Pack Hunter: Why Gjallarhorn is the Best Exotic in Destiny 2

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Alternate titles:
- How One Exotic Permanently Forged Destiny’s DPS Meta
- This Exotic is BETTER than Well and Tether COMBINED…
- The Most Broken Weapon in Destiny PvE History… and Bungie Won’t Touch It
- This One Trick Allows a BLUE ROCKET to do MORE Damage than Exotics…
- How to Kill Every Raid Boss in under 8 Seconds
- The Exotic that Killed Linears, Swords, and Everything Else
They might all sound ridiculous, but they’re all completely true. Pack Hunter takes a fantastic exotic that affects a leading power weapon class and removes any and all competition in the matter. After weeks and weeks of testing the perk’s effects, I can comfortably support all of these statements, and in this video, we’ll explore just how and why Pack Hunter makes Gjallarhorn the most broken exotic this game has ever seen, full stop.
(and sorry about some of the weird narration jumps, Resolve made some of my voiceover really weird so I had to re-record some sections)
Boss damage spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/
Clip credits, in order of appearance (repeats omitted, mine if not listed):
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Vow of the Disciple, Crew: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1fGHF_i58Gc.html
Lake of Shadows, Simple: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w2tqdYxN3-c.html
Last Wish, Seiun: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Uuc-4vA2AA4.html
The Devil’s Lair, SpecialHero: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oN_5ckwiQEo.html
The Glassway, Tobi: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-62CWv_oZI8k.html
Deep Stone Crypt, Zero: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NrfKG2m3O24.html
Root of Nightmares, Gunnarhawk: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NvfDl4lyZDM.html
King’s Fall, Hash: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UhNP22gyw6k.html
Garden of Salvation, Fishy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HY80CnHONWc.html
King’s Fall, Panora: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FC0YYXqP__4.html
The Inverted Spire, Simple: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qKYjUXq-We0.html
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:53 Basics
02:17 Add Clear
03:49 Damage
10:29 Outro
Music:
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Music provided by BreakingCopyright: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fs2kNf7nyE4.html

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@LlamaD2 10 месяцев назад

Cup-Bearer SA/2 SWEEP!

@Flitzzzzy 10 месяцев назад

isnt that the guy who sold stuff in season of opulence ?

@Flametongue1 10 месяцев назад

@@Flitzzzzy nah its the blue rocket, opulence seller was benedict i think

@pyyrr 10 месяцев назад

thunderlord will reverse sweep, what weapon is it going to smoke next? 💀🚬🫃🏽🫃🏽

@matheussjm 10 месяцев назад

We discovered an issue were pack hunter is doing more damage than intended

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

@mynameislegion_xyz 10 месяцев назад

100% they will change this as they should. Also I’m 90% sure this only works on higher frame rates which means consoles are sol..

@atheon- 10 месяцев назад

if they do that, they would either buff gjallarhorn directly or buff pack hunter to compensate, bungie can't afford making the most iconic, well known, beloved and overused exotic die down, it is the same thing as cod making a bad intervention, counter strike making the AK unusable, god of war making the blades of chaos shitty

@__NORO__ 10 месяцев назад

⁠@@atheon-even if they change/fix it I guess it they will need a couple of months to buff Gjallahorn or Pack Hunter like most of the tome

@boookythegod 10 месяцев назад

@@mynameislegion_xyzit’s not fair for us console players to “ compete “ against ppl who data mine new raids and have macros for skating and DPS. Bungie needs to disable 3rd party applications… ONLY the PC community would be upset if anything, who cares? You can’t use macro’s? You can’t determine dps numbers? Oh you actually missed rockets? Welcome to normal destiny… I really believe these speed runners and streamers and content creators on PC abuse these 3rd party extensions and that’s why they seem so good. I’m usually tops dps, until I see someone doing suspicious things and then it’s like alright lol this isn’t talked about because THEY ALL PLAY PC AND ABUSE IT, but something needs to be done, like scanning everyone’s game at log in to make sure there’s no 3rd party extensions.

