of giving the appearance that the eccentric rod moves, down to costing I guess. Have no plans to purchase any more Hornby because of that issue. At the moment Bachmann seem to have eccentric rod working hope they don't take the Hornby route. Enjoyed the review.
As much as I like the P2 class, the price of these newer models was always off-putting. I may get one eventually (preferably 2007 or 2002 with extra smoke deflectors), but I've still got the older model of locomotive No. 2001, which was released back in Hornby's bizarre 'Design-Clever' era. I only got the main range version for the better lining and number shading, despite the tooling being the same as the basic Railroad Range version. Thinking back to the streamlined Lord President, I remember being very confused when I first saw a photograph of the real thing. It's just so bizarre to see anything other than an A4 Pacific with that kind of streamlining. For whatever reason, even a pair of 'B17' 4-6-0s had it as well, albeit only briefly.
Ah yes, you've mentioned the B17 streamlines too. As I live in East Anglia (where these unique locos were built to run), I'll have to buy one when they become available. I have one of them (Norwich City) it its original form, so I'll display them side-by-side.
Hello TTFT 😊 indeed, a real looker and quite impressive, as always, you have such vast knowledge of these machines which never ceases to impress. I think I may have to nab a B17 when they come out, which is fairly soon I think? Indeed just so odd with it not being an A4 but just holding that shape. Thanks for popping in mate
I don't know when the streamlined B17s will be released, but it'll certainly be interesting to see what it looks like alongside a normal B17. Speaking of which, I've still got 2800 'Sandringham' in my collection.
@TheTrainspotterFromTauranga I agree. It will be interesting. I like the B17s. They just "look right". Apart from 2 Norwich City's (heaven knows why!) I have Manchester United & Liverpool, all in LNER Doncaster Green, with 3 out of the four having some very fetching crimson lining on the underframes. I would like a later B17/6 in BR Green with the early Crest.
Bri’s win the lotto 😂 Respect though. Sam’s Trains doesn’t even buy this many locos (and when he does, half are old). Props to Hylton for not being tight 😂
I take it you didnt notice the pic at 5:19 is fake : its what a de-streamlined P2 might have looked like had it not been converted into a Pacific at the same time. I beleive Hornby may have made a model of the A2/2 conversion
Hey Stan, no I certainly didn’t pick up on that at all 😅 thank you for pointing it out to me. Apologies for that. I am still learning a lot as I go but appreciate you picking that up and sharing. Thanks, Hylt
@@Proper_Chuffed Is all good my friend, I had to rewind it a couple of times to be sure. I've actually got an O gauge DJH kit for the rebuild in the stash.. one day I'll get around to building it
@@Proper_ChuffedJH not having built any the DJH kits I cant confirm or deny how good it will be - I suspect a lot of the success of the build is dependant on the skill of the builder - I've only built 2 locomotives kits myself, both 6 coupled inside cylinder types, and refinished a few others (you'll see them on my channel here ). There's a couple of rebuilds in the pipeline: currently working on a WD, a major rebuild of an Ivatt 2MT, and a partial rebuild of an A5 tank ( front end out of square and smoke box door upside down!)
@Proper_Chuffed it does now, but originally, it meant sexually excited! 😂🤣 Great channel, by the way. I'm just starting my layout after watching "Hornby a model world" and becoming hooked.
@@grasshoppertime 😂😂😂 well now, that gives new meaning to it! 😂 too late to change the name now! Ah brilliant! That sound amazing, best of luck with the layout, are you setting it in a certain era? Thanks for the kind words, I really do appreciate it Hylt
@Proper_Chuffed I'm not 100% sure yet. It took weeks to decide on a scale, then longer to decide on a track plan. Probably heritage though as I like various engine types, eras and liveries. Your scenery is excellent. Subscribed.
@@grasshoppertime that was my excuse, run what I want on a heritage line, a simple and easy workaround especially given the amount of people eager to quickly chastise accuracy 😂 thank you so much for subscribing and best of luck with your layout! Do let me know how it progresses! Hylt
Why LMS coaches on an LNER Loco. From remembrance traveling to Liverpool and back, LMS TRAINS where filthy and you ended up black on them , whereas LNER Teaks where spotless.
Well, first of all, "Rule 1" applies. Also, looking at them (albeit from afar) they seem to be Gresley/Thompson teaks, repainted into early British Railways "blood and custard" livery.
