PART 1: Rolex, Patek Philippe, Vintage Watches: The Armoury's Mark Cho | Collector Conversation

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In the first part of this two part interview, Tim Mosso sits down with Mark to discuss how he got his start in watch collecting. They delve into philosophies of collecting and what started him down the path of luxury watches.
Mark Cho is no stranger to building out a distinct and individualistic look. As a founder of The Armoury and with the acquisition of the British brand Drake's, he is deep in the world of styling and bespoke fashion. This dedication to perfecting an image using clothes and accessories of course led him to the world of watches and so he sits down with Tim to discuss his collection and fashion philosophies.
Mark's collection is expansive and eclectic. From Grand Seiko to Patek Philippe, he's picked up a little of everything on his way. Tim and him discuss what got him started collecting and anecdotes along the way, such as having a hand in designing a limited F.P. Journe Chronometre Resonance. He also outlines how he likes to have individualistic influence over his pieces like his custom-made Patek Philippe Nautilus 3800.
Mark's collection is just as intriguing as his experience with his businesses and his ideas on watch collecting. So tune in to the newest Collector Conversation and don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe!
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@Ppf9000 4 года назад

Refreshing to see a collector with such a finely tuned sense of individuality that isn’t just trying to one up or impress others around them or buying based on what they’ve been told are the must haves. Mr. Cho has such an obvious passion that it is a joy to have a chance to listen in on the discussion. Can’t wait for part 2. The other watch dialogue shows are too focused on the worship of celebrity rather than true taste. Bravo.

@9d124 4 года назад

PleatsPerFavore the whole video was uploaded on their website weeks ago, now somewhat can’t play on their website and even separated the videos into two parts.

@the1916company 4 года назад

Part II is coming this weekend!

@walkerb1734 4 года назад

I cant get enough of these type of “collector” videos. Keep up the great work, Tim!

@SpaghettiKillah 4 года назад

Love this collector ! Educated, soft spoken. Cheers from Italy ! 👍🏻

@the1916company 4 года назад

Thank you! We hope you are safe and that things will start to improve in your country.

@sutats 4 года назад

It's always fun to have Mark around.

@lewisjones3345 3 года назад

As an Armoury and Drake’s customer, seeing this collection is exactly how I would picture Mark’s collection. His stores are a reflection of his own style. He is ridiculously unassumingly classy. As a man his style that is curated so nicely at Armoury is exactly what I’m going for in my wardrobe. It’s like a modern nod to my father. Keep up the good work Mark. It’s great to see your collection and that you would share it with us like this.

@cavaliericorey 4 года назад

More of this please. Thoughtful and intelligent collecting, love the way he says he is willing to pay for a dealers taste.

@jz4461 4 года назад

Interestingly that's exactly why I'd visit and shop at a place like The Armoury. I'm going to steal that philosophy

@SWatchik 4 года назад

As a brit and having met the owner of Anordain at an event I'm so happy to see some representation on the channel. The Series 2 fume dials are pure insanity, punches well above its weight.

@daveopincar2469 4 года назад

Wonderful interview with a unique collector. Really like the style of the gentlemen. And this collection. Thank you Tim and staff for the hard work. Please show more of the collectors watches. All stay healthy safe an warm.

@MostlyRight88 4 года назад

FINALLY ITS HERE, I've been waiting forever on this episode!!

@WristMech 4 года назад

Very good interview. Good questions, and Cho is very coherent and interesting. Thanks!

@guannan5085 4 года назад

Enjoy this kind of content so much! Talking to passionate watch collectors is the best kind of video for viewers to learn. Good job with this one

@steveyrock 4 года назад

Like this interview. Nice stories, variety of watches and comes up as general appreciation for watches.

@Spare84 4 года назад

Excellent conversation and obviously amazingly personal collection.

@ReignsDad71023 4 года назад

Love these Collector Conversation videos. Keep up the great work Tim! Greetings from Aruba 🇦🇼

@timemoney2775 4 года назад

Interesting 1st collector video, particularly about vintage brands or models that are less known to the public. Hope to see more.

@oclvcarbon123 4 года назад

Terrific, thoughtful conversation

@trel 4 года назад

Someone please tell Tim to unbutton his jacket when he sits down. Other that that, though, really interesting content.