@uwize5897 10 месяцев назад

but thunderlord gets a 7000% damage boost for each thunderlord in the fireteam

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Ermm I think it's actually higher than 7000%

@atsukana1704 10 месяцев назад

I am glad the community at large is turning thunderlord into a meme for people who don’t understand dps

@breezesux 10 месяцев назад

The cup bearer sweep is CRAZY

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

AND THAT'S ON JBD

@fall3718 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic On Dr. Lowman himself

@VRGUILE 10 месяцев назад

I very much enjoy how the most powerful and valued weapons in the game are not dps monsters, but are support weapons.

@Blahblahblaafmn 10 месяцев назад

Le horn is also a support exotic done right, imo: it's powerful enough that on its own it's a very solid option even without using the support function for teammates' rockets. The Navigator does a great job, imo, of following in that legacy with a support function, a "fun/utility" function, and passable damage (trace rifles aren't anything special for DPS, but they are versatile with a good max range and being very easy to aim up close as well). Seeing how guns/things in this game evolve really helps to appreciate why people came to love the game, and I love videos like this that, while still being clickbait-y, are filled with enthusiasm and encourage us to really think about the game instead of just react (which has clearly led to a not-so-great atmosphere in recent times).

@MacticsG1 10 месяцев назад

The standard you set for yourself when it comes to video production quality is lights out. Well made as usual.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Mac :)

@gravity-arbor 10 месяцев назад

Quite an eye-opening analysis and video story.

@bradleybell9581 10 месяцев назад

Absolutely love your videos! Found your DPS series (sooo good btw) and have loved watching how you speedrun everything! You have the relaxing voice of a productivity guru, fantastic visuals, and all the empirical data to back up your points. Thanks for your hard work bro!

@NDWarrior 10 месяцев назад

Been watching you since the duo gatekeeper’s compilation like a year ago, and I just want to say I’m so excited for where this channel is going! You’re doing some awesome work, and the speedruns on twitch are a vibe when I can make the watch party! Keep up the good work!

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for your support :)

@johnpaulcross424 10 месяцев назад

Editing and gameplay were clean as hell, and your narration was really good. Can’t wait to see what else you post

@TarTacular 10 месяцев назад

Man that is one great vid, mad props to the background research, I knew there was hidden dmg caz numbers did not add up, but I did not know that it scaled with each leg rocket on team. that is insane. Thank You so much for the amazing work.

@JR-25 10 месяцев назад

Been waiting for this video for a long time, thank you for all the hard work and longggg testing hours put into gathering all this data. Keep up the great content!

@psuko 10 месяцев назад

Just started watching you and I love the videos, the background music is so fitting and the videos are structured so well and super informative. Keep it up

@smoxch5444 10 месяцев назад

Best D2 tuber out there atm, keep up the great work.

@Ysl489 10 месяцев назад

Been waiting for this video. Keep up the good work 👍

@Solxr7 10 месяцев назад

Good video. Unfortunately I disagree and as such will be sticking to my Outbreak Perfected, Gnawing Hunger and Tarantula Loadout.

@burnt2951 10 месяцев назад

My brother that loadout is very bad

@snottytoe6957 10 месяцев назад

@@burnt2951 One of the people that "uses what they like, not what's best" then complains that they get low DPS and can't kill champions.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Tarantula with the Box Breathing kinda quirky doe

@ShepardRockstar 10 месяцев назад

Hey don’t you shit talk tarantula my *checks notes* …feeding frenzy and kill clip roll does great dps…

@snottytoe6957 10 месяцев назад

@@ShepardRockstar designated mid-DPS ad clear.

@kings_4099 10 месяцев назад

Awesome stuff man keep it up!

@lucasespindola5093 10 месяцев назад

Perfect job! extremely detailed..

@dieguitopp 10 месяцев назад

My god, your content is another level sir. I just love it. The quality of the script and the data analysis just magnificent. Big fan here. How can I contribute to keep getting more of this content?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

The only thing that I ask is that my videos reach the right audience so that more people become more passionate/enthusiastic about improving at the game, so if you can share this with people you think might enjoy it, that's all I can hope for :)

@Asashinss 10 месяцев назад

Absoutly excellent in depth guide to rockets i never reliazed that explosvie light and lasting were detrements to our teams damage

@andyc3731 Месяц назад

maaaaaan throwback to crota on destiny 1!!! - so nostalgic. been 5+ years since i played destiny and starting to get back on. (what if I told you I bought ghorn from xur week 1 of destiny)… man i love this game and its been so nostalgic ever since I got back on. this video makes me smile because it’s heavy facts

@Philly_Phil 10 месяцев назад

Your channel has been an absolute blessing to the Destiny community!

