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@nathanwilkins6107
@nathanwilkins6107 9 месяцев назад
To Matt’s credit, with FNAF, the safe answers are almost never correct. Matt was one of the first people pushing for some of the more controversial answers that ended up being true. So yeah, not everything will be correct but with this franchise you have to think outside the box because Scott is a madman.
@worminaround
@worminaround 9 месяцев назад
Yup, you pretty much summed it up
@3clipsecananimate
@3clipsecananimate 8 месяцев назад
Yeah exactly, and matpat's Cassie's dad is bonnie bro theory just got confirmed with fnaf vr 2.
@ponquin
@ponquin 6 месяцев назад
You think Scott knows what he’s doing?
@Luis-Sosa
@Luis-Sosa 21 день назад
Yeah but he's first theory was completly wrong except for the paycheck date.
@gmangaming9956
@gmangaming9956 9 месяцев назад
The biggest irony is that one of the theories that was highlighted a lot in this video about cassie's dad was proven correct in help wanted 2
@__Smiley___
@__Smiley___ 9 месяцев назад
You know it’s good Game Theory video when Matpats not in the Closet
@rockandrowl
@rockandrowl 9 месяцев назад
What
@nitronerd55
@nitronerd55 9 месяцев назад
​@@rockandrowlhe usually records his videos in a closet
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 9 месяцев назад
​@@rockandrowlit's a recurring joke
@rockandrowl
@rockandrowl 9 месяцев назад
Is it a litteral closet or is it a gay joke
@LacTose90
@LacTose90 9 месяцев назад
​@@rockandrowlyes😊
@Flugel_Halogen
@Flugel_Halogen 9 месяцев назад
Matpat was one of if not the first to do theorize about fnaf, and he was using the books to solve the lore before it was cool and now everyone is using the books and treating them like they are 1 to 1 canon with the games
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 9 месяцев назад
Well it's never been outright stated they weren't canon to the games so its perfectly fine to theorize that especially since there's a lot of evidence to believe they are
@Flugel_Halogen
@Flugel_Halogen 9 месяцев назад
@dumbly-stupid really? Is "all the books (or at the very least the pizza plex books) are canon" really the hill you wanna stand on? A majority of the books only exist to explain something that was to hard to figure out the first time, or them retconing and coming up with new reasons for things being the way they are. The Nightmares? Nah they weren't dreams or illusions, just Nightmare gas (as if that doesn't sound just as dumb), glitchtrap being a digital copy of William Afton? Nah that's dumb, it's obviously the mary sue mimic and it's master manipulater and master hacker abilities, Gregory a robot? Nah that's dumb, he's obviously just possessed by Mary Sue mimic and then breaks free and looses his memory at the convenient time ever. I'm not even saying all this cause I'm a MatPat Stan or whatever, I'm just pointing out that Matpat's ideas aren't the only ones that sound absolutely ridiculous and he shouldn't be treated differently just cause he's a big channel that makes lots of money
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 9 месяцев назад
@@Flugel_Halogen you seem to be mad that I stated the fact that its never been stated that they're parallels and that it's okay for people to have their own theories. I also never said what I believed or that all the books are canon and I also never said matpat was crazy or ridiculous. Also the mimic isn't a master manipulator he actually sucks at it as shown in FNAF AR he has to Google "how to induce compliance in human subjects" and when told by lius it's chocolate he actually gets chocolate that's why he goes for brainwashing in the Monty within and ggy. He also isn't a hacker he was connected to the pizzaplex systems by Fazbear Entertainment themselves. Though I'm 100% with you on the hallucination gas
@Flugel_Halogen
@Flugel_Halogen 9 месяцев назад
@dumbly-stupid alright, that's a misunderstanding on my end, I'm just tired of seeing people be hypocrites when it comes who listing reasons aa to why MatPat (or any fnaf theory channel really) be treated like this when they are literally the reason making theories about this game series got popular in the first place. I also despise the books for what they've done to the Fandom and how we talk about these games
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 9 месяцев назад
@@Flugel_Halogen I agree especially with the book parts I don't actually mind the books I'm neutral on them (besides stuff like hallucination gas which is kinda dumb especially when illusions disks are used in the same book series) I just hate that it's revealed in the books and not the games and I do think it'd be much of a problem if the books only expanded on stuff we already knew and if there wasn't so many of them
@MUSICBLASTROCKS
@MUSICBLASTROCKS 9 месяцев назад
i feel like people have forgotten the definition of a theory lmao, its pure speculation that, unless is confirmed or denied by the creators, lies in an ambiguous zone. how can something be wrong, or false if it's not even been stated by the creator? theories aren't facts, they're just headcanon
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
It can be wrong when he gets info wrong like saying chica was Edwin’s 1st animatronic in the books when it’s actually his 18th.
@MUSICBLASTROCKS
@MUSICBLASTROCKS 9 месяцев назад
@@pokestyn but like a theory as a whole, that could have been a typo when doing his script
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
@@MUSICBLASTROCKS the theory used the fact that chica is was the first as evidence. So the fact that it’s not the case means that one piece of evidence is not true. And that’s only one example
@MUSICBLASTROCKS
@MUSICBLASTROCKS 9 месяцев назад
@@pokestyn dude i'm not just on about matpat or whatever, im talking about theories as a whole, and that people take them as fact.
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
@@MUSICBLASTROCKS well when matpat uses his previous theories as evidence as if those theories are facts, it cause issues
@zioptis40
@zioptis40 9 месяцев назад
While I don't buy the Gregory is robot theory, MatPat is absolutely justified in going on and ranting about the toxic side of the community. Throughout the video, you can see him seething in anger and frustration and yet he never fully lets it out. He seems more sad and dejected at the end though. I really hope he's okay
@shortstickfights6772
@shortstickfights6772 9 месяцев назад
W
@akumuryuu
@akumuryuu 9 месяцев назад
I think Gregory Robot theory was kinda debunked by Ruin, when they introduced AR chip implants. But they never mentioned anything like that before, so at the time, robot was the best explanation. Considering MatPat has to deal with constantly changing setting and new evidence out of nowhere, this is basically IRL case of the controversial "updated autopsy report" from Ace Attorney.
