300 steel is way too expensive imo, but if they make them cheaper later, I hope the robot gets more usefulness; the only positive thing it has right now is the heat resistance against magma (dupes can work in magma with a spacesuit on, but only for a limited time, and ending really hurt) but the most relevant would be the dehydrator (which should really be called a packaging unit) I was wondering if there would be a better way to keep food fresh for longer other than using a -20° handmade freezer, or space food diet only (muckroot or berry sludge). Other ideas usually come from mods, like insulated doors and proper airlock doors (that don't use liquids)
point of note the biobot can build building but much like the rover can only do so for building that require tier 1 research so it is still no better than a rover but its isnt worse
Still, it is pretty useless at this point. Since the only benefit is ability to work with extreme temperatures, but it is necessary only in late game when not having the ability to dig solids and build advanced buildings doesn't cut it. I think bots have to be better than duplicants in more scenarios. I think it would be cool if they were dedicated field workers with lvl2/3 digging and building, so they could almost fully replace dupes in hazardous environments. Or fly/swim or something else.
That’s absurdly expensive. If we had a recharging station for bots, they’d actually be worthwhile. High upfront material cost but longterm you get access to a temp-immune pawn for collecting material & basic mining. Seems good enough at that point.
I'm amazed at how many updates have been added to the game since I first got it, and how many more continue to come out!! Some thoughts: the storage tile seems obsolete other than being used as a sign or in spacecraft, because 1000kg for one tile of space is superseded by the storage bins themselves being 2 tiles tall but storing 20t of material. The changes to critters is incredibly welcome, and encourages smaller, compact ranch building to be viable without exploits (something I've been wanting for a long time). The changes to Pacus are welcome as well. I always thought they ate way too much algae so only ever fed them seeds, and tended to restrict their diet quite harshly. Now you have to interact with them more. More critter interaction is always a plus in my books. I love the dehydrator/rehydrator concept, and it ties in with the astronaut theme of Spaced Out really well. And the database shows food recipes? FINALLY.
I wonder how this happiness mechanic will affect starve ranching pacus, seems like you'd have to split the pacu into several smaller tanks so that they don't get the -100% reproduction
Usually you have a breeder tank and an evolution tank, you keep the breeders happy, and you don't care about the evolution tank, because the pacus in there just need to evolve into their final state. So no change there.
@@vlgi the starving pacu reproduce once even when not tended, assuming they have enough space(not liquid), so they used to keep population. The breeder tank being used just to increase population
@@vlgi before update evolution pacu can keep their number indefinitely so need in breeders was only temporary. After update there will be permanent breeder tank and an egg-cracker
Finally, i can have my dupe's pet pip in their room without it being upset all the time from being tamed! Also am i the only one thats a bit iffy about how that storage tile looks?
As far as I know, there is no other way to produce raw Genetic Ooze in the game. Sadly, it can't be used for anything. I think that this part is going to be changed. Either the Biobot will drop something else, or we'll get a use for it.
No comment on the biobot yet cuz it's clearly still WIP and it still uses rover logic, but love the idea of using zombie spores for something. Dried food for space is a nice idea, just worry about the rehydrating cost, if it uses too much water then it's still not too much use. Love the storage tile turning from a mod idea to a legit game mechanics, now I can colonize a planet and don't have to worry that oh shit moment when you discovered that you forgot to bring plastic for the steam turbine. Would be nice if that works on liquid too, like I can pack 1000kg of naptha into a rocket and have it ready all the time, that would be extremely useful.
You can deconstruct a full liquid tank and it will drop the liquid inside a water bottle, which you can move around and empty it out whenever you need it
@@fruity4820 yup but there are times where dupes will pick things from inside the rockets to use if it's not in a dedicated storage, I have multiple times where I landed on a new planet and then discovered that my dupes used all the plastic I dropped inside the rocket because I use only one storage bin and changing the accepeted materials to drop things inside.
On Steam, if you update the game, mods will crash. If you don't update the game, mods will update and then crash. Probably there's a way to stop updates for both game and mods, I'll have to look for that
I'm willing to bet they haven't introduced all the capabilities of the biopod. Surely, they wouldn't make it so hard to obtain for so little reward. Also that ranching stuff is a game changer... can we set up tame ranches that will replace themselves indefinitely?
Yes this is still the testing branch and they are open for suggestions and feedback. Which is why i included that. Some of the discord already posted suggestions on the klei forum. As for the ranches that is up for testing. Each time they change stuff like that it need either a change in ranch design or other shenanigans
Great video! The update is awesome too, i feel like klei are making updates to give purpose to everything. The biobot may be a way to make medics do something useful in the base for instance. Also a use for sporechild, etc. The critters updates we had recently are quite interesting and will make ranching all the more interesting!
Is the base game lag less than dlc in late game? I've been playing only dlc since it release. Or any viable reduce lag method that you guys think it works. I've tried those thing on reddit post but maybe I've miss some so any idea is fine. I dont have reddit acc so here I am lol.
