Panoramic Photography DO WE NEED THIS?

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In this weeks video, I test whether we need to buy a Nodal Slide or not!
I created a "HOW TO" guide on how to take the perfect Panoramic image last year ( • How to photograph Pano... ). A few people moaned because I failed to use a Nodal Slide. tut tut!
To stop the so-called experts moaning I even pinned the reason why I don't use the tool.
What really get's up my goat is the amount of regurgitated nonsense that appears on RU-vid. So-called experts repeating other peoples knowledge without even knowing if the information they're copying is even right! They do it in pursuit of RU-vid views. They do it to bolster their own channel. Professional courtesy prevents me from naming and shaming!
Anyway, to finally put the myth to bed I wasted my money and went out and bought a Nodal Slide just so I could extensively test whether or not we need to use one in the endeavour of creating the perfect panoramic landscape image!
Nodal Sliders are worth every penny and they are an invaluable tool to some photographers. They're just worth using to capture subjects that are a fair distance away from the camera. In other words, Landscape Photographers!
I'm happy to hear your opinion.
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@linjicakonikon7666 Месяц назад

There is nothing like the visual impact and elegant simplicity of a 6x17 color transparency.

@ivarschiager8529 2 года назад

I always carry one of my sliders with me. They are great for macro, too. At 10:50 you are wrong about how to set the nodal point. It it is NOT perpendicular under the front element! It depends on the lense you use. (This will only be correct if your lense is made of one element, - the front element) This way you make the opposite misallignment. The easiest way to determine the nodal point is just look through the viewfinder, rotate the camera and adjust the slider till you see no difference in the background. On my Nikon Z 24-70 f:4 I think the nodal point will stay at the same position no matter whether it's at 24 or 70 mm.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I think that's the point I'm making here Ivar. The background is a mile or so away, it's not going to change even handheld.

@ivarschiager8529 2 года назад

@@GaryGough In my panoramas I usually want to get some interesting elements in the foreground, too. If I don't use the nodal point for rotation, I will get stiching imperfections. But when using the slider, I can be sure I "never" run into troubles. It is not waisted money, but it can be a waist of time if I don't bring it with me. I mostly don't stand on the top of a mountain, even here in Norway. :-)

@MattSchulze 2 года назад

A nodal slider makes very little sense when you are making panos where the camera is trained on distant mountains or other landscapes. Modern software is smart enough to deal with the few distortions that may occur. Where a nodal slider can help is when you have close foreground objects in your frame. It may make it easier for the software to deal with the parallax shift that will inevitably occur and prevent stitching errors. There is a place for everything and it all depends on what your doing and what your objectives are. Just my two cents.

@jimrinaldi8357 2 года назад

I've seen some professionals who swear that you have to have this slider to get good panos. I don't have one and have always been satisfied with my results. Never was brave enough to try making one hand-held though, until seeing your results. So I just tried one and was surprised that Lightroom produced an excellent result with no complaining. Thank you for a very informative video.

@bernym4047 Год назад

Interesting that at one point, you added a polarising filter. I'm guessing that is because it was an overcast day and you wanted to increase colour saturation in the water and wet rocks. On a sunny day a polariser plays havoc with panoramas and varies the luminosity of the sky, dependent on the direction. However, an excellent test. Practice makes perfect is the maxim for creating panoramas. I find I can get few errors in leveling when hand holding by using the leveling indicator in my camera and overlapping 50%.. Thanks for another great video.

@GaryGough Год назад

I probably used the polariser just to reduce the light in the sky. It saps around a stop and a half of light. Great if you're looking to extend your shutter.

@davidabbott6786 2 года назад

Based on my own experience, I've also concluded that a nodal slide is of marginal value, except for maybe shots with some closeup items in them. Just as a technical issue though, I don't think it's necessary to level the camera, just level the base that the camera sits on. The image that you want to capture may not be in the same plane as your camera, so it would be necessary to tilt the camera up or down, but as long as the base of camera is level it will produce a perfectly horizontal image as you rotate the camera.

@davidfrost3770 2 года назад

Brilliant video Gary A footballer would answer critics on the pitch by scoring a goal, you got your point over with that last shot that said what i think you felt about it all. it was a stunner. Like your style in covering this topic. 😄

@iamSAKhan 2 года назад

Thanks Gary for doing this for us, appreciated!

@andyallard5990 2 года назад

Excellent and very educational thanks very much for taking the time out to do this video very much appreciated.

