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The Pac-12 continues waiting for the ACC's legal battles to unfold before formally planning their potential rebuild of the league. Which 6 schools should be the top options for Commissioner Teresa Gould to invite to form the premier G5 league in the country?
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@Fred_JMZ 3 месяца назад

Schools that the PAC 12 will need: San Diego State, Boise State, Air Force, UNLV, Fresno, Colorado State, UTSA, Texas State

@Kernumba10 3 месяца назад

Memphis and Fresno state pac 12 would be fire

@FresnoState101 3 месяца назад

FRESNO STATE Ranks 56th in the nation in the media market! Sacramento all the way down to Bakersfield!! Over 2.3 million viewers! Go Dogs!!!

@icedragon1000 3 месяца назад

It's more than that Sacramento alone is 2 million, Fresno 1 million, Bakersfield almost a million. That doesn't include the coastal areas, were the farm country north of Sacramento. You're looking into the area of roughly 6 million people

@hickorydock501 3 месяца назад

Hero stories are few and far between. The entire Pac 12 implosion has created an epic story that has played out with dramatic flare. Thank you Spencer for keeping an occasional spitlight on it. It is going to get even more interesting soon. Through it all I have become more and more interested in the MW and how they operate and could see a reverse merger plus adding a few more strong schools. Maybe a relegation model? It would create even more drama....and that sells.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Cheers!

@tylernelson3343 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnCollegeFootball Spencer I have a question for you. What is the best number for how many schools can a conference have. Do you think that 20 schools would be good. 24 schools in a conference would be be too many schools.

@gigantopithecus100 3 месяца назад

There’s a ton of CSU alumni in Denver. CSU would make a good Pac-12 member. Brand new stadium, good academics, and Fort Collins is a great college town.

@jongrove02 3 месяца назад

Air Force is in Colorado Springs

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Crossed it up with CSU, my bad!

@tylernelson3343 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnCollegeFootball Spencer I have a question for you. What about adding FCS schools to the PAC 12 or better to add G5 schools instead.

@cacogenicist 3 месяца назад

@@tylernelson3343- Montana + Montana State & NDSU + SDSU -- something like that? Take the best football program in that group, NDSU -- their stadium seats fewer than 19k. Almost no one lives in North Dakota. No significant media market. They are far from everything. Moving to FBS would probably bankrupt them.

@tylernelson3343 3 месяца назад

@@cacogenicist I was asking Spencer his thoughts on Sacramento State joining the PAC. I don’t see Eastern Washington joining the PAC because of financial concerns. North Dakota State has its pros and cons.

@charleswebsterjr.6350 3 месяца назад

@cacogenicist mountain west would probably be the Ideal conference for them, cause I doubt the new pac 12 will take Wyoming, Nevada,New Mexico, San Jose State and Hawaii.

@dgart7434 3 месяца назад

If 6 schools from the MW leave doesn't that mean that the departing schools would all have to pay exit fees? At that point it might be better to take at least 9 so you can dissolve the MWC. The other issue is still TV revenue. Yes OSU and Wazzu have a deal with the CW (which is great for them). But even if they can extend it who is to say that the CW will pay for an entire conference? And if not them who? Will CBS/Fox pay MW schools more to play under the PAC brand? Will ESPN, Apple, or Amazon step in? The PAC still has not resolved its fundamental issue. How to retain/gain new members without a solid media rights deal.

@stevedonnie4077 3 месяца назад

Personally I don’t trust AF to remain interesting/good enough long term to justify adding, but the other top 4 and probably UNLV are definitely priority. I will also say adding at least 4 AAC schools has to be a priority as well. Gotta gut the competition of their top brands and expand beyond the west coast if you want to be the premier G5 conference.

@gregsmith230 3 месяца назад

Ram fan here, never underestimate Air Force. They bring it all day long. No quit.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

That's my thought as well--but Air Force keeps being a high floor program, beats P5 schools, makes geographical sense

@tylernelson3343 3 месяца назад

I keep on saying that they have to get into Texas market

@kalisbestpttkoj692 3 месяца назад

Fresno state has the highest fan attendance compare to MWC teams, Stanford and Cal. Fresno state , Boise State, San Diego state, UNLV, Colorado State, San Jose state, and Wyoming will make the pac 9 the champion conference.

