On Linux I enjoyed using Okular so much that I installed it on my windows drive as well. In general I found PDFs much easier to deal with on Linux, aside from digital signing which is annoying even on windows. The Adobe software feels cumbersome and slow to use, at work (where I use windows) I'll resort to opening pdfs in Microsoft Edge
I played with Okular a few times but never really used it. I didn't know you could install it on Windows. That might be a solution for me at work because I can't stand Adobe and Evince is not available in Windows. Thanks for the information.
I'm retired, so I haven't used Windows for a few years now. In Linux Mint I can scan a document as a pdf, can create a pdf from any document, and can print any pdf with no issues. Windows is just a bad memory.
Even though I live in Arch, Mint is a great distribution. It has everything you need installed by default. It just works out of the box. Unfortunately, my office is on Windows. My computer uses 4g of ram with no programs opened. Windows has all this stuff running in the background and it feels like it's spying on me. With AI, Windows is getting worse, much more intrusive than years ago.
I use either Evince or Atril to view PDF files. It works for me. I am so glad to get away from Adobe Reader which is what we had on Windows. Adobe was full of security holes and there was a risk of viruses. At least we don't have to deal with that on Linux.
@@linuxmench2118 Yes Atril is for the Mate desktop but works on other desktops as well the same as Evince does. It's bad luck that you have to use Windows at work. Windows 10 and 11 are horrible. It's sad that a lot of people including offices don't realise that they can just install a Linux distro like Linux Mint or Ubuntu and just use it. It works the same way as Windows and most of the software works. Also it saves money because Linux is free to use but Windows is not. With Windows you have to pay for every copy of Windows you install on each computer. Windows 11 is getting worse with the new update yet people still use it. I don't know why.
I casually mentioned to our tech support that I would like to make my computer into a Linux computer and he said don't do that. Even if I did, I would still have to log in to our cloud service which holds all our apps and info and the cloud service is Windows. I'm trying to convert my boss, but he's not interested.
Yes, but for at least 20 years I guess, you were already able to read, print and "whatever" you want with PDF files on Windows with a ton of different tools other than Adobe, like SumatraPDF or Foxit PDF-Reader (the early versions where better). There is no need to switch the OS because you don't like a specific bloatware, since the windows ecosystem has you covered with dozens of alternatives. That said, i's nice that capable PDF readers on Linux exist as well (not sure "evince" is among them), but it's always good to have options! Have a nice day! o)
@@linuxmench2118 A lot of places are like that. I remember before I had a computer I used to use the Library or the Internet cafe and they wouldn't let you change anything.I couldn't even install Firefox I had to use Internet Explorer. They weren't even using the latest version of Windows they still had XP and this was in 2009 when Windows 7 came out. When I bought my new laptop I was told they don't support Linux and it won't be covered with the year warrenty if I removed Windows. Though if Linux is working there is no problem but a lot of people don't understand that. If your boss wants to use Windows there is nothing you can do about that. A least you know that when you get home you got your own computer and you don't have to worry about Windows 10 or 11. And you can do what you want. From what I saw of Windows 11 when I first got my new laptop I hated it. It's not user friendly at all neither is Windows 10. If I had to use it I would feel very bad. Windows 7 was not so bad as you had the start menu but Windows 10 and 11 are just not the same. That's why I switched to Linux to get away from Windows 10 and 11.
I use Master PDF Editor for Linux and have been for a number of years. It is a very capable editor, however, it is proprietary software and requires a purchase for the full version. A free version is available for download, which used to add a watermark. I don't know if that is still the case.
When I was forced to switch to Linux due to installation requirements not matching my still working computer, I switched to okular for viewing PDFS and maybe fill forms. I wasn’t got happy with other viewers which were limiting on display the pdfs only. For some advanced editing I use the software PDF Studio under Linux which is proprietary and cost a one time fee. For those who are familiar with elder versions of Acrobat the interface will look familiar. A demo version is also available. Master PDF did not worked for me because I wasn’t able to format the text boxes the way I needed them.
Okular is another good pdf viewer that works in both Windows and Linux. I don't need to edit pdf's, just view and print them. I would never pay for one or use a proprietary viewer.
I'm allowed to install software on my Windows computer, but not on the Windows cloud service we use and that's where I spend most of my time. I installed Okular on the Windows hard drive and it's working great, much better than Adobe. I like Evince, but it's not available in Windows. Thanks for contributing to my channel.
