Can’t stress how important it is to STAY CALM, like the man said. If you’re freaking out about each exercise and stiffening up, your riding is gonna suck. I passed by making myself chill out, and it’s not easy but you can do it. Any day of riding is a good day, remember? So have fun! :)
Exactly how I find myself, even during practicing.. I hate tests and end up shutting down. I have to get off my bike to stretch and take some breaths, calm down so I can focus and go again.
I just started riding on dirt bikes... once I got used to it I found I was able to keep my hands and arms a lot more loose instead of death gripping the bars.... it helped a lot.. went riding some trails yesterday, and it was some of the most fun I've had in my life.
I failed out of mine on the first range day in 1 1/2 hours...couldn't find Neutral, couldn't feel the friction zone, nearly dumped the bike on the ground twice, goggles fogged up to where I couldn't see, and by the time the break between exercises came around I was shaking so badly the instructor had me sign a form asking me not to continue, for safety's sake. It was the first time I'd EVER been in command of a motorcycle myself--no previous experience, unlike the rest of the class. So, my cousin is teaching me now, and when the time comes I'll take the class again.
Ogre Doug I've gotten registered for a beginner rider class at the end of July. This time I should do a lot better. Didn't have enough money to register for another class last year to try again.
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Thank you for explaining so well. It's way less stressful when you know what you're getting into. Taking this course today and tomorrow, hopefully will pass now that I know what I need to do!
Like many have said, very simplified and detailed as far as what to expect, how you’re evaluated, and how much you really don’t need to stress about this. Thanks brother, taking my final test tomorrow
@@theprodigal7143 It went great! Everyone in my group passed. We had a monsoon happen halfway through our test and they eventually cancelled the last 30% of the test. It wasn’t bad at all. Nerves get to you, more than anything because that’s the one time where everyone is watching you. I did the figure 8s all day long and kept making the turns tighter and tighter with success. During the test, I dropped a leg down on a much bigger figure 8 just due to nerves. Don’t let it stress you out
Thanks for posting this. Last year I tried to do the msf course and completely lost all confidence within 2 hours that I could do this. I had dropped the bike twice, was wobbly when first getting going, couldn't do the maneuvers well, couldn't shift gears well. During the first break I voluntarily removed myself from the class and ran home with my tail between my legs and felt so terrible. The next week I went out and bought a motorcycle off of Craigslist and practiced in a nearby parking lot for a few weekends and got the basics down. Even after all this I was nervous about taking the msf again because I didn't want to look like a dumbass and fail the course on the test but this has given me the confidence to try again.
That’s not unusual. A lot of msf course riders are total newbs and so was I. What threw me off and distracted me for much of skills portion was the clutch, shifter, throttle coordination. It’s best to practice before taking the course to kinda get those down so you can focus on the skills. I actually took the msf course twice. The first time right before Covid when I was about to buy a bike which got delayed once Covid shut everything down for almost two years. The second time was a lot easier. Practice Practice Practice and you’ll be fine in time. I rode around my neighborhood a couple days a week for about a month before I got over the butterflies of going out in traffic on highways as city streets. Haven’t looked back and love every minute of it. Safe riding bro.
First time on a motorcycle this past weekend and passed the test. This video helped ease me before going for my 2nd day. Did awful the first day but aced it the 2nd. Thanks
Thanks so much for this video Jelly. I had my first day of the MSF course today and although it was my first ever time on a motorcycle, I felt really comfortable and confident, and had lots of fun. Hope I pass the skills test tomorrow!
Great Video. You are correct in that scoring for the 4 Skills Evaluations is a maximum of 20 points total for successful completion. One can accumulate more than 5 points per Skill Eval though. The U-Turn box is a max. of 8 points. Lots of students freak over the box, but it alone will not fail a person. For the 3 re-maiming evaluations one can accumulate a max. of 15 per eval. Score sheets are set to MSF Standards and should be the same nationwide for the MSF-BRC.
This helped me pass with a perfect score today! Good job, thank you! One thing they changed (may be state to state), but we didn't have to do a completely figure 8 in the U-turn box for the exam (exercises we did). We just needed to do one U-turn to the left and come to a stop with front tire in a white box. Doesn't matter, I could have done the figure 8 if they wanted; your advice helped calm my nerves!
