Good solution. I had to buy a large vehicle with a bed I can sleep in to continue to travel with my animals that I would not be comfortable leaving at home.
Did you not listen... they are not lying about being service animals they are taking advantage of getting them to be emotional support animals. Completely different
@@makinbacongreasyagain968 it's not just flying. These emotional support animals help them day to day so why should they have to take a bus which takes much longer just so they can enjoy a vacation?
That’s true. I assume with you idea, service dogs would be allowed on no pet flights though. Since I am sure that a lot of flights will charge extra for the service.
trinthetrex I don’t think that with his idea service animals will be allowed on no pet flights because that’s exactly where we are now.. They’ll probably just charge you less if you have a service animal
Lets shuffle everybody around a crowded plane because you insist on having your lap dog with you at all times No, no, no charge sir, the government says you can sue us if we charge you for the massive hassle you're putting us through.
Dogs should ba BANNED on all flights! They get into fights, get wasted, smoke, bring bombs, swear and assault the cabin crew....Oh wait that`s humans! My bad!
+Catta Summer Thank You, In my opinion a well trained dog should be allowed anywhere, and before people tell me they are unhygienic, look at yourself. And I myself have allergies, and if you have a extremely severe air born allergy to dogs, just get the immunization (Yes, it exists)
Turd Ferguson no you wouldn't poison it. you'd be petting rubbing and massaging the dog just like all the other white people would. That's what whites do when you see dogs.
+Jeff Stein Perhaps for a few individuals, but not most. Dogs die in cargo regularly enough that a few airlines have bans against short-nosed dogs, because they have breathing problems and the cargo area _doesn't provide enough oxygen to ensure they live_. Even dogs with regular muzzles suffocate to death. I certainly don't want to go on vacation, a business trip, or move to a country and have my dog die along the way.
Maybe you should take all that into consideration BEFORE you buy a pet. The rules are there for those that have a real problem. Every comment from you idiots that want to take your pet into the cabin FOR HUMANS just expose you as selfish, egotistical morons. You try to cheat the airlines and lie to do it. I wouldn't let any animals in the cabin except for those very limited situations like blind or truly disabled individuals. Maybe when Mr. Trump wins the white house he will address this issue of phony service dogs and the nonsense of emotional support animals for people that are just self-centered whiners.
I have an emotional support dog who is stressed about flying so I got him an emotional support parrot that rides on his back. The parrot however gets real twitchy during rough flights so I was forced to get her an emotional support hamster. I just love flying!
Funny...but, it does happen! I am a peacock's emotional support human, and I can't leave him. NO, it is not the one that tried to get on a plane in NYC! But I do really travel with a peacock, so we travel by RV van or RV schoolbus. I would have to bring him if I had to fly, as I am his only handler. Rad the Peacock is well traveled and has been to 5 states and will continue to travel with his human/critter family, regardless of how we have to do it.
Rycuda That would be why there should be a specific plane for Humans a dogs 🤦♀️ Someone with an allergy to dogs shouldn’t be stupid enough to go on that plane
Paul Metcalf I'm allergic to dogs and have issues w my sinuses when flying. If it's not a true Svc dog and you don't want to pay to store the pet then don't own one; it's called taking a bus or driving or using kennel services. ....
+Paul Metcalf , i hope the Lord never allows you to have to deal with a disability of your own, and if he does that people like yourself dont go around calling you a gimp or worse.
They aren't being abused, they're being utilized as an essential tool. over 300 animals die each year on airlines in hot cargo holds. The owners are only doing this to escape that fate
if you choose to have a dog, you also should comply with the consequences. Im extremely scared of dogs after a traumatic event. I wouldnt want to be in a closed space with a dog for 12 hours.
Gamer Weasel leave it with family friends relatives or a pet hotel. Or drive your own car than fly. Don't inconvenience hundreds of other people with your pet. Tons of people are allergic to certain animals or fear them. Bringing your pet on the plane or through an airport can be just as traumatic of an experience to the pet. Do everyone a favor and fly without them. If your travel a lot perhaps you shouldn't be responsible for a pet. When they close this stupid loophole it will be great. You also provide a bad perception for those who actually do need service animals for a legitimate handicap
Dogs yelp, kick the back of your seat, howl, run up and down the aisles, crap everywhere, and their parents defend them. Wait, NO, that is children I'm thinking about.
I had to endure a 5 and a half hour Delta flight from Orlando to LAX a little while back with a bunch of screaming, crying kids, and having little shit kicking the back of my seat. It was so fucking miserable.
I had the same type of thing flying back to Boston from Florida, with an injured back. This little hell-child kept kicking my seat, HARD, and every time it felt like I was being stabbed in the back and I couldn't breathe. When I finally asked the mother to make him stop she didn't do anything. The plane was full and I couldn't move, by the time we landed I was actually in tears it hurt so much. I wanted to strangle that little shit AND his mother. I don't think I have ever seen any pet worse behaved than a lot of children. How can people let their kids act like that? It's inexcusable.
+Elizabeth Adams Same here. I told the kid about 2-3 times to stop, but he wouldn't budge and the mother was sleeping and completely fucking useless When our plane finally landed in Los Angeles, I gave the mother a good ass-chewing afterwards. I'm all "Your boy kicked the back of my seat practically the entire flight. It really pissed me off." And her response was, "He's 3 years old, why don't you keep your opinions to yourself." And I basically said, "Why don't you teach him some fucking manners!" I was so livid. 😠😠
+JMMT7022801 OMG! Keep your opinions to yourself?? Yeah if she can teach her little brat to his feet to himself!! I actually love kids, it's the parents to blame for horrid children. There is no matter of opinion here lol, it is a fact that it is extremely rude and unacceptable to let your kid kick someone for a whole flight! Dang! Yeah it really pisses me off, too. You had every right to be livid. It's actually funny that so many people are complaining about pets flying who are way better behaved than most kids lol.
