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PANEL DISCUSSION | KZN coalition government - way forward 

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There are still questions over who will take charge of hung provinces. In KwaZulu-Natal, the MK Party received just over 45% of the votes, followed by the IFP with around 18% and the ANC with just under 17%. NFP's Ivan Barnes and DA's Francois Rodgers discuss the way forward and how coalition outcomes will impact the provincial government.
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@kusaselihlengubane8984
@kusaselihlengubane8984 3 месяца назад
The MK indecisiveness might be it's downfall.
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
It doesn't have a manifesto, I haven't seen it's policies...it's just another banana party that doesn't not have a structure. Having one person dictate and control the party as if he owns the party is dangerous for the constitution and democracy... I wish our people in KZN can comprehend and understand that.....
@zamam3394
@zamam3394 3 месяца назад
nope, i think MK will be an opposition party . not indecisive. they not part of the anc, will surpass the DA as an oppoisition in future
@kusaselihlengubane8984
@kusaselihlengubane8984 3 месяца назад
If they can govern better. Deliver services and clamp down on crime and corruption then yes. If they fail... Well, they'll end up like the ANC.
@anthonyandrewss
@anthonyandrewss 3 месяца назад
they are all confused..fighting amongst its members...fighting for leadership within the party.. haike
@suesykes6798
@suesykes6798 3 месяца назад
I don't care who the Opposition Party will be as long as they dig KZN out of the deep hole that it has landed in due to lack of service delivery. Never known it to be so dirty and overgrown ​@@zamam3394
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419
@itanetherevivalistrevivali8419 3 месяца назад
Can DA even be part of this. We are in Limpopo but we are watching your shenanigans very closely Xoli. Are you selling KZN?...or you want to stay there?. Do you hate MK that much????... We are watching your nonsense together with your SABC ... Don't do what you are doing. Your love for your Master shouldn't go to your big head!
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
You got to love the underlying threats: “we are watching you!” Imagine if somebody from the DA would say something like that.
@MzamoAdoons372
@MzamoAdoons372 3 месяца назад
I pray that God must protect the people of KZN
@MzamoAdoons372
@MzamoAdoons372 3 месяца назад
Otherwise we are walking straight into another black on black violence in KZN
@SfisosiphoNkosi
@SfisosiphoNkosi 3 месяца назад
The people have chosen who should govern them in KZN. Stop trying to interfere with their right, because it will backfire badly and we don't want that for our country!
@berthalesia7629
@berthalesia7629 3 месяца назад
I respect You
@idonwonpeace8238
@idonwonpeace8238 3 месяца назад
What, they will loot and destroy their economy again? 😂
@MusaMnisiTv
@MusaMnisiTv 3 месяца назад
Very true mfwethu bayazihlanyisa nje laba bafuna ukusbusa ngenkani🤞
@sizwemeyer6076
@sizwemeyer6076 3 месяца назад
What do you mean? You want 40% parties to be allowed to govern even if more than 55% of voters never chose them?? 😅
@sizwemeyer6076
@sizwemeyer6076 3 месяца назад
Alukho muntu ofuna ukunibusa ngenkani. Umthetho uthi thola u 50+ ukuze ubuse noma hlangana nabanye nibuse ngokubambisana. Uma uhlulwa iloko kokubili uzobuyela eceleni kubuse abanye
@sibonisosiboniso3085
@sibonisosiboniso3085 3 месяца назад
Woza friday
@janheron9994
@janheron9994 3 месяца назад
People of KZN voted for MK this will not end well for the IFP for selling out it's people they are also divided regarding this issue
@sasha8664
@sasha8664 3 месяца назад
They got less than 50...even in KZN.Calm down
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
​@@sasha8664yes ANC got 40 but they are the ones telling people the nature of government to be constituted.
@sasha8664
@sasha8664 3 месяца назад
@@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 so what.If other partiea can outdo their numbers and form a government then so shall it be.
@mashobane6177
@mashobane6177 3 месяца назад
There is no Majority party in KZN . So there was no one that was chosen in KZN.
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
@@mashobane6177 nationally is right for ANC and DA bully to whose right to work with
@mukubitomuzaliwa6675
@mukubitomuzaliwa6675 3 месяца назад
Xolani is an ANC journalist 🙄
3 месяца назад
We have to many political parties in SA...which have their differences too.