@@linuxmench2118 there are some ways to run Linux apps on windows like WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) or a virtual machine. Even an X-Server can be installed under windows (I had to use it in my past at work). These could be options for you to run evince under windows, but could fail on your user rights on the Windows cloud service. Maybe the admin could set up an WSL, VM or X-Server there for you.
Our technician works for the cloud service and he's not receptive. I installed Thunderbird and Okular on my Windows hard drive. This enables me to bypass the cloud service for this particular aspect of my job and avoid using Adobe. I have several Linux virtual machines on my Windows computer and I can use them to log into the Windows cloud service. Okular is good, but it doesn't remember the current page print setting. I tried Atril and like it better than Okular because it remembers the current page print setting. It's similar to Evince. However, Atril is not available on Windows, as far as I can tell. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.
Yeah, It's a major peeve of my own. I have to read electrical schematic at least once a day and I pine for just a plain old acrobat reader of old. Like in the xp days and before. It's a program that seems so easy to make a simple one to just capture features that are needed by the mainstream user. I've used xreader and evince and they are both great. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome. Yes, it's not asking for too much to want a simple PDF reader without the bloat. I didn't talk about Okular in the video, but it's another lightweight PDF reader. It's really good and it works in Linux and Windows. After publishing the video, a viewer messaged me about it and I installed in my Windows system at work and it's great. Thanks for contributing to my channel.
it's for this ux/ui convenience that I moved to gnu/linux many years ago. gnome 2 bought me with it's simplicity and ease, and now I'm with mate desktop and I like to use atril for documents
I played with Mate three years ago, but never lived in it; however, it is a good DE. I'm not familiar with Atril. A few people have recommended it, so I'll have to check it out. Thanks for commenting.
I use Evince on my Pi, but it's too simple and slow even on the desktop. On the desktop I use Okular because it's the best PDF viewer there is. I do use the inverted color scheme because I like my eyeballs and don't want them exploding. I'm guessing you're not a programmer though, because you say you hardly ever look at PDF's at home. Nearly all the documentation I read is a PDF. And yeah, the open source viewers are so much better in many ways just for those tiny user interface tweaks. The Intel processor manual is 5072 pages long, so it really helps having that page memory. I do miss the days when they'd make it easy to get a dead tree edition.
You're correct in guessing I'm not a programmer. I'm a Linux hobbyist. I use Vim for altering my config files, nothing compared to programming. At work, the largest pdf I had to deal with was approximately 565 pages and I used Adobe. Lately, it's been getting heavier and more bloated. At work, I'm stuck with Windows. I didn't realize I could use a lightweight open source pdf app in Windows. After publishing this video, I discovered Okular was available for Windows and I installed it and used it today at the office. I'll have to try the inverted color scheme. Thanks for sharing the info.
I was hoping you were going provide some spergy gnu answer like use gs to rasterize each page of the pdf to an incrementing % file with number and then read that into an array to build a readable html pointing to each jpg or whatever as the src.
@@linuxmench2118 I was going to say Evince could be built for Windows, just that there was no demand for it given the choices there already are for that platform, but it seems it's already built: there's a package for it available via MSYS2. Okular is also available for Windows using their Store (damn...) or within MSYS2 as well. Talking of Evince in Windows, it's one hell of a download for something mediocre (compared to the others I mean, the print dialog it uses, for example, is the Windows one), since it's not packaged like other regular Windows applications (with an installer for it), I couldn't honestly recommend it knowing the alternatives there are.
I wouldn't try installing Evince for Windows because the developer didn't make it. At the moment, I'm using Okular in my Windows machine at work. Thanks for the info.
Let me start saying I am NOT a Windows nor an Adobe fan. Running Pop!_OS as my daily driver. But beating Adobe over this page stuff is a bit dihonest AFAIK. You can look for the pages you want to print and enter them in the pages field, seperated by comma’s… The way you present it is overly complicated IMHO….
Monthly, I have to go through a 500 page document. I might have to print 75 pages which are scattered throughout the document. I have to quickly see each page to know if it needs to be printed. If it does, I immediately print it. Following your method, I would have to quickly look at each page, write down the page numbers I want to print, and type in 75 page numbers with commas in the print menu hoping I didn’t miss any or miss type. Your suggestion is far more complicated than my method.
