Part Seven | Antares Confederacy | Stellaris Invicta Season 2 

That is a very nice looking ship. Also the one at 1:12 very Space Battleship looking. You have had great artwork the whole season.

What happened to nakiska?

What happened to your Soviet Union streams?

Machine empire play through next? Maybe with ACOT?

will there be a stellaris invicta season 3?

IT'S THE LORE GUY

LORE DADDY!

LORE MAN

Holy Solar Empire! For Valhalsium!

When the Lore Daddy himself gives your series his seal of approval, you know it's good.

Actually that would ironic in a good way.

What?! Did you smoke Blorg Spores (tm) or something like that??? The Antares Confederacy already have completed their mission by colonizing their own star system -- so there is no need to complete any "six hundred years old mission".

@@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 “blorg spores (tm)” Im dead as the XT-489 eliminators 💀

hahah never saw that comming ,

A new Commonwealth capital built in actual Antares?

Holy Solar Empire --> Don't push you're luck , heretic (O.o)/ @#$$

To be fair, we don't hear much from all the multiverses were the Unbidden successfully managed to destroy the galaxy. And according to the Screk, those are in the minority. Infinity-to-two isn't a bad track record.

@@Operator214MerchantMarine Unbidden: Well, this universe looks alright. Third times the cha- HSE: I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLSIUM! WITNESS MEEEE- *BOOOOOM*

@@pauldickinson3961 Valhallsium looolz

God I hope not… The Unbidden are easily the most boring of the Crisis factions. I’m hoping for the Contingency next time.

That’s a good name I approve

The Greater Terran Union: *Your free trial of living has expired*

@@501stClonePilot it’s confirmed to be the same universe right?

@@501stClonePilot I’m still confused about the Terran name of antares

@@thefolder3086 they are from different alternative reality

@@501stClonePilot but the plot is very very very similar

It had to be done

There was only one way this could have ended… because War, War never changes.

Totally worth it!

What else could have been done against an synthetic analog of humanity, that knew no other way of stopping war but to throw everything, and I mean, EVERYTHING, into the teeth that was their war machine?

War is hell

It reminds me of both Legend of the Galactic Heroes and Attack On Titan. Both present really bleak and cycular endings that portray war as the horrific truth it is, while also showing it's underlying prescense in the human condition. In the words of Yang Wenli, "The history of humanity is a history of conflict".

It's not underwhelming because war isn't being glorified or whatever. It's underwhelming because it feels like there's a lot of missed potential here, both within this episode, and this season as a whole. - The setup for this episode was extremely interesting. The Unbidden have invaded this universe, and the Screk (who are now a client race of Antares) were anticipating this for apparently thousands of years. Think about it. The possibilities are endless. How would the people of Antares react to this information (assuming it was not censored)? What about the other races of the galaxy? The fallen empire of the Ti-Zru has coincidentally also taken to the field. Since the Ti-Zru have a history of conflict with the Screk, perhaps they have tried to fill the power vacuum after their defeat? The explanations we do get for these events seem rather bland. - The UTP has been dissolved, only to have been replaced "by something even worse". It would have been interesting to know exactly what this meant. With the removal of the Screk, what are the motives of this new Terran Empire? How have they reacted to the Unbidden? Have they made any moves in the Galactic Community to seize power during this crisis? This video barely gives us any information, and what is given feels almost comically evil (use of child soldiers, scorched earth policy IN SPACE, ect). - The Antares Confederacy has been centralized into a new nation... yet throughout this season there was rarely any feeling of disunity. The only time when this was really explored was during Part Two, where there was controversy of going on the offensive during the war against the Anthorians (or Althonians). In almost every other instance, Antares' constituent nations and citizenry have seemingly been entirely supportive of any action the Confederacy makes. Thus, the payoff of finally uniting the nations of Antares into a new Commonwealth feels hollow. I understand that the nature of Stellaris makes portraying this rather difficult, but that's why these videos exist. I was more hyped for Stellaris Invicta Season 2 than I was for a lot of upcoming movies and shows, especially when the Antares Confederacy won the poll (a sharp contrast the GTU). Please realize this disappointment is coming from a place of investment and passion.

@@GalacticArchive0 I also agree that we should get more on the Greater Terran Empire; their motives and then desperate attempt to hold power, their pure Idealogy of effecientcy, all seems like a corrupt version of the Greater Terran Union. I expect a video exploring the GTE on its own; it's just got that much depth.