@dobro2407 2 года назад

I watched another clip about nodal points and I reckoned I could get close to the same effect using my 'L' bracket and a bit of imaginative mounting. I didn't manage to get the front element on the turning point but I did get quite close. Like you, I didn't see any difference. If there is anything in the foreground that you absolutely MUST have, just go back a little so that it is included in the final result. Good video, Gary.

@wallywaller11 2 года назад

Great Vlog Gary , I would agree with most, don't buy one unless you have unlimited funds and wish to waste money or you are a total gadget person. Just another thing to carry in your camera bag to impress the unknowledgeable people in this world. Keep up the vLogs love watching these type of things they put it straight, bulls*it or not.

@my-infrareds 2 года назад

good explanation and interesting results

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Thank you!

@marcvalade94 2 года назад

I am more into intimate landscape and use only two primes. I need from time to time to stitch to mitigate my limited focal lenghts. I append to come back with a good number of incapability to stitch my shot when I forget to use my slide properly. Yet the main reason for this is due to the physical lenght of my lense in relation to it's actual focal lenght. If both would be close to eachother, then I would not have as many problem at all. Most lense don't have such a difference, so most people won't see an issue as you say. Especially for shooting distant subjects.

@nickyfoulkes8476 2 года назад

Don't you just love it when your right. Shame I was looking forward to enjoying that "pie" or is it "pye" or R squared. You always say "Keep it simple". Great demonstration & I am glad as it more to carry.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I'm glad too. I carry enough crap around as it is :)

@EdwardKilner 2 года назад

Very lovely, that last location, and a well done pano. I do have a fancy but woefully underused nodal rig that can do marvellous tricks. I have done some nice work on top of Table Mountain in Cape Town. Got the rig on my first trip there because I did not know if I would get a 2nd chance. It, and a multi-row effort in Franshoek and one in Pretoria turned out well. But, as you point out, most of the time, the steps you took will do the job. Thanks for the video.

@davidpearce2981 2 года назад

Good demonstration gary , definitely with you on this, I’ve never had a problem

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers Mr Pearce 👍👍

@vzshadow1 2 года назад

Great video. Awesome locations. Very informative. Keep up the good work.

@GregShaw 11 месяцев назад

I just found this great video as I am exploring the benefits of a nodal slider. Great video btw really liked your no fluff approach and stunning pictures, you've got a new subscriber!

@markburger9784 2 года назад

Gary, do you mind if I ask what type of ball-head you are using? I’m really liking it. Thank you.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

This is a list of the gear I'm currently using... garygough.co.uk/my-photography-gear

@JohnHPettigrewFujishooter67 2 года назад

Brilliant Gary, and what a way to prove a point, what a stunning image. well done my friend.

@andrewcroft2570 Год назад

Gary, absolutely fantastic my humble opinion the moral is don't buy something that you do not need. Buy the stuff that will help you be a better photographer. 😁

@Benderlaiv 2 года назад

For me the biggest benefit of a nodal slider is how easy it is to balance the camera on even the weakest ball heads, even with the heaviest of lenses, and it is way more stable in winds. I can use smaller, lighter, cheaper tripods with good results. By the way I thought it was the entrance pupil you have to center, not the front lens?

@MarianoPulgar Год назад

Hi Gary, thank you so much for this content. Such a spectacular location, with great editing, and beautiful music.

@davidskinner274 2 года назад

Lens correction prior to stitching, I find most beneficial in getting a lovely stitched image.

@stephenballam5593 2 года назад

Brilliant Gary. You've just saved me a bit of money there. I've been contemplating whether to get one of these. I think I'll use the money to fill the tank and get me and the gear (minus nodal slider) out somewhere over the next couple of weeks. Great shots, by the way.

@99sixstring 2 года назад

Ok, you don´t use one. That´s fine. To me, it helps me a lot, using a tripod, a L-bracket and a slider...and that´s no problem for me. I used to shoot panos "free hand" but using a slider and setting up my lenses / camera, it reduced my failure-panos and coz I shoot also macros, the slider is here and is used. That´s one point u missed: a slider is fantastic for macro shootings, to control the focus point, it´s not a one trick pony. thx for the vid and the examples. a little respect for / from both point of views, would be a real effort ;-) peace!

@thomastuorto9929 2 года назад

Depends what objects are in the photo & how close. But with that said the software does a great at the alignment of the photos. I had a manmade object in a commercial fishing port (object was about 300-400' away) where the top & bottom of the object was off a little. It wasn't anything that mattered & I probably was going to remove it anyway. And so I did.

