Paul Mooney Warned Us About 'Tyler Perry Movies' - CH News Show 

You missed his point...

bingo! in fact MOST things that make millions are no good, imo.

​@@Fredericko-k7pwhat point?

​@@laz0ramadiet Coke makes millions and it's pure garbage

but u not layin out whats wrong w/TP's millions

Even Alex Cross......or did you even watch it 😂😂😂

This is the premise for every movies he's made in the past. I swear his work is rinse and repeat.

@@DevDaMan So true.. No rinse, just soak in the same water forever.. I must admit, they were interesting at the beginning, but as he said, I can do bad all by myself..😖

Same predictable outcomes time and time again...Mea Culpa! Lol

@@fyreleomh1896Lord no.. when I saw he was acting without a moo-moo and wig, I laughed.. when I read the reviews, I laughed even more…🤣

That would increase the operating cost. If he is not losing money, what would motivate him to have other Blk writers?

he better do what he's told

B🎯m!!!!!!!!

@@acebutterfly2725 he hires other writers (Black ones included) already. He just has them working on his stories instead of telling their own.

I am not following a man that drugged and raped women for decades.

I was definitely gonna say it's like the opposite of what bill Cosby did. He didn't like the perception he saw so he created something better so it can be done unless u lazy and settle for the easy money

Congratulations

Exactly those shows gave me hope and gave me a blueprint of what to expect being successful

And it was a hit so lav is just projecting

True. Others see money as a means to gain POWER. We see money as an end onto itself. Kanye's bank and Diddy's law firm dropped them both, proving that money has its limits.

Exactly

Yeah, that brother on the left the dark skin brother I don’t think he’s black American. He’s just saying a lot of off code stuff like he hasn’t lived in this country and been black. He’s on something else.

Good comment 😊

This was an ‘enlightening discussion, well done all round ………..

🎯 exactly. Programming/ b r a i n washing

I'm afraid this comment over their heads. Their too backwards.

#toodeepforshallowminds

@network ~💯❗️👉🏾you said it👈🏾BAM👊🏾

Yes , so well said !

I can't watch that Boondocks

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Aaron was ahead of his time

..and Hilarious

The boondocks. Never missed it. Loved it. I'm white sitting there watching with my jaw on the floor. 😮. Say WHAAAAAAAT 😂😂😂

RIP Richard Pryor (IYKYK)

The internet was ready to string up Paul two days before he passed

​@@charlesmiller8299, Right!

RIP Paul Mooney ~ I forgot he was gone

⁠damn really

Agree 100%...

Period ‼️

Who over the age of 30 hasn't seen Antwon fisher? Denzel movies ALWAYS get major traffic. But Denzel is like the superman of Hollywood, but we need more. He shouldn't be the only one of few trying to make good black stories

MacBeth was released at a time when most of the (world outside the US) still had a lot of covid restrictions, cinemas were not open. Denzel's movies do well in the US but even better internationally.

Zero rewatch value in his work for me if I even watch it 🤷🏾 I’m tired of folks reselling trauma to keep us in a perpetual state of men/women ain’t shit and/or that we’re consistent victims/criminals smh…

Black womens trauma porn for closeted men who hate them

@@Thepharcyde4ever and when there is nowhere else for his storyline to go to twist. and twist again.

You forgot going to church and forgiveness is not for them, but for you because if you stay mad, then they keep the power.

yep

Love it!!

Right, they told Spike he was jealous

Bit when Spike was popular back in the late 80s early 90s he had his share of backroom politics when it came to dealing with black actors, besides Denzel Washington and a few other actors he really never gave any opportunities to them, and instead of criticizing Tyler he should've took him under his wing and mentored him.

Spike called it buffoonery, because the comedy aspect was way over the top, and silly, he wasn't talking about how Tyler portrays black men with stereotypes which are always evil and or the abuser

@@generalkhan5569 is Tyler Perry a man who is receptive to mentorship and feedback? We’ve been asking for a writers room and he refuses

@@deesudie your right, but I believe Oprah so clueless and money hungry she didn’t know what he was talking about. Just look at how many times her and her buddy gayle put their foot in their mouths.

That part.

That movie was so ahead of its time. I think it's because all that Black success was not even the focus of the movie, it was implied success, matter-of-fact. It was brilliant.