@@mtrotter325 Good idea! Regardless they have you do the full figure 8 during the exercises so you'll be prepared regardless. My best advice is always look to where you want to turn the bike, your body will do the rest. Don't overthink it and you'll be fine! Not being afraid to lean the bike is also a plus.
Nice video. Calm and informational unlike most moto vloggers. I'm taking the test tomorrow so this is helpful. Sadly it's supposed to rain for both days. So sad
I'm in the middle of a course thru our local Harley Davidson dealership and our day on the range today was spent in the rain. Nice steady Florida rain. So I can definitely understand why you don't like riding in the rain. Lol
Taking my class at the end of this month. I'm new to riding, and hopefully I should do good and pass the class, and this video definitely put me at ease because I know what to expect now. Thanks!
Josh, you will do great and have a blast. Your class may do a thing or two different but it is generally what to expect. If you are not subscribed please subscribe! I have a few videos for new riders. Thanks for taking the time to write.
Just took my msf course through OSU today and passed. Was way more nervous than I should of been! Also, my instructor gave my group the answers to our written tests lol it was easy either way. Also, we had 6 skill test instead of four :-|
Just took this test last week in NJ. It was a little different than what Jelly explained regarding the points. I am not proud of it but I did get a 20 and pass, however each skill test can be can be worth more than 5 points even if you don't drop the bike or do something dumb. so between the Box, swerve and quick stop, i only received 5 points, however for the Turn skill test I received 15 points. For anyone that might wonder how you can get 15 points on the turn test, it's all about speed and the inside outside inside technique. Following the Slow, Look, Press and Roll is very important. The thing i did wrong was I didn't Roll on my turns and I was slowing down on the turn. Main thing on this test is speed control. Good Luck!
Wow, I been looking around youtube for a good video on this subject and I played this one I said to myself...WOW this by far is the best explained video on the MSF course! Thank you, you should have way more subscribers. Anyway I'd like and subscribed. Again thank you !!!
When I took my msf course last year (I was 17 at the time) I was super excited and loved going quick. For one of my test we had to accelerate to I think around 15-20mph and then stop quickly before a given point. My dumbass went about 25 mph then in order to stop in the given distance I had to brake hard. My rear tire locked a bit I slid a bit. Didn't know side or anything kept the bike up fine. Passed with flying colors other than crossing the line by .01 inches on the figure 8 box test and locking my rear. To be fair to me tho I took my msf at a Harley dealership and the bikes there were a pretty decent size. Not some 125cc
I had to ride one of their TINY sportsters and I’m 6’-5”. The instructors apologized to me several times throughout the course because the ergonomics for a guy my size (I’m not fat) were just really bad and made it a lot more difficult being hunched up. I ended up passing but I was sore for a couple of days after. I now ride a cruiser which is soooo much easier. I can even do the box on my 23 year old carb HD softail. It’s kinda fun actually to do that one on your own in an empty parking lot. Practice practice practice. Safe riding!
They did not put you on a ‘tiny sportster’. They put you on a gutless street 500. The last thing they are going to do is put people on a top heavy sportster to learn slow speed maneuvers with. The HD Softail is an easy bike to learn on and ride.
Without a doubt the best RU-vid video of how to take/pass the MSF course I've seen. It was well organized; you actually showed all 4 skill tests; and more importantly, you showed how to pass all 4 -- with the caveat that as long as you don't drop the bike and you can pass at least 1 out of the 4 you're going to pass the course. That in itself helped me relax a lot because I start the course on Wednesday (2 days from now), finish it on Sunday, and I've been freaking out a little after watching a lot of the other videos. So many many thanks. (I actually went out today to the test site (a local community college) to check out the layout of the school/classrooms, and also the test area. Of particular attention was "the box". It appears to be 20 feet wide, so since I don't have my scooter yet I measured out 20' on my street and did figure 8's on my sport hybrid bicycle. It was certainly do-able on my bike, and I hope as long as I go slow enough and go as wide as I can at the start of each turn of the figure 8 without going over the line that I should be okay. The rest of the course was a little hard to figure out but your video showed it very well.)