@ronansullivan1645
@ronansullivan1645 9 месяцев назад
The best way of disagreeing
@YourManMichael
@YourManMichael 9 месяцев назад
One has to also keep in mind that not all the theories are one's Matpat even believes in, or has written. There is a whole team, and he is the presenter
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
Yup yup. Even when he disagrees, if there is even a possibility it can be true, he won't dismiss it
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 9 месяцев назад
Just for a bit of clarification, since you kept asking if it’s like the same person, this is like half the community that’s doing these things. Being hypocritical and accusing theorists of “spreading misinformation” with their theories is a mass number of people. If they are all like one guy somehow then I’m just impressed
@TheEpicGalaxy21
@TheEpicGalaxy21 8 месяцев назад
That one guy would just be waging WAR on MatPat at that point if it's true. Just dedicating several alternate accounts across various social media platforms all just to dunk on one singular creator for not making the correct theories and assumptions on some spoopy animal game.
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 8 месяцев назад
@@TheEpicGalaxy21 Spoilers for HW2, but whats even funnier is people were getting on Matpat about Cassie's dad being bonnie bro when HW2 proves thats most likely true
@PShrekky
@PShrekky 8 месяцев назад
Ok but he has literally spread misinformation at times
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 8 месяцев назад
@PShrekky Not saying he hasn’t in general, but from my experience a lot of the “misinformation” is related to his FNaF videos as well as other FNaF theorists. That’s what I’m calling out as bull since FNaF has very little that is confirmed 100% while the rest is speculation, so claiming a theory on it spreads misinformation cause it’s different from someone else’s theory is dumb
@ohhimarx1471
@ohhimarx1471 9 месяцев назад
I don’t understand why people think his theory’s got worst, I mean the amount of people who work on them has increased tenfold from when he thought wario was 10 ft tall.
@KenBladehart
@KenBladehart 9 месяцев назад
Many people working on a theory video doesnt mean good, rather its creates more busy work and down the road, produce straight up bad theory
@ohhimarx1471
@ohhimarx1471 9 месяцев назад
@@KenBladehart your logic doesn’t make sense, having more people means having more creative minds add their own input and improve theories overall, such as adding ideas from fuhnaf and idFantasy.
@KenBladehart
@KenBladehart 9 месяцев назад
@@ohhimarx1471 You literally just pointed out the major problem with having too many people working on one theory
@ohhimarx1471
@ohhimarx1471 9 месяцев назад
@@KenBladehart you do know that all of the world’s most well known theories have been worked on and improved by thousands of people
@Astrodino11
@Astrodino11 9 месяцев назад
@@KenBladehart what?
@roast_beef
@roast_beef 9 месяцев назад
if people think looking at animatronic design is crazy then they should see how zelda theorists have to examine every little intricate detail of architecture for their theories its honestly impressive
@hweaver888
@hweaver888 9 месяцев назад
8:25 the fact that Cassie's dad was just 100% confirmed to be bonnie bro is funny
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
Wait, is that true? I haven't watched a full Help Wanted 2 let's play yet! God, if that's true, I'll be releshing in seeing people eat their words! XD
@hweaver888
@hweaver888 9 месяцев назад
@@aniflowers1998 watch Funaff's let's play
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 9 месяцев назад
​@@aniflowers1998 if you want spoilers than it's below In help wanted 2 it's likely we play as Cassie's dad and during PQ4 if you light the gravestones in a certain order a secret room opens up there's a chest when you open it you get a Bonnie mask with the text "does this look familiar"
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
@@dumbly-stupid oh, that's really cool! Thank you for that info! :3 And thank you for beeing mindfull enough to put a spoiler warning, for those who don't want to be spoiled xD
@bpsara
@bpsara 9 месяцев назад
I wouldn’t say it’s 100% confirmed, but it’s very strong evidence imo!
@Swift96
@Swift96 9 месяцев назад
Also, I thought of another reason you shouldn't do this, that wasn't discussed in the video - like Matpat says at the end of every video, it's just a theory. Seems like these people who were saying he's wrong are taking it way too seriously.
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
The issue isn’t his conclusions. It’s that information he is using in his theories as evidence has been wrong on several occasions as of recently
@TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC.
@TheUltimateMovieWatcherINC. 9 месяцев назад
@@pokestyn As Matpat says, His theories are not meant to be right, they are meant to make you think in a different way. If you want to see a person who barely has evidence for his theories, go watch "The Theorizer". P.S I am not saying that The Theorizer makes bad videos, his videos are meant to be his own ideas and stories with small bits of evidence.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 9 месяцев назад
That's not a good argument. If the theory is trash, people are free to criticize it. That's just there as a lazy way to deflect criticism.
@shadowfan115
@shadowfan115 9 месяцев назад
Uhhh how is he supposed to know that future games or books would contradict a theory he isn't a Psychic or from the future
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
@@shadowfan115 I’m referring to instances where he is contradicted by information already available, not future information
@periodicgaming5159
@periodicgaming5159 8 месяцев назад
I never understand people getting mad at games theories. It’s literally the tag line of the show that it’s “Just a theory.” The whole point is to suggest an idea and new perspective to view a game, or show, or food, or style.
@catmandrinkscoffee1439
@catmandrinkscoffee1439 9 месяцев назад
The story of five nights at Freddy's is something you've got to piece together yourself. It's hidden in the backgrounds of the games.