@johntaylor38 Месяц назад

Yes very good Garry , what tripod head are you using friend.....?😊

@ianlivermore2981 2 года назад

Can’t be arsed carrying more stuff about to be honest. You showed you don’t need that thing slider. Anyway gary superb shot as always. For the life of me I tried finding that place when I was in glencoe a cpl of years ago. How far is it from the 3 sisters view point any ideas?

@JayGrapherTh 2 года назад

in curious on the 2nd? image with the house being closer - some how the slider made the house look bigger? how is that possible? in the end it seems all gatekeeping to demand someone use a certain gear to make "correct" images, if it is to be truly "correct" then why not a shifting mechanism like the old film days stitching one end to the other? or even a single shot then cropping to have that wide aspect ratio. though, Im curious on the last image where the mountain in the middle looks strangely stretched-warped maybe, is it to do with the mix of wide angle lens and the camera pointing down?

@monkeysausage2404 2 года назад

Back in the day the software was pants so a nodel was very much beneficial. These days the software is pretty remarkable.

@stevenwhite921 2 года назад

Interesting vlog Gary just one question if l may..did you test and find the Parallax point for the 35mm focal length that you used

@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY 2 года назад

very professional.. thanks for the nice comparison and now I don't need to buy nodal slide..

@bruceschmunk4527 2 года назад

What about doing a vertical pano?

@thescot1163 2 года назад

Great Video Gary, I'm with you not needing any more hardware to make great pano's. Think some people have been suckered in to believing the marketing spin.

@jamesurzykowski4918 11 месяцев назад

I agree that you don’t need a nodal slider. I also have taken pano’s without a tripod. Sometimes you have the opportunity to shoot a panoramic picture and you may not be carrying a tripod. So just try it.

@sonicmistress 6 месяцев назад

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't, depends on what you are taking pics of, there is no definative way to do things, it's all personal choice, it's easier with nothing in the foreground, plus using one let's you work hands free, or what if you have limited use of both hands....These Videos are a bit pointless as they do not cover all the reasons why you might use one or not. Then there's what shutter speeds you might have to work at....Outside in the open is easy peasy in the right light but try without one indoors or for Architecture....There's too many variables and after all, as I say, it's all personal choice and circumstance.

@johnhare6652 2 года назад

Beware those stating "you MUST" use/own etc. Some use a bit of kit, others don't, mostly it comes down to personal choices. I know you are not keen on the L Bracket, I love mine, not for any technical reasons, I just find it easier to use one. I also use BBF, I'd never preach it's use, of course I'd explain WHY I use it if asked. Again it is a technique that CAN be used over MUST be used. Brace yourself for the nodal users pointing out how little you lose from the image compared to handholding. ;)

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers John 👍👍

@TimberGeek 2 года назад

Before I see the results I'm figuring a set of macro rails can double as a nodal slider* if your test goes that way... Maybe not as compact and easy to carry but I could use the extra exercise at this point. ;-D *OTOH the slider part is a bit superfluous, one of those cheap rails with an arca clamp at one end will do the same thing for less weight, cash and bulk.

@jezp6768 2 года назад

Sorry Gary all this video shows is if you don’t know how to set the nodal rail up then don’t bother using one because your going to get the same results. Common sense must have told that if your using a device that removes parallax errors and your getting loads of bowing in the image then maybe you might not have it set correctly. Saying that you are correct that software is great at removing the parallax error but that’s not what the video is all about

@pablogonzalez8304 2 года назад

I've always done hand held panos so

@nilofido411 2 года назад

I am at 5 minutes something into the video and I am 100% with you, totally useless dead weight for most cases...this coming from both personal experience in taking shots as you described and 6 years of technical drawing in my teens plus my apprenticeship in a studio. Parallax is real, no doubt there, however it becomes negligible very quickly, on a tripod for objects 20ish feet’s away and hand held a bit further. Those contraptions on the other hand becomes vital for a different use, macro photography, used as a focusing rail or nodal rail depending on the circumstances.... Back to the video now....

@RNAbarton 2 года назад

Thank you!!!!

@peterjohntyers7924 2 года назад

In my opinion, for what it's worth, there is no difference except the price of the Nova slider

@squozzy 2 года назад

Unfortunately your test was flawed as you didn’t have the nodal rail set up correctly, it’s not the front element that is aligned with the center of the tripod head , it’s the focal point of the lens which is further back Approx 1/3. You haven’t proved your point unfortunately

@GaryGough 2 года назад

So if I moved my camera 5mm back or forward as you say, what difference would it have made to the picture? This was my point entirely!

