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Paul George Opens up About The Clippers, Battling LeBron's Heat, Lance Stephenson Stories & More 

JJ Redick
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We are thrilled to share this amazing conversation with our guest, Los Angeles Clippers star, Paul George. There is so much discussed on this episode and we really appreciate his willingness to be open and candid about a lot of things. Topics include: His take on Nikola Jokic and what makes him such a dominant force, The Clippers being the 'poster-child' for the NBA's load management issue and why blaming it all on the players is wrong, trying to develop a rhythm with The Clippers team given how little the team has actually played together, how much he loves playing with Kawhi Leonard and the confidence he brings to a team, why Paul George feels like he was overlooked in high school, his early days as an Indiana Pacers and how he earned the trust to lead that team, how he improved his game in Indy, reflecting on that 3-4 year stretch where The Pacers with Roy Hibbert, David West, George Hill were a legit threat in the Eastern Conference, how they feel that Pacers team changed the modern NBA, Paul shares his best Lance Stephenson stories, the moment Paul George burst into superstardom by blowing by LeBron James and The Miami Heat, describing the challenge of beating LeBron and The Heatles in a 4-game series and how putting Chris Bosh at the 5 spot changed everything that series, his time with Russell Westbrook on The Oklahoma City Thunder and how Paul came to his own conclusion that he could likely not be the best player on a Championship team after his injury, the mental toll it took for PG to come back from that injury and so much more.
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Комментарии : 501   
@JJRedick
@JJRedick Год назад
Thanks to everyone who watches and engages with our content. It means the world to us. Enjoy PG!
@Michael-ex6dg
@Michael-ex6dg Год назад
JJ you need your own prime time tv show. You’re better than everybody talking basketball
@jianyang9033
@jianyang9033 Год назад
Fore sure we really enjoy! When u guys talk to Kwahi ??
@joncaples2624
@joncaples2624 Год назад
Get Luke kennard next!
@jihadijohn9408
@jihadijohn9408 Год назад
U need to get LeMickey on the podcast
@nezarethcarrasco7418
@nezarethcarrasco7418 Год назад
Love your stuff JJ and tommys ability to answer any question with a question. I would love MPJ or a Jamal Murray feature episode being that they themselves have overcome some pretty gnarly injuries.
@jaysontatum000
@jaysontatum000 Год назад
unbelievable timing jj I was about to eat
@dmitrykoveshnikov
@dmitrykoveshnikov Год назад
Same thing my man, my microwave is heating up right now lol
@victortorres6574
@victortorres6574 Год назад
@@jrtmendoza who doesn’t lol
@fabiandre2414
@fabiandre2414 Год назад
same bro
@crookedbraincrookedbrain9874
I m watching for lunch
@crookedbraincrookedbrain9874
From italy lol
@estevatopanchovillacruz9969
I love Paul Georges game. It's so smooth yet powerful when he needs to be. Amazing handles at his size. What I love about his handles is that they are not superfluous they have intent. Every dribble, every hesitation is just a means to a bucket. Love watching this guy play.
@bodesokera4959
@bodesokera4959 Год назад
Paul George has potential to be the top 5 players in the nab right now but the inconsistency spoils it
@thatfatguy7591
@thatfatguy7591 Год назад
PG13 is a killer in the playoffs. People forget this man took the 4th seed Clippers to the WCF in the 2021 playoffs without Kawhi Leonard.
@reliczurge
@reliczurge Год назад
@@thatfatguy7591bro had to win 1 more game to get to the wcf.
@eliasgomez5230
@eliasgomez5230 Год назад
@@reliczurge it was 2 games. He balled out game 5 in Utah then game 6 back in LA was the Terrance Mann game. And to his credit, PG played very good in the WCF. Just missed some clutch free throws.
@TJ-qn3cm
@TJ-qn3cm Год назад
@@thatfatguy7591 honestly you guys would’ve done better against the Bucks than the Suns. And I live in Phx and love the Suns
@andrewdulenchuk4942
@andrewdulenchuk4942 Год назад
Huge respect for the Thinking Basketball shoutout in the intro! It is an incredible and perhaps THE BEST basketball analysis channel.
