@@lawrencejquan7 they literally have to. This is called terraforming and it’s an incredibly ancient practice. You aren’t a local nor do you know why they do this in the first place. there’s a nearby lake that dramatically swells every single year, I believe this is North Shore, Oahu. If this isn’t done, the runoff will flood peoples homes and destroy nearby ecosystems that rely on the lake’s existence. If this were a river, it would also naturally eb and erode into the ocean. That is what water does.
@@albiedam3312when you say something like that, are you actually convinced in your head you made an argument or point, or are you just saying something dumb and obvious to get any lick of attention you can?
Look I don't give a damn about this video. I just came here to see people on the internet keyboard warrior each other over water and sand. I got to say my hopes were almost raised. And then you guys just fizzled out. Gonna be real here. You two should kiss and say your sorry. And stop getting peoples hopes up. Now excuse me. I have other comment sections to stir up.
**Update: instead of saying “it won’t happen naturally”, I should’ve said “if u allow it to happen naturally, it may divert to the ocean in a much more dangerous way”. I’m born and raised here. This has been done for years. Even before I was born. Everytime the lake rises, they release it into the ocean. And yes, it needs to happen this way b/c it won’t happen naturally. If ur familiar with North Shore Oahu winter swells, you’ll know why the sand gotta be dispersed this way. And the surfing of the trench started happening cuz it created waves like that. Every time there’s flooding or really heavy rain, the river swells and there’s danger in it flooding the valley where some people live. Yah it dirties the bay for days but it clears out. It’s all natural and not polluting the ocean in anyway. The millions of tourists with their sunscreen who visit that beach are probably polluting it more.
@sunsetbeach2892...I think you'll have a hard time convincing a lot of these people that this is actually necessary. Funny how they don't live there but, know what's best.
@@mstokes8785 It needs to happen because the water being released into the ocean would stagnate much like swamp water. Apparently you don't understand that this water is flood water that is in places it normally wouldn't be and without the channelling it would turn into a health concern.
For those upset, if they hadn't dug the trench the houses in the valley will flood. This is a natural process, they're just speeding it up. What they're doing is completely legal and the beach rebuilds itself in a short period of time. This actually NEEDS to be done.
Do you realize how much freshwater? There's only 3% left. People cannot be doing this or else there won't be any more water left that's safe for us to drink. Do you want war and chaos and people dropping dead all around you because they die from dehydration? It doesn't matter if the water floods the houses take it as gods sign the houses don't belong there. If you build a house on a coast then don't be surprised when you're house gets flooded, that's what happens and if that's what happens don't build there it's plain and simple
@@renanmatienzo6523 There are houses in the valley by the river. After excessive rainfall, the river can rise very high and flood the houses. They need to drain the river by digging the trench every now and then so that the houses don't flood. The beach rebuilds itself over time.
@@easternsaxon7820 It isn't their main concern when doing this. There's basically two options for draining the river. 1. Lifeguards do it 2. You do it and make a river wave to have fun on The latter saves the lifeguards time and gives you something fun to do for an hour.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines not really but that’s freshwater and a lot of it going into saltwater so it could be harmful but I don’t think calling it self destruction is accurate
@@ExploringCabinsandMines water going to the sea is not self destruction, but creating a artificial pathway and leading to erosion of all that sand is self destruction, you might know the domino effect it does in the river's upstream
@@Staarunavailable it definitely was a flash flood, you can tell that the water being dammed up by the sand wasn't there normally, and wouldn't stay naturally. The water was going to break over the dam and wash away a lot of the sand anyway. All they did was break the dam sooner.
@@Staarunavailable bro did you watch the video man? You can see the progressive growth of the fresh water flowing over, it was either let the beach get flooded by hundreds of thousands of gallons of water or do the same but have some fun too 💀 people these days
It’s called river breaking, its a common practice for some places when a river gets too much water, it would have happened naturally either way Edit: so I think I caused a debate to start in the reply’s-
@@familyTimson it's not actually, it happens a lot here in hawaii. Since it's a temporary block on the river, that at high tide isn't there anyway, they are allowed to do it. Because it breaks away every day anyway. It's not illegal. Don't assume something is illegal just because you think it's damaging something. It isn't damaging anything.
@@demonette2722 Its more about him using "waters" as a unit of measurement...which it is not. That's like saying "oh man I breathed in millions of airs today".
for when the community is ready for it. guarantee the cops got called on them and stopped them. it’s not a natural occurrence either. nothing about what they’re doing is natural. go do some research.
@@toscaniusthey annually make trenches like this cuz if they leave it, the water buildup might affect infrastructure. The water gonna leak out eventually regardless of human intervention
@@Nash1aSame so I did some quick research. Essentially after heavy rain, the body of water swells and will over flow. Without intervention the water can go anywhere like homes or places that can cause harm. By cutting a path to the ocean it allows the locals to control the overflow away from their homes.