@lisasimpson9343 2 года назад

I had never heard of a nodal slide, thank you for expanding my mind. After your experiment I think I will spend my money on something else. Loved the Glencoe location, so beautiful. Have to say I love your versatility as a photographer, you go from motorsport to landscape to wildlife, excellent. By chance I'm the same, not your caliber though. So I get a lot out of your channel. Thank you

@davidskinner274 2 года назад

I knew I didn't ned one! Well done with a simply explained demo.

@0191Marko 2 года назад

It’s quite sad isn’t it when it has come to this, you have people who view the image and appreciate the subject matter, then you have people who “ inspect “ the image, look for flaws, and want everything to be 100% perfect or else the image is redundant, sad.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Agree totally 👍👍

@stevec8555 Год назад

This was quite an inaccurate test Gary. You need to determine the nodal point for each len's focal length. I can assure you that when you set the nodal point correctly rather than a guesstimate, it makes a huge difference to cropping in Photoshop. You make a good point though that with distant landscapes it makes little difference because parallax is not necessarily evident. If you have something closer in the foreground, it will definitely be beneficial if you set the nodal point for lens focal length. Yes you definitely do need a nodal slider in landscape photography when you are including a significant foreground.

@EwanDunsmuirImages 2 года назад

It would have been a real interesting exercise to have laid one image on top of the other with transparency to see the differences. I use a slider to reduce (not eliminate) the distortive effect, as small as they may be. Regards, Ewan

@EwanDunsmuirImages 2 года назад

@Adrian Toothless - you can actually see the 'skew' on the centralised shot a little more, but things are close in to the camera in these shots, which will exacerbate the PD a little more. E

@kevins8575 10 месяцев назад

Many years ago, parallax errors were much more apparent because we were using paper prints and trying to piece them together to form a panorama. The trouble was that you can't stretch paper; that's how software can make the error nearly invisible. Same with your idea; manually aligning transparent layers would show the parallax errors.

@jiggyb21 2 года назад

Yes depending on the type of photography one partakes in Gary will often be right. Of course the rest of the time he wont be. You can produce nodal issues very easily in the forest. With tree trucks about 10 feet or closer to the camera you simply can’t produce a good stitch without having parallax issues. For example you may choose to compose an image hiding a 2nd tree just behind your immediate foreground tree. As you pan further many times the hidden tree begins to appear. Having said that, while photographing in portrait orientation the use an L Bracket will eliminate any issues with all but the very closest foreground trees.

@tomhirst7134 2 года назад

Hi Gary, Am I wrong? I believe you're supposed to find the "NODAL POINT" of the lens at the applied zoom, and put that in the centre of the tripod. I understand the nodal point in a lens is the crossover point where the image goes from "right-way-up" to "upside down". The front element is still not the nodal point amd that is why your versions of the same image are very similar? Your tests are misleading in my view. Sorry.

@riobravomultimedia4104 3 месяца назад

Yes, that’s why it’s called a slider. You need to adjust it per focal length he doesn’t know what he’s doing. That was a big waste of my time but oh well.

@steve-4045 2 месяца назад

His test is bogus, but his general point is true. You don’t need the slider if everything is far away. You need it only if there are nearer objects in the foreground.

@grahamkeegan2706 2 года назад

I tend to shoot panoramics much the same way as yourself, however i think that woodland or cityscapes would certainly benefit from the correct use of a nodal rail. Maybe a test in some silver birch woodland would be something to try out at another time ? As I seldom shoot such scenes though i tend to agree that one isn't needed for 98% of my shooting.

@terrymulhern9279 2 года назад

I think it is needed when you have a strong foreground object like a small tree. The closer you have an item to your lens the more you need it. Put a stick 3 feet from the lense and see the difference.

@newnastyn 2 года назад

@@djstuc i guess he has, and yet what he says is true. Try what he said and see for yourself. As Gary said, most times it is not necessary, however, if you have trees, fences, a discernible pattern in the foreground, (like stone roads etc) you will see stitching errors. Although nowadays many programs do a good job compensating for some of that. In these specific cases, using the proper tool and technique will save time after. The same way, with today's cameras you can get your exposure awfully wrong and still correct it later in PP, it is a better practice to expose correctly in the first place. Will it always make a significant difference? No. Where the tipping point is for each person, is a matter of personal preference, I believe.

