Panel Upgrade from 150A to 200A + A New Electric Vehicle Charging NEMA 14-50 Receptacle and Circuit

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In this video I upgrade an original 150 AMP panel to a 200 AMP panel by Square D QO. After the panel upgrade I installed a new 50-AMP GFCI-protected circuit for a new electric vehicle charger. I hope you enjoy this video and if you do please like & subscribe. Thank you.
Classic Electric, LLC | Point Pleasant, New Jersey
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Ron Pecina Jr. is a licensed electrician in the state of New Jersey. This allows him to apply for electrical permits, work with live conductors, remove meters, and disconnect service from the utility company. New Jersey observes the 2020 NEC and the Uniform Construction Code. The majority of the work seen here on this channel falls under the Rehabilitation Sub Code (Chapter 6 of the U.C.C.).
ALL New Jersey licensed electricians MUST complete 34-hours of continuing education units each tricentennial period. This includes a mandatory 10-hour code update course. Any work above 10-volts requires an electrical license in New Jersey.
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@paulcarlsen4088 Год назад

Come on Milwaukee, sponsor him! A tradesman who takes pride in his work.

@electricalron Год назад

Yes! I will put any tool sent my way to the test! Free swag!!!!😊

@thomascannan1033 Год назад

Milwaukee I actually thought you sponsored Ron, each and every post he makes he implores the quality of Milwaukee tools...Challenge me, I dare you...Ron is a Deep Red Milwaukee Purist!

@qv6486 Год назад

@@electricalron Ufer's First Name was actually Herbert and not John.

@feelingtardy Год назад

title should be, electrician with decades of experience finally discovers brady labels, lol. just bustin your balls man.

@TanerH Год назад

Always love watching your videos, Ron!

@bagramfacilities Год назад

Great video as always Ron, thanks.

@vince6829 Год назад

Nice job as always. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@dsummer3770 Год назад

Awesome work Ron, keep videos rolling, thanks

@velocity91 Год назад

Another great video Ron. I learn something from each one and truly respect your workmanship.

@johnduffy532 Год назад

Nice job Ron!

@trardo890 Год назад

Great content!

@richardwesley3601 Год назад

Very nice video like watching your videos

@inthegarage.withalvaro.1344 8 месяцев назад

I love your videos, learning a ton. Thank you..

@Mcfryguy5555 Год назад

Looks good

@gregratliff6450 Год назад

Nice 👍

@robertlivolsi5722 Год назад

another great video ron, every week im excited for a new vid

@electricalron Год назад

Thanks Robert! I’m glad you enjoy the videos!

@andrugator Год назад

great work. very happy we insisted on 40-spaces 200A siemens in our 1950s rewire

@FrontRowOrBust Год назад

Always lookin forward to another upload, Rob

@thomascannan1033 Год назад

9:38 forward.....My OCD thanks you for trimming back the wires, good Man!

@ptso7580 Год назад

Not watchibg you dealing with a overhead service entrance is kinda weird. As always respect for the clean work and grinding it out. Thanks Ron. 😊

@jragadio Год назад

Great video Ron. 1. Please don’t turn up the music too loud. It’s a little distracting. 2. I know the 4 square raised crush cover probably bonds the 14-50 receptacle, but you wouldn’t rather have a direct EGC connection to the receptacle? 3. A torque screwdriver is a must nowadays. There isn’t just a danger in undertorquing, but also in overtorquing. I went to a trade show once where the Leviton booth had electricians compare what they thought was a good torque to what a calibrated torque driver had and they were all over the place. 4. Any reason to not use plug on neutral panels now to at least provide the option to use GFCI or AFCI circuit breakers? Cutting the neutrals short to the ground/neutral bus bar prevents using GFCI or AFCI circuit breakers in the future because they are too short.

@mcarroll598 Год назад

I’ve been doing commercial industrial for 25 years and the WIRE MARKERS are the way to go. They also sell letters and different number configurations booklets.

@Pippy626 Год назад

Love your work. I can’t stand how builders leave the wires exposed and don’t put them in a wire trough.

@andrewdimauro7352 Год назад

Great video, I remember in another recent video you mentioned you’re getting burned out from all the work. I hope you get some time to put your feet up and spend time with the family.

