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Darren McCarty and Neal Ruhl discuss who the better player was between Pavel Datsyuk and Sergei Fedorov. Both players accomplished greatness during their time with the Detroit Red Wings. Which player (Datsyuk or Fedorov) do you believe was better during their time? Like, Subscribe, and leave your comments below!
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@theawayfan6052
@theawayfan6052 2 года назад
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@WoodwardSports 2 года назад
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@klompsauce
@klompsauce 2 года назад
F A T H O G S P I R I T
@theawayfan6052
@theawayfan6052 2 года назад
@@klompsauce ^That's the energy we need
@MetalDetroit
@MetalDetroit 2 года назад
I’ll tell you this; McCarty scored probably the greatest Stanley Cup winning goal in history. And I was there with my dad. Will never forget it. Thank you Darren !
@Brotha00
@Brotha00 7 месяцев назад
Man, the inside out goal spin jump hands up celly will never leave my mind.
@brianradwanski6544
@brianradwanski6544 2 года назад
We have had such fortune as fans to even be having this discussion. But for me, Pavel Datsyuk was an artist on an entirely different level. He was poetry in motion. And then pair that astounding skill with his humble personage and selflessness. He is a once in a lifetime talent and I loved every moment watching him play.
@ayewhaddupdoe
@ayewhaddupdoe 2 года назад
As someone who watched both eras, Pavel. One of the top 5 most skilled guys in NHL history imo. You hear "Datsyukian" used as an adjective, not "Sergeian". Fed is still one of the best to wear the wheel though.
@TWTexasA1
@TWTexasA1 2 года назад
Fedorov……when he was at the top of his game he was unbelievable 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@alschbachb
@alschbachb 2 года назад
Ever since Datsyuk left the wings have been boring. He was the most exciting player I’ve ever seen play the game.
@charedboy2
@charedboy2 2 года назад
I was always struck at Pavel's pure ability to take the puck away from guys at will, then he would go on the offensive, deke the skates off of whom ever he pleased and then make the goalie feel some kind of way about his own abilities to stop a puck. You can't say one was better than the other but you can say holy shit these two were apex hockey players in two different styles. Sergei would coast to coast the shit out of a puck, with such speed, great handles and great protection, to the point of breaking all containment that a team could put on a guy and then make the goalie feel some kind of way about his own skills. I feel very happy i could watch the full careers of each guy with the wings.
@KB-qk7kn
@KB-qk7kn 2 года назад
In a way he ruined the game for me. I keep hoping for the next player with his talent but they never come. Even todays best players are boring compared to him.
@alschbachb
@alschbachb 2 года назад
@@KB-qk7kn wow I never thought of that but I actually feel the same way. In todays nhl the best players are boring compared to what we used to watch pavel do
@YooperHatesOhioState
@YooperHatesOhioState 2 года назад
Him and Z were untouchable when they were on the ice together
@piggyintheshadows
@piggyintheshadows 2 года назад
It's a different situation now, but some of the moves Seider did this year got gasps from the crowd which is something we haven't heard since Pav left.
@ValhallaRaven
@ValhallaRaven 2 года назад
Datsyuk is one of the most complete players to ever play the game.
@RushAnthem69
@RushAnthem69 2 года назад
So was Fedorov
@chizorama
@chizorama 8 месяцев назад
The problem is so was Federov, he had a Norris contending moment when he was asked to play D. Datsyuk was more dynamic, Federov just made it look easy, both were great.
@RedHotWings
@RedHotWings 4 месяца назад
Another player like this I hate to admit being die hard wings fan but Forsberg. Complete player
@ricklafraugh398
@ricklafraugh398 2 года назад
Love them both, but I always said pav was like Barry Sanders on ice
@SherlockHercule
@SherlockHercule 2 года назад
Would've loved to see what prime Fedorov would have done without the two line pass rule
@pjpredhomme7699
@pjpredhomme7699 2 года назад
I think Datsyuk was incredibly strong especially in his legs - lower body why he was so hard to knock down or off the puck
@kolptroop9983
@kolptroop9983 2 года назад
LOVE them both- for me Sergei was the most electric player I’ve ever seen in person. The Wings were blessed to have both of them. FYI I’m a Wings guy but live in the Seattle area now- hence the Kraken logo. I really really hope #91 is lifted to the rafters soon. It shouda been at JLA but make it fuckin happen at LCA.