@CarloDidier 2 года назад

For my own landscape photography, I have never used a nodal rail (though I have one, but I'm too lazy to carry it around). Whether you need one or not heavily depends on the pictures you take. If there is not much in the foreground, relatively near the camera, you probably never need it. But, if there is for example a fence really near the camera, then you may not be able to properly stitch the image if the camera didn't rotate around the nodal point. I have to admit that ~90% of my panos are shot handheld and they stich just fine. But I usually do not have anything so near the camera that it could cause a real problem for the stitching.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Agree totally Carlo 👍👍

@jamescorton6288 2 года назад

@@GaryGough I take this view too. Most panos won't need a rail but they were developed for a reason eg near objects. I practiced and found enough uncertainty with near objects to justify a budget rail. I have used the handheld technique with the nodal point of the lens rotating on a finger tip - cheapest of all options. Thanks for this open and honest video.

@KaReEdCa 2 года назад

So true man. I've purchased one too... Never carry it. I've also bought a leveler for the tripod (which negated the reason why I purchased an expensive light weight Tripod) and I question that purchase often. With today's software, some of the gear we have been programmed to think we need, are now rendered redundant or even useless.

@tjcuneo 2 года назад

Yes, you need a nodal rail when you have objects close to the front lens element. All other time no. The last location images when taken with a nodal rail seemed less distorted and would be easier to post process.

@EvanWisheropp 2 года назад

Pretty sure what you are seeing is that the shot with the L-bracket and slider shot at the end of the video is pointed slightly farther to the right, which has nothing to do with the slider of course. Also, he clearly explained that these examples were not harder to process without the rail.

@SimonBoothPhotography 2 года назад

As you do demonstrate, anything is possible with Photoshop if you are knowledgeable in its use. As Ewan mentions below, it's about making life easier back at the edit. I did a live demo showing how the image changes as you pan around when trees are close to the camera. 9 mins into the film...it's worth a look ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AFRFr-IERts.html

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Agree totally Simon. Like in your video, the point I was making is that 99% of the time when shooting pano's you're likely to be a fair distance away. In which case they're not necessary. Great video btw 👍👍

@patrickguilfoyle8884 2 года назад

Yes a good way to prove your point but not actually if you need a nodal slider. Parallax is when you put your finger about 1 foot from your eyes, then alternate one eye open, one closed. See how you finger moved compared to the background. Now go to area that has VERTICAL , (not relatively horizontal like your rocks) objects like trees close to you , about 20 feet away. Now do your testing. If you don't have any vertical objects in front of you, your way works. It also depends on which lens you use & your field of view. Conclusion-your way works with horizontal foreground subjects at 16-35mm. But this is your channel.

@steveg4iwr 2 года назад

I watched a demo about 4 years ago advising why nodal rails were essential in panoramic images. The images had vertical poles positioned so that measurements could be taken to show how much parallax error occurred. The poles were 500 metres from the camera. At the end of the demo measurements were taken of the error and there was less than 1mm when compared with the same image taken without the rail. The demonstrator had to admit that viewed at normal distances you would never see the difference. I like your demo and I will keep my wallet in my pocket.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers Steve 👍👍

@martynwells5594 2 года назад

Gary, Cracking just goes to show that you don't need a slider, you just need to know what you are doing 😉

@scotty4418 2 года назад

enjoyed this Gary and love seeing concepts being challenged and the end results/ I have a nodal slider and I used it once and have created numerous panoramas without one. Starting using my tilt shift lens a bit more for creating panos using the shift capabilities of the lens

@randybottphotography 2 года назад

I have the 24mm tilt shift. I think that is the best way to get a pano. Saving up for a 17mm so more architecture photography.

@tobyjugg6202 2 года назад

You did well there Mr Gough - a true professional hiding his real feelings on the matter - great self control :) I met a guy with one of them things up in Snowdonia - he had a line of sherpas carrying all the other bits of his "essential" kit. When all was assembled it looked like a long range missile launcher instead of a camera !! Needless to say he missed the shot as the light flowed in as he was fiddling with that many things. I absolutely loved the way you didnt say a word at the end of the "trial" - you knew it was bollox from the start. Brilliant.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

lol You read my mind 😁😁

@capturingkapitibeyond5583 2 года назад

Once again Gary you prove conclusively that fancy bits are not required to create stunning images. For me, what it demonstrates is 'know the capabilities of your gear' and experiment to learn them. Thank you for this reat vlog.

@RFranks 2 года назад

I sometimes use one for woodlands when there are some trunks or branches close to the lens and I can see them moving in relation to each other when I move the camera left/right.

