It's Paige's way or the highway basically. Craig has to do whats best for his life and make difficult decisions. "It'll be on my timeline' does not say compromise.
It’s time for Craig to move on if he wants a family. If he waits for Paige he’s just wasting his time. Wake up man. This is from an 80 yr old lady. If you stay with Paige you’re going to have a lot of regret
Why would Craig ask her to move in? She has made it clear several times she's not ready. I think its time for Craig to move on!.... i would of dumped her long ago!
Craig and Paige would not be in a relationship if Southern Charm and Summer House poofed from existence tomorrow. She needs to stop stringing him along.
He needs to walk away. He must have a thing for women treating him badly or he doesn't want to be serious either. Remember how Naomie treated him? I actually felt sad for him.
amen. thank you for stating the obvious! individually neither of them have any redeeming qualities. they need each other to be bravo relevant; see Paige and Craig getting married next summer 2025 only by Bravo.
Oh my gosh, I have been such a Paige fan until now. How on earth can she be so incredibly self-centered? She is openly saying that she doesn't give a crap about Craig wants or needs. She thinks turning him into the man she wants is showing him love? She ignores the things he clearly communicates that he needs from her and takes credit for his personal growth? RUN CRAIG RUN! It pains me to say it, but he is clearly wasting his time with her.
I normally love Paige but she just sounds self-involved and frankly immensely immature here. Craig has every right to care about how old he is when he has a baby and also, anyone who has had children knows that HIS life will change too once the baby arrives. When a mother and father are partners in raising a kid BOTH of their lives change. She also just sounds so disrespectful of him here. It is not a good look.
I haven't liked Paige since I've seen her mean girl tendencies a long time ago and was hoping she would leave the show. I feel she's been disrespectful to Craig for awhile. When he was talking about putting a hot tub in at his house she squashed it saying she gets UTIs, yet she had her butt in the camera while in a hot tub making out with an Italian model!
If Craig hasnt asked her to move in its because she is basically telling him all of the time not to...that shes not ready. She acts so smug and entitled. We have also all witnessed him telling her he would like her to move in or get engaged etc. She is the one shutting him down. She is super disrespectful to Craig...
I agree 100 per cent. She is unbelievably selfish and really believes that her wants and needs are all that matter. Craig deserves someone who wants and knows how to have a two way relationship.
She seems hardened to me and rather mean. Almost like she thinks she is too good for the rest of us. I am not liking her for Craig as they are not on the same page.
F that and F you. The Craig y’all know and love today would be nothing without Paige. If she was pressuring him to get married and have kids asap you’re the same stupid people that would say she’s trying to trap him.
Talk about deflecting. Didn’t Craig bring up the idea of proposing and of Paige moving in only to be shut down. Tears of manipulation! Fair enough you decide when you want children, but to be fair, he may change his mind about ever wanting to have children. Or, he may decide to have children with someone else. We all have choices. After all who was getting jealous when Craig was dating freely with various women? Now that you’ve locked him in, you’re kind of getting cocky and calling all the shots. Interesting, is this what women call discussing issues? I get it, as long as it goes all your own way all the time. Missy, don’t get too cocky, Craig also has options and can make his own decisions of what he wants and when he wants it. He may let you have your way for the time being, but a time will come when he will decide if he’s had enough of your controlling behaviour. Sorry, just calling as I see it.
Women should always have control of their man’s balls . She’s doing the right thing . Men play games and control narrative in our 20s so in our 30s when they need us for babies they are on best behavior - I’m tired of men asking for babies they have no idea what’s entailed or the work that does into it . He can wait untill she’s ready too bad
I think Craig deserves better than Paige. He has been clear from the start about what he wants and it seems like she is just leading him on. Having babies is something that should be planned for, what the hell is she talking about.
She seems very certain about her wants and needs and how her life needs to be but then on the other hand apparently doesn't know how anything looks for her. It's BS and Craig needs to cut his losses at this point. She can be nice but at the end of the day she's one of the most "me, myself and I" people I've ever come across. She even admits she's slow on emotions and affection. Possibly something more going on there.
