Parkland victim had bullet enter right shoulder, tear through heart: Medical examiner | LiveNOW 

god bless you for your comment

@Educated Negro Your name is offensive, but well ignore it, the father as far as I can tell is not seen devastated so your comment is irrelevant.

It is true

@Ceo of racism i think we can blame the guy with a gun who went and murdered them all champion.

We're not all like this over here. Even gun owners hearts can be broken

Amen and Amen 😔💔🙏

@Ceo of racism I agree, the root of the problem didn't start with this teenager deciding to do what he did. But, those suffering from his actions now, were not guilty of doing anything to this man. I hope he is executed, the families should not have to share the world with him. I think they will feel a little better when he is dead. Also, I hope we can get to the root of the problem, we need to listen more to misanthropists.

NO MERCY FOR THE WICKED

It has to be heartwrenching for the Families to hear the Medical Examiner's describe the victims injuries. And, yes it sickens me to know that the scumbag cruz shot some of them so many times. Peter Wang took 13 bullets my God! And, juaquin Oliver was shot in the head it literally caused his head to explode. My heart breaks for all the victims Famillies so unbelievable they have to go through this.

OOO yes he looked really nervous almost shaken.

Right! He needs to be put down! The jury made a HUGE mistake on this one!

Someone just got the death penalty for killing 2 ppl. But because N.C. killed 17 and injured 17 more he gets life!! The system just F up! Bad. May they all R.I.P. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

He looked fine to me.

I remember one victim had an older brother that wanted to go back in but their father said to run away. I can’t imagine how they both feel, wondering if he could have saved her, but I’m sure he would have died too. These poor families.

completely agree with you.

I couldn't imagine having to sit in the same room with the monster who killed my love one. Not only just one day either. Through the entire length of this trial. I give these parents and survivors and family members so much credit for sitting in the same room with this monster and not killing him. I surely would not be able to. This case angers me. I feel he should just be put to death. These families and survivors have suffered enough. One less parasite in this world. I don't care how young he was or how messed up in the head he is there is absolutely no excuse for this to have happened. 🤬

I AGREE!!!!! It makes me so upset.

@@BillyBobbobbob I think the trial is simply heartbreaking..The floodgates of tears that flow down my face when I watch this trial is too much for me to take.I don't understand why this trial is really necessary. I am a believer in an eye for an eye. He should have the same fate as his poor victims did. Point blank

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It has to be HARD to listen to the medical examiners because they paint a picture of how these kids died and the chaos in hallways and classrooms as their kids were being gunned down.

The bit that got me was when he said he went and took photos of those who had been killed and place the murdered in ‘human remains pouches’ obviously he has to keep professional but I don’t know how I would feel if I was sat there listening to a dr speak of how a bullet ripped through my sons heart and that my son was placed in a ‘human remains pouch’ 🙏🏼🤍🖤

@@codemae69 lmao 🤣 good one

Nah she is my mother in law, joaquin olivers mom, and the stunning girl sitting next to her is my platonic love ❤️

And probably see the photos of injures

@Ceo of racism ?

@Ceo of racism or you can blame the psycho who took all these innocent kids lives?

@Ceo of racism nothing “made” him do this some of the kids he killed were freshman that he never met

Carmen and Cara a week before their 15th & 17th birthdays 😢

"We".. pfffft. Parents must take responsibility for THEIR children and demand protection. I say defund public schools but then I'm a taxpayer with no say.

THEY SHOULD GIVE EVERY TEACHER AND STUDENT BULLET PROOF MATERIAL IN EACH CLASSROOM THAT COULD SAVE MASS AMOUNTS OF LIFE

Easy . Bullet proof doors and windows , also ofc upgraded locks✅

a round from an AR would go through the vest

@@sammitchell7310 depending on what level body armor

They should be required to review the photos and visit the crime scene.

Why

A lot of the time it seems to have to do with whether the evidence is probative or relevant- it’s bs really but it’s better that they give him the most robust defence possible so that he can’t claim ineffective counsel in an appeal

@@Marmalade_on_toast you are absolutely correct

The defense doesn't want any pictures or video in evidence. They are trying to get life in prison while the State is fighting for the death penalty so they are not holding anything back.

The point is the defense has to remove any doubt

They literally sitting on a bench all day doing nothing. What you mean they tired kid?

@@bubbamaster3116 are you serious? The pain of listening day in and out how their children were murdered? Reliving the nightmare they can’t ever wake up from all over again? Nah that wouldn’t make anyone tired.

The first part of your comment makes no sense at all

The whole thing...

Wait God how are angels up in heaven supposed to help us down here fight evil?? Bring em back we need the numbers

That is awful, i am so sorry this happened to your daughter :( Those monsters don't deserve to live among us when they commit a crime like that.