@iamthinuk4793
@iamthinuk4793 Год назад
i called a play that they showed in a video in my hs game my coach gave me a lotta props lol
@JJRedick
@JJRedick Год назад
Great channel!
@YangiTheCat
@YangiTheCat Год назад
Amazing channel for high-level analysis of basketball throughout it's eras
@rickharrison1737
@rickharrison1737 Год назад
@@JJRedick U gotta collab with Ben
@blueb4ryz951
@blueb4ryz951 Год назад
@@rickharrison1737 agreed
@gothbossbaby
@gothbossbaby Год назад
I love PG. Grew up a Pacers fan and he was the reason why I really got heavily into bball.
@sangun123
@sangun123 Год назад
Didn’t grow up as a pacer fan but his run with Stephenson and Hibbert is what got me into watch the NBA, that was a magical season
@somethingcreative7027
@somethingcreative7027 Год назад
same for me, ill always root for him
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop Год назад
God damn I’m old. Love PG too and got to see him play hundreds of times live center court row 9-11, but those seats started in 87-88 Reggie’s Miller rookie year when I was in 1st grade!
@MasenkOG
@MasenkOG Год назад
Same I’m a lifetime Heat fan but Reggie was one of my favorites as a kid so I kinda like seeing the Pacers do well (except against us) Jermaine O’Neal, Granger, and PG became some of my favorite players
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Год назад
Pandemic P
@podcastpshow
@podcastpshow Год назад
Great episode! PG is a natural, looks ready to host his own podcast 😉
@jairo392
@jairo392 Год назад
Jj gives a good interview. Pg13 is a good dude man. Let's go clippers for life.
@devilpistons1269
@devilpistons1269 4 дня назад
Would love to see Redick on pg13's show
@Henry-kv7zl
@Henry-kv7zl Год назад
TOMMY! Everytime you speak, which is very selectively, you deliver the perfect question! I'm just under halfway through, and that was a fantastic question about chemistry on playoff teams. Bravo
@theatlanticfiles
@theatlanticfiles Год назад
Huge respect for PG! He's been on a lot of good teams and that Pacers team was incredibly fun to watch. Him admitting that he doesn't have to be the #1 guy is a very mature thing to admit that a lot of people at the same caliber would probably never say
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 Год назад
I know it's probably incredibly difficult to get people in the same room, HOWEVER.... Getting people all in the same room really does enhance the show. It changes the dynamic, makes it feel more personal and less of an interview.
@matthewr920
@matthewr920 Год назад
Thank you for your decade + of dedication to the league PG13! Your impact on the game has been felt and helped define a generation of basketball play. Continue to write that legacy.
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Год назад
Pandemic P
@marioflaco
@marioflaco Год назад
Absolutely awesome hearing from active players about their current season and even from their past seasons 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽 awesome podcast JJ!
@quisejeter1470
@quisejeter1470 Год назад
I can’t believe JJ shouted out ‘Thinking Basketball’. I love that channel and their basketball breakdowns
@h3nriqu33
@h3nriqu33 Год назад
interview starts at 13:35
@ryanvince3869
@ryanvince3869 Год назад
bless you sir
@Mikeymike301
@Mikeymike301 Год назад
Thank youuuuuuu
@gbone1812
@gbone1812 Год назад
U our hero
@benroethlisberger2567
@benroethlisberger2567 Год назад
JJ really needs to add time stamps lol
@2doorEli
@2doorEli Год назад
You legend
@evingrindle1929
@evingrindle1929 Год назад
I actually forget that PG was elite all the way back in ‘13. He’s been honestly way better since his injury, so good that I forgot that he’s been dominant for so long
@joeknapp9162
@joeknapp9162 Год назад
Didn’t know PG was such a thoughtful, humble dude. Don’t know if I woulda watched his podcast beforehand but I’m looking forward to it now. I hope it’s like All the Smoke where he doesn’t have ti be the interviewer all the time but will have open discussion with people that just have mutual interest in having a conversation about basketball and whatever his other personal interests are too. Very cool.