I said it long ago they're not meant for each other. She's not honoring what he wants at all, by keeping him hanging on. You're saying he's not asking you but when he brought it up you started crying saying you would miss your mother. Your deflecting and blaming him.
I find it absolutely disrespectful that a man is now allowed to have a timeline and a woman is. If the guy is telling you what's important to him, why is it okay to be so dismissive.
Exactly. She's so entitled and sure of her selfishness at this point that she completely lacks insight. Her face when Danielle said she was giving Craig nothing was a picture.
@@napperforlife2020 That doesn't mean they shouldn't BOTH come to an acceptable compromise. If they're not on the same page, and one reader is chapters behind, then it's, "Adios, Mexico . . ." (Texas Tornadoes). Paige admitted she doesn't go with the flow whereas Craig does (to the best of his ability and tolerance, and probably beyond). To us old fks, it's known as "two ships passing in the night." Or it might as well be. Bittersweet but better to be free for a mutually satisfying, simpatico relationship.
He could have 20 women in one second ! Gorgeous, now successful and a sweetheart, one of a kind. I feel so bad for him staying with her but I think he's coming around but just needs to be a clean break. Craig could get 100s of women immediately and Paige could get a couple dates.
Paige makes Craig feel insecure. He is constantly asking her if she loves him.......... Sad! You shouldn't have to keep asking the person you are in a relationship with if they love you.
I dont think she wants to talk about kids with Craig because it will really mean setting down a timeline and figuring out if she will leave New York or how this relationship will work in the long run.
I actually completely understand what Ciara was saying about Jesse's behavior, and it's very telling that people are more offended over her comment about his behavior than him pressuring her to sleep with West or him calling women "leads" among other disrespectful things. In this episode we heard him also say that he now hates the two women he went on dates with, and heard him categorize the women he hooks up with as not being worthy of a proper date because they're disposable. If I'd heard what Ciara had then I'd have the exact same opinion of Jesse and not want to introduce him to my friends because that is indeed trash bag behavior. If Jesse himself can be so blunt then why is Ciara not allowed to respond to that? As Ciara said, Jesse is a single guy and she doesn't have a problem if he wants to just hook up, she was responding to his treatment of those women. The way Jesse speaks about the women he hooks about with has indeed been degrading and it's wild that people are now ignoring that. Ciara has received more hate about this than Jesse received for pressuring her or saying those things, which tells you everything. Jesse is a guy very used to being able to say and do whatever he wants. I'm glad that Ciara actually pushed back against the way he's spoken about women. It also again shows that you can be friends with someone, but not like everything they do. I like Jesse and West, but people need to stop putting them on a pedestal.
We all know the reason the Bravo verse doesn't give Ciara the same grace that it gives Jesse or even Kyle when they mess up or use harsh words. 🧐 But apparently Ciara and Jesse are still very much friends currently based on his Instagram post.
@@crystalobaseki Jesse did something far more harsh directly to Ciara when pressuring her, but the same people offended by Ciara's comment haven't had any issue with Jesse's multiple harsh comments throughout the season. It really is so disappointing to see that she'll never be given the same grace as others. And yes, we even see in the next episode preview that Ciara and Jesse already made up and are friends. It makes the people still sending Ciara hate over this look even more ridiculous.
Yeah I actually met Ciara at Stagecoach last week and she was so sweet and very down-to-earth, really kind to everyone that approached her. I feel like people are forgetting how West already said before how loving Ciara is, but people refuse to give her any grace even when Jesse has said and done worse. It's clear that her and Jesse are also fine now so people hating her over this seems so unnecessary and like they were just waiting for an excuse to degrade her.
Craig had asked her multiple times to move in with him. If he didn't, why would he be redoing his house? I think she just lead him all and I don't really like him that much but I don't care for her either
It was actually Jesse who said it and his privilege was showing. Also, producers should ask , why did you think it's OK to ask Ciara "why aren't you sleeping with my friend?".
After listening to it again, West said apparently Ciara was mad that they made her drive the 3 hours. She was just ignoring them and then Jesse suggested she was crazy (half joking about it) for giving them the silent treatment.