@danielson_9211 Год назад

Bought a Fotopro E-6H head works like a gimbal and landscape head, great for wildlife and for landscapes with the nodal point built into the head no need for rails.

@neilt 2 года назад

Simon Booth did a video in woodland some time ago, and he explained how a nodal rail helped in that situation. Nearby tree trunks could be a potential problem, but in an open area such as you showed us here, the device is clearly unnecessary.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Exactly my point Neil 👍

@robcompton6099 2 года назад

Using the wrong tool for the job, and saying the tool is bad! :D

@GillesQuennevilleGQ 2 года назад

You have to pay attention to the foreground when you do not use a nodal slider with a wide angle or 50 mm lens. Ghosting is visible without nodal.

@DarrenJSpoonley 2 года назад

Once again you have outdone yourself in your presentation and others in their thoughts !! Handheld human nodel is my weapon of choice !! Bravo buddy

@markjutsum6187 2 года назад

Phew, no need carry another bit of kit up a hill. Point proved Mr G. Maybe needed if you are going for a super megapixel still in a studio on a still life? Who knows? As a landscape photographer, not a prob for me. Nice music a subtle use of a filer pouch!! 😉 MJ

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Placement advertising :)

@599miata 2 года назад

Somebody is trying to justify the Nodal Slider in order to make money... Good work Gary. No need to carry the extra weight.

@wismokey 2 года назад

I somewhat agree. I use a pano head, not a slider. It has stops so each frame is exact. Most of my panos have objects close to the camera so the head is needed. If I make a pano with nothing but distant scenery, the pano head isn't needed. Turning a knob "about" three turns isn't exact so making multi-row panos is an issue.

@AntanasStas 2 года назад

What do you want to proove? Nodal rail is for short distances, not for landscapes.

@jeffstephenson5633 2 года назад

Gary I think I will take the Nodal slider off my Christmas list to 🎅 Santa.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

😁😁

@ianhamer4294 2 года назад

Great video Gary, well explained and easy to understand. Definitely a no to the Nodal.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers Ian 👍👍

@wellwhatthen10101 2 года назад

Yes in the old days using the nodal point would have given you some advantage , but with new tech and and the advances in software this is all that anyone needs today they do a fantastic job at matching the frames together today. Unlike ten years ago or longer you had to align the frames manually. great video Gary. But i think that you are wrong about the front element of the lens that is not the nodle point

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers 👍👍

@edsassler 10 месяцев назад

It comes down to standards. Lots of people say you don’t need a nodal rail or even a tripod. They will claim that they create hand held pano images that come out just as well. That’s not me. I have the rock solid tripod, the horizontal and vertical indexing pano head, the nodal rail, the shutter release cable… Each image is bracketed +/-2 stops to create an HDR image, I only use one of 3 lenses, the Sigma 56mm f1.4, the Olympus 75mm f1.8 or the Rokinon 135mm f2, all their sweet spot (f5.6-f8). My typical finished image is over 250MP, I make large prints… More to the point, between shooting and image processing there is often half a day sitting in an airplane. Getting the shooting part wrong is something I can’t afford to do. As a journalist in the 80’s, I learned that the outcome of my job was tied to what was on a roll of film. To that end you do what you can to insure the quality of that roll of film. Tripod, pano rig, correct lens, shutter release, nodal rail - all part of the job.

@sonicmistress 6 месяцев назад

As someone who comes from using film, I completely agree with your work ethic, when shooting live Music I needed to make sure I got it right first time as no going back.

@jpdj2715 2 года назад

Nodal slide? It depends. First on the amount of foreground because that is where the stitching will be difficult if you don't rotate around the nodal point. But, I have shot freehand panoramas with some foreground that Photoshop easily stitched. Ps is so good at that, it stitched a (hand shot) panorama with a new camera that I had forgotten to lock its AF. The first two shots were tack sharp, the third had gotten focused to the foreground and the background (landscape that it was all about) became blurred, but that became noticeable only when I went to 100% view. The way Ps does it is both simple (IMO) and very clever (LrC could not do it). I also have hand shot panoramas with enough foreground to theoretically cause stitching issues, but because of the textures in the foreground, Ps was able to stitch these and neither I nor anyone else notices the "issue". Yes, I have a nodal slider and even a 3D version for multi row shots. When I travel light with a traveler tripod, I have a small ballhead with 360 rotation in the top plate with Arca mount. This suits my Arca L-plate very well and when I need the nodal slider, I easily put it in between. No, I don't use the kit enough to justify the expenses - not with today's stitching algorithms. Just a nodal slide for when you shoot a panorama with a wide angle lens like 24 or 20 vertically/portrait will do and is indispensable for that. Shoot a couple shots with 35mm lens horizontally/landscape and it is almost unnecessary as long as your camera is "level" front to back.