@someHandle95 4 года назад

Damn it! I can't stop looking at it now! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ

@Tuneitupful 4 года назад

@Trel, just keep quiet and be thankful that Tim even gives us his time on these video. The man is the fountain of horological knowledge and all you can point out is his buttoned jacket. Just shhhhhh🤫

@trel 4 года назад

@@Tuneitupful No sacred cows, my man. Nothing can't be improved. You can enjoy something and still see room for improvement. No one should be so high and mighty that they can't accept criticism.

@Tuneitupful 4 года назад

@Trel, yes everyone has an opinion and yes you’re entitled to one, just please keep it to yourself. You may like the button undone, others may not. The point is, Tim likes it buttoned up and that’s all that should matter. Let’s be gents and leave it at that.

@trel 4 года назад

@@Tuneitupful It's cute that you think he needs an online advocate and honorable that you've volunteered for the job. What's bizarre is that you think a former military man (even if he was a sailor) needs someone to run interference for him.

@cardinalj 4 года назад

Great video. Thanks Tim and Watch Box Team!

@meznine44 4 года назад

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thanks!

@AugustusCaeasar 2 года назад

I watched this as a new collector, I didn’t understand most of what he said. Rewatched it again as a little bit more experienced collector and now I understand him more.

@FFL3001 4 года назад

Lots of great watches here. That 4072 is absolutely stunning!

@markgisi1838 4 года назад

Best video yet. Thoughtful collection that doesn't follow the herd.

@greaterbayareahero1401 3 года назад

Mark Cho has impeccable tastes. We can learn things from him.

@JB-xt3ly 4 года назад

Enjoyed this, I kind of dig this dude’s collection. Thanks Tim

@Annoyedsince1986 4 года назад

What a gentleman. Great vid

@DarthMalaks_Missing_Lower_Jaw 4 года назад

What a great story about the FP Journe watches.

@threehander 4 года назад

I don't usually watch this but Mark Cho is a great and charismatic guest!

@the1916company 4 года назад

Thanks, and welcome! --Team WatchBox

@KingdomArmor 4 года назад

Fabulous interview. Looking forward to part 2

@the1916company 4 года назад

Thanks! Its coming this weekend! --Team WatchBox

@johnwayne2103 4 года назад

This was an amazing interview. Wish you could have shown each one close up and it's back.

@mateuszmrowiec4265 3 года назад

More videos like that! Great production and story

@DocBaps 4 года назад

Fantastic episode. Please bring us more!!!

@the1916company 4 года назад

Part II is coming this weekend!

@Lassehansen3 3 года назад

So cool to see how he is wearing a city hunter 😄 must have felt like such a nice compliment for Mark.

@craig2100 4 года назад

Great show and conversation

@thewatchguyinc.7429 4 года назад

Excellent video Tim!!

@herbmerced7780 4 года назад

Excellent interview Tim!

@freddie8354 4 года назад

Fun segment, Courtney's reactions are hilarious, like how she doesn't hold back👍👍👍

@php-xv2cw 4 года назад

Awesome video ! Now we want part 2 about Grand Seiko VFA ! Thanks for this qualitative content

@the1916company 4 года назад

Thanks! Part II coming this weekend! --Team WatchBox

@The_real_Mr_Ghost 4 года назад

love the Royal oak. absolutely the favorite!

@swanhtet1 4 года назад

What a great episode.

@h111551 4 года назад

Your best public work is represented by moderation of panels at events like WatchTime LA, longer form interviews of collectors like Mark Cho and Richard Teevan and industry personalities at events like Dubai Watch Week.

@alaistairjones 4 года назад

Howard Meyers I concur. Tim seems to build rapport with those he speaks with, from watchmaker to collector, and the conversations seem genuine and candid. He certainly doesn’t insert himself too much. I’d take him moderating or interviewing over anyone from the big blogs/websites in the space

@davidoleary6631 4 года назад

We love watches but we like stories too. Great video.

@TimG-- 4 года назад

Great content. Nice video mate

@fliegerb777 4 года назад

Love the story about the F.P Journe...cheers

@PepsiGMT 4 года назад

Tim, nice to see you without sunglasses. Keep up the great work!

@greaterbayareahero1401 3 года назад

Great insight from Mark who has great tastes.

@dadcaniborrowthewatch8572 4 года назад

Interesting story, as always great video...but...curios how another part 1 is released? I'm still waiting for the multi brand collection Part 2. Thanks for all the content either way!

@bubbab7792 4 года назад

👍🍷👍 Part 1 was entertaining... Thanx Crew! Next!