@Misterchief_78 10 месяцев назад

Always knew gally was dummy strong but I never expected it to be so strong that a blue rocket with manual reloads and no damage rotation to out dps literally every other non rocket legendary/exotic weapon 😂

@ComradeKenobi 10 месяцев назад

Banger as always

@jetardeshna3449 10 месяцев назад

Great video, I can only imagine the amount of work and coordination that went into this testing. I have a question: Assuming Gally as the heavy slot weapon, what would the other 2 weapons look like (now that double special is allegedly fixed, again) and on what class + class exotic. Along the lines of the ultimate support guardian. Sorry if it was already mentioned and I didn't pay attention.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

A good start is Heritage/Succession + Forbearance until damage, then double slug or something similar

@MilkD2 10 месяцев назад

In a damage scenario, double special remains unchanged.

@thegolfghoul 10 месяцев назад

Just got it yesterday, this was right on time :)

@xLevelDown 10 месяцев назад

great video, thank you for sharing this information with the comunity. btw do you guys plan/work on doing the sub 10 dsc run?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Maybe at some point in the future but DSC isn't a top priority for me at the moment

@asphyxxia 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for your work with these videos Aegis. Just today I had a random lfg mention this exact video, before I even watched it. We're finally transcending "let's use mg's/linears/whatever" in lfg and just accept the fact that Ghorn is busted and there's literally no competition in any scenario. Keep it coming, you're improving the general playerbase in addition to providing insight for more experienced players. GGs

@onni4681 10 месяцев назад

Great and informative video! Ghorn is really damn good, but I still think cup bearer might just beat it by a small bit

@Snow-yiur 10 месяцев назад

The gameplay playing in the background for the first minute is absolute fire, bros destroying everything in the Lost Sector

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Shout out Skaryton

@irrelevantnamehandle 10 месяцев назад

love these videos dude! this really goes to show how powerful rockets especially with giving them busted ass combos like bait and switch with reconstruction. giving rockets bait and switch was such a mistake. Literally powercreeping every single prior rocket launcher now and making us so OP, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next raid is beaten very fast since we’re so powerful at the moment or if rockets are soon to be on the cutting board for a nerf. 😂

@theboid 10 месяцев назад

100% nerfing the timer on pack hunter and rockets damage multipliers in next mid season patch

@PpTheGreatest 10 месяцев назад

As he demonstrated though, even a blue rocket with no special damage perks beats all other DPS options in the game. Bait and Switch is not behind that difference - rockets are just silly strong, with or without bait and switch

@N3RDZ4LIF3 10 месяцев назад

I'm glad I know exactly how much my teams damage is suffering now when 2 of my clanmates refuse to run rockets for anything.

@nicholasevans5518 10 месяцев назад

Well I don’t blame them there kinda boring.

@englishtb1032 10 месяцев назад

Yeah but then I get no Eager Edge sword sooooo….

@InfernoPhilM 10 месяцев назад

Crap, I’ve been using chill clip to keep the GOTD boss from teleporting all around. I do 5 mil on the end screen, but I’m probably leaving a lot of damage on the table.

@keenangan6047 10 месяцев назад

Still good. As someone who was using envious bait and switch solo I couldn’t hit her for shit

@nervousb206 10 месяцев назад

@keenangan6047 if you get a tracking bait and switch one use that instead. It's a long enough phase you'll still get 10 rockets off. For bonus points use izzy if someone else can do Arby.

@intothecosmos9677 10 месяцев назад

Can we just appreciate all the effort that went into the dps spreadsheet?

@Zephyr_love 10 месяцев назад

But, my team says thunderloard is better on master rhulk cause they have to tend to their 7 kids and only play with their feet since both of their arms have been cut off!

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

:sob:

@keenangan6047 10 месяцев назад

HAHAHAHA I FEEL YOU

@OfficialSYLF 10 месяцев назад

thank you for putting respect on tractor cannon's name.

@yaboigenghisk4813 10 месяцев назад

Never clicked a notification so fast x3

@DauntlessAria 10 месяцев назад

my homies just finished new light introduction mission with the cups and is now ready to raid.