@antoniobautista6718
@antoniobautista6718 Год назад
Paul George really is just an all-around, versatile player wing that dominates on court; and this podcast also showed how much of an eloquent, thoughtful, and all-around cool guy he off the court. Our man truly is balanced and silky smooth in all aspects of life ❤️🔥
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Год назад
Pandemic P
@NicholasTre_
@NicholasTre_ Год назад
Been a life long clipper fan and pg is hands down one of my players in the league. I loved this interview.
@arinjoys
@arinjoys Год назад
It's really great that you shouted out Thinking Basketball. I'm a fan of their channel and thoroughly enjoy their content. I was actually thinking what it would be like if you were invited as a guest on their podcast. That would be some incredibly high level basketball talk! Hope it happens🤞🏼
@zackarytalley552
@zackarytalley552 Год назад
I love PG man he is a monster he gets to much hate he is one of the best everyone's standards are LeBron and Jordan missing out on all of the other great talent one love brodies
@hurricanes___6982
@hurricanes___6982 Год назад
Man imagine PG vs T-Mac
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 Год назад
Pandemic P
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
​@@hurricanes___6982 T-Mac takes it. George is great but McGrady's peak in '03 was MVP level and he was playing in a very different league (pre-2005 rules).
@tonyray8005
@tonyray8005 Год назад
PG and Tmac are very similar, both are smooth, both have a good IQ, both are Clutch, Tmac a better scorer and PG a better Defender, but there footwork and shot difficulty making are real similar and there both athletic, both deal with major career injuries.
@JakerMayfield
@JakerMayfield Год назад
Great stuff as always JJ & Tommy, really enjoyed this pod with PG. One of my favorite episodes so far. Keep up the amazing work guys!
@Imparte
@Imparte Год назад
Thanks JJ for shouting out ThinkingBasketball, their analyses are awesome!
@hmohngcheelee7549
@hmohngcheelee7549 Год назад
I love thinking basketball, thank you for giving them a shout out y’all!
@dashhowell4949
@dashhowell4949 Год назад
PG is so underrated! Thanks for having him on your show guys!
@ericsmith9835
@ericsmith9835 Год назад
I Appreciate Paul's honesty, It's hard carrying a franchise. So many things has to go right.
@brendanhunter389
@brendanhunter389 Год назад
One of my favourite players. Seriously so underrated
@callmekobean2
@callmekobean2 2 месяца назад
We need paul George part 2
@tbone5816
@tbone5816 Год назад
GREAT CHAT WITH PG! Awesome to hear his voice on real stuff!
@chel7236
@chel7236 Год назад
Respect for his truthfulness🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@loganwagler7997
@loganwagler7997 Год назад
Just finished an overnight shift but i gotta stay up for this, shoutout to tommy and JJ for bringing the quality that paid networks cant match
@angenorfigaro5092
@angenorfigaro5092 Год назад
Working my overnight rn my boy on the last stretch, this is perfect bless JJ and the Caucasian
@felix3033
@felix3033 Год назад
Night owl life
@loganwagler7997
@loganwagler7997 Год назад
@@angenorfigaro5092 JJ really is the fairest shade of darkskin ive ever seen, makes tommy look LED levels of honky
@stephena11
@stephena11 Год назад
one of my favorite players of all time PG is so tuff!! super excited for this
@DJ-ys9pv
@DJ-ys9pv Год назад
Not the first time Thinking Basketball has been referenced in some of my favorite podcast. Jason Timpf is one of my favorite analyst as well and he’s mentioned Thinking Basketball more than once. Love it.
@ashwinvenkat950
@ashwinvenkat950 Год назад
I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast, as I do every single week. PG is just such a humble and down to earth guy,. Absolutely loved listening to his perspective; you guys do such a great job in getting people to be so transparent and candid when talking about their past. The only thing I wish you'd asked PG more about is Russell Westbrook, given his importance to PG's best season in OKC, how he left him to go to LA and then finally vouching for him to be signed by the Clippers. Nonetheless, immensely enjoyed this podcast. :)
@MaXLebel
@MaXLebel Год назад
Was surprised to hear the shoutout to Ben Tayloy. Having followed his work for a few years was always surprised to see how little recognition he gets from the media so I'm happy to see his strides in this respect. And of course it's JJ the one shouting him, just another proof on how this man is bridging the old and "new" sports media. What you guys do is fundamental to the sportd growth so shoutout to you guys, keep rockin'
@compactdisk2753
@compactdisk2753 Год назад
It was great to listen Paul "You Know" George talk.