Bot sure there is a difference. Base game maps are larger but dlc has more planets (that basically are the same map). Lag reduction (not to be confused with fps improvement) can be archieved by: -reducing pathfinding for dupes and critters (remove access to old ladder system, or tile everything in, build critter ranches that limit movement) -reduce temperature calculations (out debris in storages or a 1 tile storage) -reduce liquid calculations store all liquids in either pure infinite storages or tanks. Never mix liquids -same for gases, vacuum is better for calculation. Maybe even better than tiling everything in. unclear -"remove" unnecessary dupes and critter -less piping With all that your game will calculate faster again. Which can still have low fps but it runs smoother. meaning dupes don't wait half a cycle before moving to their task but everything above cycle 1000 or 2000 gets laggy anyways. Not sure why later cycles handle data or how that is programmed but save files with many cycles are slower
i hope they revert the meter changes. many of my designs are based upon fractioning solid rail cargo and i have the feeling having several pieces flickering on and off constantly will slow my potato pc even further
=ABOUT PACU TO EAT WHOLE SEEDS................. *_DAMN THAT STINGS AGAIN_* ......BUT AT LEAST SPICE GRINDER CAN GIVE US A CHANCE OF GETTING A BASE FOR SEED DUPLICATION.................. ..........BUT IF SPICE GRINDER IS ONLY OPTION THEN IT'LL STING SO *MUCH* =!!!!!!..........
@@Luma_plays ....IT WORKS BUT INITIAL SPLITTING I'M SPEAKING ABOUT ............LIKE U NEED TO GET A 400g SEED TO START WITH, RIGHT?????..........SO IT IS "GET PACU TO NIBBLE A SEED" , RIGHT????....... ....SO U VE GOTTEN ME WRONG ABOUT WHAT I POINTED ABOUT WHAT A "BASE" DOES MEAN............. .....AND ABOUT STORAGE BIN.....YEAH I KNOW HOW TO DUPLICATE MATRIX...........AND IT IS NOT THE BASE.......!!!......REWIND YOUR OWN......*HOW TO" ...AND U VE SAID THERE "TO START WITH, GET A PACU TO NIBBLE A SEED"....RIGHT????....... .....BY THE WAY, LOTS OF STUFF DOESNT PASS THROU CONVEYOR METER, THO .......IF IT SET LESS THAN 1 UNIT........... BUT FOOD DOESNT OBEY THAT RULE BUT IT IS A NO WAY TO STORE A FOOD IN STORAGE BIN, RIGHT????............
@@robotnikkkk001 No i said it was A option. in the same video i show more methods. Check it out again for more infos. You could (at that time )easily split a seed by placing anything below 1kg in a storage bin. then set the bin to 1kg. put a seed inside the bin. And you got yourself a split seed. Not sure if it still works. How do you get anything below 1kg? the meter valve, the table salt rock crusher or other methods Food doesn't go in storage bins and seeds don't go in refrigerators so that probably won't work. In short. I think the easiest method is crushing some table salt and using the bin method
@@Luma_plays ......... AHHH YESSSS I'VE FORGOT..... *_EGG SHELLS FROM SHINE BUGS!!!!!_* ........I EVEN WROTE GUIDE AT STEAM TO NOT FORGET HOW DUPE SEEDS, HEHE ...... .......SO SCREW PACU METHOD INDEED, HEHEHEHE .............. ........ AND STILL, THAT U WAS ABOUT NOT MENTIONING THAT ABOUT SHINE BUG EGG SHELLS IS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING .......... AND I MADE MY OWN SEMI AUTO SETUP ABOUT JUST 2 FARM TILES, AUTO SWEEPERS, 1 BIN AND 2 CONVEYOR LOADERS, HEHE......... SO DUPES ARE UPROOTING AND U DO PLANTING, BUT IT'S QUITE SIMPLE RELIABLE AND REPEATABLE, HEHEHE............
honestly this update is much weaker than previous updates aside from the critter features and the storage tile, We need more functionality for elements and more refinement and energy type buildings and recreational buildings and furniture
I am currently testing how it affects those starvation ranches and infinite farms. When i got the time i make a short video about what still works and what might not
Shame the bio bot is so temporary. I was hoping it would be a permanent dupe like the hermit, with its special ability being heat, cold, and rad immunity.
@@medusalem9485I’ll admit I’m a bit tired, spaced and forgot shove voles are coded to never get cramped, that shouldn’t have changed no. But I thought Pacu cared about the size of the liquid pool, NOT the room? I’m away from my PC and can’t double check, but I’m pretty sure the single pacu tile won’t work any more.
So, I wonder if Devs now regret deep freeze. Klei are wonderful devs, but they have a problem with not thinking things through. Microwave was cut from DLC and simple deep freeze was added. The existance of deep freeze makes dehydrater almost pointless in the base game. This would have been such a great way of encouraging people to go for higher tier foods.
=ABOUT STORAGE TILES........HMMPHH.......... 1t/TILE AGAINST 10t/TILE AGAINST DUMP ON FLOOR...... *_HMMMMM_* ..... =INDEED ABOUT NOT NEEDED..................
@@AdamC169 ...HMMMPH IF I WOULD I WOULD VE DID LIKE *_THAT_* , THO ....................AND PLZZ BACK OFF IF THAT S THE MOST INTELLECTUAL THING U R ABLE TO PRODUCE
@@robotnikkkk001 There is a button to the left of the "A" key. you press it, then it stops people on the internet thinking you're shouting. I'm assuming english isn't your first language.