@tamara40
@tamara40 3 месяца назад
Stellenbosch Mafia fund them because naboke bavuka why they can't see that we are being divided by them to me they just power hungry that's all let's stop Al accepting money from Stellenbosch Mafia period
@LeoKing-ns8gd
@LeoKing-ns8gd 3 месяца назад
K.Z.N DON'T WANT A.N.C WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANC
@ReginaldTiemie-nf4gk
@ReginaldTiemie-nf4gk 3 месяца назад
why cant they just give kzn to mk and see how they fare
@MkhontoNsele
@MkhontoNsele 3 месяца назад
Making MK the boogeyman will backfire spectacularly. The media and analysts keep on making the same mistake. I was hoping people have learnt something from these elections.
@christopherwalker1157
@christopherwalker1157 3 месяца назад
They’ve been doing that to the DA for years , why’s it only a problem now
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
The question is “will MK give the position of premier to IFP?” Because the ANC and DA will.
@christopherwalker1157
@christopherwalker1157 3 месяца назад
@@thomasprogli3372 No MK won’t
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 3 месяца назад
You European descendants live in your own world, that why you get surprised when reality hits your faces
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
​@@christopherwalker1157what has been done to DA
@dannymkwanazi4888
@dannymkwanazi4888 3 месяца назад
I am leaving this channel
@karabontseki617
@karabontseki617 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@troy1709-h5f
@troy1709-h5f 3 месяца назад
First there must be MONEY ... from new industries and taxpayers! Without money you can do nothing of what you promise!
@superflyphones9058
@superflyphones9058 3 месяца назад
Ningahlangani neDA nidayisa ngathi
@mateabagsmusic9290
@mateabagsmusic9290 3 месяца назад
Izincelebane lezinto zizincengela emabhunwini
@katlegoboshomane-b3x
@katlegoboshomane-b3x 3 месяца назад
❤ DA,ANC,IFP and NFP MK must be an opposition back 😂 benched 😂😂
@balu4681
@balu4681 3 месяца назад
People's interests of service delivery should be the guiding principles.
@Tiffany4Jesus1
@Tiffany4Jesus1 3 месяца назад
Useless interview if the main party, MK Party is not represented.
@RobertSithole-z4y
@RobertSithole-z4y 3 месяца назад
Yes I like this white man hi put people fast
@siyasonkembakampela9197
@siyasonkembakampela9197 3 месяца назад
😂😂hey politics
@Keylez1731
@Keylez1731 3 месяца назад
Any Government without MK in KZN is an insult to 45% united people of KZN, it’s more like playing with 🔥
@AlbertLEASA
@AlbertLEASA 3 месяца назад
When people voted in voting boothes only the voters alone so the filling of stadiums has nothing to do with the MK not winning KZN that is how politics are
@tsheponhlabatsi5690
@tsheponhlabatsi5690 3 месяца назад
So how does ANC force the kzn people to be led by alot they did not vote for. Xoli, can you be realistic as an african and stop being biased
@ThokozaniNtshangase-z4g
@ThokozaniNtshangase-z4g 3 месяца назад
We all know that Xoli is one of the puppets
@LuckyNzimande-w6c
@LuckyNzimande-w6c 3 месяца назад
We don't want DA
@biko8229
@biko8229 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, they are finding creative ways of imposing themselves on the people.
@grungle-ix8om
@grungle-ix8om 3 месяца назад
shame they will help you anyway
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
Who is we ??? Who died and made you God ...??? What do you want corruption....
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Many voters disagree with you. Can you accept this?
@jimmycricket5366
@jimmycricket5366 3 месяца назад
Who is we? ?😂😂😂😅
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 3 месяца назад
In KZN there is no question that MK will lead, this debate is useless
@lindzimcolzwane6761
@lindzimcolzwane6761 3 месяца назад
No it is Not as Simple as You Might Think. MK has 37 seats, EFF has 2, NFP 1, IFP 15, ANC 14, DA has 11. Please Do The Maths. MK and EFF makes 39 seats out of 80.
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 3 месяца назад
MK, IFP n EFF will do. DA must chill
@biko8229
@biko8229 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, media and the "markets" are playing a very big role in who will govern SA. The DA seems to be the favourite of the "markets" and the media. People are helpless as they watch their votes being given to the D.evils Alliance
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
IFP’s demand is simple they want the position of premier. Will MK give it to them? I doubt it.