@Grenadadwi
@Grenadadwi 9 месяцев назад
Kinda ture
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
Truth
@AlexDayz
@AlexDayz 9 месяцев назад
People often forget that FNaF was suppose to be Scott’s last game after many failed attempts at game development. People like to act he had a whole story figured out from the start when that couldn’t be farther from the truth. People also often like to dismiss the books despite them revealing William Afton, Henry, Charlotte, the names of the MCI victims, and so much more before the games. I’ve got my own problem with the books but they are part of the cannon, whether we like it or not. To actively ignore them or take them as fully part of the same continuity as the games is foolish
@keithshaughnessy1730
@keithshaughnessy1730 9 месяцев назад
When presented with an argument that differs from their own, some people experience a fight or flight response, so these people who are hate spamming because they disagree with his theories are because they for some reason are feeling attacked. It's one of them weird mental things our bodies do for survival. Instead of having thoughtful conversations and debates as to why the feelings are different, they're just telling them to f off, internet kicking them in the nuts, and then running away.
@SweetBananaDigital
@SweetBananaDigital 9 месяцев назад
I’ve always found GameTheory to be a lot of fun. The one kind of more fair criticism I’ve seen is occasionally when MatPat addresses something that involves historical accuracy and gets something wrong, or criticizing the soundness of some of the practical experiments he does like on FoodTheory. I tend to think those critics take things more seriously than they should, because MatPat’s vibe is usually just having fun on the internet, but I can at least understand where those criticisms come from. When it comes to vehement criticism of theories about fictional video game lore, I would rather just chill and have fun with the theories. Sure some level of plausibility is important, but at the end of the day you should want it to be an entertaining experience.
@huntersmith1943
@huntersmith1943 9 месяцев назад
16:42 welcome to understanding the lore: he gave a vague enough answer to be a spin-off, an alternate universe, a retelling from a different perspective, or a what if and those are just the ones that toke over as the general consistent for what he meant
@chebikitty5566
@chebikitty5566 9 месяцев назад
I think part of the hate is also caused by the same reason that pepe became a hate symbol, FNAF(especially the theorizing part) used to be kinda niche, and not in the oh we have 300 people that know about it way, but more of a this subset of the internet knows a ton about it and everyone else kinda knows it exists and not much beyond that. With the release of security breach and the movie a lot more people have been coming into the community. The people who were originally in the community before either didn't like the new people, or they wanted it to be a niche little thing so they could hold it over peoples heads. This group I personally feel is the most vocal in their hate but they don't have a way to hit the new people so they are hitting the figure heads, Matpat and the other FNAF theorizers.
@ThiagoBits-lz7yo
@ThiagoBits-lz7yo 9 месяцев назад
seeing the part about cassie's dad = bonnie bro is very funny given the lastest release. matpat has been avenged.
@7KRocks
@7KRocks 8 месяцев назад
As someone who is mainly into FNAF because of the lore, part of the fun is how complicated it is which makes it such as fun puzzle to try and solve
@Cinnamowo
@Cinnamowo 9 месяцев назад
I hate it when Matt doesn't do enough research while making videos about other games that he is not that much familiar with, but his FNaF videos are ok, he usually still finds some interesting leads and pieces that can be interpreted better in the future Honestly, Matt getting hate for his theories is absolutely unbelievable to me, because there are literally other theoriests in the fandom who say some random nonsense stuff and then people on reddit are like "Damn they are good"
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
Hypocrisy and they want to feel different. The funny thing is Matt also gets his ideas from other theorists and vice versa
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts 9 месяцев назад
once again, nice job reacting. Really feels different then others. I'm actually here for patt rather then just matpat. Comment related to the video? I appreciate the advice about the vibe check. I'm not part of the fnaf theories except game theory....but on a different game, I do see the "beat down" comments where if you get something wrong, they just beat you down, and it does not fit the vibe... so whenever I see the poster replying, it's to the ones being more civil.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
Funny you say he could have gone off more, considering this video GameTheorie got a lot of flag for Mat Pat beeing, and I quote, "salty", "disrespectfull" and, classic, "close minded"
@skyydafairyy
@skyydafairyy 9 месяцев назад
as a long-time viewer of game theory, I've always found it weird when people take it THAT seriously. Like, Team Theorist is just full of silly goofy dudes writing fun stories about fiction. That's all it is.
@jonasquinn7977
@jonasquinn7977 9 месяцев назад
The issue with the books canonicity is that they’re anthologies that either tell unrelated stories or serve as parallels to the games. So a book can have a character that is clearly a parallel of game character but the debate arises whether that exact story happened in the canon of the games or if it’s just meant to give us ideas.
@CatsLilaSalem
@CatsLilaSalem 9 месяцев назад
The books are meant to be seperatle lore, cannon, but at the same time lots of ideas and lore from the books bleeds back into the games, or is even inspired by the games but never made clear in the games themselves. The books being seperate made people really skeptic, but it turned out that the books and games still had lots of things that where kept the same
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
Pretty much a lose-lose situation fot the fandom
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid 9 месяцев назад
Not confirmed as nothing has ever been said about the books continuity except for the silver eyes which was the first book back in 2015 which Scott directly stated "this is it's own canon" with the newer ones they're more vague as it can really be either way
@CatsLilaSalem
@CatsLilaSalem 9 месяцев назад
@@dumbly-stupid Good correction, but the fact that the first one was called "own canon" is why people really did not like theories based on the books at the start. I think the canon comment was to seperate the books stories from the game, but not the lore of how things work in general within the FNAF world
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
Didn’t Matt explain the difference between Canon and Continuity
@vaporean_boylove.0w083
@vaporean_boylove.0w083 20 дней назад
​@@neovagras980 I do believe he did. Something can still be canon, but not in the same continuity.
@viniferreira2192
@viniferreira2192 9 месяцев назад
If you want to criticize then have arguments, dont be like "thats stupid'' and then refuse to ellaborate.
@cyluvr
@cyluvr 9 месяцев назад
i love matterrzpatterrz reacts
@mannyegarica12
@mannyegarica12 9 месяцев назад
Another thing as well is Scott mentioned he didn't really expect the first game to blow up. It would be his last game because of the bad critic's score and review scores from all his past games. If the first FNAF game was terrible, Scott would have quit and had no more games.
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying 9 месяцев назад
But would he have unlimited bacon?