Thank you so much for your comments! Sounds like you are well prepared and believe me, once you are there doing it you will realize that it is a lot easier than it seems. I don't know where you are taking it but keep in mind your class may do some things differently as far as points and things, but you will have no problems passing. They really want you to pass and you should go into it without being nervous. You will do great! Good luck!
You're welcome. I'm taking my test in Maryland. For now I'm only interested in riding a scooter (2015 Yamaha Smax; purchased already but waiting at the dealer until I get my certification) but they make you take the full motorcycle course. At first I was ticked off because you don't have to shift gears on a scooter. But the more I thought about it the more I liked the idea of at least learning how to shift a motorcycle because that opens up my options down the road in case I want to get a 300cc cycle (Honda CBR 300 ABS is looking real appealing to me). And I know that they never require you to get the bike out of 2nd gear so 15-20 mph tops would seem to be about right throughout the whole course. And that's the speed I ride at on my bicycle. So I'm at least somewhat confident I can figure it all out. (And on my bike I'm locked into the clipless pedals and there's no way I can touch flat footed with even one foot on the ground; it's always tippy toe with my right leg at stops. So advantage motorcycle. And I don't have to worry about pedaling -- just twist the throttle.) The thing that I think might take a while to adjust to is that on a bicycle both levers activate the brakes; there's no clutch on the left lever. So I'm pretty sure at first that I'll be expecting them to both be brakes until I get the hang of the left lever being the clutch and the right foot pedal being the rear brake. But they give you 6 hours the first day and I'm not sure how many hours of practice the 2nd day, so that should be enough to adjust. (Both days are 6 hours each but part of the second day is the testing. And then there's 3 hours on Wednesday and 3 hours on Thursday in the classroom.) I'll post back either way. But rest assured your video is a big help.
I wasn't sure how I was going to adjust to having a foot brake either but like anything else, you get used to it real fast. They spend a lot of time on braking because on the motorcycle the front brake is very strong and you have to be careful not to lock it up. You will get plenty of practice. Can't wait to hear how it goes!
Well...I went to the first teaching class last night. No biggie, but of the 24 people in the class at least 18 or more have already ridden motorcycles...some for over 30 years. So when it comes to the riding classes it's definitely not going to be a group of noobie riders, only me and a few others. But I can only focus on what I need to do and learn; I can't worry about anybody else. If they want to take a beginners class with all that experience that's on them. And they're calling for major thunderstorms on Sunday, the test day. But that can change between now and then.
Just took my test last weekend and showed my wife this video so she could understand what we had to do. Never been on a motorcycle before and I didn't miss any points on my test. Certainly easy if you can understand the controls and you pay attention
I'm in Maryland and they have a one day course which is what i did. Its an intermediate course for ppl that have been riding for awhile and don't have a license. We did 5 hours on the course and 3 hours in a classroom with a test. They also have a 3 day course for beginner riders.
+jeff Shannon Thanks Jeff! That is the main reason I went into the MSF course with the intent to make this video the way I made it. I was not able to find exactly what I wanted. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
I see this video was posted 8 years ago pre covid happy time, i took the MSF NJ Course in 2021, and it was 2 Days (SAT-SUN) , first half was introductions, paperwork, class work, followed by practical motorcycle stuff, Second day was a quick re cap of first day exercises, Final Practical (riding) and written test and we were sent home by 3 PM. Only 2 ppl who did not make it were surprising the most talkative/ know it all types.
I passed mine today with a 100 percent completion I was shocked when we got back in the class room and he said I didn't mess up at all because the whole time I was completely scared of the u turn
Hello Jelly My name is Danny and I am from Ontario Canada in our motorcycle test if you go over 11 points you fail and we have 8 exercises to complete. thank you for posting this video
This is exactly, down to every single detail, how it was when I did the MSF BRC to get my US license here in Texas. I had already plenty of riding experience from having a driver's license from back home in Europe, but I still picked up a few valuable lessons on the course. Definitely recommend everyone taking the course instead of doing it on your own, even though getting your license here in the US is laughably easy compared to in most European countries. Great video, I'm sure it has been and will continue to be of great help for people looking to get their M endorsement in the US!
+mannydcbianco I appreciate your kind words! I agree that this course is valuable to people even if they have experience. I am thinking of taking the advanced rider course next year.