This is why these people are just awful in relationships page and craig theres just no support or comunication there its just my way or the highway you can't build a relationship base on having the full control its 50/50
She gets upset and cries when Craig talks to her about her moving to Charleston. She's made it clear shes not ready for deep commitments. Craig needs to find someone else.
Craig needs to move on. Having children DOES require a timeline. If he wants a wife and a family (which is completely normal), he needs to move on, he deserves that. ❤
Why does she think you don’t plan for kids?! And has she never heard of a long engagement? Does she not know 35yrs old is considered a geriatric pregnancy? She seems very young trying to sound grown.
Right! She’s also 31…. Not 21. when Craig is 40 she’ll be 36. Apparently while her parents paid over 50k a year for a broadcast journalism degree it didn’t include a damn biology class 🙄
She's told Craig several times she is not moving to Charleston on tv, so why would he ask her to move in? She is so selfish, it's her lifestyle or nothing. Craig can get anyone. She needs a different outfit. That top is hideous
Exactly. And we now know Ciara was also responding to stuff he was saying at that table, including saying that women are leads and that he thinks some women as more disposable than others. He also told them earlier that he'd gone on dates and now hated the women. I wouldn't ever match a friend with a guy who talks about women in such a disrespectful manner.
Paige does not really care about Craig, she totally using him for the show, hard to listen to her talk on this episode. But Craig should listen to this and Run fast. He deserves a caring, loving, fun, woman to share his success and Joy in life. Craig is a good listener and seems to figure out people. He needs to listen to his gut now more than ever.
Awful! Please find someone else Craig. At 32 it's not that realistic for her to wait 10 more years to start having kids. You can absolutely have kids past 40 & 50 but as a woman it's a little more risky. Paige doesn't want to give up her single life in New York and that's fine just set Craig free.
Yes! Which reminds me that Ciara, for one example, gets all huffy when her love interest "kisses and tells." WTF does she think she is doing? The same goldamned thing! You want equality? You want parity? Then hold yourself up to the same standards, Ciara! (Oooh. That felt good.)
@@JuliaB1955 Some of you actually need help if you've managed to turn this comment into an opportunity to hate on Ciara. Where is Ciara "kissing and telling"? Because she didn't like Jesse pressuring her and or Jesse calling women "leads" as though they're disposable. And what does that have to do with equality? Are you seriously suggesting that a Black woman wanting parity in this society has anything to do with this? Sounds like you have a different agenda you want to push and frankly it's gross to see.
@@lys8573 I think YOU need help understanding what you're seeing when you watch the show. The show--not these after-show shits. Ciara is constantly spilling the tea about Wes. Go back and watch.
@@lys8573 And if any straight woman (skin tone, race, ethnicity are IRRELEVANT, Ms. Race Baiter) wants parity with men, then she must hold herself up to the same standards that she imposes. My only "agenda" is fairness.
Bottom line is Craig should drop Paige asap, he's a catch and there's a million women who would want to marry him and have children. Unfortunately I'm 56 so I'm not in the running, but if I were 30 I'd drop everything for a life and family with him and I've lived a long time. I hope Craig leaves her.
I totally see Paige's point. At minimum, she has to carry a baby for 9 months and deal with the physical, mental, and emotional toll of that plus the aftermath. That's if she has no problems getting pregnant, carrying, or delivering. Then there's the effect of all that on her career. And then she's expected to mother their child in ways Craig isn't. He can want a kid by 40, but if he is saying Paige has to do all of that on his timeline, then she's within her right to say that's not how it's going to work. Also her other point is that while they both want to get married, they've both said they don't have a deadline and enjoy living in two cities. Until Craig says "I want to live with you/marry you by next year", Paige isn't going to be prompting him to set those deadlines for her if she doesn't have them for him.
