Ah yes, abusing the guard AI's broken priorities. Clearly there was no way Overkill could've anticipated that that could be abused in such a way. *Distant printer noises.*
It's amazing how after so many years of payday I keep surprising myself with this game, I liked the strategy, bob serving as a distraction was the best haha
Thanks for participating, Kyro! Shame that we all died when Hector got tired of the timelock being paused and just walked out of the room to get rid of us. Surely this will be in the video! :p
@@Marcmb "sir, why are we not using this revolutionary new matter-replication tech to feed the hungry or produce infinite energy?" "Who do you think we are? The Payday Gang? We do war crimes here. Now get your minigun and suit up, the aforementioned crime gang has Dark Souls invaded our HQ."
"Oh man, this criminal broke out of those first four hundred handcuffs like they were nothing. Maybe the next one will hold him better. Wait, was that a pistol clicking?"
Dude, this was so creative and mind blowing! Good thing I never doubted you guys :) The second I see that iconic "However, what if?" you just know there is a way..
overkill should genuinely hire you all as play-testers for payday 3, the amount of knowledge of niche mechanics that you seem to possess is crazy, can’t wait to see what other “impossible” ecm heists get ecm rushed
Excellent thinking Jullez! I can see you perfectly understood the essence of these two videos when watching them :D In fact, the reason I uploaded the _solo juggling_ video _later_ than this rush, is because this one would be trivialized with that technique! So I wanted to showcase the cuffing loops beforehand haha :D
Hey mugoftoothpaste! That's part of PocoHUD, the HUD mod that I use. My modding video (in the description) has download links and install instructions for all my mods, if you're interested!
@@Marcmb also that glitch that happened to me on the cook off, it happened again with some friends. I don’t know how but it really useful. I would love to have on goat simulator heist.
@@Marcmb I didn’t happened only in Cook off. It happened on jewelry story death sentence one down ( my friend s thought it was easy in loud) I don’t know it on ps because they might have or not patch it, but it still on console.
This one is not so far from Counterfeit Stealth in terms of originality, not gonna lie Also, would it be more consistent in the "Betrayal" strategy to make one (or both) pager jugglers place Shaped Charges under them and tell one of them to blow themselves up when you will be in an escape zone?
Thank you very much, Miles! Glad you liked the new tricks, that's great to hear :D As for your suggestion, that might actually be better, yeah! Molotov ticks have a tiny bit of desync so both jugglers don't die at exactly the same frame, which causes problems. Trip mines might indeed solve that issue: I haven't used them too much for friendly fire so I don't know if they'll be perfectly synched, but it's definitely worth trying!
Hey jayden! The shotgun is called Locomotive 12G. I actually have a clip where I show all the weapon modifications: you can find it in my SAW BUILD video, which is linked in the description! Hope this helps :)
Hey Elani! That's part of the HUD that I use, which is PocoHUD3. If you want more details, my modding video in the description has all the details for this HUD!
I didn't have a doubt in my mind you would find some jank roundabout way to ECM rush this heist, that's why I voted it was easy to rush this in the community poll LMAO
Hmmm interesting! Usually when I ask, most comments tell me that the volume is a bit low, so I didn't think that would be an issue. I'll definitely consider it for the future though, if I ever have more uncuff spam! Thanks for the feedback, A Blue Thing!
@@ABlueThing Very true indeed. With things like this everyone has a different opinion; but I always try to adapt my volume levels based on the most popular opinion!
Wait, I don't follow 100% Why do you only need to juggle one pager? You've killed the other guards as well. Aren't they gonna ring? Edit: After rewatching it I saw you pointed at pagers used. However... When did you guys use it?
