Pat Beverley and Stephen A. Smith SOUND OFF on James Harden Supermax debate 🍿 | First Take 

@whatjip How is he a troll if he is right?

@Time Traveling Old Man You know when the 76ers played the nets and KYRIE went after James Harden on Defense 😂 Kyrie Knew already James lost a step and said I am gonna guard you cause I know you ain’t got it no more 😂 can’t give a super max to James no way

On God😂😭

Steven dose sometimes to

@@timetravelingoldman6839 lol so you giving harden a supermax

nah it didn’t sound right

I was looking for this comment 😂

@Shoota 305 😬😬😬😬

He's a jackass and doesn't understood. JJ needs to remember that he's talking to someone with a 8th grade comprehension level.

@Shoota 305 yeah you can’t gtfo of here w that bro

There's no debate with Bev. Just drama and pettiness and of course there's gonna be ppl like u that loooooove this. Debate is about making great points, explain ur position eloquently... Bev is just acting the way he does on the court

I just don’t understand. Who wanted to hear from pat bev in the first place? Like of all players y’all could probably talk to you want Bev? He doesn’t know how to debate, he just tries to be petty and start an argument

@@sem2006fr u must b white?

@@sem2006fr at the end of the day it's entertainment bro to get people talking 😂. What you are saying is right but boring for the majority of people. Especially in the US it gives people something to talk about with their friends, family,etc. JJ Reddick podcast is also good for the type of content you are looking for. Although I wouldn't say I necessary dislike this content either.

Pat can't even debate lol

Right! 😂😂😂

🤣 reddick finna Throw hands 💀

Details on the have ; )

Haha, I love the flow of these 3 put together

Bev doin too much on a low

SaS hatin on another black man trying to mess up his money 💰 good job . Y’all would never say this about a white guy or bi racial or another race. Only black.

Steven a giving that boy the business?

JJ wants to curse Pat Bev out true story

Lol facts I find it funny how Pat Bev talked about how Chris Paul doesn’t deserve a ring yesterday but is arguing hella over how Harden deserves a max for 2 shot attempts in a win or go home situation 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

@@natehornbeck117 ring and money different situations

Lol 😆 🤣 😂 pure comedy.. JJ said I had him already this morning simply backed out 😆 🤣 😂. Beverly smh what a character

I already had him this morning you can go first… huh what do you mean you had me????😂😂

Once I heard that part, I had to rewind the clip back 😂😂😂

JJ tired of pat bev bs

Simp

Pat Bev is epic!!!

Agreed 😂😂

Next up Kwayme Brown

his troling'em and they don't get it :)

"get offf the weeeeedddd mannnnn" 🤣🤣🤣

@@erfansal1484 not even intentionally. he is just a troll and doesnt realize it

That’s what makes him funny af he don’t care about numbers as much as everyone else he just be saying what he want😂

They have Pat Bev' on the show to make Stephen A. Smith look smart(er) than what he's shown.

that's the part that got me. like, he gave NO actual argument for giving him the max other than "he's james harden...give it to him"

@@plainsimple244 well by that logic they have jj there to make him look dumber lol I think they just want him there to be entertaining man and whether you think he is or not, just look at the views from the last couple of days. It’s crazy

@@kesea5454 Yeah, player for player, all players vouch for one another getting the most money they can, that's what it's about; they put guys on these shows to see which 'side' they'll be on concerning these guys getting paid. Stephen A. Smith is on the side of guys not getting checks as much unless they 'work' for it...but that 'work' is just code for toeing the company line of killing yourself for nothing.