@SS-px3rs
@SS-px3rs 2 года назад
Retire 91
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
Datsyuk. He's the most skilled player to ever touch the ice by a country mile, its not even close. Not knocking Fedorov either, its just Datsyuk was in a league of his own. And if Datsyuk wasn't injured in the finals in 2009, I strongly believe the wings would have won back to back cups.
@youvegottabekiddingme1955
@youvegottabekiddingme1955 2 года назад
No doubt that the Wings would have won 09 if Pav was healthy
@mrjojo2836
@mrjojo2836 10 месяцев назад
This may be a year late...but no way. Fedorov had the skating, the shot, the hockey sense, the defense, the size. Also came up WAY more clutch than Datsyuk in important games. Datsyuk was knocked for his playoff vanishing act the first half of his career. Fair if you think #13, but not by a "country mile". Thats insane.
@nathanielwiens6364
@nathanielwiens6364 2 года назад
I think the key to this question is how it's phrased. If it was "who was the better hockey player," then it's a tough call and you can go into what made each of them great. The question was "who amazed you more" which to me would be Pavel, without a second thought. Dude was the Magic Man because he left you in awe at what was possible.
@zachhamm3610
@zachhamm3610 2 года назад
1994 Sergie Federov is on my all NHL team.
@bighouse1695
@bighouse1695 2 года назад
Great question and great debate topic. DMac hit it on the nose, two best physically gifted hockey players we have ever seen. Only thing I wish is that Fedorov wasn’t such an enigma. If Sergei would have given it 💯 throughout his career he’d be in the topic of top 5 players all-time. We saw what he could do when he turned it on. ‘98 playoffs when he had a $25 million bonus at stake he was unstoppable. ‘94 when he was the man while Yzerman was out he was MVP. The list is endless. Both were good on defense but edge to Pavel. Stickhandling goes to Pavel but you didn’t see anyone handle the puck like Pavel before he was in the league. Edge in shot to Fedorov, but to be fair that really wasn’t Datsyuk’s game. Both players were amazing to watch and we were lucky as DRW fans to see them
@jonathongordon4814
@jonathongordon4814 2 года назад
No wrong answer. Top 100 players. Sergei, when motivated, I’d give a slight edge.
@Snipes-76
@Snipes-76 11 месяцев назад
Same. He was truly unbelievable when he was on his game.
@YooperHatesOhioState
@YooperHatesOhioState 2 года назад
I miss pav. Childhood hero other than favre
@youvegottabekiddingme1955
@youvegottabekiddingme1955 2 года назад
I think it boils down to differences physically between the two, kind of like what McCarty alluded to. I think Federov was more physically gifted, could rely more on his physical gifts, whereas Pav was more creative and gifted mentally, had to always be thinking. I've heard Pav described as a genius by many people, including interviews with other NHL players, because his intelligence and creative were off the charts, but I've never heard anybody describe Fedorov as a genius (that was Larionov), for Fedorov's physical gifts were so great that he could do anything. How I would describe it is-Fedorov's star burned brighter, but Pav's star burned longer. If I had to pick one to win a game, I'd choose Fedorov. When Fedorov was on, he was on like no one else. But there will always be his lack of consistency, whereas Pav was always consistent. I can't recall a game where I thought that Pav didn't show up. So if I had to pick one for an entire season's worth of play, I'd choose Pav.
@paulutterback4359
@paulutterback4359 2 года назад
Dasyuk
@mcsibs
@mcsibs Год назад
The last time the wings made the playoffs was the last year datsyuk was there. I don't think people realize how much zetterberg and datsyuk were propping up a bad roster after Lidstrom retired. We remember fedorov leaving during the height of the wings talent. We remember zetterberg and datsyuk leaving at the decline. Z and dat had to be separated and log 20 minutes a game just to keep things on the rails. When they were linemates is when we really saw the brilliance
@DC8091
@DC8091 2 года назад
Fedorov, nothin against Pavs, but Fedorov is most complete player ever
@nikanconqueror7
@nikanconqueror7 2 года назад
Interesting to hear others opinions.. but i think the same with Datsyuk complete game to me is just all around great player and Two-way Forward and Datsyuk had great defence compared to Fedorov imo who had a more offensive mindset.