God bless the 90s!

Naww it was simps and feminism all through that movie

OMG. That's the truth. The problem is they don't promote it. That's Why and TP is in a position to promote and he doesn't!!!!

I agree!

Tyler is only making movies on his experience

He feeds his customers is the truest statement. We consume BS and until we stop supporting BS things will never change. 😡We are the biggest consumers on the planet and we can control what is or isn’t produced to the masses 🤦🏽‍♂️

@@kimaleycreese28 i love it very intelligent

Thank you....his generalities are aggy

Like he said, Tyler couldnt have become a billionaire if a large segment of the community werent watching his movies

Black folks do more than struggle, and pray. It’s the same thing as seeing countless, identical movies and shows like ‘Power’ over and over and over again

UnLuved Lav needs to have several seats. His opinion was disappointing.

So don’t watch them

@@ventionsx and these are the memories he is preying on in the black community. We have evolved as a black community and that doesn’t mean we should forget our history it just means that as black people we are now more stable. We are educated and some of us are truly Spiritual. He is a slave master to his own people.

Y'all don't demonize White and other filmmakers for how they portray Black people. Why not? Scared?

@@eggedon6112 How do you know this? Also, it's for this reason that we expect our own blacks to not be like crabs in a bucket pulling each other down. But lifting each other up. This is the issue with blacks. Whites will also lift each other up even when wrong some times but black people just step on one another. We have enough movies made by white people tearing us down why do we have to do it to ourselves? What does if profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul?

I agree with the guest that said, we are all consumers. We make choices by our consumerism. Tyler Perry is talented and shows that we all can live our dream. He also casts a large number of African American actresses that we might not see. He is doing other things to lift up our community. In 2013 after a friend found out I never saw one of his movies, watching the marriage counselor provided me a new experience. I did not get up and walk out, which says a lot about my consumerism in action. I also never watched it again. I enjoyed Alex Cross. The saying "variety is the spice of life" seems so appropriate. I cant imagine a year going by without seeing Alvin Ailey dancers, Shen Yun or Universal Soul Circus. We live in a wonderfully artistic and colorful world.

💯 AGREED! I FEEL YOU!!!

thank you. him and dick gregory.

Seriously…they told us long ago & it went over a lot of people’s heads.

Everything

Spike was told he was a hater 4 speaking about Tyler movies

Including Christ being Black.

Not enough I’m tired of all the slavery movies I want positive feel good happy movies! We deserve that!

@@michelleelmore3974 Give an example of a feel good movie you would like to see that us black people will spend money on.

A successful Black couple moving in the correct order. Black believable action movies, Black children cartoons. Black heroes.

@@IsaidwhatISaid914 Exactly! If it can be done with every demographic why can't we spend a LOT more time in the positive aspects of our journey in the Black community?! We all have different struggles in our community and as one said on this threat "we are not a fucking monolith" except they didn't use the f-word

Problem is, when something new *does* pop up we turn against it & them within a few short years. That train is never late. All it takes is for one of our favorite podcasters to say something asinine that they don't like about something, and our collective herd mentality makes us turn against even the most promising Black creators and artists🤦🏾‍♂️ Damn shame. But *it does* explain a lot though.

ALWAYS

You forgot rich dark-skinned black men are always the villains in Tyler Perry movie

SOMETIMES it's a woman 🤔👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@@evonza4858once so stop it

@@Deriv44 dark skinned black men with money as well

😂😂😂😂😂EXACTLY!

Money is the root of all…

& another divorcee (Richard Lawson) playing the minister. Coincidence or no? 🤔

Right The movie look like it’s going to be good actually 😂😂😂 But we’ve always seen this type of movie before lol And I haven’t watched Tyler Perry movie in a long long time so I guess I watched this one! Because of the actors

@@juju929 It's hard to find people who were never divorced in Hollywood.

Tyler Perry is a capitalist who is simply catering to angry people who have unstable relationships and irrational outlooks. Unfortunately, it’s plenty of those type of people in the black community. It can’t be helped.🤷🏾‍♂️

Black women his audience. They'll watch anything that has black men portrayed negatively.

​@@lastsam9846exactly

So don't watch if ur not a fan WTF😂😂😂

@@SlimeNewsI won’t be watching 😊

Yes we did😔

You all lost a man who was a homosexual who molested his friends son?