@stevencole7331 Год назад

It's interesting how installations can be different depending on the location . The exposed Romex going into the panel would need to be covered up here in socal . Usually done with a bit of framing and drywall but of course a gutter would be allowed . Also being so dry in my area I usually run emt for exposed locations . It's funny how the code is interpreted depending where you are . Nice work . Very efficient .

@aaron74 Год назад

Really, no exposed Romex whatsoever, huh? That's usually the rule of Romex in general (no surface mounting of it), but it seems entry into a surface-mounted panel is a sort of exception every place I've seen it.

@stevencole7331 Год назад

@@aaron74 Things like attics ok even though crawling in one you can walk and crawl over them on a regular bases . I believe drop down tbar ceilings are not allowed . The term in the code subject to damage is quite vague to interpretation and it seems a specific location rights it's own interpretation of the code .

@aaron74 Год назад

@@stevencole7331 I've always just imagined that Romex can only run in spaces that can (but not necessarily will) be covered by drywall. So it can go in stud and joist bays or truss webs.

@stevencole7331 Год назад

@@wizard3z868 Another example I could never use is that service cable. Most times I have to uses Ridgid pipe which is used as a mast to secure the overhead triplex to . That's more of a southern California Edison issue .

@thatguy4320 Год назад

I like to use Leviton receptacles for my installations I like their products especially their gfci’s

@sherwinalvarez7365 Год назад

FoH Ron. Lettem know they calibrate torque tools with your hands.

@Demy26 Год назад

11k subs 🎉🎉🎉🎉

@KRTube75 Месяц назад

Hubbell HBL9450A or Bryant 9450FR torqued to 75 in-lbs. Both are made by Hubbell. Leviton has an EV rated 14-50R now as well. P/N 1450R. I can't find one so I haven't used it yet. The leviton site says made in china. The Hubbel/Bryant are made in the USA.

@troyfall6573 Год назад

good video. The new Tesla wall chargers are hardwired. No need to install the Nema 14-50 if you choose that wall charger. 48Amps. It looks like this customer has a different EV and installed. The Nema 14-50 is great if you going to use the portable charger.

@FrontRowOrBust Год назад

When you’re ready to get a torquing screwdriver, look into the Wiha 28506. It ranges from 10-50 inch pounds and I love it

@rmac2592 Год назад

Wiha makes great tools but EV receptacles require more than 50 in LB. My Bryant torques specs at 75

@the74impala Год назад

Try the 12V Fuel saw. It handles plywood and 2x easy, and weighs less.

@rmac2592 Год назад

HI Ron - thanks for all the videos! Not sure if it was edited out, but I did not see a ground connection to the 14-50 receptacle, only to the 4" metal box. BTW - I installed a Bryant 14-50 receptacle on my EV installation. Subsidiary of Hubbell and identical equipment for about 60% of the price.

@electricalron Год назад

The box is grounded and when the cover is attached to the box the receptacle becomes grounded.

@iandrew6347 Год назад

Hi Sir that would be a no no in U.K. the way you put the green ground wire into your panel with out putting a stuffing gland on it the way you did it just pushing it through a metal knock out . Very interesting how you use a impact driver to tighten up your breakers as well . Love learning about usa 🇺🇸 regulations keep up the amazing work and videos . Watching from the U.K.

@electricalron Год назад

That opening is designed specifically for the grounding electrode conductor as shown in the video.

@aaron74 Год назад

No harm no foul in the USA; we don't insulate or sleeve ground (earth) like you guys in the UK do. An insulated ground conductor is more of an exception than the rule here. So it doesn't matter if the insulation were abraded by a sharp knockout!

@GlenMacNeil 5 месяцев назад

Someone might have asked already but I'm curious why you didn't run a ground from the receptacle back to the panel on this one? Another great job. Thanks for sharing.

@kylegagnon-rs2lt Год назад

Nice work was confused when u said inch and a half hole for 200 amp but the pipe was existing good thing u used copper aluminum would of never fit haha

@jimanderson4495 Год назад

Thanks Ron. You are a true craftsman. Can you recycle the breakers from the old panel I’d do they end up in the landfill?

