Good triangulation lecture. However, it isn't necessary to walk until you hit 45 degrees to determine distance, this is important for long distances. For example, using his tree across the river example, say it was a mountain across a desert: To find distance to the mountain, walk at a 90 degree angle until you are 4.5 degree's from original heading. Then multiply times 10 to determine distance.
Had a great time at the school this past weekend Dave. For anybody watching these videos, you have to go to the Pathfinder School for a class. Experience of a lifetime! Thanks for the knowledge Dave. This final exam kicked my butt by the way. Overwhelming sense of accomplishment when I finished.
I finally get the tree height one, and you didn't even have to explain it in detail. I just saw what you were doing with the compass, and then I tried it out on mine, and I got it. Crazy cool.
Had a great time at the school this past weekend Dave. For anybody watching these videos, you have to go to the Pathfinder School for a class. Experience of a lifetime! Thanks for the knowledge Dave. Great video by the way.
Outstanding video Dave. Each time I think I can jump right to an intermediate class, then see on of the basic videos, I have to admit to my own ignorance. Thanks for posting.
Bringing back my Army Training. Love it. Just make sure you point out when navigating around an object that you do a box effect and to continue your pace count on your second turn so you don't lose count when you get to the object or location on the other side of the object you are navigating around. I think you kind of explained that but it wasn't clear enough for someone without experience to understand.
I love how you found the distance by trianglation. I have never seen this explained so well. Your gift from God is definitely teaching this stuff, never stop. The world needs this knowledge now more than ever.
Awesome vid dave. Great tips. I gotta give a big thanks to the pathfinder school for regularly providing these philosophy and technique videos free of charge to those of us who can't get out to Ohio. Keep up the great work and God bless. Oh and DS sucks without you!
Its surprising how many people dont know how to navigate w a compass. Getting a position fix on a map, estimating distance, night time navigation are all too important to know. Thanks Dave.
Dave this information is terrific. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I try to learn new things each day, and today you were my teacher. Thanks Dave.
Nice video. A good starting point is just to go to a high school track and walk off 100 meters. Yes, your piece count will of course change if the terrain is uphill, downhill, thickly vegetated, muddy, etc. but knowing your standard pace on flat terrain is a good starting point. If you want to get fancy, you can find a friend who does rock climbing and tie two 50 meter ropes together, and stretch it out in different types of terrain.
That was excellent. I learned dead reckoning from the Boy Scouts, but I forgot about the ninety degree detour around an obstacle and about estimating distance. And you make pace counting sound much easier than I'd thought.
Excellent video Dave! This is what they need to show when learning this math an example of it! I can hear the echos "what will we ever use this for" its stuff like this that brings learning alive. God bless you giving info for free I hope you get rich in return.
I remember this from Math Class in high school, I had a teacher who taught us how to do this. One of the only things in high school Math I still use. He used it talking about the Pythagorean Theorem (a2 +b2 = c2). The other thing he taught was how to drop a rock and use math/physics to determine how deep a hole is based on how long it took to fall using the gravity constant of about 10.
Dave, As a former Teacher who learns so much from your instruction, YOU BE THE MAN! Thanks for sharing and I look forward to supporting you in your books, products and videos.
That's some great instruction there Dave. Your pace count of 68 per 100 meters is similar to mine. I measured my pace count about 20 years ago, and it was 67 paces at a 100 yards. Mine is probably 69 at 100 meters.
You know you could create something like the metric system based on any value, could use feet for example. You’d just have decifeet, centifeet, millifeet. Decafeet, hectafeet, kilofeet. Then it’s also all in increments of 10. What makes the older systems difficult is that multiple base values are used. Feet, thumb with, arm length, the amount an ox can plow, the amount a man can march. And so on and so forth. All very useful back in the day because you get an idea of that distance very easily. But for sure meters are easy to >work< with.
thanking you all at pathfinders school for uploading these. im from Australia and hopefully someday i would like todo a course with you, but its quite a trip haha. but thanks for teaching ect :)
Dave, you kind of reinvented the wheel a little bit with you talk on distance estimation, but I did enjoy learning about estimating height. I didnt know that was called an inclinometer, and definately never thought about how to use it. Now that I know that, I wish the lensatic compasses issued to us had them.
What about teaching them to add and subtract from azimuth when going around a "danger area "? Just wondering why you didn't talk about. Great videos Dave I've learn alot from them!! Thank you
I've always wanted to learn this, inside and out. They should offer subjects like this in High School's accross America. For those of us who "can not" attend your class, do you have a DVD that we could learn from??
Great video this will help with really long walks up in the lakedistrict with cadets in pitch black. Love your videos. Ps what is that jacket you are wearing?
I have noticed with both soldiers and Boy Scouts that they tend to be excited on the measured course and really step out. They tend to take longer steps and their count is way too low later in the day when they are tired and on uneven terrain which makes them take smaller steps. I tell them to relax and pay attention to their steps on the measured course.
Hey Dave sorry this is a little off topic but can you do the pros and cons of wool blankets vs sleeping bags? also have you ever tried to make a pvc bow you should try BackyardBowyer for ideas. it seams like a vary common man.
I had kinda a hard time with the pace count when we did this in the Everglades. I think it was the third day and by that time I was pretty hungry and a little sluggish in the brain. I kept forgetting where I was in my count, umm.... was that 63 steps or 36, lol or I would forget to write it down. And the water moccasins were a nice touch, keeps ya on your toes :-)
sorry to be off topic talking about old videos but what type and were did you get the rope you used in makeing a survival bow bow string video the one were you tied it to a tree and twisted it on itself thanks for all you do with these videos
@wildernessoutfitters This may be a dumb question, but would pace counting translate into rowing as well? I was just thinking for us living near a coastline who would get lost at sea, we could pace out our distance with oar rows (if in a situation where a motor would die out).
They teach it in the Army....get up with any seasoned ground pound'er.....nothing against you Dave, just putting it out there. Good vid and info, brother. LOL Quiz: What is a reverse intersection.......i know.....a little too complicated 4'em right now but, maybe the advanced class? Keep up the vid's.
Good stuff Brother. I wish I could afford the time off to come learn land nav and compass and map from you first hand. Working for myself sometimes stinks. I don't know why I want to learn it as I've never been lost other than It would be a great skill to have so I could find things on a map easier,
There is a reason that the Army teaches land navigation this way; first its the correct way, based on years of use and refinement. Also the Army teaches to the least common denominator, or to the dumbest individual. Land nav is easy for some and difficult for some. It's also a perishable skill. Well done Dave.
Dave I remember watching your first YT videos years ago when you did that nalgene survival water bottle vid, must have been about 5 years ago now! Have pretty much loved all your work since, my brother and I are hoping to get up to the states (from Australia here) for one of your classes next year! keep up the awesome work mate!
Great lesson Dave. The best part is that it's something that you can practice whenever you like. So many people these dayshave no idea about how they use a compass, map and pace to navigate.