@Ruscombephotos 2 года назад

I agree, it’s unnecessary. It may be marginally better for a subject close to the camera, but when you present a finished image to a viewer, unless they know ever nook and cranny of that particular scene would they ever even be aware there is a parallax effect going on? I doubt it. I’ve done a few panoramas handheld when I haven’t had my tripod or was up against rapidly dwindling light and had no time to set up, and they’ve turned out just fine. The only time I really notice any parallax is if there is a contrail in the sky, but it could just as easily look like the plane that created the trail had turned in the frame.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Yep, great points 👍👍

@jeffreywardell1180 Год назад

hi Gary aim am thinking of getting a Canon 5D mk 3 as I can't afford a Mark 4 as I think you use a Mark 3 is the Mark 3 still a good camera as I have a 450 D and want to upgrade to the Canoon 5D

@GaryGough Год назад

Yes definitely. It’s still a great camera. If you’re on a budget then the MKIIII is probably the best bang-for-buck in the market. The video is a little limited but even that in the right hands is still worth using. My 2nd shooter at weddings uses a MKIII and the pictures are still spot on 👍👍

@steveworthington930 2 года назад

That must be the most photographed bothy in Scotland, not open, to easy of acess. A new bothy is under contruction at Fox Point, Coignach, cracking area, now there,s a future subject Gary.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I'll check it out. Cheers Steve 👍👍

@MrBooojangles Год назад

Don't look like I need one then. It's not something I've ever thought about when I've done panoramics, the paralax effect and I've always been happy with how mine have turned out. If I did want a slider though, I could easily make one with my skills. 😉

@timrosenburgh9485 2 года назад

Enjoyed the video Gary, Yeah you were correct, who needs the Nodal Slider. I personally think it is just a gimic as by the time you fiddle around with it you could miss your shot if the rain was coming in the distance. My conclusion, just take the shot the normal way like you do. 👍

@johnfletcher1036 2 года назад

Another problem is with focus stacking. Do you move the cameras or adjust the lens focus? (For close up images) Focusing the lens changes the magnification of the image, but repeated ‘slices of focus’ do not stack together properly. With panoramas I also thought that you need to find the nodal point of the lens which is not the front element of the lens. Is anything easy?

@paulrichards3989 2 года назад

Brilliant I could watch you all day having said that Iv watch all your videos Gary

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers Paul 👍👍

@RM831BC4E4 2 года назад

“No”dal rail/Slider, clue is in the name ;-) “No”

@GaryGough 2 года назад

lol never thought of that 😁😁

@RM831BC4E4 2 года назад

@@GaryGough 😀

@joepowell289 2 года назад

The last panorama was amazing. Great shot.

@maxrawlings5587 2 года назад

The nodal pony isn’t necessarily at the front element.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I'm sure a millimetre out will make a huge difference to the mountain a mile away. Cheers

@alasdairmackenzie905 2 года назад

Thanks for this Gary. Very well demonstrated. I've never used a nodal rail and now probably never will.

@RM831BC4E4 2 года назад

Your work and images for me are simply beautiful. You have a unique approach to your vlogs that makes photography so enjoyable and easy to understand. But at the same time you produce images that are unbelievably beautiful! X

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Very kind as always Richie 👍👍

@RM831BC4E4 2 года назад

@@GaryGough No problem

@mervfer1162 2 года назад

Let's see a multi-row, focus-stacked, HDR panorama. Say maybe 3 rows x 7 horizontal x 5 focus depths x 3 exposure settings for 315 images merged, stacked, and stitched.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I would never take such an image Mark. I never have and I can't see I would in the future.

@mervfer1162 2 года назад

@@GaryGough and you don't need to because you create some of the most beautiful images with rather straightforward techniques. My suggestion was intended to highlight how overly complex someone could get in making a panorama. Cheers!

@janfrosty3392 2 года назад

Re Mark Farrer comment, that would be a real professional way to do it, or there is a 'cowboy' way to do it full of distortion sorry to say.

