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Pagani Design PD-1701 V3. Speedmaster Homage. An Honest Review. A good Moonswatch alternative? 

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@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire Год назад
Just ordered one during the AliExpress anniversary sale. With discounts, it was less than $70 USD. Can't wait to get it in the post!
@suheilkaspar8885
@suheilkaspar8885 11 месяцев назад
I don't agree that the hands are big. I think Pagani did a great job regarding the hands size in this watch, even better than the original Omega's when it comes to proportion and legibility. The watch is very good for the price, but it's definitely not for small wrists.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for voicing your opinion. They all count :)
@TheVisserthree
@TheVisserthree 9 месяцев назад
Comparing this to Moonswatch seems like an insult imho. Case of stainless steel, sapphire glass, Seiko quartz chronograph movement and it does not tick like an alarm. Better, more affordable and available.
@gregjarvis3288
@gregjarvis3288 Год назад
This is a great watch for the price. Far better than the plastic, non maintainable, overpriced moonswatch. I love mine always looks sharp on the wrist. Didn't they give you a NATO strap?
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Yep...as shown at the beginning of the video. It too was a monstrosity haha. Seems I keep getting Pagani Lemons!
@TC-bj8pu
@TC-bj8pu 2 месяца назад
Great watch for $80. Really pays tribute to a Speedy. The Seiko movement is really good. I lose about one second over 17 days.
@drgeek100
@drgeek100 8 месяцев назад
You are not being fair in your review, you are acting like you paid $5000 for this watch.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 8 месяцев назад
I am not an actor. So let me get this straight. You walk into a shop and ask the assistant for a watch you can buy for £70 that has a bracelet you cannot use or resize when next to it you can buy a g shock, a Casio Edifice a Timex , a Lorus, a Pulsar that all function perfectly. You are missing the point. When you buy a homage of an iconic watch you want to have it on the iconic bracelet, not have it stuck in a drawer. I buy hundreds of watches, and time and again Pagani produce a brilliant watch followed by three that are just pants. They continue to do this when all others move on.
@omegawatchfan
@omegawatchfan Год назад
Appreciate your honest review. Sharp edges are a big problem with these homages and even with watches from the major brands too nowadays.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Thanks for watching and your comment...remember to subscribe! ;)
@asmradiseb6238
@asmradiseb6238 Год назад
You mate chill for a under 100 pound whatch nothing beats this wathch
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
As long as YOU think that then it's up to you but I can think of quite a few :)
@user-of1qo3zt5s
@user-of1qo3zt5s 9 месяцев назад
Even cheaper now. Bought it for 55 euros during the Ali express sale.
@drgeek100
@drgeek100 5 месяцев назад
@@johnswatchjoint I'd like to hear it.
@ivoshandor6859
@ivoshandor6859 8 месяцев назад
That particular Bond NATO strap is a copy of the one Sean Connery wore in Goldfinger.
@UNLISTEDWEB
@UNLISTEDWEB 9 дней назад
BE AWARE OF VARIATIONS IN 1701 V3 LINE! Pagani Design have change bezel and removed dots around 12 o'clock to make it less of a carbon copy. You are lucky to have the BEST 1701 V3 with accurate bezel and dots😊
@UNLISTEDWEB
@UNLISTEDWEB 9 дней назад
I personally would not be comfortable taking PD 1701 watch off my wrist for show and tell. I have no problem wearing MoonSwatch with Omega and Speedmaster brandings. If you want Moonwatch that is better than MoonSwatch than look at Bulova Lunar Pilot (2nd watch on the moon)
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 9 дней назад
Oh dear. There are many who would disagree. The MoonSwatch debacle has left many miffed as they are VERY poor.
@nothezza
@nothezza Год назад
Good review! I've finally placed an order for one and can't wait to see it in person as I am a big fan of ceramic bezels. This will also be my first chronograph. I am curious and cannot find an explanation online as to what "1701" signifies, could you please explain? Thanks!
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Hi there....I believe it is in reference to the Starship Enterprise. The number on the top of the helm of the ship ;)
@nothezza
@nothezza Год назад
@@johnswatchjoint That's neat! Thanks for sharing.