+Elizabeth Adams I know, right? I got to see the cutest French Bulldog on a Southwest flight from LAX to Austin a little while back. He was such a cute little bugger, and was so well-behaved. 😢😊
Airlines should also consider having 'animal-free' flights. As much as I love dogs, I can't be near them for any length of time because of my allergies. I was on a flight last November that someone brought their little dog on. 15 minutes into the flight, I started sneezing and coughing. Turned out, the woman was right in front of me. When the flight attendant came by and asked what was wrong, I told her it felt like there was a dog or cat on the plane. FA said "No, I don't recall seeing any notifications for an animal on this flight." Right then, the little dog let out a bark. Busted. The FA turned red from embarrassment, even though she didn't know about it, the woman turned around as started screaming about my picking on her dog, and me with my eyes swelling shut. Now, I have to make sure I have some anti-histamines and take some, just in case some other idiot smuggles their animal on the plane.
They should label flights as animal friendly and not. I would never trust the airlines to keep my dogs safe in the cargo hold. 300 pets a year die in the care of the airline staff, and even more go missing or get injured. They should start letting people bring their pets on flights and segregate the pet friendly from not. At least then we'll know our animals are safe with us, and no one has to be with them if they don't want to.
@@peterlongprong7521 Service dogs are one thing. Emotional support pets are NOT support animals and it’s very easy to spot the difference. Unless you’re allergic, you should NEVER notice a service animal
@@peterlongprong7521 You obviously haven't suffered from PTSD or some other effect from major trauma. Be glad of that. Get your OWN teddy bear and leave others to do what they need to to get through the day.
The real issue is that airlines and other government agencies treat animals like cargo and inanimate objects, instead of the sentient beings they are. If airlines allowed a person to buy tickets for their pets (regardless of size and weight) and let the pets sit next to their owners on the flight, instead of literally being thrown into an unpressurized, freezing cargo hole, this wouldn't be an issue. I've often worried that if I had to move across the country, I'd never be able to because the airlines prohibit my 113 lb and 55 lb dogs from flying with me. These ridiculous rules put people in this situation, where they have to lie to allow family members to be treated safely and securely. Just let people buy tickets for their pets (of all sizes), that way they're seat belted, safe, and secure.
I would support a pet airline, pet-specific flights, a first class section for people with pets. But for the love of God, don't make me sit next to someone's pet. They are precious but they smell even if you bathe them. They shed too, that is no way to treat the rest of us
Evolve I'm sure there are plenty of people who won't want to sit next to you in a plane either. Clearly, one who is so offended by a dog's natural smell or breath, and insists on them being relegated to cargo, or forcing their owners to be financially stained just to keep their family together while traveling, lack empathy and compassion. Do you call homeless people smell bums, too?
+Sparkling Silver Curls did you read the part where I support special pet sections? I am not offended so much as I am grossed out. Big difference. If us regular people are trying to accommodate but you still want to force animals on us for whatever moral ground, then you are an inconsiderate princess. And yes when I take the train and a homeless man/woman boards, I rellocate. Don't act like you wouldn't with the urine and flies on them.
I agree with Evolve, designated flights are okay but even that's a bit much. I can't be in the same room as a dog, or a room where a dog was without becoming completely congested, itchy nose, throat, and ears ect. Why is your dogs comfort more important than mine? Also btw most cargo holds are pressurized and your dog would never end up in one that isn't.
+Hey You I think there must be a way to make it comfortable for everyone. My father is the same way, I can't even go in my parents house unless I have clean clothes on and put a clean towel on my car seat. I very much feel for people with allergies like that and I would never want to make someone sick like that. Maybe just a section in the back for anyone with a pet? And be sure anyone with allergies sits towards the front to be far away? Everyone should be able to fly. Without getting sick-physically or emotionally. Not to mention vision impaired people or anyone with an actual service dog.
If you tell the airline in advance, they'll accommodate you. This is what people who are allergic do. They'll seat you far away as long as tell them about it in advance.
Lulu - if you let the airline know, they'll accommodate you. Also, it's not like a dog or a cat will be on a seat next to you. They'll be under the seat next to you, locked in a carrier. You'd not even know if a pet is in there.
@@Lulu-vi4wb You have a right to be moved if the airline have space and you ask politely. You don't have a right to deny the entrance of people with dogs just because you have irrational phobias.
@@jewelmarkess I was on a flight from South Carolina to Oregon. There was a dog under the seat next to me. Although we did not know of the dog, it farted several times and became known immediately to many. It was gross and disgusting. The dog owner was embarrassed but felt it was her right to have the dog with her.
Before airlines start playing the victim here, let's remember they put dogs and cats in a (not always pressurized) hold and they treat them like objects, rusilting in the death of many of them during a flight. So I agree there should be a more legitimate evaluation of therapy dogs, but I know I'd do the same if I had to fly with my dog, because I would never risk his life locking him up as if he was a load of package. Start a pet travel agency that treats them carefully and you'll see how this suddenly stops happening.
Yes! Espc even more fragile pets like birds. If there can b a fussy screaming unbehaved baby on the plane i dont see a problem with taking my well behaved esa parrot with me. Maybe i hv an allergy on screaming babies, put those in the cargo 🙄
so u would risk someone with a REAL disabilities life over ur dog? dude ur dog will start barking and lunging when they see another dog and if that happens a service dog can get distracted and miss an alert which could be the result of their handler losing their LIFE! this is why fakes are such a big deal! we need our dogs for a reason and you guys are putting them in danger, service dogs cost thousands of dollars. if they get traumatized and don't work the same...we can't get another one, so please don't do this.
I trained a therapy dog. Great Pyrenese named Maisie. Big, beautiful, sweet dog. Nursing homes and hospitals and she loooved kids. Before I could take her somewhere, she had to have a bath. That entailed brushing her thoroughly, then giving her the actual bath, blow-drying her and brushing her AGAIN. The process took about three hours. She had multiple certifications and had been training since she was four months old. She responded to vocal commands and hand gestures and had been trained that while harnessed she was not to bark nor leave my side. How many of these "emotional support animals" that people want to bring on airlines as "therapy pets" have the same amount of training as a real, properly trained therapy dog? This is just a therapy dog I'm talking about, not a disability animal for the blind or epileptic or truly disabled, but a dog that went to cheer people up at their lowest points. It's out of hand, how easy it is to print off a certification, get a fancy-looking vest, and boom! "Official" animal. It makes a mockery of those animals that have been thoroughly trained, and the people who take the time to live and work with those animals.