@baltazar514 10 месяцев назад

I had no idea that explosive light and lasting impression did worse with Gally 😮

@DebuffEko 10 месяцев назад

Aegis if you ever find yourself bored, would you test waveframes bouncing? We know something funky is going on with them and it seems to benefit with multiple people. Could be that riven is just made of butter but i believe that something is going on.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Maybe

@kyle9615 10 месяцев назад

I feel like bipod could be decent with cluster bomb on the Breytech nightfall rocket, hopefully it’s viable cause it looks fun

@brindogg 10 месяцев назад

yo quick question about the boss damage spreadsheet, since thread of ascent alone will max out the handling stat on duality, apex predator and heritage what is the point of using ophidians since they dont provide a animation duration multiplier so would necrotics be better in this situation, purely for poison and unravel dmg? also, does the element of the wolfpacks change depending on the element of the rocket fired? or are they always solar as gally is

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Like I've said in the past, you can have one person on Necrotics and the rest on Ophids since the exotic at that point doesn't really matter Also yeah wolfpacks inherit the properties of the rocket that fired them

@brindogg 10 месяцев назад

danke ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤@@TheAegisRelic

@patriotnl09 10 месяцев назад

I wanted to know what your thoughts on the new icefall mantle buff coming next season where popping your class ability gives x4 stasis surge (25% damage buff) and how it would affect a cold comfort dps rotation?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Not much, since Titan struggles to reload rockets past 4

@Toffee-clan 10 месяцев назад

Wow you actually tested the stasis luckypants on your spreadsheet. Didnt expect it to be the highest dps hunter build excluding rdms lol. Yea im telling ya that chicken sl2 guy comes up with some great builds

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

I modified his rotation a bit but yeah the Revenant Impetus reload is a blessing for Lucky Pants' "fully loaded" requirement

@Toffee-clan 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic Btw do you shoot 17 malf shoots then switch or 15? I saw u shot 15 each time when you used the solar version so I was just wondering and if 15 why?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

17 is damage loss 15 is 3 explosions

@Toffee-clan 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic damm I've been shooting 17 as those last two shoots do similar to two taipan shots and u can get em out in less than a second . Is there an area to show your rotation as I wanna try it out

@vSpxctral 10 месяцев назад

Great video as always, Aegis. Thank you for another banger that 70% or more of people watching will unfortunately not consider the contents of. 🙏🙏

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Here's hoping

@toothchipper180 10 месяцев назад

town

@rowplatts 10 месяцев назад

Christ I knew rockets were good from all the super fast bakes I've seen posted, but that point about optimal stacking killing raid bosses 4 times over before any other "meta" option really highlights just how busted they are. Would not be surprised at all if Pack Hunter and/or rockets as a whole gets adjusted soon, that's just insane

@sheckelboi 10 месяцев назад

This video goes crazy honestly

@disbled 10 месяцев назад

real

@GrandMasterShein 10 месяцев назад

In before inevitable nerf due to being the best viable option for consistent dps amongst any group (including new lights/blue berries) and the elites complain they’re “bored” causing said nerf

@uberd3bil993 10 месяцев назад

in the first place in the table is a warlock. the video about the DPS kill of the boss of the second stage of the KF do you use such lodaut?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

The top DPS rotation is on hunter so no, we use warlocks because we are forced to during speedruns (from previous encounters)

@kamy9232 10 месяцев назад

This is truly insane

@gk8533 10 месяцев назад

Aegis after the bipod buff will an ALH+Bipod adaptive frame actually be good for izi rocket swap now?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

I'll find out next season :)

@keithgil1042 10 месяцев назад

Is it possible that the above expected damage (chunking) that the Wolfpack boosted rockets are doing is a frame rate thing, thus reducing the potency of the gjallarhorn on console?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

We did some brief FPS testing and even on 30FPS you do the same damage to the healthbar :P

@majjkiii 10 месяцев назад

surely lfgs will use rockets over linears now right?

@englishtb1032 10 месяцев назад

You don’t need to min max dps in lfgs lol😂

@vSpxctral 10 месяцев назад

@@englishtb1032Why be helpful and efficient when I can use THUNDERLORD ⚡⚡⚡ instead?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 #thormodeengaged #ihavearthritis #d2lfg

@liltilted_frank5038 10 месяцев назад

Well, good effort aegis, reloading a blue rocket is clearly too challenging, let us know once you find something more accessible.