Wish I would have watched this before I took my course..I was so nervous but it wasn't that hard. The Box was kind of weird because I've never ridden before, but the course was fun and pretty easy. Good video
One of the best MSF course walkthroughs I've seen on RU-vid. Start my 4-day, 2-weekend MSF course starting next weekend here in PA. I bought a bike about 2 months ago so I've been able to do some riding. Looking forward to getting my license. Thanks for the video.
Jelly Yea, PA offers courses ranging from 2 to 4 days. So I have 2 Thursday from 6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. days and 2 Saturday 8:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. days. I'll be looking forward to that last Saturday haha.
@@channlerregan8222 Yes. You'll go over everything that you need do in order to pass the Skills Test. I think if you do any form of riding prior to taking BRC, you should do fine.
@@NaijaBoiTellEm should I be concerned that I never ridden a motorcycle well the last time I rode a bicycle was when I was like 9 but with like training wheels idk if that counts
I don’t know the points system. But eg. If each section had 10 points and there were four sections, that’s 40 points total. Losing less than 20 points would be more than a 50% pass. Go figure. I liked the video. I’m in WA and here it was a 2 day riding followed by 1 day classroom. I would have liked some riding on the actual road instead of a parking lot, but what you get probably varies depending on location.
Not all classes are like this. I did a weekend class, (fri-sun). Friday- we started riding. We spent 6:30-9 learning to ride. Saturday- We spent 7-12 riding, with the test at around 1145. Everyone passed. Saturday - we spent 1-4 doing book work and the written test. Everyone got 100%. We didn't even come in sunday because everyone got 100% on both the riding and written exams. All classes vary and can be majorly different.
Here in Florida you must complete a very entertaining online module and take a test to get a certificate. Would you present on the first day of range training. Then you must complete two days of practice before taking a riding test. It was a lot of fun. I just completed it for the second time I took it the first time nine years ago. The only thing that has changed is that there is no classroom, only the online modules and range practice and test.
It is but when you start riding on a regular basis you are able to relax and focus on sharpening your skills like counter steering, breaking, slow speed turns and maneuvers and not worrying about the clutch, shifting, and the throttle. I’ve been riding about 18 months now and it gets a lot easier. Just focus, don’t panic, and don’t speed even if your friends do when you are just starting out. Give yourself some time to build your riding skills and you’ll be fine
That one looked allright, was it simplified since ? I looked at other videos and it looked easier ! In europe the test is a little bit harder ! You have to do everything in one go : It starts with one hard slow section (you need to complete it in 14s or more, it's the hardest part to learn), then a full stop into a U turn, then the emergency braking (35mph to 0), a U turn with a passenger (you stop so your passenger gets down), slalom at 35mph, u turn, and then 35mph avoid. You can put your foot down 3times, but any foot down above 3 is considered a mistake, and you're only allowed 2 mistakes. Crossing a white line = elimination Stopping the bike outside of the regular stops = elimination Hitting an obstacle = elimination doing the slow course faster than 14s = elimination (doing it between 14 and 16s = 1 mistake, and 16s or slower = good) going slower than 35mph for the fast speed tests = elimination You will have a 2nd try, but you won't if you crash the bike or take a fall.
Also for emergency stop you should be using both front and back break, really should be using both breaks on every stop, but as a general rule it should be 80/20% front to back break, you can stop much faster using both breaks as opposed to just front break
Yeah instinctively people clench the front brake when they have to stop quickly and that leads to a dump most of the time unless you have a newer bike with antilock brakes. My bike is 23 years old so I don’t have that feature and I’ve had two close calls in 18 months were someone in a car cut me off and slammed on their brakes to try and turn right off a 4 lane road. If you feel your backend sliding out from behind you but before you dump the bike you have maybe a second or two to release the front brake and the bike should straighten back out, but you have to react quickly to stop it.
There are 4 Evaluations. All comprised of skills practiced during the MSF course. Max points for passing is 20 for the entire Riding Skills Evaluation. A maximum of 10 points may be assessed for any one skills evaluation.So, totally blowing two of the skills evaluations will only have you assessed for a possible 20 or below “Passing Score” for the Skills Evaluations. The only “Immediate Failure” is dropping the motorcycle. If you find 2 wheels aren’t enough, try the 3 wheel course. There are some wicked 3 wheelers out on the market now days. Hope this helps.