Amy Rider so glad you said this I’m sick of people bitching about my therapy dog being dirty when I go through the same routine as you. We haven’t flown yet but attend a lot of conferences, etc and I do get people complaining however massive compliments when the event is over about how well behaved she was, etc. She does make a little moaning kind of noise which people think is funny, but that’s just her telling me she needs to go outside. Half the time when we are in a hospital or working, most people are too engrossed in their phones, iPads to even notice.
I need my ESA but I totally get what you are saying. My ESA is for my incredably severe anxiety and being surrounded by a ton of strangers in a small space makes me incredably anxious. My cat is always clean when I do fly. I dont fly unless I have to. My ESA is also a cat and is super well behaved. And im on the registry. My cat is a registered and trained to be a therapy cat but she is not a service animal. I need her to not have a full mental breakdown on planes as I live alone.
Thank you sharing this important information. Hopefully, someday soon there will be regulations and license for each support animal. And not a phony certificates.
@@constancepeterson6156 that’s harder said then done. This is mostly due to that there are actually doctors out there that will give out a ESA license for pets, just because a patient says they need it, even though that person doesn’t need an ESA. Then you have doctors who will be bias and won’t test certain people for certain mental conditions. I know someone who’s thinks she’s on the autism spectrum, but is having a lot of trouble finding a doctor to test if she is on the spectrum. This is due to a lot of doctors think that only males can be on the spectrum, just because it’s most common to find it in males then females. Also she has a mild part of the spectrum, meaning that she only found out she might be on the spectrum due to a lot of research as an adult. But if this effected her ability to fly, it would be very hard for her to find a doctor to approve that she needs an ESA.
@@spottedtime you don’t need any certification for a service animal. This news just spread more false information though it was 7 years ago. You don’t need a certificate or a vest. Your dog also does not have to be perfectly trained as long as you can keep them under control in public places etc
Actually I do blame them. My service dog and I work hard to earn the right to do things that those without disabilities take for granted. Whether it is flying, shopping or even just going to a public restroom we have put 1,000's of hours into training our dogs to help us on a day to day basis. I and others with a real disability cannot go a day without our dog's assistance. They are our lifeline to a more "normal" life. So we train and work hard with our dog partners to keep the right we have worked hard for. I ask you, could you honestly fly without your dog? You yourself said you could by having it in the hold. I on the other hand wouldn't be able to leave my house. Now you tell me that it is just a matter of mistreatment. You could get doggy daycare, someone to watch your animal or many other solutions. Me on the other hand is in a position of having the freedom of travel or not. You decide just how equal that sounds to you.
+Eddie Carrington , but it isnt the option to kennel the dog or animal always, there might be a move involved that causes us to have to take the animal. and there is a true need for some folks with "true" emotional support animals.
I have to agree with Eddie Carrington. Too many people bring pets on flights for their own amusement only. There are services that are for pets only that help bring the pet to the country you´re going to. It´s called pet airways. And if you travel a lot and don´t have anyone to care for the pet while you´re gone, perhaps you should have thought of that before getting a pet. Sounds very irresponsible to me. And many people suffer with anxiety, stress etc when traveling but that doesn´t mean you can bring your pet along with you. Unless you suffer from SEVERE anxiety. Find other ways to deal with this, dealing with these types of things takes practice, you can´t rely on the fact that you can bring your pet along with you in all difficult situation because sometimes you will not be allowed to.
Linda f , you missed several of the points made here, but i can tell you have never had to deal with any of them yourself, so it wont get anywhere trying to explain it either.
So, your personal issues with an ESA means someone can't get treatment for a mental disability if they are on a flight when someone with a physical illness can?
I kind of wish this piece focused more on deterring people from doing this instead of giving them a roadmap and telling them how easy it is, but that's just me.
@@TjamVideoMan and yet there are still millions of americans who fake their dog as an emotional support/service/therapy dog. Believe me, there's no such thing as too much coverage on this topic.
@@TjamVideoMan @@TjamVideoMan Actually, as I said above, millions of people get away with it every day. It's because people like businesses/employees/managers/public stores/schools are so uneducated about service animals in public. It's why so many people will feel entitlement to pet your dog. It's why so many teams get denied access because they don't know or care to know what a service dog is and does and is allowed to do. If none of this happened on a daily basis, then I would agree with you, an abundance of info on fake service dogs and ESAs shouldn't have to be posted on every single video. but no, fakes are on a high as of the recent decades. more and more people want their pets to travel everywhere with them- and i mean *everywhere.* If stores were educated, they could kick out and possibly report/sue fake service dogs If schools were educated, they would educate kids proper conduct around a disabled service dog handler. If businesses were educated, they'd teach their employees, who would teach their children, who would teach their children and so on. But no, to the rest of the world, this isn't important right now. so in every way, this comment is 100% *it.* I wish that the news covered how illegal it is to fake a service animal/esa and how to spot a fake. i can 100% assure you people saw this and didn't learn 'oh this is bad', but instead went 'oh that's so easy, i want to do it too'. because there are COMMENTS on this video saying 'I WANT TO DO THIS WITH [pet]'. Thank you for your time
@@Lulu-vi4wbsoon they will kick humans from offices, and their own houses and keep animals because nowadays people care about animals more than humans
@@cheesycheshire How can you not blame people who go online, buy a scam and then get their untrained pet to fly to free? It's literally a crime to mislabel your pet as an ESA or service dog, and is offensive to disabled people who need those ESAs and Service Dogs (Oh yeah, did I mention you have to be emotionally disabled to qualify for an ESA? and have to be psychologically/physically/medically disabled to qualify for a Service Dog?). If you don't want your dog to ride in cargo, leave your dog at home. If you don't want to leave your dog at home, DRIVE THERE.