@DC8091
@DC8091 2 года назад
@@nikanconqueror7 Pavel played mostly in Babcocks Possession No-Hit League system that slowed his scoring, but Feds played all 3 Forwards, D-man, PK, & was known for D & Speed before his offense
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@DC8091 the stats don't lie. And neither do the selkes.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@DC8091 also federov was on a better team at that respective time
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@DC8091 without Datsyuk the wings would have been absolute trash, and he was brought up late at 23 or 24 yrs old.
@florida1289
@florida1289 2 года назад
Pav is the better player if that's what we're asking. If I'm starting a team tomorrow, post SY, Lidstrom, Yzerman, Pav, Konstantinov, Federov, Zetterberg, Shanahan
@chetcrowley6526
@chetcrowley6526 2 года назад
Pavel was my favorite they haven’t been the same since he left
@JoeSmith-ey2xp
@JoeSmith-ey2xp 2 года назад
1. Lidstrom 2.Yzerman 3. Datsyuk 4.Hasek 5. Federov are the best Red Wings I ever watched Live.
@efogg3
@efogg3 2 года назад
Probert, Maltby, Kronwall ,Draper, DMac. Kocur Good thing were on the same team Joe! lol LGRW!!
@JoeSmith-ey2xp
@JoeSmith-ey2xp 2 года назад
@@efogg3 While my list was about the most skilled, Probert will always be my favorite Red Wing of all time.
@nikanconqueror7
@nikanconqueror7 2 года назад
I would switch Hasek with Zetterberg for me and at 1. Datsyuk and 2. Yzerman.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@nikanconqueror7 he's average Joe what do you expect lol
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
1.Datsyuk 2. Yzerman 3. Lidstrom 4. Fedorov 5. Hasek You could switch Fedorov and Hasek either way i see them at 4 or 5.
@Pfsif
@Pfsif 9 месяцев назад
Sergi played defence for a while, THAT's well rounded.
@TomHarmonFanClub
@TomHarmonFanClub 2 года назад
Today I will watch seek to watch footage from the Federov, Datsyuk days…plus Yzerman. Glory days, great player’s. Legends all!!!
@CertifiedClapaholic
@CertifiedClapaholic 2 года назад
Datsyuk is literally one of the GOATs. His numbers weren't flashy but his defense was so good that he nullified guys like Crosby and Malkin.
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 2 года назад
And Fedorov could switch back to D, at any time, and be their second best Dman after Lidstrom. Hard question to answer.
@CertifiedClapaholic
@CertifiedClapaholic 2 года назад
@@kftc1980 he was similar to Datsyuk in that regard, no doubt. I remember him doing it, but his defense wasn't as good as Datsyuk's
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 2 года назад
@@CertifiedClapaholic hard to say. Datsyuk could do anything with his hands and create turnovers, but Fedorov had the mobility to contain or chase anyone down. There are many ways to dominate defensively, just contrast Lidstrom with Scott Stevens. For forwards, compare Datsyuk with Claude Lemieux or Esa Tikkanen. All effective defensively, yet all different. Mark Stone is a contemporary who has a Datsyukian approach, constantly picking peoples pockets with perfect timing.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@kftc1980 Not really mark stone is nowhere near that level. The closest would be Bergeron and even he's not.
@kftc1980
@kftc1980 2 года назад
@@stopdroolin8418 I specifically highlighted picking pockets, aka takeaways. Look up NHL takeaways leaders by season. The two highest totals ever are Datsyuk. The 3rd and 4th are Stone.
@garykennedy72
@garykennedy72 2 года назад
Red Wings should hire McCarty to teach wings like Rasmussen, Seidel how to fight. They’ll be going after Morris from now on, and can you imagine a tough Rasmussen. Plus Sunquist seems willing and Wallander, Edvinsson definitely better be able to hold his own or he’ll be injured and ruined !!
@PonAdidas
@PonAdidas 7 месяцев назад
Fedorov with the MVP. He was slightly better offensively and definitely, skating, dude was unreal.
@SS-px3rs
@SS-px3rs 2 года назад
Patrick Roy said fedorov shot was the hardest shot in the league
@Knards
@Knards 7 месяцев назад
Sergei will always be my favorite player. He was end to end the best in the league in his time. But that doesnt take anything away from Pavel who was sublime
@klompsauce
@klompsauce 2 года назад
Pavel Datsyuk has the best hands I’ve ever seen, Federov is the best two way forward ever, this is impossible.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
Datsyuk was the better two way forward. Datsyuk 3 selkes. Fedorov 2 selkes. Case closed.