@YNGWIE998
@YNGWIE998 11 месяцев назад
@@johnswatchjoint Ha ha, subliminal marketing aimed at Trekkies!
@fontyyy
@fontyyy 8 месяцев назад
It is as you say a chunky boy, but that's only cause the Speedy itself is, it's exactly the same size as an Omega Speedmaster, it could be loads thinner, that mech in tiny.
@simodubajic5911
@simodubajic5911 4 месяца назад
Bracelet is not too thick, just should be a little better finish and tighter tolerances between links.😊
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 4 месяца назад
What you said AND it's too thick ;). The newer versions are better.
@mr_bisley
@mr_bisley 2 года назад
Yeah, gotta say, the cons seem to outweigh the positive on this one. I do however would prefer a badly implemented date window to no date window at all. It's one complication i'd rather not do without as it's very useful and convenient to have and I'm so used to having it, it's always startling to not find it there whenever I put my weekender on.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
I love a date window also but on this one I found the face just over-cluttered...but that is only my opinion. Thank you so much for your comment and keep watching :)
@mr_bisley
@mr_bisley 2 года назад
@@johnswatchjoint I mean, I get it, but at least it's colour-matched. 😄 But in all seriousness, putting a date on a homage of a watch that didn't have it feels like it's just feature packing to make a homage seem like a more appealing product, then a conscious design decision. 🤔 That said, I find all chronos over-cluttered and hard to read (for me at least) and I guess I just don't like this type of watch. I have a Seiko chrono and I've never used it for it's "intended" purpose. I find a timing bezel to be absolutely enough in most cases and in cases where more precision needed i'd rather use a chrono function on a digital Casio or on my trusty old Timex T45181, which coincidently has both options. 😄
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
@@mr_bisley Chronographs are not usually on my radar either but I did wear one for nearly six years in the late eighties on...an Accurist with white dial, three blue subdials and gold highlights....and I wasn't even taking drugs haha! Watch collecting makes us do strange things :)
@mr_bisley
@mr_bisley 2 года назад
@@johnswatchjoint well, I can actually imagine it working out pretty nicely, lol.
@johnsweeney5946
@johnsweeney5946 2 года назад
On Amazon in the questions section of this watch, they indicate that it is available without a date window. They have a difficult (for me) to use link for this model. I can find no option for this anywhere. What can you tell me?
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
Hi there. The watch is available in different colourways. The black ones I believe all have date function. Other colours seem to have the option without. Looking at Amazon prices they are very steep so shop around :)
@tedblack2415
@tedblack2415 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed your jollies , now the watch .. hmm ,had considered it but hate seeing the "PD script " the logo i can live with & i like the look of the bracelet but seeing this ..it ain't great plus it wears a tad larger than expected however was impressed with the lume from the cupboard of doom for a pd😊gotta love that (a channel mainstay me thinks ) .Good review ,its a maybe not for me but still better quality & value than a certain you know who (s)watch .
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
Haha...thanks! please remember that my opinions are just that. I try to be as balanced as possible and had an open mind on this one given some good reviews, but having seen this watch it was hard to be positive overall...but remember, most of my angst was on the bracelet! John :)
@1a2b3c4.
@1a2b3c4. 8 месяцев назад
Mine doesn't have a date window.
