Pako & Haldan - Budget Deck Tech | The Command Zone 331 | Magic: The Gathering Commander 

Deck Tech starts at 4:59. You're welcome.

I'd love to see a game knights where they have Mitch and someone else on, maybe Kyle or Craig, and they all have to make budget decks.

I haven't watched this yet but I'm hoping this is a sign that the game knights with only budget decks and commanders quarters is coming soon.

Josh.. remember even if those cards that you are drafting are "worthless". They may no always be. Keep in mind, gilded drake was considered "draft chaff" and it was left on many many tables.

I have been waiting forever for this deck tech! I'm definitely building around Pako and Haldan.

Yes! Been hyped ever since y'all mentioned the deck tech last video, loving the content!! (Especially the budget brews!)

They need to invite Mitch to game knights and do a budget episode. No vedalken orrery for Josh...

I wonder if they have ever had a copyright claim because of their impeccable singing.

The thing I love about budget builds is the ability to get a deck rolling cheaply and learning what the deck does well/poorly and finding the best path to upgrade. I genuinely hope more channels do more budget deck techs (not every one, but every third or fourth tech would be very cool).

15:56 “ruff” I could only hear the pun lol

My brother brewed these commanders and found Key to the City is a pretty good card. Having that unblockable on a card you can get off of Pako that also lets you cycle is powerful. And you draw enough cards off of Pako that you don't care as much about the discard.

I'm a budget player and I am currently working on a mono red and mono green decks but I might bulid this deck none of the precons this year spoke to me but pocko speaks to me

Yesssss! Been wanting to build a decent budget Pako deck! Buzzing to watching this 😄😍

Pako and Haldan is my favorite deck I’ve made! Song of creation is insane in the deck because you don’t care about the discard clause with all the cards you have fetched. I’m also playing tidal barracuda which lets me play spells at instant speed and protects my turn. I’m running 9 different counterspells to protect my board. Obviously anything that lets you play more lands is awesome, you could probably make a lands deck with them. P/H are super versatile value engines that are really fun to play. Thanks Josh and Jimmy for the video and spreading the word on this awesome deck!

Please more awesome deck techs like this and the obosh one in the future! Awesome vids!

Great deck tech guys. Keep the budget deck techs coming!!

If only there was a channel that specialized in budget EDH decks,and you guys personally met them and invited them at least once. Could you imagine having a game knights with someone like that🤔

I'm late to the party on this episode, but I just built a $150 version of Pako and Haldan, and let me just say I have never had so much fun playing commander before. These guys are a blast to play and it is really good at matching the power level of any playgroup you play with. I find that running a ton of ramp spells and can trips in your deck (leap/shadow rift/slip through space/preordain/etc) keep your hand full and also can help give Pako evasion which is really useful.

Great deck-tech! I'm curious to know where you guys would rate this on the 1-10 power scale. I think that could be an interesting addition to future deck-tech videos if you can squeeze in an extra minute or 2 for some thoughts/discussion about it.

I think having Kruphix in a deck like this would be excellent. The fact that you can pay whatever mana you want means you can just dump a bunch of mana into Kruphix and save it for later

Guys this was such a good episode! Mitch at the Commanders Quarters does great work so it's so nice to see other creators going for budget as well to expand the pool of options. I would love to see more!

Built a budgety Pako/Haldan deck out of spare cards in my collection and it's so much fun. The Good Boy makes games so entertaining.

Good deck idea, looking forward to another Game Knight as I have watched the most recent one and have watched past ones too. Never played a commander deck but have learned how to from watching you. Hope to see more awesome plays.

I've been waiting for this!! So excited for his pairing.

I like a lot of the ideas in this deck. I wonder if adding a few more cards to make Pako unblockable would be worth it since you already have the Herald of Secret Streams. I was thinking Aqueous Form (Aura with Unblockable + scry 1 on attack) or Whispersilk Cloak (Equipment with Shroud + Unblockable) since these are also budget.