Exactly lol

22 10 8

🤣🤣🤣

@@Dacoda420 *ineffective 22, 10, 8

Harden was on god mode next to wade

Deadass 🤣

Lol

Facts

What do you mean " had me" . That part lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He has no elaboration. Its all feelings for him

honestly 😂

meanwhile stephen A is taking it wayyyyy to seriously XD

i mean its pretty simple. if stephen a would stop yelling and point out hardens efficiency is gone considering he shot 41% from the field this year at 22 a game when he used to average 30 and up a game at 44%

JJ been killing SAS every since SAS don’t know basketball

@@nubesock5231 no hes not cause what pats saying is complete and utter BS

Exactly, I know a few people like this, they just troll and try to get you upset 🤣

He opened with stats and facts you tard. Go back to china

LOL he has a future as a talking head on TV

what chaos? Everyone is good. Teams without him are getting championships. He is on the level like Perkins lol

You need stupid around to produce these kinds of segments, and Pat brings that in spades. I hope it's just an act, because otherwise, holy .... that man is D U M B.

Regardless of the age !!??!??!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Ong and it makes ESPN resemble TNT in the way that they’re raw, and uncut takes. ESPN aka Disney aren’t like that, so it’s refreshing to have JJ and Pat Bev on as analysts

W

JJ ready to fight lmaooo

@@twoine21 basketball players can't fight stop the nonsense 😂

@@drunkendesperado2128 ever heard charles Barkley or charles Oakley? I promise them two would beat the brakes off most men in their prime.

@@sh0cktim3 Ron artest, James Johnson, Carmelo all got hands

Lol that's right

Brainless...neurons are Toast, thats exactly how he plays wreckless...annoying

Pat think 22 , 10 , and 8 is a max deal because his numbers are 10, 3, and 4

22 10 and 8 are good stats no matter who the player is. People are upset at the fact that we seen Harden average better numbers and play better than he did

@@king-ghost1027 lmaooooo

Nah he just tryna hinder the competition by making whatever team pay him not be able to get other players. He works smarter not harder😂

Keeping the code

he's very bias

He’s basing it on past performances which shows how stupid he is as a gm

SaS hatin on another black man trying to mess up his money 💰 good job . Y’all would never say this about a white guy or bi racial or another race. Only black.

LMAO

Jj really meant he murdered him, but he was able to play it off 😅

Jj didn’t Jj face got red cause Beverly clap back was real

Yeah, honestly what was that? Like a group effort taking care of the drunk friend on vacations

@@jameyregier8054 haha exactly condescending asf

Pat is speaking as an employer ( worker) . I agree with Smith

Facts I was feelin that energy this segment

@@nickbh15 exactly ppl were saying First take is done after Max left or fired but SAS had to make changes

@@TheMr2face i left when max came on the show I'm back now that Stephen a is bringing in all these guests

@@oneskillpoint4669 true I believe that was reaction loses we want Max back, the show is not the same with Max etc. Ppl had to get use to him not being here then the views return.

@@oneskillpoint4669 max and Stephen a was played out the chemistry wasn’t there Stephen a is best debating forming athletes because their is clearly more respect for

Yooooooo that would have been hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

On the bros lmao

Straight Birdman hahaha that would hv been mack drop

Bruhhh me and my friends were just sayin this at my job 🤣🤣🤣

Bruhhh me and my friends were just sayin this at my job 🤣🤣🤣

Agreed. Harden has fell off and no one wants to blame him

Oh it'll happen but not right now. This is a classic tale of bigger sample size= I told you so. By 2025-26 season buyouts and clowning anybody who thought he was worth that max will be in order.

You’re right. I’m a Harden guy but it’s frustrating to see him this way, especially on the defensive side. After watching him play good defence throughout the whole bubble I thought he was actually starting to lock in mentally for the remainder of his aging career. Last season gave me hope but he just wasted this end of the season. Hope he picks it up again next year though

He’s the present day Carmelo... once an elite scorer on every possession.

You just described LBJ in your first paragraph and he always got paid…🤔. Proving its not just about stats, but what else you bring to the table. I agree with your second paragraph for the most part

Harden is unguardable let admit it

JJ would LOSE his mind 😂

If Patbev becomes GM then i will definitely be able to understand why dinosaurs extinct all of a sudden

JJ irritated by him you can see it in his face

i think jj hates patbev tbh

@@quentinpeyton1990 not at all. he was on his podcast month ago and it was full positive energy

If they did Pat Bev wouldn’t be on

Crying😭😭

He corny that wasn't even funny tho

@@joeljohnson6137 yeah his delivery was weak

😂😂😂

Na fr tho

Supa Max

yessir

The league and ESPN would start arguing lmao. He making part time money

BEST COMMENT LMAOOOOO IM DYING LMAOOO

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😅😂

😂😂😂😂😂

“Just trying to make sure the viewers understand what you saying”

😂

Right ! I was about to say ayoo

He changed possitions, the outcome is not going to be what ppl are expecting of him.