@pyyrr 10 месяцев назад

nope, thunderlord is still too DOMINANT

@Astyrical 10 месяцев назад

it’s so over

@gregmccheeseballa-ui1ng 10 месяцев назад

You’ve clearly never heard of the absolute diamond in the rough that is salvations grip

@kepa. 10 месяцев назад

There's a noise when you talk, great video!

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

This is true

@IDECIDETHETRUTH 10 месяцев назад

What's up with the conversation you were having in your fireteam chat at 1:36?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

That's actually not my clip - that's my teammate Crew, and he was talking about how his Stormchaser shots on Caretaker final stand started hitting immunes randomly. Some of the people in the VC asked if he stepped off plate by accident or something, so that was his response.

@Rainbow-vf5uw 10 месяцев назад

I’m having flashbacks to early WQ when my team didn’t use rockets on Rhulk because “well, the wipe screen damage looks the same” Because the pack hunter buff is so long would it be recommended to do a damage rotation alongside occasionally shooting Gjally or would it be not worth it?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Yeah it's a good idea to extend your rotation using special weapons, if you want more info I have plenty of videos covering Gjally rotations and strategies

@Based_Shogun 10 месяцев назад

This whole time I've been holding onto a Field Prep Cluster RL because I saw a vid saying it was the strongest perk buffed by WR.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Sadge

@mcshutup5598 10 месяцев назад

bungie needs to hire you, best destiny 2 QA Tester in the land.

@joesucksatd2 10 месяцев назад

Im getting saltagreppo tweet flashbacks

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Hey man it's deserved

@crabbit. 10 месяцев назад

Do you have a link to that cupbearer sheet? I have some clan mates that still swear by thunderlord even though I send them all your videos.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

I have a video that will release in the next hour that you may be interested in...

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

(also check the description for the spreadsheet)

@GrenadeMK3 10 месяцев назад

Oh yeah here we go

@Matt_bbx 10 месяцев назад

Is it worth running rockets/gally on something like 2nd enc spire boss which moves away and prob doesnt get hit by many wolfpacks over something like levis or whisper ?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Yeah you do rockets no Gjally, check my Raid/Dungeon Boss DPS video for details

@yaboysavoie4777 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for giving me another video I can send to the next person who tells me thunderlord is best DPS

@Meznah 10 месяцев назад

Aegis, thank you for caring.

@ThatLazyyGuy 10 месяцев назад

Cup-Bearer 1 phase every raid boss video would be dope Edit: I guess you can’t do Atraks with it but all the other raid bosses lol

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

That would be kinda real actually

@blanked8243 10 месяцев назад

If you allow dmg supers

@ThatLazyyGuy 10 месяцев назад

Lmao they did it

@dtps_champion6016 10 месяцев назад

Keep making stuff that non speedrunners can learn from, this is your niche

@twocontollersonebrain9071 10 месяцев назад

I once had a argument with a LFG farming kali with linears and div instead of rockets and ghorn😂

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

I mean linears are okay, just not with Div on Kalli

@Zeto. 10 месяцев назад

Techeuns like Kali and Shuro have a very high Crit multiplier which makes precision weapons extremely strong on them. For ex. the fastest way to cook Kali are 6 Hunters with Kinetic Surge Nighthawk Golden Gun and Izanagis

@MeneIwen 10 месяцев назад

I would've loved in the conclusion section/cup-bearer DPS chart screamer that you warn people that rockets can be worse to use in specific situations. For example, a situation where you need a lot of total damage (both Caretaker or Oryx in contest mode) with a long DPS phase will make Cataclysmic/Briars worth to use over Rocket due to TOTAL Damage done to the boss, this is a very important information to share with the upcoming new Raid and it's contest mode! However when that raid will go back to normal with Contest mode closed, of course Rockets will dominate back again.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Nah this isn't really true, because of this chunking rockets are more appropriate pretty much always, including in total damage scenarios (which I briefly mention in this video)

@MeneIwen 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic in an environnement with poor ressource regeneration like Caretaker, on contest I don't think you'll make it

@MeneIwen 10 месяцев назад

I dont mean "you" as overall a team won't make it with that not you especially*

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

I don't think you are understanding what I am saying - thanks to perks like Bait and Switch, you are going to run out of ammo after having dealt the same amount to the boss' healthbar compared to linears, you will just finish dumping earlier

@GloverGaming3 10 месяцев назад

What about Eyes of Tomorrow when comparing add clear capabilities? I have to imagine that the ammo refund greatly helps with the ammo economy in comparison against Gjallarhorn

@flamexbl6282 10 месяцев назад

too many ways to generate heavy ammo to care about intrinsic heavy ammo refund with worse ad clear

@sylokthedefiled7650 10 месяцев назад

@@flamexbl6282it's not worse ad clear though. The thing can solo clear rooms in GM nightfalls in 1 maybe 2 rockets.