@@GalacticArchive0 from a worldbuilding point of view, you are right, there's lots of stuff that isn't told on this video, lots of mysteries yet to be explored. I for one, believe that while the season may be over, they will continue tu put out content about this galaxy in the same way they continued to put out content about the first season. After rewatching the video, I see where you are coming from, and I also see that the Templin Institute is probably limited in terms of stuff that they can put into a single video. In this video we got the endgame crisis and the completion of the Antares Confederacy's primordial objective. Maybe it would have been better if the video had had two parts but the Institute is going on break and maybe Marc had the pressure of putting out this video before that happened. I don't know.

@@GalacticArchive0 I have to agree with a lot of what you said. The Terrans come off as cartoonishly evil without any explanation for how and why they got that way, and the liberation of Earth feels tacked on, especially when you consider what happened in the streams. So details that could have been brought up, especially if the Liberation of Earth had been separate episode. 1) During the Unbidden War, the Terrans had been deep in a campaign against the Tauvarite (sp?) Empire, with an extragalactic gate on their border. The Terrans causally batted away any Unbidden incursion that came through their gate, but were too busy with their conquests to aid the galaxy at large. The whole "The Terran Empire are worse than the Screk" angle should have emphasized these conquests. The Screk conquered to create a means of defeating the Unbidden (and would have succeeded); the Terrans have no secret Greater Good motivations. Even if any of the Screk that fled to Terran space managed to inform the Terrans of their true purpose (before being killed), the Terrans didn't seem to take the purpose to heart. The galaxy burned during the Unbidden War and the Terrans were happily lighting as many fires as the Unbidden themselves were. They didn't care that the Unbidden were some great cosmic threat, just that they were competition that might interfere with their immediately goals of conquest. And after centuries as the puppets to alien masters, it kind of makes sense. They're out to prove that they no longer bound by any puppetmaster's strings. That their might is their own, not hand-me-down glory from the Ancients. If they did lead the charge against the Unbidden, they'd have just been doing what the Screk wanted in the first place - a puppet that keeps the show going after the strings have been cut. 2) Following the defeat of the Unbidden, there had been serious calls to go after the Ti-Zru rather than the Terrans next. The Ti-Zru were on the border of the Commonwealth, and during the Unbidden War were revealed to be slaving despots of the most hideous kind - stripping their slaves of their free will in a quite literal sense through genetic engineering. Not everyone was onboard with sending the fleets to the far side of the galaxy while monsters like that lurked on Antares' doorstep. The Prime Minister (ie, Marc) argued that the Ti-Zru hadn't acted aggressively toward Antares, had been instrumental in defeating the Unbidden, and still had an armada that dwarfed that of Antares or the Terrans. The time wasn't right to go against them, and the Commonwealth's focus should be on re-uniting humanity. As it stands, the Ti-Zru are the biggest dangling thread in this series. Hopefully they get mentioned in the Epilogue. 3) Antares owes its early victories in the Liberation War to the fact that most of the Terran fleets were still in Tauvarite territory. The tide started turning against Antares as those fleets returned; just like had happened during Operation Reyes. The Commonwealth had to bankrupt itself to maintain a fleet presence strong enough to hold the territory. Seriously, if the game had had to go on after that Antares would be have been in serious financial trouble, through scrapping several fleets and releasing a New Terran Republic as a vassal would have gone a long way to balancing the budget. 4) The last phase of the Liberation War saw the Terran High Command (represented by the Admiral that Marc had declared to be the canonical leader of the Terrans) fleeing to the Outer Rim in an absolutely massive fleet. The High Command Fleet was able to re-take several systems that had been liberated by the Beldross-led front of the Liberation War. With the Beldross-offensive collapsing, the Commonwealth was forced to hunt the High Command Fleet down to prevent them from launching a counter-offensive into the Terran core later, but the fleet apparently had some new experimental drive system (might have been using Jump Drives, might have been glitching, or Marc might just have been bad at keeping track of its location) that hindered the Commonwealth's ability to pin it down. The final confrontation happened when the a smaller Antares fleet happened to enter the same system as the High Command Fleet at the same time. The High Command fleet pretty much spanned the entire system, but was a bit of a paper tiger. With the Commonwealth seizing Terran core systems, the High Command Fleet had been unable to resupply and was running on limited power reserves (the Terrans were probably as bankrupt as the Commonwealth was at this point). The Commonwealth fleet was able to tear through nearest Terran ships before those on the far side of the system even knew they were under attack. The Commonwealth fleet managed to chew through the surprised and disoriented Terran fleet, which was too spread out in the system to effectively counter the attack.

“Gameing” -The Terran Emperor, as he orders to asphixiate 200,000 Commonwealth soldiers and 2,000,000 terrans in Phosgene Gas

Bruh I chocked on my drink!

Ordenstaat Terra

Oh god the TNO fans be here as well

@@obiwankenobi4252 I take it he has been found.