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 3 месяца назад
@@biko8229 not in KZN, they will not get what they want, we the people of the province have no business with the DA, they are unfit to run a traditional province like KZN
@mateabagsmusic9290
@mateabagsmusic9290 3 месяца назад
Key points of NFP is boring there is nothing interesting from them
@emmamanuel1845
@emmamanuel1845 3 месяца назад
This anchor is one of those sellouts. I wonder how much he sold his soul for.
@mlondichiliza737
@mlondichiliza737 3 месяца назад
Sithule siyabuka abantu bedayisa ngamaVoti abantu kwizitha zabo.
@mabhubesintombela7600
@mabhubesintombela7600 3 месяца назад
cha, kuhle nithule ngempela ngoba asilifuni udlame la e kzn
@mlondichiliza737
@mlondichiliza737 3 месяца назад
@@mabhubesintombela7600 elodlame angisazike lungenaphi noma nawe sowathenga lomqondo wezintatheli ukuthi thina abaseNatal sinodlame kona thina amaZulu
@LesegoMofonga
@LesegoMofonga 3 месяца назад
Can Zuma rest, eish 😊
@XolaniNdlovu-d9f
@XolaniNdlovu-d9f 3 месяца назад
And Ramaphosa rise? You are dreaming...We are tired of loadshedding and being sold out to whites
@xman1533
@xman1533 3 месяца назад
MK and EFF 😂 on the cards i hope that marriage will lust because i see a disaster.
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 3 месяца назад
See- Historic speech! Chris Pappas addresses 10 000 DA supporters in KZN, RU-vid.
@biko8229
@biko8229 3 месяца назад
😅😂
@countmindlos
@countmindlos 3 месяца назад
That was just a comedy show😂
@SoultyBoiBeats
@SoultyBoiBeats 3 месяца назад
Who is this Chris Pappas anyway
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 3 месяца назад
@SoultyBoiBeats Why don't you see and judge for yourself, you will be amazed!! As the current Mayor of uMngeni Municipality in KZN, Chris Pappas (32) is doing some amazing work in turning uMngeni Municipality around!! There is even an Arte tv Documentary about him and his equally inspiring young Deputy Mayor, Sandile Mnikathi (28) on RU-vid!!
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 3 месяца назад
@@countmindlos Do you know that poor people in uMngeni Municipality now have solar powered street lights for safer communities and solar panels and inverters to assist them with load shedding??
@mvubu6823
@mvubu6823 3 месяца назад
MK would rather burn everything to the ground than follow the rules
3 месяца назад
Absolutely
@vovobani1708
@vovobani1708 3 месяца назад
Rules of rigged elections and water it down as if nothing happened.
@dandyally9983
@dandyally9983 3 месяца назад
Whose rules?
@Slayer-kx5fz
@Slayer-kx5fz 3 месяца назад
That's a lie for now. They have clearly been doing everything by the book so far. So, your statement is premature.
@mvubu6823
@mvubu6823 3 месяца назад
@@Slayer-kx5fz MK BOT We will see. They burnt the place once already....
@Luba_21
@Luba_21 3 месяца назад
Lies, it starts with our economy, the mines, banks, foreign and domestic policy, hospital access for all, and a decent living wage. All things that the DA opposes. The DA can't clean streets and roads for people in our townships but come here and push that it is what they stand for. I dare anyone to go to Gugulethu, Khayelitsha, Delft, Dunoon, etc and tell me any different. You fight unemployment, poverty, and crime by creating proper jobs for people
@senzomakhanya6085
@senzomakhanya6085 3 месяца назад
To me it seems like the DA is the one leading these talks😏
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Because they know they just have to give IFP the position of premier. Game over.
@sasha8664
@sasha8664 3 месяца назад
They are the only competent ones.But the Stubborn ones cant admit 😂
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
​@@sasha8664what makes da competence
@Qotha
@Qotha 3 месяца назад
@@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 colour
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx 3 месяца назад
Xoli is trying to sway Barnes towards his desired direction,glad he handle him very nice.
@LouisMkhize
@LouisMkhize 3 месяца назад
Majority of KZN people have spoken nd majority voted MK so a government without MK won't make sense.