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts
@Evitzeoshowerthoughts 9 месяцев назад
wasn't it the same for 4 too? people hated dream theory so he kept it going where the first 4 games are in-game game recreations that only have slight differences
@mannyegarica12
@mannyegarica12 9 месяцев назад
@@Evitzeoshowerthoughts Yeah, he recently recon FNAF 4 instead of illusion disk. It was experimenting with Hyper hallucinated nightmare gas from the latest Tales from the Pizza Plex book, which Dawko claims in Sister's location in the secret security room.
@NPOCrushader
@NPOCrushader 9 месяцев назад
I love these reactions and I love GT, so that's why I wish you would watch the entire video! I always get caught by surprise when the video enda and I know that half the original video remains. Like I said live the content and have a great day
@Some__Guy
@Some__Guy 9 месяцев назад
10:20 I never understood the gen 5 hate. The only thing I can think of is that you were forced to use all new pokemon until the post-game, but then there were people always whining about not enough new pokemon added in later games, or the formula getting stale. Gen 5 was by far my favorite, and I didn't even know so many people hated it until a couple years ago. Oh, and uh, I don't particularly care about FNAF lore, so I don't care if he's right or wrong as long as he's convincing and entertaining.
@Gremlin_Boi_
@Gremlin_Boi_ 4 месяца назад
im gonna be honest, the theorist of fnaf wouldn't exist today without Mat. If i had never watched MatPat's first video on fnaf, i would have never been more mindful of the series, and i also wouldn't be able to appreciate games the way i do now. Also a lot of the theorist RU-vidrs today became who they were BECAUSE of MatPat.
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 9 месяцев назад
Love your reactions to mattpatt content 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Un_Elysian
@Un_Elysian 9 месяцев назад
The reason people hate those theories is because they just don’t like the idea of those theories being true - they hate them and want to believe in their head cannon and anything else is 100% incorrect - they’re just in denial about a franchise they’re obsessed with. And I use “obsessed” because they care so damn much that they are ‘correct’ that they’ll tell creators to end themselves or just spout horrible verbal abuse at them and bully them about anything, from the theories to the creators hairstyle, not even related to the franchise itself
@aliciamarrow7062
@aliciamarrow7062 8 месяцев назад
people forget that it's just a theory. Like it's in a name. Matthew doesn't EVER say that he is objectively correct.
@itmightbevid
@itmightbevid 9 месяцев назад
11:54 From my understanding as someone who normally keeps up with the theory community but dont really do any theorizing myself for the most part, I think the books are not canon to the games and instead are a different continuity? the books are used to maybe draw connections or tie in various game elements together, but are not in the same universe as the games, same with the movie (feel free to correct me if im wrong though)
@ronansullivan1645
@ronansullivan1645 9 месяцев назад
I am in the same part of the community, and I totally agree
@catmandrinkscoffee1439
@catmandrinkscoffee1439 9 месяцев назад
Touching grass is not a meme sometimes It is the truth some people really do
@_zealos_8213
@_zealos_8213 9 месяцев назад
23:55 Aww man, this is a perfect clip for this franchise lmao!
@animefanrk2k
@animefanrk2k 9 месяцев назад
I dislike the typical "hate comment" style of comment. There is no logic to be gleamed. And my brain does not respond well to the lack of logic. It likes having statement and purpose behind said statement. I am also not a robot or AI.
@Rockalanche
@Rockalanche 9 месяцев назад
That's exactly what a robot or AI would say. -_- I see you.
@animefanrk2k
@animefanrk2k 9 месяцев назад
@@Rockalanche I think; therefore I am not a robot.
@ponquin
@ponquin 6 месяцев назад
Weeb
@Pauley-Butter
@Pauley-Butter 8 месяцев назад
He may get his theories wrong but he is really smart and has uploaded for over 10 years and in a theory, you use evidence and make a few things up.
@Rockalanche
@Rockalanche 9 месяцев назад
If you are so upset with someone's theory in a video, how about you go voice what you think is right in your own video? Maybe you can get a following too and make a career out of it.
@JoniEscar_07
@JoniEscar_07 9 месяцев назад
I wish the theory of Gregory being a robot to be wrong not because i want Mat Pat to be wrong, just because i just don't really like it but i think i would would rather it to be true so people don't rob it all over Mats face if it turns out Gregory isn't a robot. Even if Mat would show his maturity and straight up say that he was wrong, if again it turns out to be a false theory.
@bpsara
@bpsara 9 месяцев назад
I think that’s also one of the problems with the hate commenters. They don’t like the idea of a theory they dislike being confirmed (especially if it has the tiniest chance) so they jump into attack mode instead of admitting there are other possibilities outside their own theories.
@pemanilnoob
@pemanilnoob 9 месяцев назад
I don’t like most GT theories, and I feel like I’m getting roped in with assholes on the internet because I hold kinda the same opinion except I don’t harass someone because I heavily dislike something
@allengrove1864
@allengrove1864 9 месяцев назад
There's no direct confirmation of canonicity for the tales from the pizza Plex ministories
@PShrekky
@PShrekky 8 месяцев назад
Nothing that says they aren't
@SatoK47
@SatoK47 9 месяцев назад
I feel like the Death Battle channel should do something simular to this Mat Pat Video
@justflyingbi
@justflyingbi 8 месяцев назад
Heya i just found this channel, i am loving it already
@0potion
@0potion 9 месяцев назад
I really wish I could remember the creator's name but I saw somebody who did a response video to Matt Pat's video here.... And he made a really good job of contextualizing people talking crap on Matt Pat with real actual examples of what he's doing that pissing people off. And one of the big things which is actually correct is that they say something is true but they never bothered who actually show their proof. And I've heard Matt Pat be like nobody wants to watch those kinds of videos but that's actually not true most people that I know that are into this stuff actually do one of the watch iconic videos because they want to see the fucking proof.
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
Can you find the video you are talking about?
@0potion
@0potion 9 месяцев назад
@@L16htW4rr10r I'll try it might take me a while cause I watched the video right after Matt Pat made his video.
@0potion
@0potion 9 месяцев назад
@@L16htW4rr10r Never mind I already found it is a video by the creator Under_score, titles Fnaf Theory: was matpat right about fnaf theorists?...