@bidipbo
@bidipbo 9 месяцев назад
I have two iterations of this watch, both are V3 (at least). One is the AK Project homage and the other PD-1701A rose gold panda. Neither of mine feature a date window. I vehemently disagree with your assessment of the bracelet. This is - BY FAR - the best PD bracelet ever produced. All of the company's bracelets have felt cheap and jangly, like a 20EUR replica purchased on the beaches of Marbella. I currently own five Pagani Design watches and have held others.This five link bracelet is a thing of craftsmanship and beauty. Again, I have two examples and both of them are great. I would say that the edges of my AKP version are more severe than the rose gold, but even then, it wears like a dream on wrist. I wear these very infrequently. Consequently, if there were any discomfort, I would know straight away. To complain about the thickness of a PD bracelet is rich, considering they are famous for cheap bracelets, smh. I am also pleased with the substance of the watch: bracelet, clasp and case. The wearing experience removes any idea that you are wearing a cheap replica or homage. The PD clasp is glorious when compared to other AE brands. Could they lose the diver's extension? Definitely. I searched both that I have for the crude finishing or fitment that you highlighted. I was unsuccessful to discover any complaint. I do see a bit of a difference in the end link and the lugs of the AKP, but it is minor for a man that is anally retentive, such as I am. You moaned about the case thickness too, which I thought was a reach. You do realise that the Omega is 13.18mm versus the PD-1701 is 13.8, right? It is a chronograph! .62 mm - really? I was disappointed to hear this review from you, because my recollection is that you tend to review what you like and resultantly, we hear the same positive impressions. To me, it seemed like the brand upsets you in some way and it was reflected in this review. Alternatively, you were sent a piece of shit - now why would they do that? Because frankly, you were reaching to find something wrong and every niggle was insignificant. This doesn't change my opinion of your content, I'm just disappointed that you were disappointed, because Pagani Design have produced the finest homage to the Speedmaster, for the price, that exists.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for your opinion which is welcome and reflects your experiences. They do not mirror mine. I no longer review PD watches as I can no longer heartily recommend them. Out of the few issues I have had on AliExpress, PD are the brand that consistently fall way short, with watches broken on arrival, poor QC and mainly broken bracelet mechanisms. Of course these are my experiences and it would be awful if I recommended their watches just because they have sent a free one regardless of quality. I cannot account for your feelings as you obviously disagree. That's OK but your experience is not my experience and I will always be honest in my assessment. My reputation rests on that. If you want to insult me then that is your choice but I will simply hand your worded gift back so you can use it on someone else. Best regards
@bidipbo
@bidipbo 9 месяцев назад
@@johnswatchjoint No insults from me, John. As I said, I am just disappointed that you are. I don't consider my luck to be any better than anyone else's. Of the five PDs that I own, only one disappointed me, but not because of the quality or workmanship, but due to the version change that swapped one crystal type for another - without informing its buyers. I guess I have been lucky, given your experience and that of others. After watching your vid, I went down a rabbit hole of recommended vids that featured problems other reviewers have had with their PDs. Oh well, we can have a laugh about all of this, because one day these watch brands will have sorted their QC issues and ours will be esteemed examples of the brands' salad days, when they cut corners and made mistakes. It is likely that holding on to these watches will reward us with ROI.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 9 месяцев назад
I am glad that this discussion did not disintegrate into a full blown argument as is so often the case. I started this as a hobby 15 months ago but because of my enthusiasm for watches it has now started to be more than that. I value people's opinions absolutely but there are so many closed off people out there who are not capable of reasoning. Since the beginning of the year I have been on the radar for more brands who offer me watches. Not all are accepted and not all that send me a watch get a good review. I have to be honest. Even If I have my favourites due to handling many of their watches, they still don't get off the hook. San Martin just won't send me a watch simply because I call them out for the raft of QC issues of late. Baltany were the darlings last year but I still give them a hard time as this year they haven't quite held on to the quality of before. I am honest and consistent and sometimes people see their watch being given a bad review as an insult. It is not. I am really happy if they get a good one. Of course I am...but I can only review what I have at my fingertips. I hope you continue watching. All the best. John :)
@rafaelmtoledo
@rafaelmtoledo Год назад
You are reviewing it as if this watch was over $2000 🤣
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Nope...just as a poor watch that I would not buy in a shop given its flaws
@rafaelmtoledo
@rafaelmtoledo Год назад
@@johnswatchjoint it is better than the swatch moonswatch that costs 3x more.
@ianclarke1683
@ianclarke1683 10 месяцев назад
Wish PD made a reduced 38mm version of this, my guess it would be a huge hit
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 10 месяцев назад
I agree with you. It wears a bit like a dinner plate!
@mayorofrlyeh8042
@mayorofrlyeh8042 2 года назад
What's your wrist size? I heard the bracelet cannot be sized up to smaller wrists as not enough links can be removed - is that true? I got a 6 and a half inch wrist.
@mayorofrlyeh8042
@mayorofrlyeh8042 2 года назад
Ah, you answered it later in the video...haha! Thanks!