Hey T-Reye! Glad you asked, no worries :) The whole rush goes very fast because as soon as we go in we only have 20s to find the alarm and do a bunch of things, but basically here's how it goes: the 1st ECM that I place is a Tier 2 ECM. This means that it lasts for 25s only, and it doesn't block pagers: this allows us to answer the first few pagers easily, while I go to the alarm box by following its beeping sound. As soon as a 4th pager goes off, someone with Tier 3 ECMs will quickly deploy their ECM, overlapping with mine. This ensures that, as soon as we start juggling, there is only one pager that needs to be dealt with!
Haha! For more "educational" rushes I always make sure to add a section with detailed instructions and descriptions of the roles, but this one was more of a demonstration, so it's understandable that some details were hard to follow. Glad I could clear it up! :)
@@Marcmb I just imagine being in a lobby with you and 2 others and you all would just do all the objectives and are waiting at extraction while I'm still trying to find the hole in the fence :D
@@TReyeHD I could see that happening maybe yeah, haha! That's the reason why we always use the tree jump: that way we don't need to rely on the random holes / rocks to get through the gate!
Hey Semik! If you wanna find some lobbies to play, definitely join our Steam group! It's in the video description, and the group chat is very active :D
Haha I did think about that! It would've been a very funny option (or even kick them out, to give them no choice). But if possible I wanted them to get XP too :D
Hey MrAzfar! That's one of the features of my HUD, which is PocoHUD. If you would like to test it, I have a MODDING VIDEO in the description, which has download links, and install instructions.
Hey HatsOff! That's a bonus feature from my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD. If you're interested, you can find my MODDING VIDEO in the description, which has install instructions, and download links. Hope this helps! :D
@@HatsOffYT This HUD has been around for a while yup, it's one of the old ones :D It takes a while to look through all the options, but it's still getting frequent updates, so I recommend it if you like these features!
Maybe it is also possible to do the bag stratergy (where you hide the bag out of reach but in view) The one where the guard is constantly trying to get to a bag he cant reach.
Hey Symmetry! There are indeed some spots where you can use that trick, similar to Counterfeit. The main difficulty is finding a spot that can be seen by the guards inside, but not by the Murkies outside. Thus, we found the cuff approach to be more reliable for this heist :D
Hey Michal! That's in the normal version of the game. If you try to add a scope to your Locomotive, it's the only one that doesn't have a concealment penalty. Let me know if you can't find it! (I can give you the name later, when I'm in the game)
@@Marcmb no, this is the menu that you use with BOB to trigger the voice command, I made a mistake when typing the link, the correct menu I mean you use at 3:14
@@michalw0292 Oooh I see! I completely misunderstood :D As *@GVZ* said, that is PocoHUD. In the video description there's a link to my modding video, where all my mods are shown, with download links (including PocoHUD). Hope that helps!
Hey Nantiwat! That is part of my PocoHUD3 mod. If you're interested, my modding video in the description has all the download links, and install instructions. Hope that helps!
BODHI'S DOWN SOMEBODY HELP BODHI BODHI NEEDS HELP BODHI GOT DOWNED BODHI'S DOWN SOMEBODY HELP BODHI BODHI NEEDS HELP BODHI GOT DOWNED BODHI'S DOWN SOMEBODY HELP BODHI BODHI NEEDS HELP BODHI GOT DOWNED BODHI'S DOWN SOMEBODY HELP BODHI BODHI NEEDS HELP BODHI GOT DOWNED
@@TheXeioken That's very nice to hear, thanks! In the future I'll definitely have some videos with voiceover, although I'm not sure about exactly _when..._ !
The "Cuff and rescue" trick is funny and useful at the same time xd "Stop it!" "Somebody help Bodhi" "Don't move!" "Bodhi is downed!" "Freeze!" "Bodhi's downed!"
I remember seeing the poll for this, and my first thought was 'if Marc is mentioning it, then probably it can'. However I would assume it would have some weird gimmick (I commented this before it premiered)
The poll had some interesting results! Even more than the last poll I had done. Definitely some gimmicks will be attempted for this one: this time I included some spoilers into the timestamps!
