@@godisalie7022 First off... who said anything about socialism, you pesky and presumptuous moron? Also, try reading up on libertarian socialism... or literally anything, you Dunning-Kruger alumni, then maybe give people your crummy 2c. Go be a Big Brain in another comment section.
@@godisalie7022 Anarchism is in opposition to hierarchy. The class hierarchy that allows the capitalist ruling class to dominate and exploit the working class is a hierarchy, an unjust and oppressive one, that would not exist in an anarchist society. Capitalism could not exist within an anarchist society as a result. But an economic system where the work place is owned collectively by those who work it, and the production of goods and necessities is organized to maximize meeting the needs of the people rather than the profit of the few? That'd work.
GOD DAMN THIS BAND IS KICKASS!! LYRICS Rise up, spirit of my ancestry. Fill me with vigilance again. No longer will we watch from our posts. Torches of war burn this eve. For those who possess undue power lurk in our midst, with innocent blood on their sleeves. Their slaves labor into nothingness, lost in the abyss of factories. The gods are replaced with commodities unfit to occupy their thrones. Their rightful place. We bow our heads to mere currency. Our apathy allows capitalism to enslave. The price of our freedom is the essence of our slavery. The master I've served will never repay me. There's poison in the communion wine. In this theocracy we will all die. Worship false idols. Currency in our veins... The bow breaks in this ship of fools. Capitalism enslaves Paid in blood...... Tonight, all flags must burn in place of steeples. Autonomy must return into the hands of the people. This is war on our oppressors. The concept of capitalism robs us of our very nature. Destroys our tribes, torn apart our families. Gagged and bound, we slit the throat of the henchman then laugh at the contradiction. Falsify our inspiration, numbed by media. The tools for complacency market our fucking rebellion. Behold, the chains of profit. There is nothing sacred! We are convinced that we are free because we are not starving. But our souls starve for something more than profits and convenience. We starve for truth, we starve for earth, we starve for freedom and untainted skies. How long will we swallow the shit that they feed us? How long will they rape our ears with their lies? I will not surrender my heart to anyone but me. There are only a few things that I believe: that people are born free and slavery is murder, property is theft and government is tyranny: anarchy is liberty. Liberation! Tonight all flags must burn in place of steeples. Autonomy must return to the hands of the people!
The song is perfect, but the images don´t fit with the ideology of the band. This band reflects more like Thoreau´s thoughts, and don´t have nothing to do with comunists symbols used here, or with idiot fights of a group aganist nazists and shit. This song is the song of freedom, and obviously doesn´t care about political structures. Please, review the images you are using here.
Ok, when I get a time, I´ll read some interviews. Now, just the music for me is enough. And I understand and respect your point about right-wing, but for me any wing is shit, doesn´t matter if it is left or right, you´ll always be manipulated with this discourse of good versus evil...
I don't think you understand the lyrics, because the band very much cares about political structures... Enough to make this song against one. And he also sings about class struggles and the likes.
I suppose the thing is that statist communism sounds good, it sounds like it stands up for the working classes and seeks equality. In principle I wouldn't disagree with the concept of "communism" but I would always disagree with a statist communism, with a vanguard party oppressing the people as statist communism always leads to.
Statist communism is a oxymoron my friend. At least by what I (and no less, Marx) make of it. Also, I don't think a vanguard party is a de facto bad thing, Cuba has pretty damn successfully implemented it and their direct democracy model is unparalleled by anything representative democracy in the west has ever achieved.
Yes, yes, you can see some inspiration perhaps, but he seems to lean more towards -syndicalism, if you look at (for example) his defiance towards wage labour. In that way the bands shares at least some aspects of socialism.
ES BUENA BANDA PERO CREO QUE LA MUSICA Y LA LETRA NO CONCUERDA, NO LO PLANTEO DE UN MODO POLITICO SINO MERAMENTE ARTISTICO. IGUAL, MIENTRAS NO LE METAN CRISTIANISMO AL BLACK METAL NO ME GENERA MOLESTIA.
It doesn´t mean that the band support political flags, including comunism. He is citting anarchy here as a way to reach personal liberty and a way to struggle aganist the implemented system. I see here much of Thoreau´s ideals. Do you know Thoreau?
I must say I'm inclined to agree to some extent, this band appear to be much more of the Anarcho-Primitivist strain, I find the symbols of communism(Sovietism) are nearly as bad as the Nazis swastika, nearly as bad. Certainly communism isn't the ideology I'd fight for.
Depends on what you understand by Communism. After nearly a century of anti communist propaganda, the meaning is kind of all over the place in most people's minds.
@@robertstan298actually at some point in history, communists and anarchist clashed with great violence. From assassination, to declared war, like the red army attacking them in Ukraine, in Kronstadt around 1917, and in Spain, against the Anarchist revolution involving the CNT/FAI (Confederation national del travajo/Federacion Anarchista Iberica).
Guys, they´re talking about ANARCHY ( = NO government, no rulers)! This has nothing to do with communism and "leftism" in the first place. When I say I don´t want someone to tell me what I have to do and think, I surely don´t mean I need a communist to do it anyway. ;-) Just read the lyrics of this song, this is a pleading for self-determination, nothing more or less. And this definitely IS a theme for Black Metal and extreme metal in general, because it´s based on LHP.
Anarchy by itself isn't much of an ideology, most people who are anarchists are leftists except ancaps, but capitalism requires and creates hierarchy so most anarchists don't consider them real anarchists. These guys seem like anarcho communists or libertarian socialists
Anarchy is a part of leftism, actually. It's a kind of stateless communism. Anarchists agree with communist on every point about their vision of ideal communism, but not the perception of state. To communists, the state has to be used in order to bring communism, and disappear then. To anarchists, the state has to be destroyed immediately, and achieve communism through masses self organisations, from town "Commune" to a network federation of surrounding communes. Without property or authority.