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
@@mayorofrlyeh8042 at 6.5inch you should be ok but the bracelet is pretty awful anyway :)
@mayorofrlyeh8042
@mayorofrlyeh8042 2 года назад
@@johnswatchjoint I see some stores are also offering it with a sail cloth strap now (black with white stitching), will probably get that one then. Thanks for the quick reply and best of luck with the channel!
@Trex100
@Trex100 2 года назад
Good review. Thanks
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@mikeellis4345
@mikeellis4345 Год назад
I have the same watch. I immediately took the nasty stainless steel bracelet off ( too sharp on edges ughhh ) and put on a bland black& blue seat belt style nato. Much better! Goes well with the blue AR Sapphire crystal. Hasn’t missed a beat after I set the time. Like it !
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
The head is done well...good call binning that carbuncle of a bracelet! ;)
@edchristie4839
@edchristie4839 Год назад
Value for money? Great! Chunky 🤣😂 I think it’s a great sized watch and love the bezel especially for the price, I’m Scot’s and boy you can moan!
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Merry Christmas to you too!
@edchristie4839
@edchristie4839 Год назад
@@johnswatchjoint 😂🤣👍🎁🎊
@dgrantreiter
@dgrantreiter 2 года назад
The bracelet sucks on this Pagani, I've owned 2.. Go for the newest sailcloth versions or change it out to anything else of your own choosing
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
At last...someone who agrees. Had a lot of bile on this review which have had to delete. I always try to remain fair and honest but this particular watch, especially the bracelet, was well below par. If Tandorio and Baltany can produce high quality for budget money, why can't Pagani? Giving them another chance with 2 more designs coming in to see if this was an abhorrence! Thanks for the comment.
@robertswan6567
@robertswan6567 3 месяца назад
Honest but very picky review.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 3 месяца назад
Can't be both....🤗
@garysimon2966
@garysimon2966 Год назад
Sharp edges belong on knives and shavers. Deal-breaker for me.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
I looked back at that video to see if I was too harsh ..but honestly I wasn't :( Thanks for watching.
@jaysterling26
@jaysterling26 2 года назад
Sir, I'm going to send you £80 ..)OK..£20(?) ) as you've saved me that for dissuading me about this watch ( I have the same size wrist). I'll stick with my dan henry evil niña & a shiny blue Seiko chronograph that Oleg ( 24 hours at a time) dazzled me with. Cheers.
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 2 года назад
The Evil Panda is a perfect size. Had mine for a year and loved it. Thanks for watching :)
@52dislikes
@52dislikes 7 месяцев назад
Actually, I think it's a great watch and fits me well.
@tbx59
@tbx59 9 месяцев назад
I have never been able to understand what people look for in a Nato strap - dude says that one is 'bletch' but they are all levels of gaudiness
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 9 месяцев назад
Ah OK.... We shall all change our opinion to yours shall we?
@johndobbs300
@johndobbs300 Год назад
This is not better than a original moonwatch. Your review started with the poor quality and bad finishing- come on now 😂
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Erm did I say it was better than the moon's watch? Everyone else said it was...I disagreed. Watch it again and pay attention this time. I shall give you 100 lines. Please pay attention in class!
@rickhammel9541
@rickhammel9541 Год назад
where did he say it was better? pay attention John!
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Haha 😆
@hendrikesche9836
@hendrikesche9836 14 дней назад
Bla bla bla. By an Omega. This is a 80 Euro Watch, what you expected?
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint 14 дней назад
I review watches for ALL watch enthusiasts...not just those who turn their noses up at these pieces.
@christianwood8772
@christianwood8772 Год назад
Wtf is going on? It's a watch that is less than a hundred pounds 🤯🤯
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Hi Mr shopkeeper. I have £100 to spend on a watch with the worst bracelet in the world. Mr shopkeeper smiles to himself....I have just the thing for you.....
@samrodriguez9864
@samrodriguez9864 Год назад
At least u got an extra strap! I did not lol
@johnswatchjoint
@johnswatchjoint Год назад
Yeah but did you see it?...yuck haha:)
@marcsrel4mpn
@marcsrel4mpn Год назад
The extra nato strap you got wasn't great looking unlike the previous 2 stripes gray I got from the version 2 I had the watch dipped swimming for almost a year
@franklinbishop6272
@franklinbishop6272 2 года назад
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