I'm so sorry about your daughter, wishing you peace

I am so very sorry about what happened to your daughter. How utterly awful. I cannot even begin to fathom your pain. Sending prayers.❤️🙏🏻

May she Rest In Peace ❤️🙏🏽💜

I'm so sorry.

If it were a fair and just world he would be striped naked and beaten every time someone had to testify of the horror he inflicted.

Anything he does will annoy you, shut up.

He’s a narcissist

@@danvincent2600 I think the most evident problem is antisocial personality disorder (or traits of it)

@Ceo of racism no he didn't he gunned down people he didn't even know. Sick of people justifying what this piece of filth did

Absolutely heartbreaking.

Yet we pretend like this process is necessary to convict this man and execute him.

they are going through living torment and have been for four years and will for the rest of their lives. When this psycho gunned down his victims he not only killed them he killed a part of everyone who loved them

Stop talking to yourself.

@@scam i don’t think you understand how a RU-vid comment section works

@@LG-dr6kc You clearly don't understand what my comment is for. 🙄

@@scam I do, hence my comment

​@@LG-dr6kc 🤡

i regret tapping

My eardrums are completely gone. Wish I seen your comment before..

@@ButtonsCasey literally literally

i read this at minute 6:45 thank u

There is a video I found the other day that explained why this is taking so long. It was supposed to start in January but cruz came into a ton of money from his mothers estate and stuff with his legal counsel was changing so it pushed things back. Covid didnt help either. He plead guilty back in October right before his phase 1 trial was about to start.

Stop sensationalizing the case please. It's tacky.

@@bollockjohnson6156 IDK it seems that this testimony is very accurate, not sensationalized. Isn't that the point of this? To be as accurate as possible so that there's no room for appeals due to false statements?

@@angelaaranda2077 Yes. However, elevating the testifying personnel to superstar status turns the proceedings into a circus sideshow. How is that beyond your understanding? Is the concept at a higher level than your IQ can grasp?

@@bollockjohnson6156 they deserve praise for doing a necessary job that literally no one wants to do.

@@ronnie8984 don't be a fool.

I agree. In a real civilized society this POS Cruz would have been eliminated long ago. All the time and money put into this sentencing trial should be used to help all the victims and their families.

That was the only time that monster actually showed interest

They should not let him see the pictures of the victims... Only feed his ego... Sick

This is America not Afghanistan. We have a justice system and it has to be thorough. You should be thankful for the extensive testimony and airing of all these facts. By covering absolutely every avenue possible they build a stronger case for the death penalty. Leaving gaps in the prosecution allows the defendant to exploit those for lengthy appeals processes. Go watch a movie if you need bloodthirsty revenge so badly this is not how a democratic society operates.

@@dojokhan Im all for Proper Justice, but lets be real. America certainly lacks that, not like we lead in that. NW Europe does, as in Norway, Finland, Netherlands, etc... Its takes a good man or woman, with bad thoughts to bring Justice to a bad man or woman. He needs to be shot like in the chest. We know for a fact he did this, there is no debate on the guilt.

@@dojokhan I wonder if you would feel the same if the table is turn….

I'm sorry, but what's left of our justice system still requires this penalty phase trial. All those parents were thoroughly briefed by the prosecutor and they knew what to expect. They wanted to be there.

Umm who do you think pays in federal cases? Americans. 🙄.... All serious criminal cases take awhile due to evidence, witnesses, experts and so on. I do believe it sucks and I wish America were doing things like they did in the early 20th century and before. Do the crime, get arrested, go to trial and get punishment within 1 or 2 months. Sadly, America has changed.

Bless you ❤️

They aren’t forced to be there to listen to the medical examiner’s testimony. It’s better that the jury knows the full extent of the damage that was done so they can make the correct decision.

@Boston Gal they shouldn't have to go in the first place, your pal cruz caused this.

The judge 👩‍⚖️ i guess?

I went to high school in NYC. We had metal detectors and couldn't even bring our phones in. This was 2008-2012. It seemed annoying then, but I see how it'd be so needed now.

“We just need more common sense gun laws - Democrats somewhere” They implement said gun laws and restrictions nothing changes lmao but hey at least they’re doing something. The only thing they’re doing rn which is horse shot and unconstitutional is HR 1808 and a new bill which makes CCW harder and easy to get denied as well as most places deemed a safety area foh they don’t care about you or your family except more power and will use that shooting to further push gun control which doesn’t work law abiding citizens have more to lose than a criminal 10 years for more than 10 rounds or a vertical fore grip and changing the functions of a firearm so i can reload how it was designed to “scary features”are illegal Don’t even get me started on the doj handgun roster.🤦 I’m sorry but if here in California people vote these dumb fohcks in again you deserve these tragedies and skyrocketing crime rate. A criminal has more rights than you think about that because they don’t follow them.