@michaelclaiborne5368
@michaelclaiborne5368 2 года назад
@@stopdroolin8418 so what Fedorov has 2 of those too, plus a Hart and Ted Lindsay. The guy literally played defense for the Wings. Pavel never did.
@michaelclaiborne5368
@michaelclaiborne5368 2 года назад
@@stopdroolin8418 FYI Fedorov won 2 Selke trophies in 94 and 96 so your statement is wrong.
@nikanconqueror7
@nikanconqueror7 2 года назад
@@michaelclaiborne5368 I still think Datsyuk is the best Two-way forward of all time but thats just my opinion.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
@@michaelclaiborne5368 what are you talking about? If he did then why didn't he win another selke trophy?
@Knards
@Knards Месяц назад
Federov will always be my favorite Red Wing. And that's taking nothing away from Datsyuk who was incredibly skilled. Sergey could do everything at high speed. Remind Darrin that people are still watching his immaculate goal on youtube
@mrmalcolmrogers
@mrmalcolmrogers 9 месяцев назад
I was amazed at Federov and had his Posters everywhere when he came out...when Datsyuk started my favorite Red Wing player of all times changed. Fedorov was way more dynamic an offense player than Datsyuk but the Magician was skilled all around...in my opinion that's what made Datsyuk the best overall player for the DRW of all times.
@Logan-ee5rx
@Logan-ee5rx 4 месяца назад
Yup i had that white russian poster on my wall. Everyone wanted to be Sergei, he was the man.
@marcusstover7565
@marcusstover7565 2 года назад
Sergi was one of my favorite wings 🙌🏾
@romanlitvin-777
@romanlitvin-777 5 месяцев назад
Рад видеть тебя Даррен, здоровья тебе!
@jeffreyhall76
@jeffreyhall76 5 месяцев назад
We were blessed here in Michigan with some amazing Russian hockey players and DMACK!
@wallacepeeace6492
@wallacepeeace6492 2 года назад
Can you imagine if Datsyuk and Fedorov were linemates both in their prime?!?! AND their would have been more cups I bet...
@socialmediag5485
@socialmediag5485 2 года назад
Fedorov 100%
@TomHarmonFanClub
@TomHarmonFanClub 2 года назад
Darren Mc destroying Claude Lemieux was one of the most exhilarating moments of standup (Drapes) I’ve ever seen. Thank you D-Mac!!! I still hate the Avalanche!
@alwillk
@alwillk 2 года назад
Federov was so good skating you could play him on defense. Datsyuk had better hands, but Sergei was the better skater.
@stopdroolin8418
@stopdroolin8418 2 года назад
He was not as smooth of a skater as Datsyuk
@alexkerr2343
@alexkerr2343 9 месяцев назад
​@stopdroolin8418 I completely disagree. I think you meant it the other way around.
@massivecumshot
@massivecumshot 2 года назад
Pavel had the slinky moves and agility of a circus acrobat, but Sergei had the raw speed of a sprinter. The Wings desperately need BOTH skills to compete.
@kennethrussell1320
@kennethrussell1320 2 года назад
Datsyuk and Federov.... Pretty close. Federov had a 5 goal game, an overtime winner to win 5 to 4. Datsyuk just did some ridiculous things though. McDavid is clearly the best ever. Crosby is on the all-time JV team.
@TheDjci
@TheDjci 2 года назад
#91 by a mile
@thestifmyster1
@thestifmyster1 2 года назад
Players don’t even wear their numbers out of respect anyway so just send the banners up already.
@davidhernandez9985
@davidhernandez9985 2 года назад
If the RedWing's haven't gotten a coach yet why not GM., Stevie Yzerman he should consider it at least.?
@DR.Detroit11
@DR.Detroit11 2 года назад
Federov...
@samchaudhary7743
@samchaudhary7743 2 года назад
I love Fed, but Pav is the GOAT!
@bienvenedopendejos2453
@bienvenedopendejos2453 7 месяцев назад
Federov and it’s not even close.
@kieferclarkf1674
@kieferclarkf1674 2 года назад
Sergei not Sergi.
@kozmeetorez
@kozmeetorez Год назад
He didn't have a hard shot? Fedz shot it at 101, the same as OVI.
@SS-px3rs
@SS-px3rs 2 года назад
Fedorov > datsyuk
@mprieto57
@mprieto57 9 месяцев назад
Fedorov. Datsyuk was good, but he wasn’t Fedorov good.
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