@@semiautomatic.companion I’m disabled and I don’t have any issue with people registering for an ESA. There is so much science that shows how animals are calming to humans reducing anxiety. As long as their animal is safe flying (not all animals safely can) and isn’t harming any passengers I 100% support this. There are so many cases in which animals in cargo on planes have been mistreated and died (astonishing frequent). It’s when someone claims there animal is a support animal that I draw the line. That’s never okay. Also ESAs have more rights than just flying on planes, for example people can’t deny the animals housing UNLESS the animal is a danger to others
@William Hoblitzell and you will be escorted off the plane and into a police station charged with animal abuse with the possibility of a 5 year prison sentence 👍🏻
@@semiautomatic.companion A genuine ESA requires a mental health evaluation. They can make a difference in the lives of those suffering from PTSD. There ARE scams out there to be sure.
I agree. Pets are our babies and deserve more respect. However airlines don't have respect to people and often cancel flights when plain isn't full enough making people wait forever. They don't worry about your pet either.
Candice Adams are you stupid? A very small percentage of people fly with pets in general. Opening “special flights” is a retardedly dumb waste of money
We all can support designated flights, terminals and gates for service animals, pets and their owners and the so-called emotional service animals. The rest of us need a break from allergies and fear of being bitten by animals - dogs in particular. Thank you.
Linda Allen a ESA isn't trained to preform a task for their handler, so they aren't service dogs, service dogs are different from ESA's, and service dogs aren't aggressive, and they won't bite you if they are REAL service dogs, they go through training and behavior testing to see if that dog will make a fit for service dog requirements, which is THEY CANT BE AGGRESSIVE!
Unfortunately this also extends to businesses. Where I work we had a safety issue when a man brought his "Emotional support dog" into an amusement park. The dog became freaked out by the crowd and actually bit a child. After the incident the owner then claimed it was our fault for letting him in with an untrained service animal. Sucks but these are the people who ruin it for everyone else.
You can put your horse on a horse plane, no joke they exist. I had a horse show in New York so we put my Friesian in a horse plane and they flew him over there.
It's actually the lack of pressure that kills, and any cargo hold suitable for an animal would have to be pressurized like the cabin, otherwise the every pet would die.
Michael Farris sigh.. does no one ever take a quick ******** google search before talking bullshit here... www.quora.com/Is-the-pressure-in-an-airplane-passenger-cabin-and-cargo-hold-different Read this. Cabin and cargo are both pressurized and while cargo heating isn't as effective as cabin heating, its still convenient conditions in the cargo (lets say 5 degrees less or sth.. nothing that would make you or especially a dog/cat freeze in any way. There is NO plane where only the cabin is pressurized, why can be read in the article
Another way to express, snub, and give a middle finger to passengers and Service animals. "Rules are for thee, Not for me", I see many Dogs, NOT Service Dogs, in shopping carts at grocery stores. I do NOT want my groceries, apparel, deli foods, or home goods in a shopping cart where a Dog has been. I believe, if a health inspector comes in the store and sees non-Service Dogs in the store, he will close the store temporarily. Dogs, service or NOT should NEVER BE IN THE SHOPPING CART.
as a frequent traveler i see so many people bringing their dogs on planes as emotional support dogs. they laugh about it. that they just want their pets to fly with them. you can also buy the red service dog vests anywhere on the internet with no proof needed. so they have lost their validity. drs will also write letters for their patients just because they ask them too. its too bad people take advantage when others try to do the right thing.
We fly with our dogs but we pay for the additional seat and request to be near the back out of everyone's way. It is only fair to pay for a seat and not try to BS the airline. And for those who ever see animals in the cabin be kind, they may have paid for the animal to be there like we do.
CheyFire but they are saying that people don't pay they do it just to to take there animal to fly for free. My friend has a huge social anxiety problem and she does what you do, she pays extra even though she doesn't have to cause her dog is specially trained to have him with her
It always seems like the ones who have integrity and do the right thing have to suffer equally with those who are dishonest. I do realize that freeloading and lying to the airlines is the point of the article but i wanted to point out that not everyone who has a pet with them is like that. Like your friend, there are many of us out here who do the right thing.
CheyFire how to you pay for your dog? Do you need to call them up and speak to someone directly? We leave our dog with family every time we fly overseas for work. We assumed we had no options but to put our dog in cargo, and with all the horrible things that happen to animals in the cargo hold, it didn't seem worth it to risk him. We'd happily pay for a seat to have our dog safe with us.
Animals are our babies. They should just like babies company us everywhere we go. No license should be needed if they are clean and trained. We need to train kids. They act worse then bad dogs when out.
Allergy medication exists. I'm allergic to dogs to the point where i cant pet them or even live in the same house as them without having a reaction but I'm on board with service dogs and therapy dogs. And its not just dogs, people have cats and small animals as well because of that sort of thing, if your'e allergic to dogs and cats you could have a pig as they are hypollergenic and are very smart and easily trained for service as well.
No medications exist that work for me so I guess I'll just suffer through my whole trip since it takes days for me to get better.... Just so these people can do this. 😕
They rebook the passenger that is complaining about Dog allergies and let the Dogs go on that flight. Trust me----I've witnessed that. So, the young woman, who will miss a Corporate meeting at her company, in another state gets rebooked on a later flight while the woman and Dog fly, on time to see Mom and Dad. WOW ! ! ! Let's prioritize. Flying isn't what it use to be.