@rohanpolicherla3843
@rohanpolicherla3843 Год назад
Wow, definitely one of the best gets, looking forward to this one
@adamstewart247
@adamstewart247 Год назад
I liked PG before but man after hearing this...crazy respect. He's the real deal
@reecewilliams8349
@reecewilliams8349 Год назад
Mad respect for the shout out to Big Al Jefferson. Dude was an absolute monster. Little known fact but he avg 42 ppg 18rpg like 6apg and 7 or 8 bpg in high school. When he became a 25 and 10 guy in the league I was not surprised.
@thee_legendary1
@thee_legendary1 Год назад
First, big fan of the show y’all alway deliver great interviews.
@Jetz24Waffles
@Jetz24Waffles Год назад
Big fan of PG ALL RESPECT
@mylesorina826
@mylesorina826 Год назад
Thanks JJ for awesome pod
@micahluv2135
@micahluv2135 Год назад
From the Palmdale area and it’s so cool to see such a successful player come from there!
@MohamedAhmed-tt2nz
@MohamedAhmed-tt2nz Год назад
PG13 lets go man, my fav player !!
@nathanchristensen716
@nathanchristensen716 Год назад
Love the shoutout for thinking basketball, amazing channel for basketball junkies
@aramisjones4804
@aramisjones4804 Год назад
Man pg 13 is one of my faves next to Brandon Ingram and kawhi, thanks for getting him on the show JJ.
@ishetrying
@ishetrying Год назад
I'm very impressed by his self-awareness and ability to set ego aside. That's so rare.
@masonmurphy523
@masonmurphy523 Год назад
This may be the best episode of all time. Can’t wait for PG’s pod
@jalenjonesqb10
@jalenjonesqb10 Год назад
Loving your impact & content on the game right now JJ. Would love to hear your thoughts on how they’ve looked on this current win streak their on!
@josephmatthews7698
@josephmatthews7698 11 месяцев назад
Great job editor. We all know you're the real brains behind the operation.
@cameronking1036
@cameronking1036 Год назад
This pod scratches my NBA & stats itch perfectly
@21Alansi
@21Alansi Год назад
This is a great mentality from a pro athlete. I just became a fan. I want to apply this in my daily life. I might not have been blessed with godlike talent but this makes me wanna do better.
@fremason91
@fremason91 Год назад
Great interview
@abobbers
@abobbers Год назад
Great point on load management & practice hard
@Dame56643
@Dame56643 Год назад
I remember the battles in the playoffs PG and Bron had from like 2013-2017 some of the most memorable moments of the 2010s
@taahasiddiqui1071
@taahasiddiqui1071 Год назад
King George vs King James I remember those, that pacers team was awesome, David West was my favorite player during that era.
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
2013 and 2014. LeBron was in Cleveland again by 2015.
@Dame56643
@Dame56643 Год назад
@@nocturne311 they played in the playoffs in 2017
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
@@Dame56643 I forgot about that one. Wasn't really a series though.
@Dame56643
@Dame56643 Год назад
@@taahasiddiqui1071 Roy hibberet and George Hill were great too
@dulogmaz
@dulogmaz Год назад
The only three Basketball channels I regularly watch... Thinking basketball, The Volume with Draymond and Old Man and the Three.
@snackmiester22
@snackmiester22 Год назад
Shout out to PG and JJ episode was flames 🔥 🔥🔥🔥💯
@Infinityflow0
@Infinityflow0 Год назад
Loved the shoutout to Ben Taylor. He is masturful at breaking down the game ,and it's great to see even pros are praising the analysis.
@stefanofattimiei2161
@stefanofattimiei2161 Год назад
Great episode, one of the best to me; very raw and honest expecially the last part; great job!