While I understand why you say that schools already have too many similarities w jails gun reform is what we truly need done

@@lolab2896 I think making them less available to be purchased by the general public is a good start.

@@ketoafrikana4953 Yep, Cruz would've been gunned down at the entrance or at least subdued. No way he should've been able to just waltz in with a gun bag like that. Lack of security was ridiculous! The trial would be for attempted mass murder and no one would've been killed.

A rifle round would go through bullet proof vest like hot knife through butter. They need a level four body armor to stop a rifle round and those are not cheap at all.

@@mmafanatic-tz5or that is scary $@#% ~ I live in 🇨🇦 and am grateful that we haven’t had to deal with much in the way of school shootings….gun laws are a lot different here. 🙏🏻 As a mother I can’t imagine 🥺

@@kdp1232 I carry a gun and support the second amendment but America has a mental mtal health problem. My brother in law is Canadian and he doesn't like Canada's laws on guns. What are you gonna do if someone wants to stab you? You get carjacked? I think they should increase the age to purchase a rifle to 21.

@@mmafanatic-tz5or I agree with you, and believe me, Canada has its own mental health issues…and let’s just say our gun laws are just one problem we have….on the other hand, we have a great health plan paid for with 13% tax….thanks for sharing, I’m always interested in how others view this f’ed up society 😬😂

@@kdp1232 I would never live in Canada, Trudeau is terrible, worse than Biden. You guys have no ability to defend yourselves, and the health care system is low quality, with long wait times for example. Whenever you make something free, quality suffers. This shooting could've been easily prevented with armed guards at the entrance. He would've been subdued and the trial would've been for attempted mass murder, facing life or death penalty, and no one would've been hurt. If only...

I have thought the same thing! The people in that prison are getting what they deserve. Nothing inhumane about it. They are sheltered, fed, clothed. That’s all those people deserve.

P.S. people in the Supermax can’t be rehabilitated. No need for wasting anything else on them.

he will have plenty of years to wait for his execution ,on death row

In the same boat with my kids.. this is America.. smh

I think you forgot we are having recruiting both school officials (teachers and paraprofessionals) and military personnel. Neither group is paid enough. I think it’d be hard to find people to do that job.

@Ad Hominem or they can be a army person in the office on call for anything but I doubt it’ll happen but better safe than sorry

@Ad Hominem cannot arrest people for crimes they might commit... you MIGHT kill your neighbors you MIGHT have blew that red light....

They should allow teachers to carry concealed.

But it can happen anywhere. And people may do diff. Places now scent they know it's tight security now.

My dad is middle school 🎒 🏫 teacher. worries me alot . I would go unarmed to help and yet the cop there armed was hiding while with a gun like a coward piece of 🗑️ garbage.

Armed guards at the entrance would've stopped him in his tracks. No way he should've been able to waltz in like that with a gun bag. This could've easily been prevented!

It's so scary can't imagine having to be a student or teacher with all of these shootings.

Yeah and armed guards at the entrance, he would've never been able to get in!

Let him go in general population. Crimes against children aren't respected in true prison's. Someone would make an example of that piece of filth.

Its all about the legal industrial complex feeding off the pain and tragedies of others...

I heard it’s suppose to last for 4 months

They said sometime in the fall

they should allow students and teachers who get training to conceal carry and have rifles, these cowards only shoot up places that ban guns like movie theaters or schools, they wouldn't dream of shooting up a place where return fire is a very real possibility

So will letting teachers arm themselves if they volunteer to do so as well as at least 2 cops per campus.

I’m obviously starting with a stepping stone . This ain’t the answer to the problem obviously

Bulletproof vest will not stop a rifle round. A rifle round will go right through it easy. Bulletproof vest are meant to stop handgun rounds which are much slower. You would need a level 4 body armor in order to stop a rifle round and those aren't cheap. Imagine a school getting one for over 800 students.. . Who is going to fund that?

@@mmafanatic-tz5or LOOK I SAID THIS WAS STEPPING A STONE . NOT THE ANSWER TO THE PROBLEM . TBH IF EVERY PARENT HAS TO START ADDING THAT TO THE SCHOOL LIST SO BE IT AND HAVE TO PROVIDE THEY OWN KIDS WITH ONE JUST LIKE BACKPACKS ARE BOUGHT . I KNOW EVERYONE OF THOSE KIDS WOULD TOOK A DAMN BOOK TO COVER THEMSELVES IN THAT MOMENT SO YOU KNOW THERE ARE STEPS IM SURE

It is very loud to me. Must be your device 🤷‍♀️

If I’m not mistaken, part of Chris Watts deal was if he plead guilty, he would avoid the death penalty. In Nikolas Cruz’s case, the jury has to determine whether he gets the death penalty or life in prison. This is a trial to determine extent of punishment and as far as prosecution goes, their job is to show the impact of NC’s actions that day, i.e., MEs provide scientific and factual testimony as to damage to the victim’s bodies, victim impact statements, and testimony from survivors who were wounded but survived.