Had quite a bit of fun brewing Haldan and Pako... ... I bought the precon and I edited it quite a bit with my existing collection, so the deck's pathways are part proliferate, part copying (with Kalamax and other cards), and part top of the library business. Other cards for top of the library business? Riverwise Augur, Conch Horn, and Dream Cache are pretty good, and I was fortunate to find a Portent, Time Ebb, Run Aground, and Memory Lapse in my collection. Reclaim is a great instant for a single green to put a card from your bin on top of your library. Tahngarth's Glare was such a dumb card for the longest time, now the card is dumb and awesome in my Haldan-Pako brew. With Kalamax and other copying support, my opponent's spells are much more effective. Temur Charm, Barrage of Boulders, Cosmotronic Wave, and Lure are some unblockable goodies, and if I could find the room, I could try Bellowing Tanglewurm, Nemesis Mask, Taunting Elf, Noble Quarry, and Prized Unicorn. Sometimes you just have to end the game, so I'm glad I found Relentless Assault in my collection. Temur Battle Rage, Raking Claws, and Wrecking Ogre are good for some unexpected double strike goodness. I have a bit of protection in the form of equipment, enchantments, creatures, nope spells, and some of the very spells which make the deck go. Once the pandemic finally not only gets a vaccine, but also gets under reasonable control, I'm totally up for some musical chairs, though I'm the only one who's going to be leaving my seat.

Would love to see an updated version of this deck

Really good decktech Jimmy. Thanks! Kudos to the Command Crew, Mister Infect Glasses ruled big time! Take care guys, keep safe!

Hello thanks for introducing me to magic

Still waiting for that Budget Game Knights!

Josh says "It's a free deck" about a $60 deck, next thing you know he'll be passing out fetches because they're just lands lol

Actually made and played with my group with Pako and Haldan. I quickly became the enemy as I was exiling their cards. Once I got out Pako he vacate a big threat that pulled a lot a value. Pulled in Haldan, never missed a land drop. Unfortunately I was first gone, but a super fun to play.

Just wanna say thanks guys more than ever I started working out since we’re in lockdown and i now literally save your podcasts for the sessions it really helps time fly 🤘 ps if you want a mind blowing show to sink you teeth into there’s a show called OA on Netflix, a bit slow paced and definitely out there but if you can accept the premise you should absolutely love it

something you guys didn't mention when talking about the card Trinket Mage...it can grab the artifact lands, turning it into a blue Borderland Ranger/Civic Wayfinder/District Guide...I'm sure most people already knew this but that little bit of extra versatility really pushes Trinket Mage into the "staple" category when talking about budget commander decks...

I like Joiner Adept as a mana fixing card for a budget version of Chromatic Lantern: 1G creature 2/1 "Lands you control tap for 1 of any color" Love the decktech vids btw 👌

Did anyone else notice that Haldan's outfit is made out of Pako fur? Did Pako have a brother who "ran away"? Anyways, love the deck tech Jimmy. Can't wait for more deck tech concepts from command zone. Obosh was really fun to watch too. I know at least one person in my playgroup who's planning to build this commander and I will for sure reference them to your video. Keep up the hard work. You guys rock!

"Peasants, commander with good cards in the deck, this product is not for you."

So good finally hearing them talking about actual strategy instead of just cramming goodstuff. EDHREC is a sweet site. I am happy they have been getting really good at deck building. I'm a longtime listener and if you listen to old podcasts it's all goodstuff all the time

pako and haldan are my favorite partners from the set and im happy they made this video about them. ill show it to my friends who spoke trash about them

I've been hoping you guys would make a deck tech on these two hyped to finally have a casual edh deck that is pako!!!!

