Paddle Experiment: How Lead Tape Affects the Twistweight and Stability of a Pickleball Paddle

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Players will often tell you that adding lead tape will increase the stability and forgiveness of your paddle. But does it really? And if so, by how much? Watch and find out.
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00:00 Intro
01:33 Testing the CRBN 3X 16mm
02:28 Testing the CRBN 3X 14mm
03:40 Results
05:06 Conclusion
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@KO1967 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for doing this. Here is my big takeaway. 16mm is considered more plush/stable over a 14mm paddle. But you can take a 14mm (which is .3 ounces lighter for the 3X according to your spreadsheet) add .35 ounces of lead tape to get essentially the same weight / swing weight as the 16mm but have better stability by increasing the 14mm twist weight to 7.06-7.39 over the stock 16mm twist weight of 6.71.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Yes, I didn’t think of it that way. Good insight.

@DaveLL500 10 месяцев назад

This technical analysis perfectly supports the way I customized my paddles for added control. Appreciate your efforts Braydon.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Nice!

@sashagirl357 10 месяцев назад

Wow, this is really helpful info. Great to see the effects of placing the tape in different locations and the diminishing returns of adding 20g vs 10g. I have been playing with 5g lead on the bottom corners and now I will move them more toward the middle and add another 5g to each side now! Thank you!

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

I’m glad it helped! I’m going to start doing the same thing and move my weight more towards the sides rather than closer to the handle like I’ve been doing.

@mikemiller724 10 месяцев назад

Oh I should say, great video as I never understood what twist weight was. Thanks!

@michaelbitner9910 9 месяцев назад

That was super information. Thanks for taking the time to run that testing and share the results. Saves much trial and error for the rest of us!

@pickleballeffect 9 месяцев назад

I’m glad you liked it! This was an interesting one.

@brucemark 10 месяцев назад

Super interesting! Thanks for doing this! Great job explaining twist weight in simple (enough for me ;)) terms.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@dantran671 10 месяцев назад

Finally, some one does a video for this! Thank you, for you doing this. I was always curious how much lead tape actually helped out.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@dantran671 10 месяцев назад

If you are able to, could you see how even though twist weight increased, how much does it increase swing weight? Or upload the results?@@pickleballeffect

@davehansen1169 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for all of your hard work. Great, informative videos.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

You’re welcome, I have a lot of fun doing it. Thanks for watching :)

@richardnadeau7882 8 месяцев назад

Great experiment. Empirical evidence is always the most reliable measure of any paddle metric.

@pickleballeffect 8 месяцев назад

I’ve been loving this machine ha

@gao57009 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for this video. Just what I was looking for. It's good to put some numbers to the various weight locations.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

You bet!

@jimwaldemarsen472 10 месяцев назад

Braydon what a great video. It really shows what lead tape actually does to the twist rate in those spots. What would be nice to add to that spread sheet was starting swing weight then what the swing weight was with the 10g and 20g of lead tape. All this takes the guess work out of cause and effect of lead tape placement. Awesome loving your spread sheet.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

That’s a good idea. I’ve done this experiment for Swingweight and Twistweight separately. Now we need to combine them to find the best combination.

@timvandenakker2247 10 месяцев назад

Following Looking forwarded to the blended test of both

@ddyoder 8 месяцев назад

@@pickleballeffect yes definitely would love to see the combo vid of swingweight & twistweight --- i've added lead to bottom and side of my SixZero 16mm DBD and I love it-- though I know it's increased the swingweight and would love to get an idea of the rough % it likely increased

@pickleballeffect 8 месяцев назад

@@ddyoder ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7omZPi69xtI.htmlsi=qUGxPGwxpnGSocKA

@chasyboy1 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for doing this test. I've always wondered what impact it would have.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Very welcome

@jaycohen5482 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Brandon for the hard work.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

You’re welcome, I really enjoy it!

@ocelotarmory 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for an real test.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching, I’m glad you liked it.

@brianbanks3044 10 месяцев назад

this is the kind of information that really proves the numbers and the effects of the tape...I never have used tape but I can see how it can affect aspects of the paddle....i get tapes from my old shop that they use for balancing tires, I wonder if the STEEL instead of the lead tape makes a difference since it is spread out more even though the weight is the same...lead is denser than steel so a half ounce of lead is a smaller piece than a half ounce of steel....not a big fan of lead from a health point of view...the steel weights are stick on also so it is just as effective but just spreads out the weight a bit more

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

That’s another experiment I want to look at. Spreading the weight out vs more concentrated weight.

@par4molly 10 месяцев назад

Great informative video:)

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching, I’m glad you liked it.