Same. I wanna know if all the secret communications between the UTP and Antares were in good faith, or if it was always their plan to use the AC to do away with their Alien overlords. Maybe some genuinely thought they’d be able to reunite with AC as equals, but were caught up in the power vacuum caused by the surrender of the Screk, and they wanted revenge that the AC wouldn’t allow them to do upon their defeated foes. These are some of the dimensions that I’d like to explore.

According to Marc, the leader of the Greater Terran Empire was the admiral that turned the tide against the Confederacy in the first war. I would love to know how they rose to power, their ideology, and ultimate objective for the GTE.

It would also be interesting to have a comparison between the GTE and the GTU.

Yeah, I'm still kinda confused at what happened with that one world in the Antares homesystem that had gone dark and was hinted at being connected to the GTU that the Screk saw across the multiverse.

@@chaosfire321 That world was where they had been doing their wormhole transportation research. It eventually breached into the Shroud and caused the first Unbidden invasion. Afterwards, any time they tried to use their wormhole tech to travel again, inevitably those ships got sucked back into that system. Which is why the original Antares settlers got pulled out from their wormhole into this system with that planet. The world itself has no connection to the GTU. The Screk had been doing their multi-verse viewing in the Archives.

DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

@@dontmindme1681 Fuck democracy. Long live the Greater Terran Empire!

@@Radonatorr screw your rip off empire *"GLORY TO THE GTU"* *"TERRA INVICTA"*

I got chills from that phrase too.

@@dontmindme1681 You are being liberated, do not resist

Beautifully said.

Truly

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

That would contrast with the idea of Invicta that has been inted in the video about the Screk Empire.

@@luigicampo4008 Not really, you can RP pretty much any mechanic to fit any story you want. You can use the necrophage mechanic to only represent the difference between believer and non believer of a faith in your empire, it doesn't have to mean anything more.

@@MrHellknightimp You mean a different version of humanity where necrophagy is part of a religion?

I was about to say "isn't that more of an Endless Legend thing?", but apparently Stellaris has vampires now.

Especially with how the Eternal Kreventum was described in the original season 2 listing of empires.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the GTE knew the psychological effect such an act would have on the descendants of the Earhart Flotilla. While they were the UTP, they had secretly corresponding with the AC for many years before the submission of the Screk.

@@fumarc4501 indeed they are , and you are correct on that part . But diplomatically speaking (and militarily) , correspondence with AC doesnt exactly mean they are friendly - its just basically they wanted to know the extent of military capability of AC and i could surmise that the GTE have made projections that if such an open warfare would breakout of their "run away" human cousins would happened , they made sure to inflict as massive damage as they could . Just like what diplomats do in real life , basically spy and prob an enemy state. basically what happened here is that its a big civil war between humans . And some xeno's are involve as well in the liberation of earth. AC maybe the symbol and democracy but its flaws still eneded up on a big civil war just to unify humanity and at the expense that earth , the birthpalce of humanity is now a big pile of smoking rubble If i was with the GTE, id made assurance that AC prize (earth) ., would never fell to their hands and most likely detonated nukes all over the planet , making it an unhabitable tomb world

Just to add , (but this is a constructive critism) ., this epsiode feels somewhat rushed and compressed , probably because of constrictions on run time , and its evident because of this being a 17 min video on what probably should be at least 30 mins. They never stated the drama or compeling narrative on how earth was liberated (or fell on GTE perpective propaganda) and how it ended up (despite being victorious) in a big pile of smoking ruined rock ., Templin needs to flesh out the details with that drama

@@Operator214MerchantMarine yes this. That is exactly how I felt. While they did do an excellent piece on the end game crisis war, the liberation of earth would be better saved as a separate video altogether. It did feel rushed. This is the problem with story endings a lot.

It worked for the Scottish when they would burn fortresses so the English could not use them

*Worth it*

Someone had to do it.

The name “Holy Solar Empire” is just so frickin’ cool

@@AzraelAngel945 I WANT TO SEE THE SOLAR LEGIONS DAMNIT

Carry on my wayward son There’ll be peace when you are done

Very nice catch. How the Antares Commonwealth would react if they ever met the Greater Terran Union.

That would be a meeting of titans worth exploring.

Or perhaps they both had the same perspective the GTU just never lost.

@@vincegalila7211 more or less, just GTU worth more and not just throw importamt human resources willy nilly.

@@fumarc4501 that’s like Spider-Man meets the Punisher

Now that you mention it...

No. The Imperium is not nearly as vile as the Greater Terran Empire. Try again.

More like burgundy in space actually

@@xenomang3149 How tf?