@spinosaurhp9341
@spinosaurhp9341 9 месяцев назад
Pat, if you play FNAF: Help Wanted 2 on VR, I would cry out of joy. For the record, this game released 5 days ago, and it has a 92% positive rating on Steam.
@aarongallardo3684
@aarongallardo3684 9 месяцев назад
92%? Damn!
@SuperFlashDriver
@SuperFlashDriver 9 месяцев назад
What!?!?!? No way....I'll have to check out the walkthrough/longplay then. O__O I'll have to check it out at some point.
@Cattywattys
@Cattywattys 9 месяцев назад
I personally don’t really like matpat that much. But some people go too far. Like way too far. You can hate a guy that’s completely fair. Just don’t be rude. Still you are allowed to criticize his theories. If they have some really bad evidence (but with Fnaf I give a pass because Fnaf is Fnaf).
@Cattywattys
@Cattywattys 9 месяцев назад
But man that subnautica theory. That was more a team sea sponsor than a subnautica theory. Anyway moral: don’t be a ass
@kevinkakegames1595
@kevinkakegames1595 9 месяцев назад
Yay, more reactions to MatPat!!
@miguelmercer2377
@miguelmercer2377 9 месяцев назад
Hello
@crazgolem1347
@crazgolem1347 9 месяцев назад
Scott Cawthon can make really, really good games, but he can’t tell a story to save his life
@nebojsavelickovic5388
@nebojsavelickovic5388 9 месяцев назад
Wym, that's literally the point of the games 😂
@Firestorm520
@Firestorm520 9 месяцев назад
@@nebojsavelickovic5388one can have a great game with great mechanics and good art without having a good story. Games and storytelling go hand in hand but sometimes one is better quality then the other. That’s what the main comment is saying I believe
@Firestorm520
@Firestorm520 9 месяцев назад
With fnaf, from my subjective view the lore seem interesting however very vague. Like if most things were cleared up and confirmed it probably would make a really great story however the games by themselves barely tell the story and just hint at it
@Zahri8Alang
@Zahri8Alang 9 месяцев назад
Have any of you guys ever heard of the Silent Hills wiki fiasco about circumcision like years back? Literally an editor there basically went off the walls(prolly went vrazy like the characters in the game as well(ironic? Maybe not) and rljust spout some nonsensical takes about circumcisions on the myriads of pages in the wiki(and apparently theyre very anyi-circumcision cuz they were incessant)
@LEGACY.2001
@LEGACY.2001 9 месяцев назад
The books and the games and now even the movie are all different stories with similar events. So no the books aren’t canon but an event that happen in the book could have also happened in the games
@RatedR4Ruby
@RatedR4Ruby 9 месяцев назад
I love fnaf but boy am i glad my favorite game franchise is not mainstream(kid icarus)
@Madethisaccountjustocomment
@Madethisaccountjustocomment 9 месяцев назад
Day:13 Of asking for any kind of GuiltyGear reaction,like Character trailers, all supers and Insta-Kills, character themes, Lore/Timeline, for GuiltyGear Rev2 or Guilty Gear strIVe (for any GG strIVe video make sure it’s made after the 7th of december 2023 so Elphelt Valentine is included)
@jokuma5798
@jokuma5798 9 месяцев назад
Okay, as I expected, nothing but discrediting dissenters, great, love to see that. Am I allowed to tell my two cents or this or am I just gonna be labeled as a hater and my opinion irrelevant? Cause I don't know about the other "haters" but I don't think that "mat is stupid and his theories are stupid" and end it there. The reason I'm a "hater" (even tho I have nothing against the guy) is simply because I don't agree with his opinion and theories, some parts don't make sense in my opinion, conclusions seem to come out of nowhere sometimes and there's a bias or the sources and where's the harm in that? The thing is, yes the size of your platform impacts, when you have a platform as big as mat's you have an unspoken advantage, people are gonna value your opinion more than anyone else's and any person expressing their opinion as different no matter in what intensity are gonna be viewed as pitchfork holding maniacs. Now that we have a big creator with his "absolute perfect theory", it is considered to be the absolute truth and any other theory that differs from his is considered heresy and not valid, this killed the fun out of making theories and that's what I'm disappointed about.
@ronansullivan1645
@ronansullivan1645 9 месяцев назад
You missed some of the video, like the entire part MatPat wanted people to see, the part about why people hate his videos.
@sanjudaniel2918
@sanjudaniel2918 3 месяца назад
Anyone from 2024 And I actually never saw that video before and I hate everyone that says ‘he is wrong he did this wrong’ that to theorist nobody knows how much time it takes to make one theory Joan from fuffnaf posts theories every 2-3 months and game theory before his retirement posted every week like you got a appreciate that and think if you were the person who made the theory besides matpat or Joan you would upload every 5-7 months so fuck All those guys
@zimattack9994
@zimattack9994 9 месяцев назад
You should whatch good idea bad idea 8 hour fnaf timeline I feel it actually does a better job than Matt pats yes he does call out Matt in it but it calling out how dream theory was never right and that the fnaf community has this real problem of every thing being a clue
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
But dream theory from what I heard is actually right and that's why Scott created Sister Location so he can change the ending
@evanbrooks1926
@evanbrooks1926 9 месяцев назад
The idea of documenting everything you hate about a RU-vidr is so weird. Like, rantgrumps is a subreddit all about how much people hate the game grumps and it always has this conspiracy theory that Arin’s a horrible monster and that Dans a complete idiot who doesn’t know what’s going on. Like just don’t watch game grumps it’s not that hard.
@twilighttricksterXXI
@twilighttricksterXXI 9 месяцев назад
Day 32 of asking for Honkai Impact animations and version PVs reaction
@ThePretzelPrince
@ThePretzelPrince 9 месяцев назад
I know people love to hate on Mat, and i gotta admit, i get sucked into that kinda mindset myself and i don't really know why. At the end of the day, i don't hate the guy, i just don't like his content.