Agreed!

My favorite comedian 😊❤ R.I.P PM 🙏🏾💞

He told it like it was! RIP sir! 😎❤️

Agree 100%....

And black people bought into it just like sexy red it's gotta be a machine pushing this marrat8ve and not allowing black positivity to shine

Tru.

Hollywood loves hypocrisy

Just like rappers

So y’all just miss all the positive outcomes of all those movies! Which DONT happen in real life!! Too busy trying to to hate on him and miss the bigger picture!! Smh forget all the BLACK ppl he jobs! Crazy

Not only that, growing up my Grandmother raised us to speak proper English and not to be so foolish

So done with Tyler perry's movies..

I like Tyler Perry’s Comedy Movies. Laughter is Good for the Soul

For prosperity gospel mega "churches"

Yall spin anything to make it fit the light skin vs dark skin narrative you’re obsessed with.

​@@Lifendz ive said that too .IN FACT I believe that If every race / ethnicity of people on earth disappeared today EXCEPT for black people within 1-weeks time I guarantee you that the dark blacks would start FALSELY ACCUSING the LIGHT BLACKS of racial discrimination and be asking them to pay REPARATIONS .

​@@LifendzIt's not spin, literally in this new movie The browner color Man is the bad guy and the lighter brown man is the good guy. That's not speculative, that's a fact!

​@@Lifendz in the absence of white people some black people will make the lightest black into their white villian .

I'm so tired of hearing about this trauma bullshit. Shit happens in life. It's how you learn to cope is what counts. You don’t get a pass because you experienced trauma. Please 🤨

@@edsson2648 Sounds like you need some healing so you don't have to cope. That's a huge problem in our community. No one is healing. Everyone is just bleeding all over each other. Very sad.

Your last line is life. Beautiful.

Or made-up trauma, in order to capitalize on Black struggles in order to enrich himself. Victimhood is real hot right now.

Thank you! He literally has said this a million times. People are unhinged in today’s society. Instead of not watching his movies, they tune in just to criticize everything about him and his work. Mental illness

Ikr smh They can still bring him back if they wanted to ....get super created smh

Exactly.

They were going to replace him but the fans found it disrespectful to replace him. We have to pick and choose

...or...y'all can learn to make a script and be the change you want to see. Tyler Perry ain't the savior of black people..

Isn’t he coming back in the son?

@tawny4613 PROTECT YOU MEAN REVIVE ITS ALREADY DISTROYED AND MOSTLY BY OUR OWN

Which image??😂😂😂😂 Tyler Perry is only showing what others already know about black people.

The boondocks also REVEALED PROPHECY about alot of filth & shit in black American culture.

🤣

Boondocks is just so ahead of its time on literally everything related to black culture

Rap culture is the worst thing to happen to black people. There are so many gifted black people in music - the composing, writing, and performing. But rap has permeated the whole society and it's not a good message for anybody of any race.

Such a great comment and SEVERELY underrated. I guess black folks have romanticized drama, bufoonery, ignorance, hypersexualization, etc.

TP movies usually have black doctors and/or lawyers

@@XeniasWorldyeah, the black men in his movies sometimes are successful, but he always portray them as abusive, womanizers, and psychopaths! It's too many hard working good black men in this world for him to portray us as the scum of the earth!

@@XeniasWorld 🙄🙄🙄 They only see what they want to see. Tyler Perry himself has played a single father with custody of his kids. An accomplishment black men whine and cry about being impossible because the courts favor women. This is the perpetual victim hood that people talk about and leads to us losing support. We sit around bothered by the wrong stuff. I really feel like all these people complaining, can relate to the so called negative light they claim is all that his movies show. And they feel like they are being exposed. Triggered!

❤❤

didn't know that he had passed..rih. love you always

@@candace27coI know saw him in concert and met him, he autographed a CD for me..such a cool person he was.

@@cindyb2525 😇🙏🏾

What was the cause of death. Thanks

That part

This! This!

Facts.