@@vivianarickert8230 And thus I reiterate. “A fear of flying.” Anxiety - A feeling of unease or _fear_ from a situation Anxiety is a natural response to something like this. Everyone gets it, some more intense and unreasonable than others, but that does not mean it’s a disability. It is a mere phobia. ESAs are there to provide emotional support and will not be seen on the same level of crucial to ones survival as a consumable drug would be for example. There’s always alternatives available to you to cope with your condition such as anxiety medication that you can easily use instead. And if you don’t like it, then it’s simple; don’t use a mode of transportation which you know causes this psychological reaction 🤷♂️
@@Dragoneer I sometimes have too. I have the letter from my phyciatrist that says im allowed to have an esa. I have to travel to europe to visit my parents as they can't fly. They moved there for other reasons so I fly there twice a year. It is not indeed a disibility, but more of something that can get completely out of hand if not for my esa. I do take anxiety medication and I do go to regular therapy.
and to add, my panic attacks can get incredably severe if not for my ESA. I first feel my heart rate rise and my breathing becoming heavier and then I start shaking a little. After that I begin breathing heavier, shaking and finding it very hard to move. After a while it becomes harder to breathe, I find it very difficult to move, and I am violently shaking and this can go for hours. I am not explaining out of pity I am explaining the importance of my esa. My esa prevents this.
@@vivianarickert8230 I get where you’re coming from, I’ve had a couple panic attacks before and it was like exactly how you described. I’m very sympathetic in that respect. But here’s the thing I don’t understand. You’re signing an agreement with whatever flying company which explicitly says in their policy that they do not permit animals on deck yet you demand that they should change this just to suit your needs? That’s up to them. You’re not forced to fly with them, nor are you the only one on the plane, and in the eyes of the law it’ll be _your_ responsibility to be aware of these policies beforehand. You agree with me when I say it’s not classed as a disability so there are no legalities that demand companies to facilitate this either. And you also mention that you already do take medication for your condition. I get why, it’s a scary place to be with lots of people packed in one area, but what’s stopping you from taking medication alone? What makes you feel you _need_ your ESA on board with you if you already have a solution available to you without an ESA? P.S. None of this is meant to be taken personally, it’s just how it is. If you don’t like it then find a company that’ll facilitate to your needs, but by law they’re not obliged to...
My emotional support pig has a flight phobia so we bring her service hamster who has an emotional support cricket. The cricket brings his really brave flea who needs no support. We don't want to abuse the system.😉
Nah, it's just that any decent person would consider the life of their pet over you being sniffly and itchy for a couple of hours. I'd rather buy a ticket for my dog to sit next to me (trained, well behaved, certified ESA) than risk them being killed in the cargo-hold or transportation process during a 6 hour flight; especially with the increased number of animal deaths aboard planes as of late. I'm allergic to cats. Trust me, it isn't personal.
That's true. I see it everyday. people will take advantage of a situation if they can. Even knowing a certain situation may be illegal, to some it's still a challenge to see if they can get away with it.
***** As far as allergies, they should have an area designated which permits dogs so that people with allergies would not sit there. A dog can attack at any point in any place, even as your walking down the street so yet there is always the possibility that one would attack on a plane. There should be a rule that only people friendly dogs can board and or the use of a mussel.
USFanlovesjiwoo I have a mini daschund and I traveled with him in cabin just last year, he had to be on a leash inside of a soft kennel suited for cabin and also I bought a seat for him, he had all his shots, documents and had a bath the day before, they also requested for him to be calm during the flight, so I dont see why in this conditions small sized animals should not be allowed on a plane cabin.
Yeah actually pet skunks have had that gland removed so they can't spray lol. I love them, I would love to see one on any plane I am on lolol. I have always wanted one, they are great pets:)
@@thomasrebotier1741 Other countries do not have to go by USA rules. Think about that. They could care less & then also 30 days to 4 months for quarintine both there & back.
@@BBBYpsi It's not about the rules of each country. It's about airlines policies. They all treat animals like loads of package, many have died. I'd never bring a dog on a plane, but if for some reason I really have NO CHOICE, then the dog would need to be on the cabin. The hold is just barbaric.
Emotional support animals are not service animals. Also, there is no official certification for either type of animal. The ADA provides a set of guidelines to determine if an animal is a service animal. If anyone bothered to read it, they would know this. It says that a service animal is any animal trained in specific tasks to help their owner with a disability. It also says that animals whose sole purpose is to provide comfort or emotional support to its owner do not qualify as a service animal. Lastly it specifies that there are no official "certificates" for service animals. A trainer may provide a training certificate but neither it nor any certificates saying an animal is a service animal are backed by or recognized by the government. Admittance to a normally "no animal" area is decided by two things. The first determines if the animal is indeed a service animal. Is the animal trained to perform a specific task to help with a disability? If so it is a service animal. People are allowed to as this question, and also ask what task the animal is trained to perform. The second factor is that a service animal is allowed to go anywhere that the public can go. So for instance, an operating room would be off limits since the public isn't allowed to go there. A library however, is ok since the public is allowed to go there
You do have to have a letter from your doctor regardless, but there is no official registry for an ESA or Services dogs. Its websites like those that give actual people who need one a bad name.
Evolve I have anxiety/depression. I have tried medications in the past, but they have never seem to work as well as animals have. I don't have an ESA yet, but I do know that when I am around a cat, I feel so much better and that is what I want mine to be when I get one. There is a lot of different information out there about how to get a prescription letter. I have currently read that it can be any mental health professional or just your regular doctor. Though whenever I tried with mine, she was very ignorant on ESA's and acted like she knew better and that I didn't know what I was talking about when I tried to educate her on them. I have not tried to get one through a psychologist since I know they do not write prescriptions so I would have no idea if writing one is included in with that. Generally, if you would want to avoid that, it would just be easier to go to a psychiatrist. You have to build a history with your doctor so it doesn't look like your trying to get out of paying a pet deposit or paying to fly them with you on a plane. It helps if you are bonded with your ESA since then they really know how to work with you. Mos people think of them as "pets" when its really like an extension of yourself.
they are thought of like pets because it's really what they are. It's just they can fly with you and live in non pet friendly housing and nothing else. They cannot go in stores, or anything like that. So if you can own a pet, you have no need to get the letter right away from your doctor.
They are not just "pets" and ESA is an extension of a person and helps them with their depression or anxiety or social anxiety. You have to be bonded with your ESA. It's the thought process of thinking they are just pets that makes an ESA not taking seriously.
