PE Workshop 3 - VFR Flight KMYF-KRNM.mp4 

The airspace around Montgomery is pretty complicated and there is almost literally no place to circle that isn't controlled airspace. You've got Class B airspace all around you (including SFC to 10K for SAN to the south and SFC to 3200 for Miramar to the north), KMYF's control zone extends up to 2900' for five miles around the airport. I suppose you could fly out towards Mt. Soledad (VPSMS), carefully staying in the 100/48 shelf and circle/climb there, then head back -- but you'd have to climb above 2900 to avoid the KMYF Class D, or call them and ask for transit. If I doubted my ability to climb to 2400 before reaching the Gillespie control zone, I think I'd just ask Montgomery tower if they would coordinate a transit of the KSEE airspace with Gillespie tower. If they're not super-busy, I suspect they'd help out (or at least release you in plenty of time to call KSEE to coordinate your own transit).

Mark Hargrove thank you for your reply

Yep, he did. I didn't even realize I'd made that mistake until I reviewed the video. Left hand departure is more normal for that airport and that's what I was expecting -- which shows how easy it is to get into trouble! Usually, you'll get called out on things like that on PE, which may mean the controller also thought he'd give me a left downwind, and so wasn't surprised to see me fly that departure. Definitely a mistake though. Good catch!

Yeah, I'm sure he meant to give you the left downwind departure as you were departing a left runway. He spoke rather quickly as well. Really nice videos!

+Mark Hargrove Everytime I depart eastbound, ATC give me 28R and a right downwind departure. I use to ask "Eastbound departure, rightdownwind if possible".

I did deliberately ignore slant range -- it takes a bit of explanation, and at low altitude it's really not much of a factor. It's a real "thing" to be conscious of, though. At a fairly common VFR cruise altitude of 5500' you'll notice your DME distance as you cross over a VOR to still be about 1 mile because you actually are a mile away from it -- straight overhead! Instrument procedures that use DME distances account for slant range.

+AOW NAVY Agree ! Sometime (real) ATC even gave us Class Bravo Miramar Clearance without asking ! ;-)

yep it all depends on if they are "active" or igf they have any plane on the area

It's a great add-on, I really enjoy flying it. The version I have is from Flight1

Mark Hargrove Thanks Mark, it's definitely on my "to get" list. I'm saving to build a new FSX computer. If I may put in a request, I'd love to see a few tutorials on flying the Mustang and using the G1000. Anyway, keep the videos coming! I've learn a lot from you!

uri p I can't remember for sure -- it might be stock scenery, but it might also be MegaScenery Earth Southern California (I can't remember for sure when I installed it).

The Lowmein I do believe their general practice is to primarily hire current, retired, or senior ATC students. I also believe they have one or two controllers on staff who have been trained-up within the company -- but almost everybody is a professional controller.