@@shanetuma3845 If you read the comments by the locals, you will learn that this happens regularly. And that this is the best response. I don't care what you think about it.
@@shanetuma3845 I’m from this area. It will overflow inward before it does outward to the ocean. There are thousands of tourists that visit this area year-round. There are some homes, an ancient temple, a nature preserve and a waterfall in this valley. Those thousands of tourists live to swim in the river/lake and ignore warning signs of stagnant water and the many flesh eating bacteria that are just festering that standing water. Breaking the sand berm alleviates the big part of the lake where all of that stagnation sits.
I had the same thoughts. Even if it floods and some fresh water goes into the ocean that's nature, let her do what she does and leave it alone. They just helped the problem. This is not a solution.
@@hellothere6363 was it though 🤔 I'm sorry but I saw them digging a pretty long trench to accelerate this. I also saw pooling of fresh water but it was not going to overflow that much water, much less that rapidly, naturally. Had they left it alone, much of that water would have probably found it's way inland to lower lying areas naturally, or soaked into the ground. Which if you didn't know actually prevents flooding because the ground isn't so hard and dry. Now this takes time and takes away from ppl having fun at the beach so to speak. I've been seeing this as a "trend" all over RU-vid. I'm no expert but I have a feeling this is actually doing far more harm than good. Justifying yourself by saying it was going to happen anyway is ridiculous when you have to physically dig a trench to make it happen. That's like lighting the forest on fire across the street from a forest fire and saying "it was going to happen anyway." I stand with the OP comment, when there's no fresh water in the heat of the summer you'll know why. Just my two cents for what it's worth. Take it or leave it.
They did stop it? Do you have brainrot buddy? This is done all over the world because if the trenches arnt dug out the water will do that to the entire beach instead of a small section
I love how how many of these videos of this particular geological phenomenon there are on the internet and how much engagement they get every single time. How lucky they are to live close to a place where they get to do this over and over and over and make all kinds of money.
@@kaleb9064he’s literally not. This happens quite often in many coastal areas. Water builds up until it’s reaches the point it escapes into the ocean, and the subsides. Waves push sand back into the beach . The cycle repeats
they have to. there is some houses that are low on the ground and if the flood comes the houses will sink and peoples properties will be destroyed. doing this is actually helping with that it’s bringing the water of the flood to the ocean.
They’re trying to act like they were trying to stop this destruction from happening, so that they won’t get negative comments but it’s obvious they want to destroy it.
@@JTGJudahlol rising sea levels!? You do realize the whole "rising sea levels" is bs. You can look at photos from the late 1800's and the sea levels are still at the same exact level today.
Bruh, it’s a natural occurrence, they’re just speeding it up, after a while the sand will pile up again, and the lagoon will reach it’s previous size. No harm done.
This is a natural occurrence they just made it go by faster if they did not do this it could flood houses instead and yes it is the rain water the destroys the beach not them as the rain water was the one moving the sand they just assisted
They did not destroy the beach. This is on the North Shore of Oahu, and when the rains get really heavy, and the valley swells, they do this to relieve it, and the locals surf the waves created by the outflow. RU-vid it, Waimea Bay river surfing
Ever heard the saying pissing in the sea? Basically means the seas so big if you piss in it it’s still just salt water you pee will disperse . Same with this fresh water which is naturally mixing into the ocean the fish and shit will be fine chill bro
Not how it works, these pools break through to the ocean on their own quite frequently. The animals that don't like brackish water smell it coming, the rest don't care.
The comments from people who aren’t Hawaii locals baffles me a bit, especially the ones arguing WITH the locals. this isn’t damaging nor is it bad for the brackish water to mix with the ocean water. 1. The brackish water would have spilled over anyways, if it did so naturally (especially with the heavy rains) it would have caused a larger trench than what these guys made. (Which can be filled back up when the rainfall stops) 2. If these guys didn’t do it the lifeguards would have anyways. This has been a process going on for YEARS. 3. Brackish water isn’t harmful to the ocean, brackish water is literally ocean water and fresh water mixed, this area in specific has other water ways that connect to the brackish waters to the ocean as well they just aren’t this area in specific so this area floods much more than others would. 4. If they don’t do this the homes in the valley that the brackish water is connected to (far in the back because this lake goes back kind of far) will flood, the roads will also flood. 5. This area floods a lot during rainfall because of the waterfall in the far back + rain + the small areas connected to the ocean, it’s not just a shallow area.
They’re actually preserving it. The backed up water is what washes the beach away. This trench refills with sand when the fresh water is gone. May not seem like it, but they are preserving the land by doing this
@@dbabdbbbghbb let's see what wash the beach away, naturally flowing water that's naturally occured,or a bunch if idiots that's literally digging the beach for a content.