@zamokuhlesindane1954
@zamokuhlesindane1954 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂. . .the likes of Xoli should just join political parties cause they're just not impartial journalist
@suesykes6798
@suesykes6798 3 месяца назад
Oh HELL! KZN is in for a loong bumpy ride!! Under the Racist party.
@GodfreyRaphela
@GodfreyRaphela 3 месяца назад
Points and facts counts not arogents of mk part
@dannymkwanazi4888
@dannymkwanazi4888 3 месяца назад
Xoli please take leadership on that chair, you sound like you are not neutral.You are not a politician please give direction
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Guys! Guys! Guys! This is simple. IFP wants the position of premier and something else important. Who will give it to them? The ANC and DA definitely will. They will also give NFP a good position. I see a majority.
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
Where do you get this nonsense from ....??
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
The best person to be the Premier is Chris Pappas....
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
ANC also does not have a lot of options. Either way they have to accept their municipalities being put under administration.
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Are you saying the IFP does not want the position of premier?
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Chris might be the best but nobody will support him. That is not how politics work.
@stevemutombo4655
@stevemutombo4655 3 месяца назад
This Xoli guy has an agenda wow😂😂😂
@vincymoe85
@vincymoe85 3 месяца назад
This one is not a journalist
@samkelomavuso8001
@samkelomavuso8001 3 месяца назад
He always wants to make MK a bad party kanti this wat makes love it more
@fofovela9196
@fofovela9196 3 месяца назад
Bra he is asking the DA solutions, while bad mouthing MK
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
DA is rushing for positions positions,they are like Ramaphosa who wanted president as a trophy in his CV nothing else 😢.
@mateabagsmusic9290
@mateabagsmusic9290 3 месяца назад
Nfp nicheme namabhunu nani siyanibona ma sellout
@lornameerkat7480
@lornameerkat7480 3 месяца назад
Pappas in KZN is a great of example of walking the walk and making changes. Who cares that he is with the DA and gay. He is an incredible young man who has proven his worth. I don't vote DA so Im not not biased. Im an ACDP supporter🙏
@Sidney-SEE
@Sidney-SEE 3 месяца назад
He needs to stop using the word competent and start using qualified, but I doubt he will ever because qualification is the standard required for some, competent for others.
@EdwinTsundzu
@EdwinTsundzu 3 месяца назад
Xolani is working for Anc.all this media is working openerhem. People voted mk tht,s all.try to accept tht
@BBB_BOYZ
@BBB_BOYZ 3 месяца назад
Wena DA stop trying to force ur self where u are not wanted
@bhamuzarodrigues5983
@bhamuzarodrigues5983 3 месяца назад
Uma wonke lama parties akwaZulu Natal angehlangana ashiye i mk ne eff bangafika ku 50% , bangaba omakhonya thina singahleka insini ngempela ngoba i mk ingakhala ngaphansi😁
@Kissmadolo
@Kissmadolo 3 месяца назад
mabhambham sithi thina be mk ' inkomo ingazala umuntu'' siyiphethe i kzn thina
@mashobane6177
@mashobane6177 3 месяца назад
​@@Kissmadolo aniyiphethe Uma ningafikanga Ku 50% . Kumele ne MK ihlangane nabanye ukuze ifike Ku 50.
@WardenBroe
@WardenBroe 3 месяца назад
Potholes ngazodlala ngathi priority
@BBB_BOYZ
@BBB_BOYZ 3 месяца назад
Liyaphi lelibhasi eniligibelayo we NFP
@silaskhalishwayo
@silaskhalishwayo 3 месяца назад
All the parties that goes with DA end up dying
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Because people realize that they deliver.
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 месяца назад
Delivery of what 😂
@stevemutombo4655
@stevemutombo4655 3 месяца назад
The constitution is not some Bible, it can be scrapped, re-written, amended They are even muting Barnes😂😂😂
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
No it can't be scrapped....your knowledge of a constitution is limited , go a do more research and enlighten yourself ....
@runningman2989
@runningman2989 3 месяца назад
You know who also scrapped the constitution? Hitler, Mugabe, Stalin, Mao. I can go on
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
Well only of you have a 2/3rds majority. I believe the ANC, EFF and MK do not teach this threshold.