Very evil! :D That would've worked in the same way yup, I wonder if you could make it work, or if 1 frame is simply not enough to trigger the escape...
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr I guess if the one not answering is fast enough he may be able to get into the escape zone before the one answering the pager needs to get kicked
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr Absolutely yup! You would kick them on that order so that the van only leaves as soon as "everyone" is on the escape. Or as *@Mauer* mentions, you could betray only one of the 2 jugglers, if you play it well. Someone actually brought to my attention that this might have been a better way to do that: with only one juggler left behind, you wouldn't have to worry about the small desync between molotov ticks, increasing the chance of success!
@@Marcmb You've tested that if you kick a heister who is answering a pager, it causes an alarm? Intuitively from a game design perspective I think it would make more sense if the pager time just continued counting down.
Haha! We didn't notice that we were this close. Otherwise, we probably would've stayed for those extra 5 :D Glad you liked this very unusual strat Tom, thank you very much!
When ya mentioned 'betrayal' I thought it was gonna involve a host kick on the one answering the pager but I'm not exactly sure how those work or if it'd work in this case.
Haha :D That would've been funny in a way, although very rude to the people getting kicked. We would need to test it, but it's likely that the timing would be the same as the attempt where we custodied them, with the van leaving a couple of frames before we can escape. Can't say for sure without testing though!
I would think for the betrayal, one will keep juggling but the person who's armor breaks, juggles to the next person and waits for there armor to Regen and once you get to the van, kill them And take a shot everytime Bain has said "bodhi needs help" "bodhi is downed" "somebody help bodhi"
Ooh that would've been a very smart strategy if I needed more time to run to the van! We opted to just use Yakuza instead, but something like your suggestion would theoretically give us as much time as needed to extend the juggling until the time of death.
Haha true! The timing should be very similar to the attempt where we custodied them (so the van might leave anyway...), but it might be a few frames faster and allow us to escape. It would be very rude though! :D
You could technically kick them, to get rid of them... it would be so rude, though! We tried custodying them instead (so they would get at least ~70% of their deserved XP reward) but it didn't work :(
Hey Joseph! Unfortunately that's not vanilla :( it's part of my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. If you're interested, in the description I have my modding video, which has download links (and install instructions) for this mod.
"hey do you think there's something up with joe? 2 different people are clearly answering his pager, and this has been going for the past minute or so" "nah its fine"
Hey Alex! That's part of PocoHUD3. My modding video (in the description) has a section where this mod is shown, with download link and install instructions!
Hey twingo! That's one of the many features of the PocoHUD mod. If you want to see some details / download links / install instructions, or my settings, it's all in my modding video, in the description! :)
Good point! I've played on controller sometimes, but I've never found a way to customize keybindings, so I would not be able to use such mods with a controller...
@@Marcmb I don't think those where up when it was premiering Certainly a creative solution, by the way, congrats! Do you think it could be possible to get more than one guard stuck cuffing the same heister, or is one the limit?
@@brylythhighlights4335 I modified them slightly, right after the premiere yup. Glad you liked the solution! :D As for the limit, I think it's actually just one... once the 2nd guard realizes that the heister is cuffed, he'll be able to start calling a bit earlier than the 1st guard. The timing is actually very tight: for any of the 64 cuff loops, if I had been just ~0.3-0.4s slower when uncuffing, the guard would already start his phone animation, failing the trick!
@@brylythhighlights4335 Very likely, yup! Looking at it in simple terms, it's the same as pager juggling, except that the guard doesn't need to die. Very powerful!
Marc, what about RPG or similar explosive instead of molotovs? They aren't affected as much as molotovs by animation desync and can kill host on pager and another guy with rpg in the same tick, while 2 others are in escape zone.
That's actually a very good suggestion, Danilkin! It would've solved the problem with molotov desync, because the blast should kill both players on the same frame. I'll check it out, out of curiosity :D
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