@@easygoing4964 you don’t understand. This is a known spot, if the locals don’t dig out the trench then the city brings heavy equipment to do it anyways. You can sit on your high horse all day and judge but it’s silly when someone has explained why it’s happening
@@dbabdbbbghbb give me all the information source about the spot,or you just making stuffs up,i live near a beach,my family used to renting inflated inner tube as floaties and this kind of thing occurred every now and then,no one do this kind of thing,just let the water flow naturally and the beach is still as it is,we're not losing the beach.
A flash flood is when you're walking down a sandstone canyon... it rained hundreds of miles away, hours ago... not water but debris flowing right at you with no warning... mud and sticks.
@@colinoskopie8091Any form of rapid flooding, it follows the terrain making torrential flows in a relatively short amount of time (less than 6 hours). The initial description wasn’t necessarily wrong but only describes a specific type of flash flood.
Because they ain't got no damn sense. So what happens when you destroy the River freshwater probably being used at some point for drinking water but that's okay it don't matter you can go into the ocean we don't need it not to mention the fact of what it does to everything around it. People ain't got nothing better to do with their time but tear everything up. Mother Nature is going to get fed up eventually and take back what's hers you see it everyday happening and it's going to keep on taking until people learn to take care of his planet
I wish people in these comments would do some research before saying these people are destroying the beach, they are simply speeding up the process of what wouldve happened naturally but in a more controlled fashion. By creating a small dam around the flooded area and by making a Trench they can force the water to flood into the one direction instead of going everywhere and possibly causing Structural damage to nearby building and such. And for those saying this is ruining an ecosystem, this happens naturally to begin with, so its not like Nature is gonna go out of whack by us simply controlling the possible damage that woupdve happened. Alsp had they not done it, City or state individuals would've done it 🤷♂️
Just so everyone knows… This naturally occurs in Waimea Bay when the freshwater system fills up and connects to a low spot on the beach. Surfers will dig a trench when the waters are high to create an artificial wave pool. Doesn’t hurt the land or the wildlife.
Disagree with that. It's forcibly changing a habitat and also the locals depend on their fresh water.do you have any local family on the island because if you do then you might understand why locals of Hawaii don't like stupid tourists
Let me put it like this, I’m born and raised in Hawaii. My whole life. Beach erosion is one of hawaiis biggest problems in terms of the ecosystem. for you guys to pretty much carve the beach up and to do this is so bothering. If you Let nature take its course, the water would’ve eventually dried and gone away. This is why locals from Hawaii are so bothered by non locals/ haoles. Did you even bother to contact DLNR before doing this? Or did you even contact any authorities? Flash floods have been happening in Hawaii for centuries forever and the island was still fine even after the flood without having to do that.
Mean while several other Hawaii natives in the comment section explained how this is done purposefully and frequently after heavy rains due to lake and river swells, by not only the locals but government workers, and after a few days it is back to normal, but you go on ahead and keep blaming the tourists for it. Let me be clear, I get tourists can ruin shit for locals, I see it here in the finger lakes as well especially late summer and early fall, but there is a lot of shit that happens they aren't responsible for and when you blame them this only gives the impression of you looking like the ass who looks for reasons to complain.
nailed it well said im not a native to hawaii but even i knew that happens there from jamie and my sister in law that lived in there briefly @@cottoneyedJoe29
Beache erosion is a problem in Hawaii because the Micros eat all the Uhu. One mature Uhu can produce 700lb of sand per year by eating the old dead reef. No Uhu, no sand, no sand, no beach!
They're literally standing in the mouth of a river. That river has been flowing into the ocean for thousands of years. It not flowing into the sea right here is a new thing.
First off, you’re proud of living in Panama City. Second, they are saving their beach from the rainwater washing it out anyways. Do you feel silly for getting your undies all up in a bunch and making a vague threat on the internet because you thought you saw something to get mad about?
@JamieOBrienJOB natural process do die too. Stop acting like yall doing it for a different reason besides wanting to surf it. It's simple. Just own it. Lol smh
This is a regular occurrence. The river needs to be drained periodically, but it doesn't fully reach the ocean. If it's not drained the water goes bad and floodings happen.
A storm probably pushed the sand up to block the mouth of that river. The river was going to back up until the water level got higher than the sand and did what they did anyway.
The fresh water plants and animals are whats being harmed. You should let things happen naturally instead of helping destroying a fresh water ecosystem for views
This is a normal occurrence and something that is done as mitigation as flood waters / pools build up in the fresh water egress points. It's worse to let them sit than to do what is done and if you need evidence of that you should just google it because you'll find quickly you're speaking out your ass.
I don't think they did. Seems to me they were just playing around in the sand, and they may have sped up the process by one day... But it still would have happened because the water had to have somewhere to go.
@@TheInstigatorMan more slowly over time so the change isn't super drastic and animals, like birds, can adapt by changing locations before they run out of food instead of abruptly losing their main source of it