All service animals should have to go through training and receive certification before being considered a support animal. There should be universal paperwork that must be presented to receive benefits from support animals.
They do have to go through training, two years worth. Plus they have to pass the Canine Good Citizen test. The E.S.A.' s are not trained, and don't have to go through the C.G.C. test. But I think that they should at least have basic obedience training. They have training classes at PetSmart.
@@sherrielong6795 There is no such thing as a registered or certified ESA. To actually claim you have a official ESA or ESD these are requirments The emotional support dog (ESA or ESD)letter must be written on your mental health professional’s letterhead The ESA letter should include your mental health professional’s license type, date of license, license number, and the state that issued the license The ESA letter should include the date issued to you The ESA letter should note that you are substantially limited in performing or participating in at least one of life’s major activities due to your disability The ESA letter should provide justification as to why an emotional support animal is an integral part of treatment for your condition It is important to note that although federal law does not require emotional support animals to have any specific training, your pet must have good social skills toward people and other animals.
@@BBBYpsi That is not enough, like I said they need to at least. Go do the Canine Good Citizen test. That is what I'm saying, just because you have two letters from a doctor doesn't mean that they have good manners with people and other dogs. My service dog has been attacked. So I was saying they should be tested.
I love pets, I really do, never had one, but I want one. The issue that many pet owners don't understand is that, while their pet's life/health/safety may matter a lot to them, every other passenger's life/health/safety on that plane matters way more than any animal's. It is a horrible thing that animals die on flights, but human lives matter more.
I hope 2 years has changed you but if it hasn't I need to say this. No they don't. They matter the same but we are in a position of power and they are voiceless so yes we can be cruel and say we matter more. Fact is however that no human lives don't matter more.
i have a trained service dog name Hazel. she is my seizure Alert and mobility service dog! She is trained to ignore people and other dogs to only focus on me. when she has her vest and harness on she knows she's working. once last year i went on a flight to Arizona. My Hazel knows how to tuck under my seat to not bother other people as they are walking past us. Well there was this man who had a small dog. the dog had a vest that states it was a service dog. but Hazel once had to had to come out to calm me as i was having a panic attack for some reason I can't remember what trigger that but as she was calming me down ( doing her job) the dog started barking and growling at her the dog was also barking at other people as they were going to their seats. it made me panic more because i was worried that it would attack Hazel i almost passed out. the man did his best to calm and shut up the dog. it was proof that dog wasn't a service dog and the man was abusing my rights to have my service dog with me. I hate that this is growing and people are doing it JUST because they want to take their PET with them to places. so anyone who does that PLEASE STOP because you are putting My Hazel in danger. she won't fight back she'll put herself in front of me to protect me not herself so please STOP I NEED my service Dog to be able to live my life as normally as i could.
my wife has a disorder in which her blood pressure suddenly plummets and she faints. She has an actual service dog trained to detect the subtle symptoms and alert her. That dog goes everywhere with her. I truly hope that these fakers do not ruin it for people who truly need a service dog.
I actually totally agree. I was on a 6 hour flight to a another country (years ago) and there was an “Emotional Support Dog” running around the aisle without its owner. I had an allergic reaction and needed an epi- pen and an inhaler.
I work in a doctor's office and we had someone come into our waiting room wearing a large yellow and white snake wrapped around their waist. Our office manager went out there to speak with them and the person claimed it was a "support snake". Needless to say she waited out in the hall.
Although I agree that emotional support animals are not real service animals (unless it's for like severe anxiety attacks), there are more than just seeing eye dogs. There's the dogs that can tell their owners when they're about to have a seizure, and the dogs who can do things and retrieve things for people in wheelchairs.
My service dog tells me when I am about to have a seizure. He also sits on me if I do so I can't get up and wander off (I have partial seizures). There are more than just seeing eye dogs.
+Dotchi Latham Yep so right, dogs help with so many different things now, a young girl who suffers from dangerous blood sugar changes due to diabetes has a dog that can smell when her blood sugar is bad and alerts her. Her dog goes to school and everywhere else with her and is a huge help. Also mini-horses are also seeing-eye animals:)
Not so. Mine retrieves, helps me when I fall or have a seizure, fetches my inhaler and opens the door for EMS. I used to fall a lot before the docs put me in the leg brace, so we had him trained to get a specific person in the household when I need help.
Emotional Support Animal allowances are definitely being abused. If you have a mental issue that you need an animal companion to keep you stable, then it's all good. "He's my favorite (animal)! I can't live without him!" is no excuse.
I have had my ESA Dog for over 4 years for PTSD, I see how unbelievability stupid some (not all) people are with there "Pets" and buying an orange vest (can buy one for $50 on line) and just saying it's an ESA dog. I had a battery of tests, meetings, Dr. Appts and over 100 forms to fill out to get my ESA. My dog was trained specifically for PTSD for over 10 months. I truly believe there needs to be stricter guild lines and to lift the "Can't ask to see certification" rule. Too many people think that there pet at home is an ESA animal, and its not. It hasn't been trained and just because when having it with you makes you Happy Does NOT make it an ESA. Period
You are absolutely right, there is a big difference between a trained Emotional Support Dog and a pet who is needed for emotional support, and the line does get blurred, and too many people abuse the system and bring dogs who do not have the temperament and training for it, giving everyone else a bad name. I myself suffer from anxiety and depression and I am trying to get past it. I have a pet rat that really helps, and I bring her everywhere I can, but I do NOT go around claiming she is my official, certified ESA. I do have notes from a couple mental health professionals, but since when I do have her she is hidden in my sweatshirt so it just doesn't come up lol. I just can't stand when people bring dogs who bark, snap and growl at people into restaurants and stores and say it's a certified ESA. There is no way those dogs have passed the battery of tests. You have the real deal, and the people faking are ruining for people like you. I think there should be a better way, I don't know.
