he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.
@@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago. Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin
They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!
Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.
Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.
“When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo
Tsu: continues to give interview gold and begins to give intimate account of when he was recently shot 5 times, while also juxtaposing his situation with Nipsey’s who was also shot 5 times Joe: interrupts
@@mahmudchowdhury7557 that's what everybody thinks. Ish made an extremely logical, sound argument and Joe could do nothing but continue to try to move the field goal post and deflect.
Ish was right but I can see Joe's point too - it really depends on how you view it. Joe is saying you should attain a level of credibility if you have shown that you can do good business, a la Master P. Ish is saying it doesn't matter how much good business you do, if you don't look and act a certain way, you cannot ascend to a certain level.
Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network
Joe is right...but at the same time we can't expect the enemy to tell your story right..it is their stage we want recognition on...thats too much..why should your opponent give you a fair shot?
@@axa5005 Not subjective throughout the history past 400 years black people have never gotten their just due..because those in power continue to make sure your achievements, greatness is never shown and worse than that they actively convince others (the whole world) to disrespect/discredit/shortchange blacks in every capacity especially in 'regards'
The problem is they drop the episodes a week later on RU-vid. So all you need is some patience and you still get the same content at the end of the day. They not gon NOT drop something on YT cuz that’s just stopping another revenue stream. The Patreon exclusives don’t stay Patreon exclusives.
I would’ve been piiiiiisssssseedddd too! Pretty soon the lowest tier will be no less than $25 & that is where we will part ways! Richer gotta get richer by any means since they are creating the content! On to the next 🤣
@@Ellivation nah he shouldn't because that episode is available on a lower tier lol Joe finessed us Patreon niggas we should've stayed on RU-vid even the discord is dead
Joe has these arguments on purpose. These debates make for great podcast discussions. Even if he's wrong it's at least something to think about. Good shit
The crazy part is Joe smoking they ass and they screaming. If you can’t understand what Joe saying you really don’t look at the full scope. Joe right. Period
Surf is so aware of pockets n cameras, but he didn’t feel that lint on his face. Did he not kno the camera was going to pick up the lint on his neck when he turns his head?? Adding to the legend of dirty surf 🤣
@@muhfkajones I’m using my eyes that God gave me to be observant, yes. However To imply anything gay is childish. You may only observe things closely with something u trying to fuck n 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 (that’s y ur take is ur take) However some ppl can pay close attention to details wit no funny shit..
Vince & Surf would be a good ass podcast, shid even convo… Both young intellectuals, with great since of humor, that come from opposite sides of the country. That would be great.
Joe and Ish really kept pausing Surf words to argue with each other 😂 Joe:Pardon me Surf, let me say this.. Ish: Hey put a pause on that real quick Surf 😭😭😭😭😭😭
What y’all was missing from the argument is that we the culture/fans push the sound. If we wasn’t dancing in the club to people talking about killing their oops or doing drugs then that shit wouldn’t be popular. If the drill fans completely ignore the music like they would if it was some music they didn’t like then the sound wouldn’t get push. Violence/sex is always gonna sell. It’s up to the fans to accept it or not in their music. If a country singer started talking about killing their country oops the bag would still cuz their fans don’t wanna hear that shit.
Budden is an instigator…every great narrative has one…usually the narrator him/herself…Joe was genuis in switching those chairs around from the previous group of men 😏❤️🎈 Surf also adds a differing type of 🔥