@jaysoncam2680
@jaysoncam2680 Год назад
Yesssss Paul George my favorite 🔥
@lmaoo6339
@lmaoo6339 Год назад
PG is the reason I fell in love with basketball, my first 2k game was 2k17!!! PG was the cover
@EyeTrustMe
@EyeTrustMe Год назад
Glad to see everyone giving PG his flowers NOW. Still remember all of the hate he used to get when he was on OKC. I understand he didn’t take accountability on certain things during those playoff runs, but dude is a straight hooper.
@cuisonte
@cuisonte Год назад
Wow. He feels "old". The selfawareness. I like this guy.
@robertobelleri3523
@robertobelleri3523 Год назад
Great episode
@thomasveleba9261
@thomasveleba9261 Год назад
Great episode JJ! I absolutely love tuning in whenever you drop a new pod. Can we get Dinwiddie on the pod?
@chel7236
@chel7236 Год назад
💯💯💯💯💯. I can relate. As I'm not a social media person...I write all my thoughts and stories of my own paper and my own pen. As I will know it's about my truth. Not of what others speculate,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@dulogmaz
@dulogmaz Год назад
I honestly haven't heard of Ben before Thinking Basketball, but what he does on the channel seems to be the best basketball analysis in the world. It'd be amazing if you do a collab with him!
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 Год назад
Hoops Tonight better.
@mesaifulmore3250
@mesaifulmore3250 Год назад
shoutout to “thinking basketball” glad JJ giving bro recognition
@ericbanizaman6280
@ericbanizaman6280 Год назад
😊😊😊 43:49 43:49 43:49 😊😊😊😊 44:36
@samikhalifa6021
@samikhalifa6021 Год назад
PG seems like such a genuine dude
@theshawshankinception1220
@theshawshankinception1220 Год назад
Jeremy Sochan would be an amazing guest, I just know it! Book him guys!
@Bezzle.
@Bezzle. Год назад
I do t know if you read comments, but I’d love to see a POD with Nekias Duncan. He’s not a current or former player, but he’s got a basketball mind that would blend extremely well with this shows flow and content
@marshallgray645
@marshallgray645 Год назад
Paul is a cool dude, I liked his takes and hearing from him. A bigger fan now after this pod
@4est82
@4est82 Год назад
Podcasts are great because they allow athletes to go at their pace while also not including the lame narratives reporters push. I’m glad athletes can find a way to speak on what they find is important about the game rather than answering stupid questions that cause them to shut down and seem annoyed.
@anthonyleone2927
@anthonyleone2927 Год назад
I gained so much more respect for PG after this interview
@Suave_TheArtKartel
@Suave_TheArtKartel Год назад
Loved this candid interview!! My favorite players PG and Klaw for years Lets go #ClipperNation
@diegochristmon4377
@diegochristmon4377 Год назад
JJ please make these videos just the interview and post this week’s basketball comments as a separate video I would most definitely watch both but came here for interview
@israelreyes6864
@israelreyes6864 Год назад
PG really like that fr handles nasty as hell for his size, smooth shoot from the 3 from the 2 and can get to the basket also was a really good defender in his prime. I miss him on my OKC team.
@mitchellbaenz
@mitchellbaenz Год назад
Paul George stories about lance had me rolling
@oliveranthis9069
@oliveranthis9069 Год назад
PG talking about Lance is epic! Loving Lance IS being a modern day Pacer fan.
@GODIAM-sy9qb
@GODIAM-sy9qb Год назад
Yess - thank you, I'm not crazy! Kawhi is the closest to MJ right next to Kobe. Getting to his spots, shooting - a lot of MJ vibes there.
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
He's like a combination of Jordan and Pippen with a dash of Dr. J due to those Freddy Krueger sized hands of his.
@ajhenderson370
@ajhenderson370 Год назад
We could call him the closest thing to Kobe I’m the mid range. But he seems like a monster in his own right. He’s much bigger than those two guys too
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
@@ajhenderson370 You would be surprised. He's taller than Jordan but MJ was probably stronger. Artest said he had the strength of a SF and that was in the early 2000s when he was with the Wizards and SFs were bulkier on average than they are now.