@Somewahoo
@Somewahoo 9 месяцев назад
I agree that Matpat is getting unfiar hate way too much but there're some real problems here. First, Matpat DID show misinformation to viewers who doesn't read books. I mean, theorizing should be open and fun, but the proof you're showing should be based on objective material. Also, he didn't even get to the counterparts of his theory that people genuinely debate about. He just called some dumbest comments out and that was it. He made the same mistakes that his haters do. I respect fnaf theorists even though there might be some things that I don't agree. That's what everyone should do. It's so sad that it's seem like he missed actual criticism because it's clouded by bunch of idiots
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
I’m so glad I’m not the only one trying to put this out there
@Sacron1143
@Sacron1143 9 месяцев назад
I mean, the video is meant to adress the haters, not the ones who are contributing to the community via debate. He's even made videos reacting to other youtuber's theories and if he sees a good one on his subreddit he'll even make it into a video and giving credit to it. The video is mostly addressing the unfair criticism, hypocritical behavior and shallow arguments that plague his and other's channels and will continue to do so, because those kind of people will always exist.
@mochoman312games2
@mochoman312games2 9 месяцев назад
Can you say what the misinformation is because I've seen people discussing about it and they seem just as dumb as you think mat sounds
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
In the end of the day, even if you especificaly make good points, the overealming majority have bad arguments, so it is very common to lump all critizism together, so you will be mostly seen as just like the others. A 12 year old that plays fortenite, not saying that you are one, of course
@MrShadic140
@MrShadic140 9 месяцев назад
​@@Sacron1143this. The video is not about the people actively giving criticism and giving counter arguments or their own theories/ conclusions. Its about the people that go "NOOOO YOUR WRONG I HATE THIS VIDEO THIS SHOULDN'T BE CANNON" (even tho FNAF has barely any cannon), and people that just will directly hate on any new theory/video from matpat or others theorizers. Like when i first heard the gregbot theory i was like "ok, maybe we will come to a new conclusion later on", and ever since then when a new theory comes out all i can think is "can't wait for people to get mad at matpat for making a theory and then 5 months from now take it as full 100% cannon material.."
@ninacochrane569
@ninacochrane569 9 месяцев назад
My problem with Game Theory & ect, is people site it as lore for a franchise, even when he gets things wrong! Like, I get that's not his fault, but I wish he'd do a little more to address when he *does* get something wrong. And I don't mean with FNAF, I don't know jack about FNAF, but he's stated factually wrong things in the set-ups of theories before, and *that's* where the problems lie. Not in making a theory, but in stating facts about things and spinning a theory off it.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
Theories aren't really meant to be corrected afterwards, unless they play into another theorie. Which he normaly does, when it happens. You don't go back and correct your school presentations and present them to the class again when you got something wrong, or do you? And besides, it's also simply not managable timewise and with the entire concept of theories. Theories are nothing more than thought experiments, eather to try and fill in blank spots, or to twist the narrative into a "what if". If one wanted to correct every mistake in a "what if" theory, the wouldn't be able to get out much content, becouse they would constantly be stuck correcting themself and what is basically a "creative writing" exercise. For real, sometimes I think people don't know what theories are....
@AlexDayz
@AlexDayz 9 месяцев назад
If you want to see him admit he’s wrong on theories just look at any of his Star Wars or Marvel ones on Film Theory. In almost all of them he makes a theory, the movie released, and in the next video he admits he was wrong, and the cycle repeats. It’s honestly kinda insane though since a lot of the time his theories on those franchises tend to be better than the films themselves, at least in my opinion
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
@RylishZaliou12 acurate. Thank you for that add on. These however aren't the types of theories this video is about. The video was verry specifically about narrative driven theories meant to fill in blanks in fictional works. And besides, these add ons do not refute my previous claim. I don't see paleontologists going out and apologizing for aparantly getting the Spinosaurus wrong in their theories each year. Neather do I see astreologists apologizing for books beeing outdated since they anounced Pluto was no longer a planet.
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
​@@AlexDayzMe with Mattpat Frozen theory about the prince
@ninacochrane569
@ninacochrane569 9 месяцев назад
@@aniflowers1998 I don't care about theories being right or wrong, I care about the establishing details, the things he presents as facts before any what-ifs, that are completely and *obviously* wrong. The conclusion can be as wrong as he likes, but when you lie about the basics? I get upset.
@lucygirl1111
@lucygirl1111 9 месяцев назад
just a question during the latest trash taste episode they mentioned gamer subs tea being a thing aswell
@WWTWW
@WWTWW 9 месяцев назад
I think part of the reason why MatPat got heavily criticized in his more recent theories is due to him not clarifying information to avoid confusion. I think one time he said something like "[name of character], the book's parallel for Henry...", which was an incorrect statement. MatPat, at least at that point in time, believed that the Tales from the Pizzaplex books were simply parallels for the game, & he believed that a certain character was a parallel for Henry. However, those books have never been concretely confirmed to be either in the game timeline or just parallels, so he, perhaps unintentionally, made his personal opinion into a factual statement (which would be incorrect due to not having been confirmed yet). I think that is why people were mad at him. If you didn't read the books, or at least watch someone else's video explaining the story, you would have just believed that the book showed this character to be a parallel for Henry, all because MatPat didn't clarify his comments. Thus, you would have incorrectly believed something that is unconfirmed & just a personal opinion of MatPat's to be a factual thing. Anyways, that's my attempt at explaining why people tend to hate MatPat's more current theories. That & the fact that the debate about if the newest books are in the game timeline or not are still ongoing to the point where you just wish Scott would clarify it a little bit, though he usually tends to be pretty vague about how/if the books connect to the games. (Except for the first book series, which he more or less flat out said that it was set in a different setting/timeline to the games.)