Craigs come a long way and shown a lot of growth he has become the man Naomi was trying to drag out of him, if he gets bored of waiting on paige he will get snapped up and settle down and start his family like he truly wants with no issues he just needs to realise paige isnt in this for a family shes in it for fame
Paige needs to check herself, I get that it’s your life and your boundaries and timeline etc etc but you have this incredible man infront of you, and you are riddled with FEAR- love is about jumping and trusting that it will be ok - just jump girl ❤
Paige love language seems to acts of service, not words of affirmation. I think that’s why it’s so hard to pick up on how much she does actually love him on the tv show. Easy to show someone gushing over their partner but challenging to show all the ins & outs of what they do for them.
When you have all those objections and plans for yourself then break up and move on with yourself because you are not in love at all to begin with... so stop playing pretend games.
So over this particular topic. I mean she's 31 and he's giving a 5 year window that means she'll be an older mother and at 36 may struggle to get pregnant and the odds of having a downs or autistic child go way up. She should really stop comparing a baby to a purse.
She needs to grow up generally. And stop being so utterly self absorbed. She lacks insight on an intense level. Just because she takes pictures for brands for a living does not make her more important than other people. Her sense of entitlement is misplaced.
@@niomisingh8871completely true. I had my daughter at 26, was pregnant again at 36, a geriatric pregnancy, high risk because I was 36, no medical problems. had ultrasounds about every 6 weeks and the baby died when I was five months pregnant. I didn't miscarry and had to have surgery to cut the baby in pieces to remove her, I never recovered nor did my 10 year old daughter. I became disabled by ptsd and my 10 year old was also diagnosed and had to live elsewhere. I ended up losing my job, my home, my daughter and my dead baby girl. I was 36. I'm now 56 and have been totally disabled by ptsd and panic and fear for 20 years. It ain't all fun and games and Craig shouldn't have to wait when he wants kids now and she doesn't. When she's ready she probably won't be able to have kids !
Ciera was right about Jesse. I wouldn't want a guy that has been in and out of everyone's door. And the girls shamelessly sleeping with anyone and everyone, that are shaming Ciara for not sleeping with whoever shows her attention, are actually the ones that are loosey goosey. Daniel and Lindsey like to get around. I'm sure they'll be out there together picking up random men again, now that Carl is out. Imo...
Part of me feels like Ciara calling Jesse Solomon a trash bag was projection. That other guy (the muppet from Charleston) seems to have done a number on her.
@@ZEBEEtheoriginal No, not ignoring it. Jesse Solomon has done some things that made me raise my eyebrows more than once, I just think referring to him as a trash bag was harsh. As long as he’s getting consent, being safe, not leading anyone on, and not hurting anyone, I don’t see the issue.
@@ZEBEEtheoriginal The way people are completely ignoring the things that Jesse has said and done demonstrates how people have put him on a pedestal. Jesse literally pressured Ciara to sleep with West, so if we want to talk about being harsh and mean then that was objectively worse but didn't receive anywhere near the same reaction. In this episode we heard Jesse also say that he now hates the two women he went on dates with, and heard him categorize the women he hooks up with as not being worthy of a proper date because they're disposable. If I'd heard what Ciara had then I'd have the exact same opinion of Jesse and not want to introduce him to my friends. Ciara even explained that it's not about him hooking up with women, it's the way he talks about those women. You can be a single guy without speaking about women in such a degrading way. I'm glad Ciara said something because guys like Jesse are used to trashing women behind their backs and Ciara stood up for them to his face.
@@danielrivera6208 If you’re defending Jesse you need to direct your comment to ZEBEEtheoriginal. She was the one who criticized him, not me. If you read my comments I said that Ciara was harsh and that I didn’t see an issue with what he’s doing.
I had a friend that had a girlfriend for over 10 years. They even look like siblings. After all that time together , they end up breaking up . He met someone else. In just a year he married the new girl and had a family. I think Paige is doing what my friend was doing. She just saved the opportunity to marry a good guy, until further notice. I hope I am wrong bc Craig is a gentleman. He deserves love without insecurities.