Thank you! It was so frustrating listening to all his dismissive anecdotal arguments. Like do you even hear what your saying? Saying the malls are full of sneaker stores while not even addressing the fact that those stores are not owned by us, and rather they push these sort of business into our communities then make media propaganda to paint this narrative that we asked for it. I thought we were woke in 2024? It's the same thing they do in the Media. We don't ask for trauma porn. They keep making it and marketing it to us. And I'm pretty sure the same amount of psychological damage is happening when black women and girls have to constantly see downtrodden, betrayed and beat down black women stories 24/7. Black people are not monolithic. We want real stories, we want fantasy, adventure, action, feel good, funny, family and dammit we want all of that for our children too! I'm tired of seeing white children being anything they want to be, while our babies get movies about growing up in the hood 😡

Naw, you may not like how he articulated it, but it's true. He's basically saying these movies only get made because BLACK PEOPLE keep going out to see it. Just like negative music keeps getting made because black people keep elevating and supporting it. Black people will sit behind a keyboard and reject things but they don't do it in practice. You for example, are just going to turn around and go right back to bumping Lil Baby, Lil Dirk, etc. People out here are hypocrites and have no shame.

yep and ounce you dig deeper into this you will find out who really runs the film and tv industry and this go's for any race of people , that industry as a whole is wicked if your not part of the "CLUB" and if your not you get the same treatment as Mo'Nique ,kat w etc.

That goes for everything the masses consume. They produce it, promote it, and supply it all.

Facts

The point is stop consuming the negative movies

@@Ladsoftware All groups consume negative media. Breaking Bad Sons of Anarchy Euphoria

Black panther inspired a lot of black boys and girls.

Very interesting but GOOD COMMENT.

At the end of the day, Spike is still hater!!😂😂😂

Exactly

Salute I agree. James Earl Jones before Darth Vader 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Great movie .. watch every chance I get

Legendary Diane Carroll

@@Vesalate5151 Claudine is one of my all-time favorite movies, and the soundtrack is the bomb.

Why

State of union

I'm surprised that he hasn't made Madea goes into space. Madea Goes Back To Jail,Madea Gets A Man Madea's Daycare. Those would be great films if Madea wasn't doing the same thing over and over.

It says that our culture only cares about things that uplift us in theory but in reality, we really could give a shit less about things of that regard. I love my people but we hoop and holler all day long about how we don't have films or music that uplift our culture and the moment that something does come along that is positive for black people, we don't really support it or we scrutinize it greatly. Black people have been saying for years that we want our own soap operas because we are not represented greatly on the current ones that are on the air. We had "ambitions" and "our kind of people" air within the last few years and those were black nighttime soap operas and both of them only lasted one season. Black people have been saying for years that we want music that is more positive and more cultured.....Andre 3000 comes out with a flute album and he is immediately crucified by this community. Black people have been saying for years that we want television that tells our story and the history of our culture. We get a show called "Underground" in that regard and it's about slavery and it gets 2 seasons and it is cancelled and Oprah has the option to pick it up on OWN but declines because she says it's not "profitable". Meanwhile this is the same woman who has trashy reality shows on her channel and thinks that's what the culture wants to see and thinks that the "story" of all black people. The point that I am trying to make here is that black people will bitch and moan about wanting something good and positive and when we get it, we really don't want it. I think that the only thing that disputes that theory is when "Black Panther" was released. Blacks absolutely went wild for that film and we dressed up and showed out and were in the theaters for it on opening day. However the caveat of that is you know most of the writers room for that film were white or latina, so it wasn't truly a black film. Tyler Perry's films are successes because of the black church. The man is a billionaire because church buses full of people went to his plays in the beginning of his career and supported him thereafter. Oh and if you know anything about being black and being in the black church, anything that you are told to do or that you hear is considered doctrine. I honestly feel like until the black community really wants better and is not just wanting better in theory, we are going to keep dealing with shitty filmmakers like a Tyler Perry or shitty ass musicians like a Sexxy Red.

What makes you think his largest base are black? Yt people buy tickets to go see all Tyler perry movies

And his gross movie sales aren't really more than his budget. So why is he given a budget or any type of financial support from outside investors? Netflix gave him money for mea Culpa and he made money because he doesn't hire anyone.