Actually, it sounds like you have a psychiatric service dog. Those are covered by the ADA and have special training--they can also go anywhere with you, whereas ESAs are limited to housing accommodations, air travel, and places that already allow pets. By legal definition, an ESA does its work simply by being a critter. For instance, my dog allowed me to stop taking one of my meds for depression because I'll get out of bed so she doesn't pee on the floor or starve, even when "so I don't starve" isn't sufficient motivation. She didn't need special training to eat food and go to the bathroom, but you'd be hard-pressed to argue that she's not serving a legitimate purpose by doing so.
+tinalbatross Wow it's actually good to know that I am not the only one who can take care of my pets even when I am so bad I can't care enough to take care of myself. Depression is just a bitch but pets help sooo much:)
Just separate regular airplane with just people and maybe a medical service that allow pets in it? That’s a win-win right? Because as much as i love dogs, flying with animals makes me uncomfortable.
Huge difference between an "Emotional Support" animal and an actual certified "Service" animal. If you cant fly without your invalidated little critter in your lap, then stay home in your "safe space" rather than imposing your entitled insecurities on others!
+600firefly1 I educated myself more on esa, therapy and service dogs since making that comment He is going through training to do tasks for me which makes him a service animal.
+600firefly1 While I understand your curiosity, I hope you can understand that it is by no means, ever appropriate to ask someone 'what is your emotional support (or therapy) dog for'? It is no more appropriate than asking someone why they are in a wheelchair, or why they're wearing a urinary catheter. There is a heavy air of suspicion attached to that line of questioning. Asking if the dog is either a service or therapy dog is completely fair and often welcomed. However, I'm confronted everyday with complete strangers asking me to verify the necessity of my support dog. I don't think they realize that they are essentially asking me to explain that I was recently raped and am having just a tiny bit of trouble not being terrified out of my mind, and that I was given this dog as a support tool. I don't owe anyone an explanation beyond 'support dog' . In fact, it is a violation of both The Americans with Disabilities Act and the Hypocritic Oath to ask for specifics regarding your need for a support animal. I just wanted to share that, because I don't think people truly understand how painfully invasive those questions are. Thanks!
My dog is now being trained to be a psychiatric service dog for me! I wish I could post a picture of him on here but if RU-vid let pictures in the comments, I'm sure it'd get ugly fast
I'm allergic to pigs, dogs and cats. If an animal is in the cabin, it better be necessary for the person to overcome a real disability. Your animal is potentially life threatening to me.
I understand what you are saying that is why I think people should think ahead of time. When purchasing a ticket say I am very badly allergic to animals & can be life threatning. This should go into the notes of that flight so if someone has a actual service dog (not a ESA because people fake that) then the airlines should refer them to another flight or have gotten a hold of you to see if you could take another flight. There should be some sort of communication with all the technology there is today this should not even be a problem. Once someone like you buys a ticket it then goes up as a total animal free cabin area flight.
The better solution is to have a general certificate that indicates that animal is well trained enough to handle the stress of riding an airplane. It does not seem unreasonable since we already need passports to fly. But animals do not.
It is very difficult to trust some other person take your best friend and to put them on a plane in cargo. It is just insane. If I flew from miami to austin. I would rather drive knowing my buddy will be with me. Just the trust is extremely hard to find in airlines these days.
Better than having them riding in the cargo bay and get treated like shit by the loading crew. Something like 300+ animals die each year from being transported that way. So good for these people for making the system work for them.
Alfred Neuman you know sometimes you have to bring them right? When one moves overseas for work. What are you supposed to do? Not take the job and loose your job or leave your beloved pet at the pound knowing that they'll probably be killed because no one adopts them? I was put into this situation and I paid for my dog to fly with me. There was absolutely NO way that I was putting my dog under the plane. Dogs are murdered way to often by airlines.
Jessica Ely except this in turn hurts HUMANS. Specifically the disabled and those who are allergic. Those situations are tough but people are choosing pets over another human's life. My SD is a lifeline and it hurts us when people bring untrained animals into the airport. It affects the way people see service dog teams which in turn causes us to have trouble getting into shops or restaurants. Life is hard enough with a disability but people cheat the system and make it harder. I don't mind when people don't lie their pet is a service dog either by voice or putting a vest on and actually pay the pet fee.
Jay Storm if one is so allergic it's not that difficult for someone to call an airline to see if there are dogs on a flight. My mom does this all the time it takes her 15 minutes. Also humans don't die a horrible slow painful death when flying on an airplane. Do you know what it's like to be locked in a cage in 110 degree weather with no water? No you don't. I put my dog under the airplane 1 time and they freaking lost her. After an hour they found her. My dog was barely alive. I took her to the vet and she had a temperature of 105 and was severly dehydrated. A temperature of 106 would of killed my dog. Animals feel pain just like humans, and they should NOT suffer just like humans don't have to suffer.
If you genuinely have a mental impairment you should NOT be paying anything to get a letter for your ESA. any online websites “selling ESA letters” is so disrespectful to those who have genuine problems (coming from someone who does fly with a ESA because of the anxiety i have been being treated for for over 8 years and who’s dog is trained to not be noticed) If you are someone who genuinely needs a ESA (as recommended by a LICENSED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL) you will be able to obtain a letter from your therapist, psychiatrist, or family doctor depending on who is treating you for your MENTAL IMPAIRMENT
Main Street Boxer I should’ve clarified that I have never paid anything because my insurance covers my doctors visits. You should never have to pay extra for a service like this. It should simply cost what your regular doctor/therapist visits cost.
Online “medical evaluations” should not be accepted. All paperwork for emotional animals should be issued by a psychiatrist MD, certifying such a need on the basis of a physical/face-to-face patient evaluation, documentation of treatment. But trying to get Fido to fly free by faking it all is an injustice to those who suffer genuine mental or physical disabilities.
jay simony Better than just rejecting all online letters would be to do what several states are doing and writing laws that say you must be under the care of a medical profession for a certain length of time before they can issue you a letter. Plus, if one of those shady Psychologists get caught, they lose their license. But there are legitimate online counseling services. Any appropriately licensed medical professional should be able to write the letters. After all, most psychiatrists are just glorified drug pushers.