@electricalron Год назад

They wind up on my van for years until I need one for a service call. They’re only eleven years old. No sense in throwing them in the trash. The panels in good condition too but I only have so much room to store used equipment like this. Maybe a job will come along where they don’t mind buying used equipment but I definitely don’t want to be in the business of installing old/ used equipment.

@afzalhakeen4941 9 месяцев назад

the electrical inspector didnt passed my work at the panelbox once becuz i taped service wires with white tape also he wanted plywood and drywall behind for the new 200 amp panelbox

@MasterShiFu714 Год назад

Great work brother 👍

@edwinlandy Год назад

Hey Ron - Thanks for putting out these videos! I learn something new each time. Would terminating the GEC to the service enclosure go against 200.2(B) in your area? I've only seen them terminated to a neutral bar.

@electricalron Год назад

The GEC is different from the grounded neutral.

@edwinlandy Год назад

@@electricalron might be over thinking it, but I was thinking that there is always a little current making it's way back to the transformer through ground (PoCo connects the primary and secondary system winding neutrals to ground) , and since the neutral is bonded to the service equipment enclosure, this current would need to travel through the enclosure from the neutral to make it's way back.

@martinblank4250 Год назад

Hey Ron, thanks for the excellent video! I feel like I have a much better handle on this project for the future. I have a quick question: I need to run an overhead line from the house to the garage for general stuff - it's about 80 feet. Exactly what wire should I use to do this (I heard something about XHHW-10-7STR-CU)? Isn't there a single "Romex-type" 12-2 or something that will work without running three separate wires? Thank you sir...

@stevenbouldin-be8lw Год назад

What is the average cost to upgrade from 150 to 200 amp? Your videos are very informative.. Thanks SB.

@Lanceb131 Год назад

Question please, what's you opinion on Wago lever nuts please? Let me know TIA. Great video as always!

@raitchison Год назад

I need to have my main breaker panel replaced but the problem is that as soon as the job was signed off by building and safety the county would reassess my house at the current (absurd) property value and my property taxes would go up by more than $1000 every year.

@niqachu Год назад

Hello ron i love your videos and how clean your work is. Do you service the bronx area and how much does an upgrade like this would cost?

@electricalron Год назад

Sorry, I’m not licensed in New York.

@brianbushay8283 Год назад

Couldn't you have just swapped the 150 amp main for a 200 amp main and upgraded the service wire?

@brianmohammed1790 Год назад

hey ron cool video right now iam in fl the house i in one day the curiit breker trip what cuse the breker to trip

@stevtoyou9 Год назад

Ron, If the service panel was located in the basement on the other side of the house, do you use the same method with PVC conduit or romex cabling?

@petekrz Год назад

Why no ground on the 14-50 receptacle? I understand you have to bond the ground to the box, why not pigtail to the receptacle?

@Rockabuy2002 Год назад

Nice vid. Curious why customer did not go to 200 amp? Facing the same issue myself. Have 100 amp, go to 150 or 200? Lights dim when ac kicks on.

@auser1922 Год назад

They did go to 200A. For your issue you may want to consider installing a hard start kit on your condenser unit, much cheaper.

@mikewhittaker5984 Год назад

Ron I love your videos but the music not so much

@michaeldavid2320 Год назад

Yea, I much prefer the voice over to the music. But really enjoy the channel content.

@willa3043 11 месяцев назад

Hi Ron, is a Surge Protection device required to pass nj inspection?

@justinramirez8663 10 месяцев назад

When I got my Tesla Charger installed I chose a Bryant 14-50 Receptacle:)

@electricalron 10 месяцев назад

Its all depends on the installation. Bryant 14-50's fail too. Sorry to surprise you with that information.

@justinramirez8663 10 месяцев назад

@@electricalron Not surprised at all. Everything fails at some point. Just happy I didn’t get a Leviton from home depot.

@Bob.W. Год назад

2012 home with 150 amps/30 spaces. Smaller house?

@ice4278 Год назад

Hey Ron what size copper are you using from the meter to the electrical Panel

@electricalron Год назад

2/0 copper

@johnstrh1 Год назад

you were in my neck of the woods! My shop is out of old bridge. Question for you, my boss has started making me put outdoor disconnects on all of my services because he said it is now code. Is this something that is coming down the pipeline or is he just out of his mind?