@DavidGonzalez-jb2mg 3 месяца назад

Airforce makes sense given the amount of those that have served in the Airforce. Colorado Springs may not be a major market but they still have a large alumna of those that served. San Jose will likely run on the coattails of San Diego and Fresno as the Cal State system may not allow them to be left behind (UCLA/Cal precedent). This situation is ripe for a two division situation with a relegation promotion format and it would leave the door open for Calford to come back when the wheels fall off the Acc. Calford wont associate with Cal State if they have a choice but they will see soon that they chose poorly. Just bring all the MWC and have a two division format.

@Mr.Ed_Wayner 3 месяца назад

Tried to hit like button to be like # 1. Did not work. AF is in Colorado Springs not Ft Collin’s (CSU). I don’t think it would be smart for WSU/OSU to spend their PAC-12 kitty in paying for MWC team exit fees. Better off doing a reverse merger and add 2 central time zone schools such as UTSA, Texas St, UNT or Tulsa. Then if after 2026 they get a P4 invite, then PAC-14 can add 2 more central time zone schools.

@aBrewster29 3 месяца назад

I tend to agree. Since we’re picking on San Jose St, it’s probably cheaper to bring them along at a lower share than it is to kick them out. Also, the MW kind of needs the dead weight schools to boost the profile of the others. The few people who know the MW will know that the six Spencer listed here are good. But someone has to be at the bottom, and the nation isn’t going to give OSU or Boise State any props for beating a 2-6 Fresno State team, however that shakes out.

@stevedonnie4077 3 месяца назад

Schools pay exit fees, not conferences. The Pac also has the money to pay the penalty for poaching MW schools. A reverse merger would be the worst option both in terms of value and perception. Value-wise, you’re splitting a media deal more ways with lesser schools than if you just poached the best. Perception-wise you become one of a few G5 conference instead of the premier G5. Also if you merge then the G5 playoff spot is up for grabs between multiple conferences, whereas if you poach the best of the MW and AAC the playoff is basically guaranteed for the conference champ. I’ll also say poaching MW schools right as they’re negotiating a new media deal would be brutal, but it would also be an effective way to absorb value for the PAC and leave a competitor conference crippled.

@aBrewster29 3 месяца назад

@@stevedonnie4077 a lot of assumptions in there. Between the extremes of inclusion and exclusion is a whole lot of negotiating room, and this is a unique situation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a unique arrangement come of this. As to tanking the G5 competition, you’re not wrong, but it’s not the whole picture. The MW actually has greater collective strength with a strong G5. Creating a large gap from the other G5 doesn’t help the MW if it can’t close the gap with the P4 (very, very long shot). The threat of the G5s being cut off altogether is serious. Safety in numbers.

@stevedonnie4077 3 месяца назад

@@aBrewster29 True, for instance in the video the him saying the ACC would survive only losing a few schools but wouldn’t expand to include the Pac2 is an assumption I disagree with. But going with that scenario, i truly believe the Pac would want to elevate above the rest of the G5 by consolidating the value of the best G5 conferences. I am an OSU fan who’s not interested in helping the MW, I want to rob it for most of its worth. Same with the AAC, Although geography makes that more difficult. IMO the goal is of course a P4 invite first, but if the Pac has to remain then the backup plan should be to create a semi-national conference that’s closer to the ACC and Big12 than it is to what’s left of the MW or AAC.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Haha I appreciate your dedication!

@Mr.Ed_Wayner 3 месяца назад

Spencer, Texas A&M hasn’t played TU in football since 2011. Last time UGA visited College Station in football since A&M joined the SEC in 2012. Never.

@adamb6370 3 месяца назад

And yet Florida has been there 2/3 times and will host TAMU this year and play in Kyle again next year. I don’t get new SEC scheduling.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

I'm glad the rivalry is back.

@mikefredd3390 3 месяца назад

What is the best option for OSU and WSU in your opinion?