​@@requiemlul3140the GTE is a hyper materialistic state. There is no god. No emperor of high divinity. No greater purpose. For the GTE, there is only war and technology and to them, they are not mutually exclusive

Veni Vidi Vici

@@mosesracal6758 i know now imagine the Klendathu Drop but it's Earth instead

"Did you do it?" "Yes." "What did it cost?"

"Everything."

I see what you both did 👆🏽 😏 XD

We did it, so no one else would have to. Remember the Pioneers. There’s no real victory without great sacrifice.

@@fumarc4501 nicely said.

I enjoy these, too, but man are they depressing. Every single video is about a state that becomes ever more powerful, which necessarily means the individual's freedom deteriorates. Man, George Orwell may have thought it was inevitable, but I sure hope Humanity isn't doomed to have its face stomped on by the boot of the state, forever. Oh well, Stellaris is a game about conquering and genocide, and thus powerful and abusive states.

Final episode I think waited a month and a half for this

@@williamsewell9278 there is still another Final one

GTU/Antares: *worry not.*

Khanate: “HELLO BOYS, I’M BACK!”

Holy Solar Empire : Hey what about me ????

I’ve been wondering the same thing

Me to

Marc said citywallcitywok take hiatus from youtube

@@alkun9814thanks it's nice to have some closure

@@scottysnintendoreviews3510 yeah, hopefully if there gonna be next season. The concept of skyline invicta got more refined

Imagine the GTU, GTE or the AC vs. the Shivans? Or all of them combined? It'd probably still result in the extinction of all life, but damn would it be entertaining (especially if it were against Blue Planet's Shivans). "The Shivans span eternity and infinity. Their challengers are armed with weapons that shatter stars and tactics devised by galaxy-spanning minds. To be optimal is to be predictable. The Shivans are infinitely mutable. They contain all weapons and all stratagems, waiting in the dark. To attack them is to teach them your strengths and failings. It is a weak tactic in the short run, in a given year, a given system. But they have time to spare." "So in the long run...what could stop them?" *"They are godslayers."*

This. I would still prefer keeping it decentralized rather than centralizing it into a "commonwealth".

I feel like the Confederacy would develop a social mentality of self reliance and dislike of the central government similar to the Americans or the Dutch and those people would probably be armed, while it might of become a minority opinion by this point of the nations history I think there would still be enough of them to object and revolt

I understand that stellaris can't really show individual factions and politics within the government (I mean there is the factions system but it isn't well developed) which is a problem when roleplaying a democracy where internal debate is the point

Plus there could still be remaining nationalist sentiment, like people in sagello not wanting their affairs interfered by a Prime Minister from say, mekka

@@ronaldlennier86 I play a feudal empire for my play through. And internal politics would be welcome for me as well. Democratic republics aren’t the only systems fraught with internal problems. Same goes for authoritarian gives, the germans had people who wanted hitler dead, and nothing can more demonstrate the split in the soviet political system then the destalinization after Stalin’s death.

Would’ve be nice if the story mentioned that some Screk that were now citizens of the AC visited the rubbles of Earth regretting what they had done and unleashed on the galaxy.

It would br even more nicer if someday,one day AC soldiers that explored the ruins of ancient earth cities recovered some or most of earth's old identity at best.or old earth culture and history

I think they did hunt down and tried the war criminals, but once they dealt with the form Screk aristocracy all that was left were those willing to work with the AC. Many who had no say in the former Screk society. But I think the UTE took exception to the AC NOT butchering all the Screk to the last.

@@sfxanno2311 Luckily the AC have intact records of Earth before the coming of the Screk. They’ll be able to rebuild a lot of it. Not all, but it would be a great symbolic gesture.

@@fumarc4501 yeaaaa they would be able to rebuild most at best,i'd love to see atleast a few ppl who are cryogenically frozen since the earheart colonization effort be melted and i guess they are gonna rebuild some of earth's cultures,identity,history,etc

Who'll find a way to live one more day.

They were a lot weaker in this universe but it's just because In his play through he beat them faster the last time making them appear weaker

they got nerfed

Then it'd be fitting they remain alive- so they can see the horror and suffering they inflicted upon the greater galaxy.

Let's hold out hope until the epilogue

Epilogue. They didn’t expect to defeat the Unbidden so quickly or that the UTE would be so depleted from their uprising. But that’s what happens when fate is decided by a roll of the dice.

Remember that the story is mostly decided by events in-game, and unfortunately, things didn't work out for a perfect picturesque ending. Still, a great video, and we have the Epilogue to look forwards to as well.

I think that’s up to us to decide.

That is the sad reality of war. It is not the glorified victory that it can sometimes be presented as.

@@freewyvern707 correct war is always bitter sweet ., plus its corny if they potray war was glorious

yea