@ziggyjinx 2 года назад

Oh noodle it up every time… if you don’t have a noodle don’t chicken curry as you can do all and make a stunning image via photoshop 👌 Good video Gary 🙏

@johncantrell614 2 года назад

I very much love to watch how you craft and polish your images. Thanks for sharing. And I saw the interview you did with mike Browne, lt was a great interview, and it was nice to see the two of you hitting it off. 🙂

@pictureeyecandy 2 года назад

Great video but I think you might not have found the Nodal point of the lens. I'm no expert but the nodal point is at your aperture blades in your lenses. I have not photographed landscapes in many years (health issues) but when I did I used a cheap light stand in front of my lens about 2-3 feet. Then a further away subject that is also vertical to find the nodal point When the light stand and the background subject moves equally when moving the camera left to right. Yes, I Googled it to check if I was right and the first video that popup was from 2009 and photoshop was like version 3 point something so back then it was really needed to use a Nodal rail. Not saying you are wrong because the Apps we have are so much better than any technique used to make a pano will work. Just like stitching images for larger printing or doing The Brenizer Method. You can also use this to fake medium format images handheld. We are living at a great time because of technological advances in photography. I lived when the film was king using an SLR, now Digital using DSLR, and now Mirrorless systems with newer lenses that can focus very close with great AI Thanks.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

I couldn't move the camera further back because I was using a 16mm lens :) I understand what you're saying though. Cheers 👍👍

@wellwhatthen10101 2 года назад

That is also wrong the nodal point is where the image that comes into the lens and then crosses to the correct view from upside down to the correct view upright it is this that is called axis point and all lens's have different axis crossover points to put it simple. This crossover point should be right over the the centre of the rotation point as this does not move at all.

@pictureeyecandy 2 года назад

@@wellwhatthen10101 Thank you. As I said I'm no expert on where is the nodal point is exactly. Could you also explain how to find the correct nodal point for doing pano?

@jamesss1953 2 года назад

Panoramic photos is my Like too. Parallax I’m aware of too. Hand held is generally the way I work, and quite often I take between 5 and 25 RAW images. Post process in Lightroom. Sometimes LRc isn’t happy with so many images which means Photoshop. I’m. LRc person. Occasionally I will use a tripod if I need to carry out same number of exposure bracketed portrait images (taking 3 of exposure bracketed images at a time) Like your demo . I do consider the ‘nodal point’ but don’t worry about it if I overlap each consecutive shot by at least 1/2.

@walterwiniana 2 года назад

I'm like you, I shoot great panos without one of those gadgets, why would I waste my money. 🤣

@mikesphotography7185 2 года назад

Gary that was a very very interesting video, thank you

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Cheers 👍👍

@TheKiwiKooker 2 месяца назад

Thank you Gary for the different tests. I do not use a nodal rail for my panoramics and I think my panoramics are just fine in New Zealand. I can see a strong case for close distances but for me, that is such a rare occurrence.

@langowski007 2 года назад

Nice :) 👍... But i've got my Sprocket Rocket for panoramas 🤗😬😀😀😀😀

@kmac2555 2 года назад

Technically to use any nodal device you must first ascertain the nodal point of a lens which is really only possible on a prime lens. Unless of course you mark on the lens barrel of a zoom where each focal lengths nodal point is.

@wellwhatthen10101 2 года назад

Very true , but i did hear that Gary said the front of the lens is the nodal point which it is not never has been and never will be.

@GaryGough 2 года назад

Being a millimetre or 2 out still won't make a jot of difference when shooting mountains a mile or so away though. That's just the point I was making. I agree with both of your comments though. Cheers 👍👍

@teohboonleong-z3h 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the good video Gary, great panorama photos with your “normal way”. I would like to try it next time. I took some panorama photos hand held before, and my friends never noticed any small distortion or skewed landscape. Not because they don’t care, but nobody even knows if the mountains, lakes or rivers got skewed a little bit. Who wants to or had measured it anyway? It (landscape) doesn’t have to be so accurate, right? 😁🤭 Sometimes, I stiched several vertical images shots with 24 mm lens (on full frame), then cropped it 3:2 ratio, and it looks like the scene was taken with superwide angle lens. Ha ha ha!😅😅

@garyguest1999 2 года назад

Totally agree. Been capturing landscapes for about 12 years and never had a problem even hand held. Love your work and videos. Awesome.

@keithsayles8050 2 года назад

Enjoyed this Video Gary - and from the man who invented the "velcro 20p" piece I recall your magical words whispered into my ear. "Don't Over Engineer Things" - Never a truer word spoken! Whilst I'm sure this gadget is appropriate in certain situations - I would guess that most of us would be just as happy with our results using the tried and tested way of producing Pano's as demonstrated on so many occasions within your videos. Thanks for an interesting video which as always was very enjoyable.