@@CoCoGemel Thanks for explaining this...

Also the only reason Chris even got a plea deal was bc he was an established liar Shannon’s family didn’t wanna hear what he had to say or hear his baseless accusations against their daughter

This isn’t a trial. He already admitted to committing the crimes, so there is nothing for the prosecution to prove. This is the penalty phase. This is where the prosecution shows “aggravating factors” severe enough to warrant the death penalty. The defense lawyers must then present “mitigating factors” which are reasons for which the criminal should get the lesser sentence of life in prison. The aggravating factors are that the crime was planned, especially cruel, calculated and the criminal knew fully well what he was doing. The mitigating factors I think the defense will present are that, in fact, the criminal had brain damage because he was a crack baby, he had severe PTSD, and some severe mental problems.

Yes the families know in advance and don’t have to be present

They saw the bodies, when they had to claim the corpses.

They were not shown in this video.

There’s no way to know for sure. I think it depends on the jurors backgrounds (faith?), if they feel the killer is remorseful, and if they think he snapped/went insane. Personally I think they will vote for the death penalty in this one. The people who walked through the school seemed traumatized by what they saw; I’m guessing the jurors felt the same. Also, the killer doesn’t seem outwardly remorseful and he clearly wasn’t insane at the time of the massacre.

I am curious too since we do not have anymore the death penalty in France. Hope someone from USA will answer us.

The death sentence was made for killers like this

Well it's in the south in Florida, I live in Alabama and we have the death penalty here for capital felonies. Felony murder in the first degree murder in the first degree, I can't say for certain but I am 99.99999 percent sure he is getting the death penalty. The jury is being shown all of this so they can make a decision. Think about it this way, if yall were on this jury and had the decision to give him life or death, would you want him to live after this? I damn sure don't. In 2018 I know that The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional for the judge to give a death penalty when the jury recommended life. It's called judicial overreach. Because that privilege was abused so much, in 2018 is when the Supreme Court ruled it to be unconstitutional. Very unfortunate and complicated because if you get the wrong jury, they could give him life. I study law and have law enforcement in my family and we all are rooting for a death penalty. Because while he waits to die on a date selected by the governor of the state, he will be in a tiny box and mistreated by the guards until his sorry ass gets lethal injection. If he gets life that won't be mean and fair enough, after all this pain and suffering this murdering creep caused, it would be cruel to allow him a life - even if in prison. Look how sad and exhausted the survivors and family are. There is a guilt phase and a penalty phase in first degree murder cases. The guilt phase is if the defendant pleads guilty or is found guilty and the penalty phase decides life or death. It has to be done like this or defense could find a loophole to give consecutive life sentences. Most of us here in America do not want that but it isn't about that unfortunately and these people don't want him to live. He will serve years on death row and could be killed before the date of his death. The prisoners do not like him. He is kept in solitary confinement from the day it happened to now except for in court.

@@aaronwilliams126 I think, without question he deserves nothing less then a death penalty sentence. This leads me to another question, if he does get the death penalty does he get to sit on death row for years before his execution takes place? The evidence is overwhelming and he has pleaded guilty so in my opinion the execution should be immediate without the privilege of appeal.

this is a penalty trial that decides whether he gets death penalty or life in prison

He's not insane he just likes knowing others are in pain

Its literally just a camera pointed at the audience. Its always pointed in that direction

I dunno man, I’ve seen teachers have psychotic breaks. I would’ve trusted MAYBE 10% of my teachers with guns

@Ceo of racism many, many children have it worse - the difference is that those children don’t have homicidal traits (nature). Nik was always going to commit violent crimes, regardless of his environment (nurture). I think his environment just dictated when it was going to happen.

that is what this is. His sentencing hearing. Stuff like this is given and said in court to give the jury a full picture of what happened that day. They are given autopsy reports, they walk through the 1200 building, they listen to victim impact speeches from friends, parents, siblings, and survivors. All this is required in order to give NC a fair trial and also give the jury a full time line picture of what happened that day, and how it has effected the people involved. That will then all be taken into consideration when the jury has to decide if NC will receive a life sentence or the death penalty

It's not a trial to determine guilt or innocence, as he already confessed to all charges. Now the jury is deciding his fate; life in prison or death penalty

Because they need to tell the jury how horrific each death was so they're more likely to choose death