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Best: Get into Big 12 Most likely: Rebuild Pac-12 with these 6 schools and 4-6 more

@ZacharyManuel-r9e Месяц назад

Join the mw. If the tops schools in mw wanted to move they would have already done so.

@chris__702 3 месяца назад

Why would the MW teams leave which is probably the best group of 5 conference? Wouldnt make anyvsense at all.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

To make the best G5 league. Rebuilt league w/OSU and WSU is stronger than current MW

@tilu3303 25 дней назад

Turns out this one aged extremely well.

@sjbjohn 3 месяца назад

PAC-12 NORTH Oregon State Washington State Boise State SOUTH San Diego State Fresno State University of Nevada Las Vegas EAST Colorado State Utah State Wyoming MILITARY Air Force Navy Army

@philipdolan426 3 месяца назад

There is a shit ton of money in san jose. As we all know, stanford and san jose state are basically roommates. San jose state would start to draw A lot more eyeballs and packed the stadium, if stanford and Cal Had to come visit and play at their stadium every year. You're basically saying these three teams in the bay area have to play each other every year. Battle of the bay. I think San Jose state is one of those teams. That's on the fringe of either getting in or not. If The pack twelve Goes to 12 and beyond in their conference. I can see san jose state getting in

@DavidGonzalez-jb2mg 3 месяца назад

Im in the Bay and none of that money in SJ is interested in Sj football. In fact they aren't interested in Stanford or Cal football either. This place sucks for college football.

@robertstwocents 3 месяца назад

Without an automatic bid for the conference champion. There is no reason for the Pac 12 to exist.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

If they build it back up, they can be a G5 league

@robertstwocents 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnCollegeFootball Do you honestly think the other leagues would take a financial hit to allow a fifth conference?

@Roman-wx7ur 3 месяца назад

Why are Hawaii and Gonzaga not being talked about? Maybe the Montana schools then too

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Hawaii is too far away, Gonzaga only has basketball which is 15% (ish) of media rights value

@Joe-m2d 3 месяца назад

Yes to Tulane, UTSA, Rice, Texas St. Colorado St., San Diego St., but no to Memphis & USF which will end up in All Coast Conference (ACC). Form alliance with Mountain West to avoid exit fees. Create ranked challenge week at end of season with playoff with Mountain West. Need to act quickly before ACC comes for Oregon St. , Washington State, Colorado State, San Diego St, Tulane and/or Rice.

@philipdolan426 3 месяца назад

San Jose state should have been a founding member in the pac12 But that last invite went to stanford

@charleswebsterjr.6350 3 месяца назад

Honestly I think San Jose State can do a whole lot better with there athletic programs especially football, basketball and baseball wise.

@AlohaBlockchain 3 месяца назад

The SSC,The State Schools Conference

@DocSkirv 3 месяца назад

No way Fresno is invited if Stanford and Cal are available.

@michaelwall3393 3 месяца назад

You would not bring in Boise State and others on the wishlist of fantasies of rebuilding the PAC if Stanford, Cal, and others were to come or whatever; because they would not come if those schools were in a new G6 PAC-less conference.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

In the hypothetical I laid out, they stay in ACC

@charlieh108 3 месяца назад

Welcome to another edition of "Locked on PAC 12 Leftovers".

@icedragon1000 3 месяца назад

Why is everyone in iove with Colorado st. They are not a good program. Air Force is a much better team in Colorado.

@Chevy265V8 2 месяца назад

It's not often I come across someone like you with you view on the most undeserving G5 program that gets so much hype but you're a breath of fresh air. Colorado State is the most overrated overhyped and overglorified G5 program in the country. The only reason why anybody would watch CSU is when every once in a while when you want to watch a team get blown out you tune in to them. They're so bad that they aren't even worth taking in as a cupcake team for everyone else

@austinhoover4797 3 месяца назад

Wyoming has better TV numbers then Fresno

@aBrewster29 3 месяца назад

Wyoming also has one of the best brands in the MW and a valuable rivalry with Colorado St. I would be shocked if UW doesn’t bring enough value to the table to be a peer with the OSU/WSU.