@GODIAM-sy9qb
@GODIAM-sy9qb Год назад
@@nocturne311 Not looking at his physical characteristics just the way he plays the gamę, especially in the mid range. What I would add: the way his jumper looks like. Obviously Mike was jumping higher but look at the shooting hand.
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 Год назад
@@GODIAM-sy9qb True but Leonard goes glass from time to time which is more reminiscent of Pippen in my opinion and his defense definitely says Scottie more than it does Mike.
@Roch95Ftw
@Roch95Ftw Год назад
JJ is a real one for mentioning Thinking Basketball
@G0DLIKE92
@G0DLIKE92 Год назад
12:47 completely agree.
@aqueelkadri8371
@aqueelkadri8371 Год назад
Damn I can't wait for the playoffs The western conference is gonna be insane
@CSSYankee
@CSSYankee Год назад
Godbless the trainers in Indiana ❤
@CSSYankee
@CSSYankee Год назад
Takes alot or skill
@status7505
@status7505 Год назад
PG is pretty entertaining to listen too
@MarioNotBros
@MarioNotBros Год назад
I'd love for you guys to have a Knick back on the show, this has been a great season, and they're playing the best ball they have so far. Julius Randle would be awesome to have on the show.
@arkoudiou
@arkoudiou Год назад
LeFraud Julius Randle? Hell naw, bring Josh Hart.
@BlakaveliX
@BlakaveliX Год назад
He's already been on the pod. Bring another knick
@MarioNotBros
@MarioNotBros Год назад
@@BlakaveliX hasn't been on in a bit though right? Beunson and RJ have been on more recently no?
@BlakaveliX
@BlakaveliX Год назад
@@MarioNotBros fax. you right.
@joncaples2624
@joncaples2624 Год назад
I wanted him to talk about the clippers vs suns WCF series 😭
@killayankees2
@killayankees2 Год назад
Please start putting timestamps for each subject pleaseee.
@ceezeeemowndeadzombie4014
@ceezeeemowndeadzombie4014 Год назад
13:40 to skip to Paul George.
@owenmichaels6442
@owenmichaels6442 Год назад
thanks bro
@DahEric23
@DahEric23 Год назад
I wanted more Miami V. Pacers series talk😞
@ChrisFowler2001
@ChrisFowler2001 Год назад
My favorite player ever since pacers days
@Paul_George_13
@Paul_George_13 Год назад
Thanks for having me jj
@1523bballer
@1523bballer Год назад
It’s the Lance stories for me 🤣🤣🤣
@Lee-tj8km
@Lee-tj8km Год назад
We need fun guy on the podcast!!!
@moonscourge6659
@moonscourge6659 Год назад
Yoooo can we get an episode on a nugget player. First time they have ever been the one seed for so long and so solidly. They need some love. I propose AG
@adam17
@adam17 Год назад
They did one recently... Then he got traded lol
@HechoEnCalifornia
@HechoEnCalifornia Год назад
Damn. That was one of the best episodes of the show, got even more amount of respect for PG after hearing him talk on real s*** in this episode! Much love
@jonnyloza4592
@jonnyloza4592 Год назад
this is why coaches like mike brown have his team thriving and relatively injury free.. They practice HARD on their days off
@uncklassboy180
@uncklassboy180 Год назад
that was tough hearing about the injury honestly. that was my favorite team/player and it really was the end of that era
@kilzoldyck5114
@kilzoldyck5114 Год назад
JJ please make a video of Perkins calling Jokic a stat padder come on now that Perkins is like the next Ryan Hollins. Give us your thoughts and yes good day 😭
@chel7236
@chel7236 Год назад
I can also relate to the rehab💪💪💪💪💪💪
@bradenward
@bradenward Год назад
my favorite episode
@PaulVece
@PaulVece Год назад
Yo after those stories I want Lance to be on my softball this summer. Sounds like such a great guy
@DigitaIJustice
@DigitaIJustice Год назад
PG has become one of my favorite just from the silky smooth jumper. Just fun to watch.
@silewis9396
@silewis9396 Год назад
For real it is silky smooth.. I like to see it on a midrange stepback fadeaway
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