@BloDaWistle 10 месяцев назад

@abitofsupport601 10 месяцев назад

So basically - gally is bugged and when fixed the sandbox will re-balance out. If the 30% buff is the true value - what is the closest comparison to rockets at this %?

@Villle89 10 месяцев назад

Even without gally, rockets are still far better then anything else

@alphanumiral 10 месяцев назад

gjally scales better in larger fireteams since there's obviously more people for pack hunter to affect, but how does it scale to something like a 2 man dungeon run? does it absolutely destroy every other option even then?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Yeah it's still >60%

@_luckoftheirish_7600 10 месяцев назад

Rockets kinda are a everyone use or bust tho in a sense. Because you need a gally and the more people that use rockets the more effective the gally is. Total damage is worse, but as you pointed out if everyone is doing there part and you assume they don’t miss, total damage is irrelevant because the dps is good enough to melt everything. I feel like linears are solely for the uncoordinated team or average lfg raid.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

This video aims to change that :)

@ianhuston8946 9 месяцев назад

I didn’t see but did you test collective action with Wolfpack?

@TheAegisRelic 9 месяцев назад

@SlongestKongest Месяц назад

It should buff wolf pack rounds as the perk isn't used when firing like explosive rounds.

@lukespatola1184 10 месяцев назад

I am so glad this gun lives up to the legend it left in D1

@dave7474 10 месяцев назад

Its cool too, because 5 of the 6 people get to use their own legendary rockets with their own preferred perks, and they still get the gjallarhorn experience.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Yeah what Dave said is the best part truly

@jareddc 10 месяцев назад

putting the Thunderlord Joes to bed here 🔥💯😮‍💨

@gommyboi380 10 месяцев назад

I wonder do arc surges boost the wolf pack rounds themselves (im pretty sure they deal arc damage). Could it only work for ghally itself or for all weapons with wolfpack rounds

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

They do (surges affect wolfpacks, but the rounds do the damage of whatever rocket that fired them, so not arc on Gjally but solar)

@gk8533 10 месяцев назад

By the way you should do an exotic tier list

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

On it lol

@carnage9536 10 месяцев назад

What are the best pellet shotguns for dps? I noticed you were using wastelander on taniks. Also, when should pellet shotguns be used over slugs/fusions or other weapons?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

That's not my clip - I use Riiswalker / Without Remorse when I pellet swap. Pellets are good when a boss has a large hitbox and a possibly long-distance/annoying crit (Taniks, Oryx).

@carnage9536 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic what rolls do you want on them?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Vorpal is the main thing but you can check the Equipment tab in my spreadsheet for more details

@carnage9536 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic ok ty :)

@kalebanderson7483 10 месяцев назад

It’s witherhoard but go crazy

@LeastBasedMonikaEnjoyer 10 месяцев назад

Surely the gamer dad's in LFG will take off Thunderlord

@crealiuss 10 месяцев назад

Rockets are better because we have buff stack power creeped. We are making 1 rocket shot do the damage of 3 compared so it effectively increases your total damage to be higher than the bosses health. So insted of being capped at 9-10 rockets in reserves with buffed we effectively have 27-30. If we go pack to the rocket perks we had just 1-2 years ago we couldn’t do nearly the damage. A 35% dmg buff for swapping weapons with a weapon type that encourages swapping. It’s literally just free damage. Rockets should be good for burst dmg not capable of killing every raid boss in seconds.

@AceyWaceyYT 10 месяцев назад

k n o w l e d g e ty aegis ur the best

@SentientMattress531 10 месяцев назад

6:50 Actually, Lasting does buff Wolfpack rounds

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

It buffs the higher number (WP2) on the spreadsheet, but effectively doesn't affect the chunking aspect of the Wolfpacks, which is what I effectively refer to as the Wolfpack damage, as you can see from the results.