The two dumb things i wanna do with this deck are either, all cards with a spherical or stick shaped object in the art. For that I see Pako gleefully brining objects to Haldan, and Haldan going "This is not a ball, we're not playing here... However it is fairly useful..." Or i want to fill the deck up with arcane spells, and just be the most avid arcanist

these are the commanders I been waiting for, though I was hoping for a singular commander, I'm going to make this work. Nice work, it would be cool if you did an unrestricted deckbuild. Also you know what would be really cool? If EDHREC put below the cards you searched other cards that do the same things or almost similar things as the the car you looked up. It would make deckbuilding research on their site much easier. Maybe Tapout should do it to help deckbuilders there.

I made a control focused version of these two, and the only two creatures I included in the deck were Oracle of Muldaya and Azusa.

I’ve been thinking of building Pako (and Haldan)! Perfect!

So i had an idea for a Game Knights episode, specifically Fan-Brewed decks being used in an episode.

I just ordered my Gfuel with the promo code you guys gave. I'm super excited!

I would suggest the guys from the Quest for the Janklord channel to be featured on a budget deck Game Knights episode or on a podcast on a budget decktech like this. Those guys are awesome, their content is really creative and entertaining. And Mitch have collaborated with them already. ;)

The partner cards in the 2020 precons are all pretty decent. I hope we see another duo featured in a deck tech.

Hey Jimmi, hey Josh👋🏼 maybe, because it’s not possible to record Game Knights right now, you could play some relaxed rounds of duel commander. Because of the lower action ingame, due to the 1v1 situation, there are less animations and „interviews“ to do.

I still think it would have been cool, or would be cool, to see how everybody is working in their own space, like a behind the scenes vlog style of what The Command Zone looks like now.

I was actually about to order some stuff for a version of a Haldan and Pako deck I brewed but now... I think i might reconsider putting some cards from this deck tech into my own deck.. Awesome deck tech btw 😄

can u do more budget decks in the future

Been wanting to build this deck

I have an idea for a budget pako and haldan tribal eldrazi deck tech where we would focus on eldrazi with abilities like "put an exiled card into an oponents graveyard and do this or that" and on generating eldrazi spawn that can be sacrificed for a colorless mana to be used as mana of any color to cast cards exiled with pako through haldan's hability.

I might be wrong here, but Haldan clearly states "You may play noncreature cards from exile with fetch counters on them if you exiled them". They emphasised cast trigger synergies between on-board effects and Haldan's ability a number of times, but isn't there a crucial difference between "playing a card" and "casting a card"? Really Fun Tech! "Steal your stuff in moderation", might not ruffle feathers as much as "steal all your stuff". Keeping and updating multiple decks can still be quite expensive.

A 60-70 dollar deck on card kingdom means 40-50 on TCGplayer

i have a bookmark for your affiliate link so i can support you guys without having to remember everytime

Consider the Processors from Battle for Zendikar, especially Void Attendant or Oracle of Dust. The ability to retrieve your opponent's cards from exile is a great bargaining chip. It'll almost make them forget you exiled those cards in the first place...

I'm kinda sad no one played Silvar and Trynna. I recently got to pilot the deck and man Silvar can do some work

Thank you I am now going to build this kind of deck.

when a commander has partner you need to have 98 cards in the deck right?

The reason why this deck tech doesn't equal out is because most people read the Pako and go "we have to build around this!" When in reality, all the cards that specifically cater to Pako are mostly trash when he's not on the board. I go with a typical temur landfall build with some cards like unexpected results and reality scramble for more fun randomness.

Are you guys planning on doing a Zaxara build?

Can't you use the 'partner ability ' to search your deck (even knowing the other card isn't in there) just to shuffle your deck too? So you use brainstorm, don't like ANYTHING you put back on top, cast your commander: trigger the partner ability to search your deck, fail to find, shuffle your deck? This turns casting your commander into: I may also shuffle my deck when i cast it

It seems like the 'Scry' mechanic would work really well for manipulating the top card(s) of your library in this deck.

That g fuel sponsorship is some shade thrown at keemstar right about now XD

I'm wondering if Josh and Jimmy have the same opinions as The Professor at Tolarian Community College re: Double Masters.