You have really helped me destress a bit. I use a semi automatic scooter myself. (Honda 2020 125c Super Cub). Due to it not being similar to a motorcycle, i had to learn a lot of new things. My class is tomorrow and im stoked to get it all done and over with. The only thing im worried about is my foot to peg coordination is off. So having to kick a stick up and down within 5 seconds will be challenging for me. My Super Cub has 2 sticks instead of the 1 a motorcycle has.
one weird thing i found out is that everything is exaggerated when you are the one on the bike, you feel like you are leaning more than you actually are, you feel like you are going faster than you actually are. But then when you look at others doing it, it looks like children's play
Our bike license in the UK works kind’a the same.. we do CBT at 16 then 19 you can do your Theroy & A2 license limited to 47bhp then at 24 you can take your module 1 then module 2 to get your full unrestricted bike license.. it costs around £670 to do it all in 5 days course if you do it all in 1 go at 24yrs.. I like your channel dude
Difference being its way stricter with the maneuvers and they take u on the road to see if ur danger to others which a car park cant show. As much as i hate having to go through this process, im sure it reduces accidents
The figure 8 box is the stupidest evaluation ever. What difference does it make if you put your foot down or not? What are we testing here? Parade skills? When do you ever need to do this? Never. Negotiating a decreasing radius turnk from highway speeds would be more pertinent.
sevenrats U turns. They say too putting your foot down increases your chances of breaking an ankle. I agree with you though. Many people have trouble with slow speed stuff, and I believe the majority of accidents happen at pretty low speeds.
To show you have control of the bike at low speeds? In my country these tests are a lot harder, they have to be done on a heavy bike (~600cc), you can't fail any of them and they have to be done twice, otherwise you won't get a licence. We also have to do a ~45 minute ride on public roads with a trailing instructor in varried conditions to demonstrate we are capable of handling real scenarioes. In addition to that we have 10+ hours of obligatory driving lessons. All of that because they don't want unskilled riders on the road, obviously cause that's not safe for them or anyone else.
Thanks matr,this did help an made sense to me,it's too far where I live to load up my bike,since it's automatic, I'd just assume to use theirs,but I believe I got this as so long I get the right shifted,I've been practicing since I've had my bike for a few weeks, um new to motorcycle riding, if I pass I do plan on a 125cc or 150cc, an practicing on my road in parking lot on shifting gears,back to what I saying, I have been practicing on my swerve an doing slow u-turns just giving my bike enough throttle to maintain enough speed an help to balance the bike an without my feet coming off the pegs,I believe I'll be good to go.
I get nervous anxiety about things,this made me feel more comfortable an confident I can do it,an remind myself If i go first to breathe an just be like was driving around an people checking out my bike,which people love to ask questions when I'm stopped or have parked like when getting gas or stopping at local Walmart about my bike,how fast is it,how much was it,what's the ccs,an so forth.
And after they are done they have to rely on RU-vid to figure out "How to (counter) steer a motorcycle" and "How to perform an emergency brake on your motorcycle". So here the US are in the stone age compared to most European countries.
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I failed the first time. I got a motorcycle for my birthday, which is in July. I looked up the course schedule at my local community college, and saw there were 3 classes, so I signed up for one. What I didn't know is that they run the course all year. I didn't have to pick July, I could have waited for fall, but I didn't know. So it's 100 degrees, I'm in long sleeves, long pants, gloves, boots, helmet. Been out in blazing sun all day, got dizzy, and couldn't understand the instructions for one of the maneuvers.
Yea, I did mine in July too in Florida. Terrible mistake. 110 F not even at the height of the day lol. I was cramping so bad during the first day I thought I might of had to quit. But I soldiered on and made it cramping 12 hours later.
For the u-turn in the box, I'd honestly suggest practicing on a bicycle and just doing u-turns as slow and tight as possible, I hopped on a motorcycle for the first time about a week ago and did the u-turn first or second try after years on a bicycle
Yea, that u-turn box can kiss my grits lol. It's just so tight, but I understand the needing the learn how to counter-weight, but I just couldn't do it. Only area I got points. I can do u-turns on the road no problem, but in the class, the box was just too tight in my opinion. Also, in Florida, now at least, it's 15 points to fail and you can get multiple infractions during 1 test. And there's 5 tests that we had to do.