@the1916company 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it. Part II coming this weekend!

@gmshadowtraders 4 года назад

Halfway through, and already this is one of your best videos Tim. This fellow, with his eye for vintage and overall collecting strategy, really hits it out the park. Phenomenal pieces. I would say, it's really unlikely that a collector today will have the opportunities he had. Or it can just be down to sheer luck I suppose :)

@markchodotcom 4 года назад

Thanks for the comment, very kind of you. You are quite right, a collector today won't have the opportunities I had on these pieces. I collected everything over a 15 year period. A lot of the pieces were just things that seemed interesting to me but not to other people and hence, cheap!. Sheer luck is a huge part of why some of the watches eventually became valuable, because other people started to see something special in them, too. Sheer luck is also how I happened to run into the right people at the right time. I'd like to emphasize this video is a snapshot of "15 years later". If I had to start again today, I wouldn't have a number of these pieces because they'd be too popular and out of my price range. However, there are a lot of really great things still out there that are just as interesting and yet undiscovered by a broader audience.

@gmshadowtraders 4 года назад

@@markchodotcom Hi Mark, thanks for the reply. I thought so! But it's also how you act when presented with those opportunities, at a time when nobody was even considering this stuff. My own watch collecting goes back 10 years, I had the fortune to find some pieces that literally can't even be found anymore, forget the fact that I have nowhere near the capital you have. The opening shot of the Grand Seiko VFA.... need I say more. That's a grail watch of mine. Where is part 2 dammit, lol.

@the1916company 4 года назад

Part II is coming this weekend!

@mcclechinois1213 4 года назад

Nice interview. Interesting tale!

@nickl9845 4 года назад

This is so good.

@VMui-hz4yk 4 года назад

awesome interview

@amintaslneto 4 года назад

Great interview Tim! Better than the pieces are the stories that brought us to them ;) Best, Amintas

@AnilSingh-de7in 4 года назад

Great video Nice set of interesting watches

@mark10601 4 года назад

Great video. Hello from 🇬🇧 I’m very envious of the critical mass of enthusiasts, collectors and dealers in the US.

@the1916company 4 года назад

Hi! The UK has a great watch scene, especially in London! Thanks for supporting our content. --Team WatchBox

@Khanh.Nguyen369 4 года назад

Mark introduced me to the Basculante. I’ve been searching for the perfect one ever since. I’m a little disheartened that FPJ took the stolen watch and didn’t even offer to replace it from the get go with an honest customer. Quite shocked.

@enriqueali 4 года назад

Actually F. P. Journe was legally required to take back the watch and hand it over to the insurance company. Since it was stolen from the company and they received compensation from the insurance company, the watch in effect became the property of the insurance company. Following the events as narrated here, F. P. Journe then had to actually buy back its own watch from the insurance company (presumably with the money it received as compensation). I find it ironic though that the collector said on more than one occasion how much he valued purchasing through reputable trusted dealers, yet it's one of those same dealers sold him a stolen watch. Shows that they didn't do due diligence in establishing the complete provenance of the watch. Even if the watch came with complete papers and box, it would have taken only a phone call to Paris / Geneva to verify the bona fide chain of ownership

@markchodotcom 4 года назад

@ City of Gentlemen Thanks for watching. Please don't hold it against FPJ, they acted properly through the whole thing. I had inadvertently bought stolen goods and so I had to return it to the rightful owner. At that point, the rightful owner is the insurance company who had paid out on FPJ's original theft years ago. I did ask them for paperwork to prove that and they kindly obliged as well.

@markchodotcom 4 года назад

@@enriqueali It was indeed careless of me to get caught up in this whole ordeal and subsequently why I emphasize to people to work with dealers they trust when possible. This dealer was new to me, it was the first time I had purchased from them. It was the only game in town for an Octa Divine 36 so I decided, somewhat foolishly, to take a punt on it. What was disappointing was their subsequent actions. If a dealer unwittingly sold a stolen good, I could sort of sympathize as long as they were willing to refund me and take care of what really is their problem: which is to trace back to the person who sold to them, report to the authorities and if possible collect the money they paid to that person. As an uneducated guess, they may even have their own insurance for trades like that. Unfortunately, they preferred to wash their hands of the whole affair so they had my money, the insurance company had my watch and I was just the schmuck stuck in the middle. Luckily it all worked out but it could have ended up much worse.