Built my version to make as many copies of the seven dwarves as possible 🧙‍♂️

I would add rogue passague, whispersilk cloak and wings of hubris to make sure pako can hit or kill

Definitely looks like a fun deck. My Pako and Haldan is more of a landfall deck.

When are we getting Mitch on Gameknights?

Any chance we'll see an Ukkima partner commander deck tech?

I think ugin the ineffable would help because it can reduce cost of artifacts and can be a fetch target of haldan.

Lantern Control is super viable in EDH I run a sulti mill deck with Vantress Gargoyle its very fun!!!!!

Just use some caution when using Fury Storm on a Torment of Hailfire: the player who cast the original one may be at a lower life total than the other opponents and decide to not sac anything and die to the first Torment that resolves. This will cause the other copies of Fury Storm to fizzle, as the original Torment they targeted will no longer be on the stack when they try to resolve.

What I love about pako and haldan is there are many different ways to build this deck. Vultron with equipment and/or auras. Super friends. Spell slinger. Mr. Steal your stuff.

I might make this since I made a sen triplets budget deck

It's nice to see a deck tech like this without the usual goodstuff lists. It'd be interesting and helpful to divide this out like they do with the preconstructed lists though, showing how many forms of removal, card draw, board wipes, etc. DZ DZ DZ DZ - STATS etc.

hey Josh. I dont know what episode was that on so Im writing this to the latest episode. there was an episode where you talked about how being the 4th player is a huge disadvantage and if you give the 4th player some compromise then 3rd player is in that spot. I came up with a solution. what if instead of everyone getting one free mulligan, every player gets a number of free mulligans equal to their turn order before they start putting cards back on their deck. first player gets one, second gets 2, third gets 3 and 4th gets 4. what do you think about this? would it be too strong? too weak? I am asking mainly you because you are in the CAG.

Can i get an opinion? Which one should i buy,disregarding price , Breed Lethality, Swell the host, plunder.the graves, Mind Seize, Eternal Bargain, or arcane maelstrom?

Rowdy sounds like a cool dewd

Is Ultrapro going to do C20 sleeves? I bought all the precons for the first time and was hoping to deck them all out with their specific sleeves.

Show upgrades with a higher budget. You already have Mitch and others doing cheap decks, give us the power

demonic tutor has nothing to do with the top of the library?

Non-budget option... Etali, maybe? Haldan and Pako are halfway there anyway. :D Also, steal cards like Bribery and Acquire. Still going on theme with what this deck wants (play with your opponents' cards without going into mean territory).

Command Zone: "60-70$. that's really cheap" Mitch from Commander's Quarter's with 50$, 25$, and 10$ deck techs: "Allow me to introduce myself"

If I put a fetch counter on a land, have I created a fetch land?

Yeah gfuel!! If you get the chance to make your own flavour, maybe cotton candy? Surprisingly not there.....

This would have been the perfect opportunity to have Kiwi on the show!

Glad you guys are doing deck Techs again. I love them but for a while they disappeared

Does that audio sound not quite right on this episode?

Literally just finished my Haldan and Pako deck! Can't wait to try it out

More of this, please ;-)

Did you guys need to do multiple takes in the beginning when starting these? I noticed you really don't do cuts. Also, do you go into a video with a certain length you want it to be? How have you learned how to gauge the amount of content is needed for a topic for a proper "script" for a show or whatever it's called?

I have to say that solar opposites is not like Rick and Morty at all and is quite bad

Love the content you guys make

I once built a deck with Tatyova as commander, and tons of land ramping. I spent every game shuffling the deck constantly, it was super boring and I ended scrapping the deck though it was good.. This one doesn't have that much land ramp but still, might be annoying

Let's call this the Doge Decklist.

The biggest thing that I took from this episode was that Rashmi is budget

Played against pako its very good. It won 3 of 5 games.