What I find more amazing than the sound of these cymbals is how freaking quickly they change the cymbal while the guy is playing! it's astounding the speed. hats off to the crew.
Best cymbal demonstration video ever. No fills on the toms, no crazy patterns, and no showing off. We just get to hear every line of cymbals being played, one after another.
I do like the snare tuning. However there seems to be a strange ring lingering i dont care for. It is possible something on the rig is loose and reverberating when the snare is hit. The symbols sound good however the combination together could be a luttle adjusted for my taste. All said and done it is just my opinion. There would be no expression of music if we all think the same. I love variety and i respect each and every musician who can express what they experiance through thier music. ;)
Kylen Whitaker what is compression? I don’t really know. I just started drumming in 2018 and I know a lot about drums, like I have done hours of research but I still don’t know what compression is.
@@vincent-ow8ss I'm not very good at definitions so here is Wikipedia's definition: "Dynamic range compression (DRC) or simply compression is an audio signal processing operation that reduces the volume of loud sounds or amplifies quiet sounds thus reducing or compressing an audio signal's dynamic range. Compression is commonly used in sound recording and reproduction, broadcasting,[1] live sound reinforcement and in some instrument amplifiers." Basically, you make it so quiet things become louder and loud things quieter. This is done in a lot of recordings yet on demos such as this you would usually want the cleanest, unprocessed sound you can get. Watch Carter Mclean's demos if you want an example (he is also just insanely musical which also helps). This is so we can gauge what the cymbals sound like in a live situation, before its masked under effects. As you can guess the compression here really kills the personality of each line, be that an upside with the cheaper lines or a big downside on the more expensive ones.
I think it needs more compression... just a touch.. haha. Just kidding. Paiste do have that bright sort of clangy sound.. but can sound unreal in the mix if properly .. mixed.
All other brands of cymbals are Mic'd up and EQ'd to sound like a Paiste cymbal, I would have liked to hear them without all the recording magic and just the natural sound of each cymbal
The samples on the Paiste website are much more realistic. Here we just hear differences of pitch, but can't hear all the subtle things that make a difference between a pst or a signature... in my opinion
@@marshallhammond9933 Your opinion is correct. Paiste sound files are the best on the web. Meinl files are good too. Not "Paiste good", but good. If Sabian sales were made strictly from their website, they'd be out of business tomorrow.
What are the odds of you guys doing an updated version including PST7, PST8, Maybe PSTX, Big Beat, and Masters Series? It would be great that you do it.
My dad had been endorsed by paiste when I was born and started drumming. I used his 2000 power crashes and rides and they were so distinct I still remember the sound to this day. Synesthesia also helped me vividly remember that one sounded blue and one sounded orange if that makes sense 😅
I've never owned any Paiste cymbals in my 36 years of drumming but THIS is how EVERY cymbal demo should have been created from the begining. This demo gives you a VERY good way of trying to find "THAT SOUND" we all have in our heads that we search for in a cymbal. I have have never been "loyal" to any of the brands...if it sounds like what I'm looking for then I don't care what brand it is. Currently I have 3 brands of cymbals in my 12 piece Mapex Saturn kit. I have been interested in an Alpha for a while. Good to hear it in a comparison like what's in this video. Zildjian and Sabian currently don't make the 14" crash sound im looking for. ALPHA 14" Thin may be my 1st Paiste. Thanks for such a great video. And yeah!, don't like the bass drum sound at all!
Some of those sure are amazing. One thing that's always stopping me from getting a set of Paiste cymbals, is the fact that almost all their crashes are very high pitched. I don't think that I own anything smaller than 18". Even most of the low crashes in this video are higher than my high crashes. Not saying that they don't sound good - they do.
Paiste is made using "Swiss" technique, cut from rolled metal sheet of uniform thickness. Whereas "Turkish" cymbals have per-cymbal unique hand-made tonal characteristics, Paiste are drop-in identical sounding cymbals given same size and series.
I loved the tones on the 2002's and the reflectors as well. I also liked the darker sound on the twenties. I'd like to check out the new China blast from the rude line as well
This is a poor representation of how any of these cymbals will sound. There is such an incredible amount of compression and processing that all of the cymbals sound fake and, quite frankly, exactly alike.
I disagree, i could hear a clear difference between all the cymbals. I liked pretty much all the sounds after the PST line. PST 3's sounded like tin can lids
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou!.....At last a demonstration that you can really hear and see that the cymbals are given the same power and drive needed to compare the difference's between the sets........My favourite is the Rude......I have some, they've lasted a long time and still look good......Once again thankyou for sharing this demo with us.
The PST's are hands down the best entry level cymbals on the market. Rudes sound great, but no quite the 2002's, and those are B8 alloy which is amazing! Ya can't go wrong, with Paiste, no matter what style you play
+Harrison Myers the Signature Classic series will cover those styles of music. You can mix and match within a series, of course, to dial in a sound for a specific application. For instance you can combine Signature Classic and Signature Dark Energy cymbals, if you need a darker crashes and a ride for Jazz. Signature Precision and Signature Classics combine well too...a 22" Signature Precision Heavy Ride would cover your the Rock and Heavy Rock gigs. We offer a wide array of sounds that are easily combinable. Check out the Signature Precision series, which is also made with out patented Signature alloy, and offered at a more comfortable price point.
+Harrison Myers - both the Giant Beat and 2002 lines are versatile, but the 2002 has a wider selection of sizes and models. 2002's are wonderful cymbals - going strong since 1971.