@cyberrainofficial5965
@cyberrainofficial5965 9 месяцев назад
But it very clearly is a PARALLEL for Henry. That's how the books have been used since literally the first novels and is still how they are used today
@WWTWW
@WWTWW 9 месяцев назад
@@cyberrainofficial5965 The problem isn't that it's supposed to be a parallel. The problem is that he described it as being a factual statement when the story itself did not make any mentions to Henry or other past characters. Basically, what I'm saying is that it wasn't very good as a recap of information on the factual events in that particular story. I don't have a problem with it being a parallel. MatPat just needs to be more clear when he's describing events that happened in the story and to differentiate it from the theory portion of the video. Yes, I am aware that we've been using information from the books since the first one released to help us solve the story. However, Scott specifically said about the first book to not use it to try to solve the game lore. He encouraged that type of stuff from Fazbear Frights onward. I do believe, however, that information from those first books can be used (such as character's names, motivations, personalities, & level of technology that exists in the universe of FNAF). I'm just saying that the first books are not meant to be parallels like Fazbear Frights was.
@luderezeus
@luderezeus 9 месяцев назад
This needs to be said, Mats theories are not meant for someone that doesn’t have a degree of understanding of fnaf lore. If people watching don’t know were the Henry parallel is coming from, they shouldn’t be watching the video period. His videos are made for other THEORISTS not newbies to the franchise. The whole “his word being taken as fact” is such a projection, I’ve seen many newcomers being fully able to understand that Mats word isn’t law.
@AlexCumbee-qj2ec
@AlexCumbee-qj2ec 7 месяцев назад
THE BOOKS ARE NO A PART OF THE STORY FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME
@grantarmstrong2968
@grantarmstrong2968 9 месяцев назад
I love how Matpat essentially made an entire video to say: I’m not wrong y’all’s personalities are wrong
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
I see it as: "At least I try to solve it. Do you guys even try to solve it or are you just going to shoot down the theories you don't like?"
@KenBladehart
@KenBladehart 9 месяцев назад
The whole video is just him deflecting criticism, not addressing them
@Firestorm520
@Firestorm520 9 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@KenBladehartyeah cause the purpose I don’t believe wasn’t to address the criticism it’s to point out how, the lore of fnaf is convoluted, how he’s trying his best to make sense of it and how the people just spitting on theories aren’t trying to understand or counter argue, they are just going to shoot down and ignore any theories they disagree with, which isn’t a mature thing to do. He’s trying to tell people to be more open mind to these theories and help and join in. Point out what they notice and see if they can contribute to the fandom on what the lore is
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
@@L16htW4rr10rmore accurate
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
My issue with matpat is the fact that theories are being built on misunderstandings. Like the idea that Gregory is a robot made by Afton misses the whole point in the books that Afton was unable to make the human robots himself because he couldn’t give them the life that Henry gave them
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
Put wasn't that only in the first series of books? Aren't those not really cannon anymore
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
@@luckluca8982 I’m not the one that keeps using them as evidence in theories. That’s people like matpat and Fuhnaff
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
@@pokestyn He doesn't say they are cannon, but pieces can be used for a larger picture. The first series shouldn't be taken as face value just some ideas like the soundwaves
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
Afton also didn't made Gregory, he was long dead before that. He never said who built Gregory, but he does theorize it could be Afton's wife
@HellGaymer
@HellGaymer 9 месяцев назад
WHY WILL YOU NOT WATCH THE FULL VIDEO IN YOUR REACTION VIDS. This drives me fucking angry because, what's the point of a REACTION VIDEO if you're going to not watch all of it.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
It's called transvormative content. You cut out the things that you can't add anything to, so that you don't end up just stealing someone elses video.
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
@@aniflowers1998lol
@mikeclark7026
@mikeclark7026 9 месяцев назад
Can we just say, that it doesn’t matter if you are right or wrong, BOTH SIDES are losers…. That’s why I hate these theories.
@PenguinWithTheGun
@PenguinWithTheGun 9 месяцев назад
For some reason people dont notice that Matpat literally calls anyone who hates on his theory dumb while anyone who supports him smart.
@aidenevans1832
@aidenevans1832 9 месяцев назад
3:34 21:15 22:16 The point he is trying to make is that he dose not care if you like or dislike the theory, just don't be mean. you are laterally one of the people he made this video for.
@PenguinWithTheGun
@PenguinWithTheGun 9 месяцев назад
​@@aidenevans1832 2 things 1. Grammar and 2. My point is the part of the video not shown on this reaction where MatPat says his haters are S type. In the terms of personality traits S stands for sensory meaning you are more likely to take things at face value. He calls his fans N type which stands for intuition meaning to read between the lines and think more critically. Also he says that the people hating on him and his fans dont understand his theories.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
​@@PenguinWithTheGunbeeing an S doesn't make you stupid though, and neather does N make you smart. They are just personality types that might or might not, depending on how much one believes in it, define how you react/respond to certain things. In this case, the "thing" is theories trying to piece together a franchises lore that is held together by gum and string. He never says all his haters are "stupid", as far as I can recall (feel free to provide a time stamp to correct me). Worst thing he calls them is "close minded" or "stuborn", with "insensitive" and "out if touch" as secound place, and all four of those are A) implied, and B) technically not wrong, since haters aren't those that give valid critic, but those that, well, hate. Hell, he even encourages them to stop hating and turn their hate into calid critic to join the theorists and help solve this trash fire of a story! If anything that uust shows that he thinks the haters are smart enough to be really helpfull, if only they applied their energy more positively instead of hating xD
@PenguinWithTheGun
@PenguinWithTheGun 9 месяцев назад
@@aniflowers1998 2 things 1. Reread your comment before posting it, and 2. In my original comment, me saying that he calls his haters dumb was exaggerated for a joke. However, in my reply to @aidenevans1833 my point was that in his video he says that his haters are lashing out at him since they don't understand the theories he makes. This can be misconstrued as him calling his haters "close minded or stubborn" as you put it however anyone with half a brain could tell you that someone "not understanding you ideas" usually means that they are dumber then you.