Chris Paul don't deserve 40 mil a year either, but Stephen A. not saying he overpaid.

@@lbjj5837 Every team CP3 has been on has increased in winning. James Harden barely made the Nets or Sixers any better

@@XayraX91 He didn't change positions. He was still given the PG duty even though he shouldn't have been. The difference is those foul calls he was getting for flopping to get calls don't work in the NBA any longer and his real game is being exposed as a 17-20pts a game scorer

@@lbjj5837 who were the suns before chris came?

Bright enough to play stupid and get Paid. Yes I agree.

Boy dumber than a bucket of shrimp lol

simple as that.

I don’t even think he deserves the bag. How can you give someone the bag if you can clearly see them declining

Them billionaires can cough up some more money for a mf who brought billions to this game. I feel like that’s what bro point is frfr I get what y’all saying u gotta play to earn it but there’s gotta be sum for a guy who played at that level for so long. Y’all need to change the cap or sum and use some of ur billions

He deserves SuperMax he still 22 9 8....but not for 5 years I'll give him 2-3 years or less if he want the whole 5

@@239fla8 cause he still has value

That a perfectly normal adult reaction when you have to explain the same thing over and over again.

Nothing but facts

Finally

Facts ain’t the truth tho.

@@taharkaimhotep341 fact /fakt/ noun "a thing that is known or proved to be true"

How you gone say that man don’t deserve his money,you sound krazy…

They would have to be nuts.

Dont be. His boss Daryl more is giving him the raise

Morey will probably give him the max, Sixers need to keep their young players , no need to keep out of shape Harden. He didn’t even try during game 6, when everyone else was trying to make some comeback

Harden puts fans in the seats and that's all that matters 2 the own be wants 2 make money on his hobby which is a sport team. U the fan are die hard end if the word u seen the commercial when the player leaves the team acting like u don't know what 2 do.

I wouldn’t give him a million dollars. He’s finished.

For no reason 😂😂😂

He is getting showed up by better basketball minds and players.

Really; you enjoy watching old men getting mad because some fool is being contrary. Each to their own 🥹😗😙😚

@@levels1937 he was right in this video tho….

Nothing gets that clown more wild up than speaking about black athletes.

Really Joker plays no defense not clutch but he's the highest paid and the MVP.

Ong

How is it funny? Steven a is making Beverly look like the idiot he is.

Repent to Jesus Christ “Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h

Who would watch it nobody I rather have mad dog

Right 😂😂need them together all summer 😂😂

menace 💀💀💀

Yep!! Lol

a lot of energy with pure feelings and no facts

And the same skills too. He’s a terrible player and now he’s proven he’s a terrible analyst too.

@@ryuji3111 Yeap just like a female 😂😂

No we don’t; this is nonsense. You sound like you like chaos’s 😆

lol.

@KillaBeats 6 Truiilife i was about to say🤣 people do this for likes cuz he sees you got likes

Repent to Jesus Christ “Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭7:10‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Bro ong 🤣🤣🤣

Facts lmao

Or he knows he as an active player its extremley crass to talk about another players money

@@delectableprovisions Oh every active player knows how much others make in the NBA, they just dont get to go on tv having to debate it to the Media. I'm sure their lawyers and other team mates talk about it, just like co-workers do lol. That's why he knows what Luka, James and Lebron make. They look at the other players stat line and their agents can use that as a baseline. That's why all these mid and lower tier dudes making hella bank, Chris Paul has helped them out alot over the years. Based on his stats, he should be paid (regardless of his playoff stats), now if they want to put it in playoff incentives, thats up to Philly. Doc will be there one more year, I would sign him up with a one year deal and rebuild if they dont do anything next season.