Kendrick is the exception. Name some more

Mos def, Nas

@@dstreet43 yes, exactly... My kids' favorite song is" I know I can" by Nas

@@Ishbikes Lupe fiasco, j. Cole. Nas, most Def, queen latifah, Black eyed peas, EVEN DRAKE, at one point in his career. Tupac was half and half, but still he's relevant 30 years later. I can go on if you want

@@willdavis3951 Drake conscious? Cmon man 😂😂

Lav is a willing agent putting out false narratives for the ops. Nothing else to say. So supporting anything he does and watch him turn into a tp character....old broke down angry black man who got played by his own stupidity

Exactly. Crab in a bucket mentally at it's finest.

Tyler Perry is bigger than Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry is opening many doors and breaking barriers. And he mainly employs black people. There will be a generation of black filmmakers who get to do what they do because of Tyler Perry. He's going to make it easier for certain types of movies to find funding. His success shows that movies don't NEED to cater to a white audience. That's actually a relatively new concept. He is putting us first by not seeking crossover success and giving our talent a chance to shine in ways they traditionally aren't able to in white cinema.

Right. Idk what PM was talking about saying keeping secrets quiet. Nah expose them that’s why ppl can’t heal

No more victimhood excuses.

@@rw2698 give me an example of victimhood excuses?

That may be but are his movies really helping or is he beating a dead dog. That also doesn't explain why he doesn't hire other writers or why most times his production quality is so low.

@@TheLoveweaver it is too much. He needs balance. Also, he needs writers for sure. Him trying to hog every project and gives us similar stories different cast is played and old.

Exactly I loved that movie and it had more actors with name recognition and other good acting credits for projects other than Tyler Perry projects. I like Tyler Perry HOWEVER, it would be nice if he did some stuff that is different than the stereotypical formula. Most of his movies mirror his plays. His movies and plays sell really well so it is understandable why he sticks with the formula.

@@bossman5792 Unfortunately the writing is shit! White people don't talk like that and black women, no matter how stressed don't talk to black men like that. It was a poor attempt at Perry trying to mix the ethnicities with his style.

@@mariebrooks7341 I dare TP to write a complicated movie with substance. Please get out of the hood. There are several other classes and environments to focus on!🤨

I liked ' Good Deeds' , 'Alex Cross' & and' Fall from Grace.'

Likewise!

If you made a movie, what would it be about?

Yea that analogy aggravated me

Very interesting observation 🤔 2 more perfect examples of CAPITALISM! Nike Air Jordans ( $10 to manufacture ). Retail price for Nike Air Jordans ( $250 - $350 ). Dior women handbags ( $28 to manufacture ). Retail price for a Dior women handbags ( $2,800 ).

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Not all of us feel the need to be a "united front". I'm not defined by my race, and will think independently. You can be proud of your race but don't fall for the groupthink at the same time.

And with that mind set that is why we are failing as a race. U can say “ I’m not defined by my race” as much as you want …white Mexicans Asians etc..say the opposite and that’s why they are winning and will continue

His mind needs to wander somewhere else. I know what that is when it comes to family trauma. Heartless to the point of death but my writing is my escape. What it is that I lack in this life I create an alternate one where I do have it. All that money Tyler Perry has he should be able to see the world and see how cultures interact when it comes to their own family instead of writing about a bunch of scandalous stories. Integrate that observation into your own writing. I'd get sick of writing that cringe worthy shit.

​​@@alphanomega2799black folks are the only one's who think they can rise above the circumstances of their own people.....while other group's like Arab's ,are building bridges amongst themselves ....you are 💯 spot on

That would weaken the victim card.

Then make a movie showcasing the black middle class America.

@@theultimatenewplayer9341 I wish. Not a producer or director

@@daryl-anthonymitchell6786 there barely is a Blk middle class. Just about 70% of all Blk households of 4 make less than 65k annually and Less than 10% make over 100k. And it’s been that way along time.

Why no one made a movie about black wall street before they destroyed it.

Sorry but Tyler Perry movies are horribly written

Beautifully spoken ❤

​@@ThundaCrackaand I bet you've seen every last one of them 😕🤣

Yesss more of this more of calling out self hate

Wonderfully said and written we are our own worst enemy. As much as I hate to say this that Willie lynch syndrome is totally on us.

I concur! If you only see despair and foolishness in entertainment, you tend to sympathize with those who mean you harm. Look at P-Valley. It's given a new side to exotic dancing, but it shows the seedier side in balance. If you balance the narrative, give pause and cause your audience to think, then THAT is innovative.