@ManuelAOlgin 3 месяца назад

Fresno has more championships than Wyoming

@FresnoState101 3 месяца назад

Bull fkn Shit!! FRESNO Ranks 56th in the Nation for TV Market! Don't spread lies bro!

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

Wyoming's home crowd might be a reason to add them on its own

@aBrewster29 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnCollegeFootball 💯

@mikek3979 3 месяца назад

Sadly, PAC-2 is not a magnet for high value programs.

@ikinniobi6411 3 месяца назад

21:54 LETS GO TEXAS A&M thank you for the texas hate I love it. A&M are winning 10-11 games

@michaelwall3393 3 месяца назад

They will win 8-9 plus a possible bowl win. Ampersand Meatball University (TA&M) is not winning 11 games, and 10 would be with a bowl win.

@Troy2023-xc1zy 3 месяца назад

New Mexico, USTA and Tulsa

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

UTSA I can see...not as high on the other 2

@charleswebsterjr.6350 3 месяца назад

@@LockedOnCollegeFootball UTSA is Growing and Texas State basically in the San Marcos/Austin area which program is Growing to. UTSA,Texas State,North Texas and Rice is basically getting a presence in Houston,Dallas,San Antonio and Austin area.

@TimmyPruitt166 3 месяца назад

LMAO, Rebuild the Pac 12! No matter what u do or the teams u add the Pac 12 is dead and just let the name die instead of letting sucky teams degrade it. The 3 teams that joined the ACC just can't quit the ACC and comeback they signed contracts. This guys conf died and he is still taking digs at the Big12, dude the ACC is not better than the Big12 so let it go bro let it go. The coach Prime affect is already wearing off and another season like last season and it will be all the way gone, him not recruiting HS kids is going be his downfall.

@natsymens 3 месяца назад

I think the Oregon State will eventually get into the Big 12.

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

They've proven worthy of being a power athletics program

@frictionhitch 3 месяца назад

Both the ACC and BIG12 are dead. Why wouldn't the top brands team up? Isn't that exactly what is happening across CFB? Oregon and Washington could continue to play Arizona and Utah but...Ohio State and Michigan. Let's not operate in your hypothetical world cuz it is hypothetical and does not reflect reality. The biggest brands left absolutely will get together for a pow-wow. They already are. The best teams(from a media srandpoint) not blessed with an invite to the B1G or SEC will get together and form the final member of the P3. CUZ MONEY

@frictionhitch 3 месяца назад

BIG12 FANS "STABILITY" Like the 100+ years of the PAC? lol

@frictionhitch 3 месяца назад

ACC fans Who is watching and which schools are they watching? CUZ MONEY

@JoeMChristensen_ 3 месяца назад

Spencer: As always, you are overvaluing your Alma Mater and undervaluing schools in the MWC. If you look at TV numbers for MWC schools while subtracting games against Power 4 conference teams, you end up with viewership numbers that are pretty bad for SDSU, UNLV (last year was the exception), and CSU. Yet you keep highlighting these schools. Nevada and UNM are terrible. But every other MWC team has TV numbers that hover in the same range… 600-700k. SJSU’s numbers are an higher. But you always ignore SJSU. If you take OSU and WSUs numbers and remove Power 4 teams, their TV numbers are mediocre. You keep creating this mythic wannabe power conference using TV numbers that don’t play out.

@bryanpbrowning8620 29 дней назад

Its a shame Oregon left and took all their hometown refs with them 🤣

@romanmoronie 3 месяца назад

Why on earth would any school join with the Pac2? That's beyond stupid

@LockedOnCollegeFootball 3 месяца назад

To get a better path to the playoff

@DavidGonzalez-jb2mg 3 месяца назад

Valid point here. Why? No path to the big money, still on the outside looking in! MWC will hold the line and OSU/WSU will realize that they are the mid major that they have always been. They have always been a mid major with twice the money available to them than Boise and Fresno, who do more with less. Wait and see what their programs are like in 8 years without the money from the PAC (they will be like Colorado State and Utah State) and Boise/Fresno/SD will be winning the championships of the MWC. They know it and if they go down this path it will be evident that they do not operate above goals.