@jimmycricket5366
@jimmycricket5366 3 месяца назад
​@@thomasprogli3372that's true, they wouldn't even reach two thirds. Pathetic. Lots of noise like empty containers.
@stevemutombo4655
@stevemutombo4655 3 месяца назад
@leopillay3690 Why can it not be scrapped? If you have the 2 3rds majority, you can. SA is not the only country with a constitution, countries change their constitution all the time. Nothing special
@KwaneleFenqane-fb5me
@KwaneleFenqane-fb5me 3 месяца назад
Unxamalala wayibeka kakuhle lento wathi yonke leMibutho ilwela nje iPosition they really don't care about us its clear ngok MK is the only party that will free black majority
@leopillay3690
@leopillay3690 3 месяца назад
It's clear that you are like a sheep following the goat .....
@katlegoboshomane-b3x
@katlegoboshomane-b3x 3 месяца назад
Zuma family must be away with public purse in KZN
@msizingubane9861
@msizingubane9861 3 месяца назад
I find it hard to believe that MK didn’t get over 50% in Natal after their showing nationally. There’s seriously something wrong with IEC
@eliudnkuna3930
@eliudnkuna3930 3 месяца назад
Give us proof..without proof u hallucinating as usual
@alfredchandinga4094
@alfredchandinga4094 3 месяца назад
The results were possibly choreographed so that MK doesn't come out the outright winner. How is it possible that MK won almost 95% of all the voting districts of KZN, but then the tally comes to 45%? There definitely are clear indications of some "Rigging Something Something" especially in KZN. If the ANC with 40% at National is having the audacity to suggest a GNU; why can't MK with 45% in KZN be left to form a Provincial Government in KZN? How is DA going to deal with Phala-Phala since they are singing "Rule of law and Constitutionality?" Is it the DA's Joker card for removing Cyril post the fake GNU arrangement?
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 3 месяца назад
Please DA dont even think that ull take charge in KZN
@runningman2989
@runningman2989 3 месяца назад
Its happening. Keep crying 😂. Zuma will never go to parliament
@Meh----bleh44
@Meh----bleh44 3 месяца назад
​@@runningman2989😂😂😂😂 yes he's been banned for 5 years and he might not live for long
@musawenkosicele9621
@musawenkosicele9621 3 месяца назад
IEC created all this rubbish including ramaphosa nokhongolose wakhe ziholwa umakhalempongo owuzondo, i hope bayalazi lelibhodwe abaliphekayo lophumelaphi ngoba ei history will judge them one day
@sduduzoshange5477
@sduduzoshange5477 3 месяца назад
Hopefully the IFP doesn't agree to this nonsense. This will split the province in two. This will only impact the IFP negatively
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
The ANC and DA will give IFP the position of premier. Will Mk do the same?
@MBReader410
@MBReader410 3 месяца назад
IFP has far more to gain from leading the province in coalition they can trust, focussed on clean government and delivery.
@KhulekaniZondi
@KhulekaniZondi 3 месяца назад
Not all of us in KZN, voted MK party!
@MuziNinela-zd8zp
@MuziNinela-zd8zp 3 месяца назад
I DA akuyona into ongaxoxa nayo uhlaya kuphela olungazi ukuthi yasenzani iNational party
@superflyphones9058
@superflyphones9058 3 месяца назад
Black people don't have to help resist DA, please KZN people IFP, NFP and EFF never let us down,
@tonitappous2422
@tonitappous2422 3 месяца назад
See - Historic speech! Chris Pappas addresses 10 000 DA supporters in KZN, RU-vid.
@sibongileviolet887
@sibongileviolet887 3 месяца назад
​@@tonitappous2422Asifune pappas la 4get
@thomasprogli3372
@thomasprogli3372 3 месяца назад
IFP is the only party of relevance here and they want the position of premier and some other important cabinet. Will the MK comply because believe me, the ANC and the DA will. The cherry on top is that the NFP gets a good position as well.
@fanamlawuli6761
@fanamlawuli6761 3 месяца назад
@@thomasprogli3372 how do get the position of premier with 18%? You settlers are ridiculous
@mashobane6177
@mashobane6177 3 месяца назад
​​@@fanamlawuli6761 they can get it , if they can be in coalition with other parties. That is how it works.
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