I speaking from a perspective of, if we don’t like it why are we consuming it? I know networking executives. Who will tell you we ask for positive programming but we don’t watch it when they do. So what’s a company suppose to do?

@@Comedianlavluv That is a great response/question. For me, there's some psychological based (dime store as they are) reasons why we gravitate to particular kinds of media. I believe a big part of it is decades and decades of us not being represented. I think we're taking what we recognize as a result. But I believe there's hope. Seeing families and school trips dressed up en mass for Black Panther. Anecdotal as it may be. It showed me that there's a hunger for something other than stereotypes that have been presented for years. The work Donald Glover and Jordan Poole are doing. There's an underserved market out there. Not only should black creators rush to fill it. But if they begin to offer more unique, thoughtful work I think we will begin to gravitate to and eventually accept more diverse black stories and characters.

INTERESTING OBSERVATION 🤔

You are so right, I think we should be more concerned about what we eat and do we exercise our bodies verses a Tyler Perry movie ! He does need to switch it up but we have much bigger problems than "movies" . 😮😮

That's unfortunate SMH!!

Untrue. Pertaining to that one, no, you sell them what you make them think they want and what you make them think they need. Neither is applicable in this context.

For some reason people dont understand that. What usually goes viral? Its nothing positive but its something negative. If people would support something postive he would make those types of movies.

Seems true but sad!

Amen.

Lol, yup

Him,Denzel,Spike,Cube,Regina King,Eddie Murphy,Kevin Hart, oprah etc should all put their money 2gether & form their own & distribute. That way we get a variety

I was just thinking this

For SOME black people.. I never cared for his plays or movies. I’m old enough to remember when his plays first started.. they use to always play them in hair salons😂

@@SheIsFearfullyWonderfullyMadeThey were annoying as fck!

Tylerbperry having a wife was already unbelievable

😅😂😅😂​@@dominiquejones3805

​​@@dominiquejones3805 He was actually married before.😅😂😅

Speaking of Alex Cross, I felt that Omar Epps would have been a BETTER FIT.

​@@freddy8479 Another Good actor who would've smashed that part.

Right the boondocks writer is creative and spot on

I am so glad you said that because I was thinking the same thing.

Frfr, weird azz dude

Interesting observation 🤔

Yeah like the new color purple🤦🏽‍♀️ the first one was ok BUT that second one🥴😩😐 all the men were either pedo/molesters, women beaters, cheaters, cowards, weak, drunks, arrogant, etc the list goes on… disgusting movie

can’t blame people for consuming negative shit because that’s what gets promoted/pushed in our faces…you have to actually search for positive content…we just want it the other way around,promote positivity and let us search for negativity

You're speaking generally just as he was trying to put all black people in your little box of what you experienced. See the problem with making a broad brush stroke statement is it just sounds ridiculous. You can't say everybody because you can't possibly know that everyone did what you said they did. Make your statements more personal and talk about the small percentage of people you've encountered. Yall also fail to be able to explain your stance when making your points about why one positive form of medium is not as popular within black communities opposed to the negative forms of media. You're just telling one side without giving the full picture. Btw the black panther soundtrack was made back in the 90s but you're wanting to compare that to something so recent as not like us??? You pulled that one straight outta your 🍑

More positivity? Like what? What do you specifically want to see?

i didn't know that constantly making a movie about the trauma that most black families go through and continuing to make those moves to paint a picture that has a negative connotation to it and for someone to realize "oh, i can't enjoy this at all or anymore because it is further pushing a stereotype we shouldn't be okay with" is hating, but you got it.

🙈 💯 💯 💯 🙈

💥

Black women over the age of 40

thesupervisor3270, not this black woman over 40… I never watched any of his tv shows, only seen one play because it was a family event and my mom purchased the ticket, and only 3 of his movies ( “why did I get married”, which was fine. The other 2 I can’t remember but Madea wasn’t in it because I don’t support drag/men in dresses)

It depends on how they view family dynamics.

Tyler Perry is the trash can of the film industry. Notice how there's is not that many A-list Oscar winning actors/actresses in his movies. You will NEVER see Denzel Washington or Meryl Streep in a TP production 😂 It's always these D-list actors doing a Tyler Perry movie.