@electricalron Год назад

In New Jersey here the exterior disconnect is NOT required for existing service upgrades. NJ Rehab sub code, chapter 6 of the Uniform Construction Code.

@josea.morataya721 5 месяцев назад

Hey , Thanks for your great videos. Question I am converting my two car garage to a small house. ADU in Los Angeles CA Si my question is I had to upgrade my main electrical panel from 100am to 200. Code in Ca ask for a EV DEDICATED CIRCUIT. What do they mean by that ? Do I need to run wire or just leave an open slot for an 50am breaker?? Thank Ron But I heard the

@electricalron 5 месяцев назад

Check with your bldg dept.

@qcsupport2594 Год назад

Sorry if it's a dumb question (I'm not a pro) - but how come in the 15-50 you don't have to attach the ground to the receptacle's ground lug?

@alvilla701 Год назад

It depends, the ENC says no, but you city could require it, I always connect the ground to everything that could become energized (box and receptacle in this case), although I personally believe I don't need to

@qcsupport2594 Год назад

@@blakesanders2671 thanks!

@stevemaynard7397 11 месяцев назад

What was the cost of the upgrade

@djaliendenis Год назад

Music too loud

@branco9320 Год назад

Do you or would you come to Bayonne in Hudson county? I know you’re in point pleasant which is a little ways away

@electricalron Год назад

I could go to Bayonne or refer you to local electrician right there in Bayonne.

@branco9320 Год назад

@@electricalron yes can you recommend a local electrician.

@branco9320 Год назад

Hey Ron, I really need that recommendation. Thanks I like that u explain the difference between electrician and electrical contractor. I need an electrician

@aaron74 Год назад

Seems odd a 2012-built house wouldn't have already had a 200A panel. That looked like a pretty straightforward upgrade being really close to the meter and the van. Those $100 Hubbell/Bryant 9450 receptacles are kind of snake oil in my opinion. They do have very good terminations on the back of them where you use an Allen wrench to tighten the lugs, and they might have more metal contact with the plug inside. But my question is how often do EV owners plug/unplug their charger from the receptacle? You plug it in and forget about it unless or until you need to replace the charger.

@JasonEDragon Год назад

@@Ampacityelectric The following Munro Live video ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tDp9PhPJhUI.html ) had some electricians review some 14-50 receptacle failures for EVs. I'd be concerned about using a receptacle that was designed a decade or 2 ago for a range and then have it be used for an EV - which may be under full load for several hours. Especially in a garage you typically won't stay there when the device is in use - even worse you may often be asleep. The best solution would be to hardwire EV charges and avoid the receptacle completely.

@aaron74 Год назад

@@JasonEDragon That is a sobering video, thanks for sharing that. I had no idea. Yeah I think all those standards agencies NFPA, UL, CSA, and NEMA are going to need to engineer EV-specific electrical materials. For 50 amp sustained loads.

@TKomoski Год назад

This customer that found you on RU-vid ask if his job would be posted on RU-vid ?

@garycunningham8478 6 месяцев назад

Why didn’t you just use the same name panel you took out so you can use the same breakers

@electricalron 6 месяцев назад

Because that would be like buying a new pair of sneakers and using laces from your old sneakers.

@throttlebottle5906 Год назад

"the gfci's from pass & seymour, I've always seemed to have a bad experience with them". funny you say that, because I recently had a new GFCI, that's stuck on, it won't trip with test button, tester or other means of ground faulting. the light says it's in working order and it's passing power through out the load terminals also. it's a "Legrand" brand. also within the last year, I've had numerous others with random issues, some wouldn't reset, some the LED's do nothing regardless of state, some test buttons didn't work, but a tester would trip them. just a mixed bag of trash, from all brands. how do we trust any of them to actually work if needed? not like we have lab grade test rigs with us. 🤬💩

@Framdark Год назад

Do you get anything from Milwaukee for how much stuff you buy from them? I mean all the power tools pack out etc must’ve cost a ton of money I hope they’ve given u something for how much buisness you give them

@electricalron Год назад

I’ve got a couple T-shirts 😂😂😂

@Framdark Год назад

@@electricalron only a couple t shirts they do not treat their number one customer well