@fratersol 4 дня назад

How does it affect your swing rate at the same time

@ocelotarmory 10 месяцев назад

@pickleballeffect LOVE the pod too.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Oh good ha I’m very self conscious about the pod right now so I’m glad to hear some positive feedback.

@ocelotarmory 10 месяцев назад

The only feedback I would give is make sure your mic is a little louder than logan's, because your voice is quieter and it sounds a little funny to hear you talk in a normal voice and than logan starts talking in a way louder voice, that it a little distracting. Otherwise, it is easily on par with the competition. @@pickleballeffect

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

@@ocelotarmory I agree, I noticed that too. I got a new mic and have been messing with the settings but don’t have it dialed in yet. I think I fixed it though ha so it should be better for the next one.

@christophepaquot3562 10 месяцев назад

Great video! You should've measured the swing weight difference as well

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, I’ve had a few comments with the same suggestion. I’ll do that for my next one.

@scottharrison3917 10 месяцев назад

Would like to see this and swing weight tested in unison.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Several comments mentioned that too, I’ll do that next. Thanks for sharing the idea.

@MonsterFishingTackle 3 месяца назад

Why would you do the bottom corners with 20g when the obvious answer is middle of the paddle with more weight would be the highest TW number

@jasonchen2107 10 месяцев назад

Amazing Video!!! I'd be curious to see up paddle weight up to 8.7 oz and then adding lead tape in different locations if possible. The effects on swing and twist weight. Zane Navratil and Ben Johns has videos on where they put their lead tape. I'm just curious how those locations/lead tape amounts i.e. doubling up on middle + single on bottom(near handle) might affect the paddle. Obviously, everyone's play style/comfortable max paddle weight is different, but I'd be very curious to figure out "optimal" maxed out specs. P.S. does anyone know what pro womens, weigh their paddles up to? It seems mens typically range from 8.3-8.7oz

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I can’t do every possible combination but it would be fun to mimic a few setups from pros and see how it changes things. I do want to do a video on the optimal set up now that I’ve done a few of these experiments. I’ll do that next.

@jasonchen2107 10 месяцев назад

@@pickleballeffect Totally understandable hahah, you're not my employee or anything, just a few ideas hahah. Anyways though, awesome video+quality+information!!!

@amandabarnard1344 9 месяцев назад

What if you put lead tape in all four corners?

@douglasmurdoch7247 10 месяцев назад

With that type of tape the weight is more spread out and diffused. Is it different if you use the precut 3g strips that are popular? Does it make a difference if all that weight is more concentrated into a smaller area with those precut strips?

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Oh, idk. That’s another one I should test

@terogan 10 месяцев назад

Someone onCO’s discord said adding lead tape to the hole in the Vatic Alchemy noticeably increased twist weight. Makes no sense to me since it’s on axis (unless they just did the corners of the hole). Can you grab one of your paddles with a throat hole and run it stock and then with a strip of lead only on the lower part of the throat hole? The person used 2.5 grams of tungsten tape so imagine it was a longer piece than it would be with lead.

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me either ha. I'm out of town today but will try it out in the next couple of days and report.

@terogan 10 месяцев назад

@@pickleballeffect Thank you. I know it’s a pain. But science. 🙄

@timvandenakker2247 10 месяцев назад

What is the machine you are using to test the twist rate with the different lead locations? How is that hooked so you can see the readings

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

It’s called the Briffidi SW1. You use it in conjunction with your phone to get the readings.

@NPD2024 3 месяца назад

Would placing lead tape around the entire paddle do anything other than making the paddle heavier? Do you have to pick spots for lead tape to make the sweet spot larger with more plow through?

@pickleballeffect 3 месяца назад

If you did that then you'd still get the benefits of the added forgiveness and plow through. You just need to pick spots if you don't want the paddle to get too heavy on you.

@grantbrown6502 10 месяцев назад

I'm a dummie when it comes to this, but the idea is to increase stability so that hitting off-center balls can be a little easier and provide more control and a better shot? My thinking is, why not put lead tape on just 1 side of the paddle? Specifically the side facing down when I hold it. My grip is similar to ping pong with my index finger extended onto the bottom of the paddle face. If there is more weight and stability at the bottom, I would think this would create a more solid hold on the shot impact. Maybe this is a dumb idea but worth thinking through. Thoughts?

@pickleballeffect 10 месяцев назад

I'm not sure I understand. You are thinking it might better to only put lead tape on one side of the paddle?

@grantbrown6502 10 месяцев назад

@@pickleballeffect just a thought, I have no idea if it even makes sense to do so. My thinking is more weight on the bottom side would be more stable. Has anyone ever tried this??