Pat Beverly is corny.

@@ay1kahS Yep, when he said what are you 🚬, I remembered saying that back in the late 90s 😆 🤣 😂. It was like he was waiting to say that the whole time. He need some more tv practice, he ain't ready for the color commentsry spotlight yet. He need to practice on the show Around the Horn

@@coreyharrell9079 he need to practice on RU-vid podcast first.

Agreed Sir - entertaining but almost seems contrived.

😂😂😂

.....and Pat Bev agreed to it 🤣🤣😭

Nah lol

SAS runs first take not ESPN

Nah he’s friends with James,, he just tryna get James paid ,, it’s what a good friend would do

That’s not true, it depends on the organization and player. Kobe got paid the max, he wasn’t a max player by any stretch of imagination b b

Over played players all over league. This why Phoenix hesitant on ayton

@@Tommy-hy1ob cap Kobe was still putting up numbers before the extension afterwards we all know what happened sadly injuries messed up his career post 2013

Hence, Ben Simmons. Paid him too much just to sit. Now he’s bitching and moaning about not being paid…. Get healthier and play, maybe you’d get that money back 100%. Don’t matter how much you pay Harden, he’s not gonna show up and it’ll be a waste of money for any org

He does see it. He just knows how much the media impacts real nba situations. So he’s going to ride for his friend.

@@copedigital excactly

@@copedigital bruh why does he need the super max? the media won't make him lose his job, they won't stop him from getting paid at all. he would only make slightly less millions than he would have. jesus christ. he is not a super max player

And quits on his team and bails when it don't work out

Nobody is slipping; new town, new mates, injuries, older and he still has 22, 10, and 8. Y'all just expected the 36 ppg version of the guy lol.

A real friend would tell his friend the truth. Play better.

@@nnamdiede1180 I'm sure both him and Harden know he's not as good as he used to be, but him going toe to toe with SAS and making nonsensical arguments for him is beyond loyal, he's legit working overtime to get his man paid.

I mean at Harden's age you would think it would make more sense to take a pay cut and try to win now. He has what 2 years left.

@@nnamdiede1180 a real friend wouldn’t blast him on National TV. You don’t know what they talk about personally

@@swimfan752 I didn’t say blast him on national tv, just say he’s gonna earn it. Not just sound delusional on tv.

Is it lol

And you gotta kinda respect that … lmao I love P BEV

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He can’t help it. Buddy isn’t too bright.

It’s gotta be so stressful.

😭😭😭😭😭

Very controversial and they are in no way liable for his tirades. Sweet sweet money flowing in.

Facts and most of us viewers ain’t mad at it 😂😜

As they should

Yeah but I'm here for it!... even though I'm still mad how SAS did Max.😒

I’m already over Pat 😂

You are correct. He's as horrible as the rest. Perfect fit lol

Only time I’ve cared about ESPN in the last decade is this recent P at Bev wave

just like cp3 huh?😂

preach

@@xx_noname_xx1976 CP3 doesnt have supermax contract

@@xx_noname_xx1976 At least CP3 been to the NBA Finals recently

Rudy Gobert has a super max... I'll wait.

Except cp3 and Russ 😂

SaS hatin on another black man trying to mess up his money 💰 good job . Y’all would never say this about a white guy or bi racial or another race. Only black.

Harden tore himself down. The media had nothing to do with it. Staying out partying, getting fat, not even trying on defense, and taking 2 shots lol.

what bag? he is likely getting paid less than he gets for a single game

@@GreatestManAlive probably still a decent amount of money.

@@GreatestManAlive I mean yea but you can’t just play in the nba forever lol. Unless you’re lebron

Pat Bev won’t be an analyst full time. He’s good for a little bit because he says crazy things but nobody wants to listen to insanity all the time.

@@GreatestManAlive well his nba contract would be horrible if ESPN could pay him the same amount he makes to hoop