@jorgerivera2198 3 года назад

What a collection!!!

@lucioledizerot196 4 года назад

I absolutely love how every time FP is mentionned, Tim employs various polite phrases to avoid saying "he's a d*ck"

@enriqueali 4 года назад

Haha... yes! His advice regarding any potential meeting to "buckle up" spoke volumes! 😆😆😆

@mcclechinois1213 4 года назад

Luciole Dizerot -you think...it must have been SOME ‘encounter’!

@luxwatchesfornewbies3245 4 года назад

Thanos said FPJ figuratively pooped on Tim's JLC when they were having dinner in Switzerland. Maybe there was more to it than that, but I'm sure he felt some type of a way about it. For those outside the culture -- "felt a way" means someone was very upset.

@likeDC79 4 года назад

Really liked the video! More content like this please

@the1916company 4 года назад

You got it! Part II is coming this weekend!

@gsg1407 4 года назад

Nice video, thanks. Please give us more shots of the watches on the table, we could barely see them.

@stevenuk 4 года назад

excellent video.... 👍🏼 love the FPJ story..

@toddalquist3391 4 года назад

Really great video

@galvinwong9784 4 года назад

I've read the story in A Man and His Watch , but still looking forward to seeing his Grand Seiko VFA in Part 2 hopefully!

@the1916company 4 года назад

Stay tuned, part II is coming this weekend!

@miroslavrnjakovic8850 4 года назад

such a superior collection

@richardteevan4480 4 года назад

Great video and collection Interesting on the FPJ’s. See some similarities on the classic dress pieces Again, be great to see a closeup of every watch front and back macro

@mehtabbhogal5591 4 года назад

Cool guy and great stories!

@albert957 4 года назад

Great video! Has anyone asked for identification of the books in the center of the background?

@geezer8294 4 года назад

Very nice collection.

@TheVarskvlavtbichuna 4 года назад

Nice pieces & cool jackets

@rasmusbertelsen6129 4 года назад

Amazing collection

@caet49 4 года назад

Mark is the Best 🙌

@davidc5191 4 года назад

That anOrdain is quite a find. Among the Swiss I'm only familiar with the enamel dials of Ulysse Nardin.

@destalks 4 года назад

Love the story of the stolen Journe. Thanks for making this happens.

@Dakshmarwah 4 года назад

Brilliant 👌🏼

@alienhatz3265 4 года назад

great content

@irvingtorres5316 2 года назад

See,this is the type of watch collector i like watching cause they buy what they like and not what watch is hyped up...

@chrislee3919 4 года назад

Mark is always a cool guy.

@santfournier 4 года назад

Bloody hell, this was actually an interesting video worth watching! In my opinion the only one so far! Keep it up.

@the1916company 4 года назад

Ummm, thank you?

@santfournier 4 года назад

Don’t get me wrong I’ve been subscribed to you for a while, but somehow I’ve always managed to stop watching before the end. This one, like I said kept me watching till the end. 🙃

@DerekMitchell 4 года назад

We do need to see the watches though

@hwarangi77 4 года назад

I feel like I've seen more than a couple of hints scattered throughout Watchbox vids of some kind of Tim vs. FP beef. Wish someone would document that properly, Tiger King style

@alexeybarkovskiy9357 4 года назад

Interesting!

@robertosanchez4021 4 года назад

Please show all the watches on the table....

@psaez42 4 года назад

This kinda rivals Talking Watches with J.Mayer...

@markchodotcom 4 года назад

How do I hit the thumbs up button more than once on your comment? Thanks very much!

@atis23 3 года назад

This is better.

@Jevonpng 4 года назад

Tim where are your sunglasses?

@alienhatz3265 4 года назад

it's confusing putting out so many videos titled PART ONE

@wharry3116 4 года назад

anyone know the reference of his quartz royal oak??

@markchodotcom 4 года назад

56175

@hadiyousef 4 года назад

What’s the reference number on that quartz RO?

@hadiyousef 4 года назад

WatchBox Reviews thanks

@kanesweetzz7539 4 года назад

anyone know where marks glasses are from? very cool

@thomash.9930 4 года назад

Nackymade, maybe.

@kanesweetzz7539 4 года назад

@@thomash.9930 will have a look thanks

@apegrasshoplizard 4 года назад

Can anyone identify the watch in the top left hand side of the thumbnail ? It looks like a vintage King Seiko. Anyone know what reference and can link me to an image of the dial ?