@hydractra 10 месяцев назад

A good nerf to rockets would be a reserves nerf. A hefty one too. Like minus 3 to current values

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Ehh that would destroy rockets in GMs etc I don't think that's the way

@mr.rabbit5642 9 месяцев назад

I was leaning into "ok so basically it's the best exotic coz it boosts other players and scales with their weapon perks.. knew that lol" right untill you dropped the "OH BTW IT ALSO MAKES BLUE RLs BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE SO" XD

@MrAddsen 10 месяцев назад

Oh shit, Aegis drop

@thawsomepancakes3615 10 месяцев назад

Thunderlord.....

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Now this is epic

@keenangan6047 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelicman has not been watching your series

@janpaolo8904 5 месяцев назад

3rd chest isn't spawning even though we didn't go back to the orbit or do checkpoints.

@Anything-mp6gx 10 месяцев назад

what’s the fire bolt nade warlock build ?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Not sure what you're referring to

@nervousb206 10 месяцев назад

I can't freaking wait to share this video with lfg teams that want to use acrius on ecthar or linears on Simmumah

@kryolater1331 10 месяцев назад

altough i prefer rockets i understand the acrius bit on ecthar becuause lfgs blow themselves up with rockets like crazy

@crabbit. 10 месяцев назад

Acrius makes sense on Ecthar because he’s right in your face the whole time.

@DescendantV 10 месяцев назад

3x Acrius will yield more consistent 1 phases w/ LFGs on Ecthar

@TitanSkateD2 10 месяцев назад

Pack hunter wouldn’t be the most broken thing in the game if they allowed other weapon archetypes to stack as well as rockets do and get a support exotic like gjally. Since pack hunter is a weapon buff but from another weapon, it can stack with the other weapon buffs like BnS and lead to insane damage since you have 3 weapon perks active at the same time with one being 80% damage bonus with insane add clear and major clearing damage. Rockets are the only archetype that gets buffed this way, and as long as they are the only ones they will stay on top unless they nerf either rockets, patch hunter, or both to the point of redundancy.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

Yeah it's insane rockets get this special treatment but I suppose Gjally's D1 legacy has to live on somehow

@MilkD2 10 месяцев назад

Perfectly balanced.

@dudeydude77_clips 10 месяцев назад

Maybe I’m overthinking this but doesn’t the difference between 4 and 5 wolfpack users mean that it would be better to not use tractor cannon and just go all rockets?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

You can have your Tractor swap and also be Gjally, but no, it's still worth having everyone on the team do 30% more

@filthynormie 10 месяцев назад

Surely this information is still valid in season 22

@--Canon-- 10 месяцев назад

Does your spreadsheet take into account that most LFG groups have people who miss 1 or 2 rockets in a DPS cycle? Joking aside, I do feel like the main reason a lot of people prefer LFRs or TLs with div is because it's guaranteed damage, which feels good vs missing rockets because the boss may be moving, which brings down the dps and they probably won't have the luck of getting heavy bricks in between. I mean, I'm guilty of missing rockets and it feels like shit. Obviously, the boss that just sit there(oryx/taniks) should be 100% rockets, no misses. I'm mainly talking about the ones that move(rhulk/nez/warpriest when the group doesn't dps on the stage).

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

The thing is even if you miss rockets, like say you hit maybe 2 out of every 3, you're still doing much more damage overall if other people are shooting with you

@--Canon-- 10 месяцев назад

@@TheAegisRelic Ah okay, that's good to know. Great videos btw. You put in a lot of work and the results are greatly appreciated.

@mabaxb 10 месяцев назад

Gjallarhorny

@baguette_fresser 10 месяцев назад

can you show us alll the speedkills?

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

That is an idea for a video one day :)

@chaserucker604 10 месяцев назад

I personally feel like rockets as the dps meta is very healthy for the game. Yes they are strong but they also have several major weaknesses Such as limited ammo economy, easiness of self harm, and requiring coordination for maximum damage. I really like how they effect the dps meta, especially since the other heavy weapons still have other uses in the game. They are strong without invalidating every one else.

@TheAegisRelic 10 месяцев назад

They do kind of invalidate other options but I do like them conceptually as a high risk high reward explosive top pick