How to tell the difference Pet: Will sniff EVERYTHING!! And will be very around the pet SA: will stay silent and focus on the world or their owner and be noticeable well behaved
The problem isn't the legitimate service dogs and even the somewhat less legitimate emotional support dogs who are actually trained to serve a purpose. The problem is people who think their untrained dogs are a human part of their family and then go to these sites that will give out a letter to anyone with the right bucks.
There were supposedly support Chihuahuas and Boston terriers at Walmart. The people had other people with them. . I just wondered if they were just bringing their pet to the store because they didn’t want the pet alone. But it’s none of my business.
If your excuse to abuse and take an advantage of a law that was meant to protect the disabled and impaired is so your pet is "safe" in the cabin, you're the lowest kind of person out there. Faking ESA's and the need for them negatively affects those who actually need and have been prescribed an ESA when they fly and even those with service dogs. It's brought so much ridicule to those of us with legitimate reasons to have a service dog or ESA (even though they have different access rights). I've been treated terribly by those who assume I do not need my SD because my disability isn't obvious when you look at me. And faking ESA's or SD's hurts all of us who actually need/have them. The only "certification" you can get for an ESA is a doctor's prescription in a letter that you present to the airline clerks/attendants.
ESA or ESD is completely different then a actual service dog. Service dogs have gotten special training & no,zero,non training is needed for a ESA. So many people claim they have a ESA when it is actually not. There is no official registry for a ESA all these so called sites that say they will register it for a fee is bogus. They take your money & sell a vest. What you actually need for a official ESA is. The emotional support dog (ESA or ESD)letter must be written on your mental health professional’s letterhead The ESA letter should include your mental health professional’s license type, date of license, license number, and the state that issued the license The ESA letter should include the date issued to you The ESA letter should note that you are substantially limited in performing or participating in at least one of life’s major activities due to your disability The ESA letter should provide justification as to why an emotional support animal is an integral part of treatment for your condition It is important to note that although federal law does not require emotional support animals to have any specific training, your pet must have good social skills toward people and other animals. I can almost certainly say very few people have the actual requirements for a ESA. So to your point yes most are faking it. Anyone can put a vest on a animal & claim this now a days but not actually officially is.
Airlines are so incompetent when dealing with crated pets, I don't blame people for getting ESA certification. In fact I think it's every responsible pet owner to do because of the airlines bad record with pets. I've heard horror stories of dogs not having food or water, no pressurization, left locked up and unattended, and even dying of heat stroke being left on the hot tarmac.
If you are worried about the safety of your pet, do not bring it along. In no way is it responsible for dog owners to fake a disability in order to bring their animals with them, simply because they want too. People who do that make it hard for people with a REAL ESA to get the accommodations they ACTUALLY need.
Quick Dodge I have allergies. So fuck you! It's hard to take your question seriously, when you drop the F bomb so early and for no reason. But I'll assume you're from New York and that's just how you talk. Allergies is a serious point. The airlines have to be responsible and expected to have a safe environment for passengers with allergies. I think most people would agree. I dont have a simple answer for that, but off the top of my head, I would say people with "severe" allergies should provide a letter from their doctor and let the airline know ahead of time, that they will be on the plane. It should be a first served process where whoever reserves a seat first has precedence. As far as a dog attacking someone on a plane, I've never heard of a situation happening. So I assume it's such a low probability, I wouldn't worry about it. If it does happen, the owner or plane will be responsible and the insurance companies can battle it out.
These incidents are always seen as being much more prevalent than they actually are. I've been on two flights that taxied back to the gate to let the dog out during a ground delay. I won't say they don't happen, but it's not even a monthly occurrence.
G Thom, ground delays. Glad you mentioned that. They can last sooo long and sometimes are hot and stifling. No way should people be forced to suffer through that with untrained dogs aboard. Legitimate service dogs are probably not an issue, because they have special training.
This is becoming a HUGE problem not only in planes. I run a tennis facility and people are bringing these so-called "support animals" to play. It got so bad we HAD TO BAN ALL animals unless they can preform a proper handicapped task on command, in front of us.
+Winston Smith That's illegal...you can't demand they preform a trained task in front of you...and what if it's a medical alert dog? should the handler have a seizure to demonstrate how the dog will handle it?
legally you can ask two questions (to avoid legal problems). 1. Is your dog a trained service dog (Depending on the state service dogs in training may count as well) and 2. What tasks is your dog trained to do? Please also be aware that many legit service dog handlers get harassed on a daily basis and wouldn't want to have a dog as a service dog if they had another choice. So just try and remember to be polite when asking please? :)
legally you can ask two questions (to avoid legal problems). 1. Is your dog a trained service dog (Depending on the state service dogs in training may count as well) and 2. What tasks is your dog trained to do? Please also be aware that many legit service dog handlers get harassed on a daily basis and wouldn't want to have a dog as a service dog if they had another choice. So just try and remember to be polite when asking please? :)
Obsessivedisaster you can't asked if its a trained service dog. The real question is, "is your dog a service animal?" That's all you can ask, not depending on state, ask if their service animal is trained, that's stupid sorry. "Is your dog a service animal?" That's the real question you can legally ask
THAT IS ILLEGAL YOU CANNOT ASK PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR DOGS PERFORM TASKS. Sorry for caps. Need to emphasize. Please research your rights as a business in regards to service dogs.
If humans feel superior enough to treat another life as property, at least they should treat their pets with maximum respect and consideration. I am not against allowing pets into planes as long as they are not a threat to people and do not endanger the flight.
I do not believe that any animal should be allowed in the passenger's cabin, period. I traveled by air since 1959, although I stopped flying a few years ago. More on that later. In all of those years I never once saw anyone with an animal board a plane. Animals were shipped as cargo. This was back in the days when people dressed up to travel, and acted with decorum. Now, most planes are filled overweight trailer trash who think they are entitled to be rude and stupid. In fact, I see people who believe and act as if rudeness and stupidity were virtues.