It's time for Craig to kick Paige to the curb. She designed his house for herself. He has more or less said he'd like to be a father in 4 to 5 years. She says her choice. So be it Paige, let him go if not what you want. You even made it seem you don't want to be a mother. And if yoyr show which is getting too long in the tooth gets canceled, how fast will you start planning your marriage to Craig. He still has a successful pillow business and he could afford to give you a lifestyle you would like. Just saying
Video by video Paige is starting to turn me off her. Everything has been her way, little compromise so far. I am starting to doubt her intentions. How many times does Craig have to elude to Paige moving in, only for a lot of reasons/excuses why she doesn’t want that to happen. So after having heard the reasons why you don’t want to move in, why would he ask. Having given him so many deflections.
Paige is just a spoiled brat who thinks she doesn't have to offer anything or make any sacrifice for anyone, she just expects retribution. I don't see her with the maturity to have a family. She's not getting any younger.
I really like Paige's way of thinking; she is realistic. Many women give in to their feelings without applying logic and, more often than not, they live to regret it. Ciara got on board with this thought process after icky Austen so she is going to be okay too.
I think that’s so wildly dismissive just because the man cant carry the baby doesn’t mean he can’t have goals and timelines for themselves men want kids just as badly as women want kids that’s insensitive. It doesn’t make you a strong independent chick to treat your man like his feelings don’t matter it just makes you mean
Men can have a timeline but don’t expect that timeline to be applied by the person who says they’re not aligned with it. He has the freedom to look for someone with the same timeline or adjust accordingly if he wants to stay.
Unpopular opinion, but Craig if you want a wife, kids and all of that jazz by 40, Paige might not be the one. I’m not hearing the willingness to compromise that is needed for a successful marriage.
I don't care for Paige. She doesn't seem to care what Craig wants. It's about her and her only. It's been 3 year's and it's the same thing. He needs to leave her and find someone who will at least compromise with him. I never saw her moving to Charleston.
If a relationship is this difficult when it comes to Paige timeline. If y'all move in together where New York? Paige doesn't compromise she says its going to be on her timr linr. And.yes Craig has asked.her abt being engaged. she always says she is not ready.
Paige is fine with a part time boyfriend! That's how she likes it right now! When she's ready then she'll get married & live in New York city. Craig won't be her husband!
Nice act. Craig doesn’t want to settle down and definitely not with Paige. Paige knows it’s all an act but wants to hype herself up and act like Craig is begging to settle down with her. He sleeps with half of his town. Get real. 😂
I don’t know …. if she’s not even ready to get engaged … he’s madly in love with her, he likes all of her, they have a lot of fun and seem comfortable and honest with each other. And they laugh a lot, I know we only see what we see… but these are all things people take for granted.
Paige is really becoming annoying. She is going to continue to be an annoyance for Craig for ever, it seems. It is time, in my opinion, for Craig to start dating other single women and for Paige to start dating other single men. Sure they like one another but let them know that and continue dateing other people. I would like to see Craig walk down the isle with someone who keeps in check and can bring fun and assurance into their relationship. Is Craig ready to man up, he is if he keeps his drinking to minimal and concentrates on continually being a trustworthy guy that he is. Note to Paige it is not her job to make the guy she is interested and supposingly going to marry look weak and pitiful.
How I read the situation seems different from the majority. I enjoy their pairing, but think they just need to lay the groundwork/Craig needs to step up because he can be a bit wishy-washy/immature/all talk-no action. People say Paige is immature, but she is 5 years younger and seems pretty self aware with hard boundaries and frequently talks about how much work she puts into therapy. I don't think Craig wants to start over, and the challenge of being with someone who is their own person forces personal growth.
Paige needs to watch the start of her relationship with Craig 😏😏 - she cried for a relationship - when she gets it, she acts like it’s a huge inconvenience to seem cool???
This Craig and Paige situation - gendered reversed we would be going off on Craig for being a fuckboy n wasting Paige’s time. I love how independent Paige is, how she doesn’t want to put things together bc they aren’t even engaged and that is admirable. But honestly he’s LITERALLY telling her that he does want to be married and have kids. She is not compromising at all.
I thought they were already engaged lol, but saying that babies are something you can't plan is a bit of a silly statement.. babies are one of the main things in life that you're supposed to plan 😃