This a great explanation, thank you so much. I am about to take this test tomorrow and I am very nervous but this video gave me some confidence. thanks!!
Thanks, I took mine years ago and needed a refresh because my wife failed. I'm going to practice with her some of this and hopefully sufficiently in time for a retest in week. Meanwhile, just breaking in her a 250...400 miles to go 0.0
Indiana it’s a 1 day or 3 day… I believe that’s how it is in most states… You can go to the BMV and take the written test by yourself then later do the skills test at another date. You also don’t ride bikes they supply you ride the bike that’s yours and the bike you will actually be riding on the streets. My daughter could pass this test… Hell anyone could on these tiny bikes with moped motors on them.
Took part one of the riding practice today, in the rain. Answered all but one of the 21 written test questions correctly. Tomorrow is the last day of riding practice and the road test - there's a 90% chance of thunderstorms!! Well, that's south Florida. Can't wait to ride my brand new Kaswasaki Ninja 400 KRT Edition!
@@maxharris7517 You''ll have a wonderful experience if you sign up with Walter Dale Hobby, who has owned and operated the Motorcycle Training Institute/Motorcycle Safety of Florida (954) 214-3862. On day one of actually riding, it was pouring rain - we got wet but we learned not to fear riding in the rain - a good lesson. We all passed, BTW. "Dale", as he likes to be called, is a very energetic 5'5" cowboy, from his hat to his boots . Great guy, great instruction, glad I didn't go with the Harley Davidson course. Enjoy!
Thanks I just got my license I went to the dmv to pass the written test and since I’m Colorado they only have three places that do the driver test so I did mine at a third party test place which is a safety course place and I pass thanks for the info.
Great Video, however in New York City they do 5 exercises. I took it through Tramas Driving School and they took 25 points. Most of them for going to slow, and putting the foot down, I have some riding experience. there were three instructors including one on training who just started that weekend. My bike's clutch was worn out and there was almost no friction point, i brought that to the inspector but he said, it should be ok which it was not...very unpleasant experience
Taking my final class and test tomorrow. This video definitely took some of the edge off. Im fairly confident in all of the exercises except the figure 8 which we will be learning and doing tomorrow.
Gotta say this again, but thank you for posting this great MSF course video. I live in NJ and knowing what to expect ahead of time not only made it easier to focus on what skills to polish, but took a lot of the edge and uncertainty off! Passed with 1 point! Almost a perfect score! It was pouring rain today and i didnt want to lowside on the corner, so i slowed a bit more than they wanted me to and took a point for that. (i know i know, rain doesnt affect the tires as much as most people think)
elboricua123 nice. I grew up in Mercer. Being south in Cherry Hill is great because if you want to practice and ride where there are not a lot of cars, just ride east a bit and there are tons of empty roads between cherry hill and the coast. That is where I ride. It’s mostly farms and then the pine barrens. No cars, wide open. I love riding out there. No traffic and a great place to ride especially if you want to just get time getting used to the bike without having to deal with cars.
I’m in NJ took/failed the course 3 weeks ago we did a few hours in the classroom and 5 hrs on course day 2 and 4 hrs riding day 2 then tested. I got 11 points off by ex 3 for putting my foot down and going too slow and was told I failed out.
Great video. Thank you so much for taking the time to help those who are looking to obtain their motorcycle license. This video really gave me more confidence. Thanks again and ride safely SK.
Thank you for the video. I’m taking my class this weekend. Already feeling nervous and looking at all those lines confuses me but trying to be confident.
@@Jordan-fg7ek I was very nervous but everyone was really cool so that calm me down. I did pretty good, so the couches kept saying. Just needed to work on keeping chin up and look to where I needed to be while in a turn. We had class that Saturday and Sunday and that Sunday was the skill’s evacuation. Didn’t think I would pass but I did!
Thank you. I plan to take the course. I will also, check out your other Videos. MSF.com has an extensive website, which all should view if they have a chance. I recommend viewing it before and during the class.