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
@@PenguinWithTheGun 1. English isn't my first language and I suffer from dyslexia. Even re-re-reading my comments wouldn't fix my spelling mistakes. But thanks for beeing a dush about peoples spelling. 2. That's a matter of interpretation, if you ask me. But even if we asume your interpretation is the correct wrong, it's still kinda true. The haters sure as hell act like they aren't the smartest, and refuse to understand the things Mat Pat and other FNAF theorists put out. All they do is blindly point the finger and tell people to off themselfs becouse they don't like the concept of an idea. The hate comments he pulled up in the videos where some of the nicer ones, there are way worse ones out there.
@crowcoregames1785
@crowcoregames1785 9 месяцев назад
i don't know i think its because he donated to autism speaks but *shrug*
@quintonwinton7210
@quintonwinton7210 9 месяцев назад
He didnt know how bad they were at the time and apologised for it
@crowcoregames1785
@crowcoregames1785 9 месяцев назад
@@quintonwinton7210 he never apologized for ir
@cyl_genderfluid-furry
@cyl_genderfluid-furry 9 месяцев назад
I thought this would be about why people like me only like his deep dives and little else due to the shilling. It *has* gotten to the point of scripts with the inconsistencies of Cinemasins afew years ago, afew years ago. This is an insult by the way. I think it's a thing with channels becoming companies and trying to save as much face as possible by never really owning up or something like that. I'm not even talking about the FNaF stuff because as much as I'm already invested in the lore and fandom, I don't care all that much about the theories for it. Some seem good, some seem like they may be missing *some* information, but Matpat tends to go contrarian on basic stuff and also not care to look at the actual clips of what he's pulling stuff from, as noted by the stuff he's pulling from. Kyle Hill does actually do deep dives inplace of theories, for a theory channel, which makes it bearable, because he doesn't need to find out why it's a specific predetermined conclusion, but just explain how certain things would realistically work. And why Saitama solos DBZ, Ez. I mean, I *PERSONALLY* think Goku in Mastered Ultra Instinct *could* land blows and deal (atleast mild or noticeable) damage (resembling marks or dust) but you have to admit that Whis looks rather weak by comparison, atleast for what we've been shown of Whis. Assuming the covers are accurate depictions of Saitama's strength. Based on the gravity of a black hole thing in the first season, I think it's safe to say it is though. I really wanna see them fight. And I really wanna see Saitama and Beerus making out. That latter one is at minimal as objectively a good idea as many of Matpat's theories BTdubs. Contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian, even when it's contradictory. Regardless I still want to see it.
@MendedPearl
@MendedPearl 9 месяцев назад
i'm just not a fan of mat pat cause he thought it was good to make an attack helicopter joke when it was already well known it was a dog whistle in one of his videos then just say "oh well people submitted it i had to say it"
@fuy1648
@fuy1648 9 месяцев назад
Furry pfp checks out
@Shock_Yang
@Shock_Yang 9 месяцев назад
Why not mention that he donated to Autism Speaks???
@HornAndHaloWrestling
@HornAndHaloWrestling 9 месяцев назад
I'm am a part of the LGBTQ+ community and that joke was fucking hilarious
@aniflowers1998
@aniflowers1998 9 месяцев назад
​@@Shock_Yangconsidering that charity raised ofer 60million dollar, I doubt he was the only one that donated to it. I'm even gona be so vold and say he probably wasn't the only "big name" to donate to it eather. Besides, kind of a shitty argument to bash someone for donatong to charity to help people, just becouse said charity turned out to be kknd of shitty. That's like bashing someone for giving money to a homeless person, just becouse said homeless person later bashed someones brain in with a bottle they bought from said money.
@AlexDayz
@AlexDayz 9 месяцев назад
Yea, let’s just ignore all context surrounding it where it’s clear he’s making fun of the people being transphobic
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 9 месяцев назад
I hate his theories because they 1:just capitalize on the most popular trend, 2:often are poorly researched trash thrown out for a quick cash grab, and 3:often make no sense, and 4: in some cases the answer is just outright stated in the game itself.
@jonathangoodwin5609
@jonathangoodwin5609 9 месяцев назад
His fnaf theories are fine, but some of the others are just blatantly ridiculous.
@Cattywattys
@Cattywattys 9 месяцев назад
The only one I can think of that isn’t Fnaf I don’t agree with was the subnautica theory he did
@AlexDayz
@AlexDayz 9 месяцев назад
Wait till you learn almost every video on RU-vid is to capitalize on the most popular trend 🤯
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
@@AlexDayzthat would require for the commenter to critically think
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
22:26 actually most of the people saying this to matpat have actual sources and arguments.
@pokestyn
@pokestyn 9 месяцев назад
Oh boy it’s the theory where matpat attempts to dismiss valid criticism by focusing on The overblown hate and not the actual valid points brought up
@quintonwinton7210
@quintonwinton7210 9 месяцев назад
Mate the point of the video is about the haters, he is fine with critisism just not being rude about
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
Imagine missing the actual point of the video.
@KenBladehart
@KenBladehart 9 месяцев назад
Heres one thing that many people glossed over: MatPat tries way to fuckin hard to make a connection of random bullshits and then shove it down your throat Honestly, really annoying. Theory are supposed to be possible outcomes, not one nonsense answer
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
You don't have to agree with him though. At least he tried to solve the lore even if he was using bad evidence.
@luderezeus
@luderezeus 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, his most recent theory suggesting Cassie’s dad was Bonnie bro, and that we will be playing as him in help wanted 2 was so incorrect and built on nothing😂… …wait…🫢
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
How is that different from other RU-vidrs also making up random shit for their Fnaf theories
@mendenhall0239
@mendenhall0239 9 месяцев назад
I just don't like matpat because I think he's kind of a jerk. That's it, really.
@luckluca8982
@luckluca8982 9 месяцев назад
Why so?
@quintonwinton7210
@quintonwinton7210 9 месяцев назад
No he isnt?
@L16htW4rr10r
@L16htW4rr10r 9 месяцев назад
Why do you think he is a jerk? Serious question.
@luderezeus
@luderezeus 9 месяцев назад
You can have an opinion, doesn’t mean it isn’t ass lol😂
@neovagras980
@neovagras980 9 месяцев назад
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