This video doesn't help much. Why doesn't he play on the ride cymbal (other than the bell) ??? DRIVES ME NUTS! And why didn't they record it more naturally so we can hear the difference? There is too much effects (compression). I AM GLAD THEY AT LEAST TRIED!
WOW. Paiste, you guys knocked it out of the park with this promo. Great job...and that kid did an excellent job representing each series. Damn right, hats off to the entire crew!
Hi! I'm saving money up to get a new ride cymbal. I was thinking of getting a 20" Paiste Signature Fast Ride or a 20" 2002 ride. What would you recommend?
I’ve always loved the 2002s. I thought they were the perfect rock cymbal. But the new 2002 Big beats are my new favorite. They’re like the original 2002s but they’re warmer and darker. The decay is amazing too. It makes the sound you’re looking for without the excess ringing.
Beeing a beginner I went into the shop, checked all the stuff out, knowing nothing about brands, labels or what. First thing I noticed is that I want a cymbal that gives something like a white noise, having the least trashy sound. And the best sounding cymbal to me was and is the paiste 2002 20" ride! So ignoring the price tag I bought it and because of its sound cherished it and took good care ever since - only to learn about it beeing rather of the high end later. Big grin.
The paiste sounds really cool and awesome. Not only that. They're more very friendly to use a paiste cymbals. I haven't really owned one, but I do love it. Better than zildjian. The Zildjians here in philippines are expensive, usually a K zildjian, though. The first time I heard a Paiste cymbals sound was Tico torres of bon jovi and Tommy lee of Motley crue. They're more notable to use paiste when I was watching their concert on youtube. Paiste cymbals are the no. 1 and best crafted sound in switzerland. 😊👍🙌
Another arctic white/black hardware Saturn!😍 I live in Toronto and my old band was playing a show in Ottawa in 2014. We stopped at Long & Mcquade for a rental kit. We were super crunched for time and needed to be in and right the fuck out but I'd forgotten my sticks at home. I would've never left the rental department otherwise so when I went over to the drum department for a couple of pairs, I turned the corner and there she was: 12x8/16x14/20x20. The kick was a custom order by the original owner. My bandmates were quite pissed at me but I filled in the paperwork and arranged to have it on the next truck to Toronto. It's not too often that I see white Saturns but they always make my day if I happen across one on RU-vid or something. Sure, if I continue doing musical stuff, I might buy other kits down the line, but this one is going to stay with me forever. That 20x20 will cut through absolutely anything/burn small venues to the ground.
Paiste,I'm assuming the same sized cymbals were used throughout the video. Is it possible for you to list the sizes used for the hats, ride, and crashes, please? It would be very helpful to me.
all of them are very similar. itd be great if you could do a side by side CRASH demo and a seperate one for RIDES and hihats etc. just so you can compare them directly after each other
Best comparison vid ever. Thanks man. 2002, RUDE, SIGS. The end. (Hey not played were the Colorsounds... great sounding cymbals and great for recording if you are a hard hitter.)The end.
Glad that PAISTE decided to reprise this video! The old PAISTE video (w/ Mike Johnston) was such a great concept...it was really a shame they had to remove it once he switched to Meinl cymbals. I'm surprised this concept hasn't been used by other cymbal companies. Oh, well...too bad for other cymbal companies, I guess. Kudos to PAISTE!!!
@@Palestina.non.grata86 ...the oldest video I'm seeing (on RU-vid, at least) of Zildjian doing a similar cymbal comparison, was posted about 9 years ago. The video, in which Mike Johnston was featured doing the comparison of Paiste cymbals, was posted over 10 years ago. Who are these "thieves" you're referring to?
I consider myself an unofficial spokes person and endorser of Paiute cymbals,I have played them since 1982,the 2002 line the rude line and now the addition of the 900 series,I play in a Van Halen tribute band that I formed in 1982,we have played all over,I hung out at my local music store a lot and the owner told me that I sold more paiste cymbals for him than his drum salesman just buy selling people on them and people seeing me use them at shows,in case anybody wonders about paiste cymbals you can’t go wrong they are the best they cut through everything and they sound amazing!!!!!
The whole set is amped so well and sounds so good that it's hard to judge the cymbals. You can make (almost) any cymbal play great if you're a master in mixing
Ado - No. cheap drums can be tuned, mic’d & mixed to sound really quite good. Cheap cymbals always sound cheap. And if you can’t hear this, you’re not very discerning…
Excelent video. For those mentioning that there is too much compression so that all cymbals sound the same... Well stop listening on your phone, get proper quality headphones or studio monitors, and last but not least... check your otolaryngologist! 😁✌
I saw someone comment under a zildjian comparison video saying they cant do do dark cymbals. 2 things; 1. They really can 2. If that is true than thats nothing compared to these. All of these sound so light. There's no real change in my opinion. Thats why i use zildjan K
I can not believe a reputable company like Paiste will release a comparison video such as this with so much sound prosessing. An entry level PST sound almost the same as their top of the line cymbals. Make me your consultant immediately!
You can really tell that all the lines are from the same company. All of the Paiste products in this video sound amazing. There is one problem, I think it's the compression and mic's. The RUDE line sound like RUDE but I have never liked RUDE until this video. They all sound the same except for how bright and crisp they are from one another. My GIANT BEAT's sound dark and ominous yet on this video all of the bottom end seem to be washed out by how brilliant each sounds. the only really true or closest ones are the 2002's in comparison to real life. The video is really well done, I guess I'm just really asking is it's the compression, EQ setting's or the mic's that are used in combination. Thank you in advance!
