We're liking the new technologies & design. Not sure about the battery lifespan or replacement costs. We always attempt to block cabinet contents to prevent falling out when opened after a day's drive. So having the doors open downward may be a plus. P. S. We're not too short & already I have to assist the wife to the rear of any shelf.
This is exactly what is needed in the RV industry. This specific unit is out of my price range but if it is well accepted it will filter down to the smaller RVs that will take advantage of at least some of the innovations. Heck, 5 years ago there were few 12V compressor fridges that came standard in RVs and now they are the rule not the exception.
Correct but they need to do some design changes before bringing this to market. It won't take long for the early adopters to question "why did they do it this way?" The murphy bed and upper cupboard doors are two examples; why change what's tried and true for the sake of being different?
I look forward to the SECOND actual production year of these RVs - even if they cost more. Because, they will have worked out some of the kinks, like the cabinets that open down, instead of up.
Vents? Fans? Window screens? I want the breeze and fresh air, not enclosed in a tube. Yes, it's got other awesome features, but how (dis)connected to nature will I feel?
Looks like a great concept. I love the fact that you can control it and essentially back it into very tight spaces. I showed the video to my wife who is 5 foot four and she said the doors on those cabinets would be a showstopper for her. They really need to have those doors open up towards the ceiling. I also wonder about the windows that go opaque how those might hold up overtime. Especially with an RV going down some of the very bumpy roads we have across this nation. I also wonder why you would have a black gray tank capacity that’s 23 gallons more than your water capacity. That just doesn’t seem to make sense to me. They should either be about the same capacity or the water capacity being a little bit more. All in all a great design, and hopefully other manufacturers will take notice.
I think the convenience of all electric/battery is masking the benefits of “hybrid” (electric and propane), especially during winter. Did you receive any specs about winter camping/temperature ranges for operability? Many LiFePO4 batteries have auto-cutoff for charging once the batteries are 32F and another cutoff for discharging at around -4F. One way to offset the temp drops are with battery heaters-either electric blankets or heat ducts from a furnace (usually propane powered). Did you get a sense of wall thickness/insulation? Seems to me that Imperial Outdoors line of Xplore trailers with -40F to 120F range of use are the best rigs out there both for deep winter and hot summer camping.
Since the electric drive train has regenerative braking, that can be used to heat the batteries too. The solar will still work while driving and the panels can power electric. This trailer does have an electric furnace which can send heated air across the batteries if designed to do that.
Great review Jason thanks! Very interesting and aesthetically pleasing unit, and of course the electric/towing features are next level. While a premium price, this is less than I was expecting, considering the price point of airstreams! Think the Pebble is definitely going to win over many who are considering an Airstream. Being shorter, that cabinet would be an issue for me (as others have mentioned) but love the office space than hides away under the Murphy bed, the dimmable windows, and the sleek styling inside and out. As others have said, this is what consumers (including us) have been wanting - more automotive inspiration and thoughtful styling and use of space.. Very interested to see how this develops, this is one to watch! Not needing a heavy duty truck to tow it is a huge advantage. And the trailer capabilities helping the towing vehicle are brilliant. Well done as always. Thanks Jason … and Pebble! (Now… how and where can we get on the list to try one of these out - with a Rivian or Lightning!? 😜 LOL) - cheers, Julie
Finally. A near perfect RV for a reasonable price. That is a lot of tech and being all electric is a great thing. Easy to troubleshoot. Looks like two distinct areas to work from too. Most of the time, both folks are working remote, so it is nice to see that there are the two areas available. I am digging this one. Wish it came out before the rate hikes!
@@ScubaSteveCanada The Murphy bed ia a brilliant idea and executed well. Ferees up tons of space and allows a huge work/ entertainment area not eaten up by a bed.
There obviously is a lot of thought put into this one. However the single axle is a deal breaker for me. I had a bad experience with a blow on I-10 east of El Paso. Was able to change the tire using plastic leveler blocks. After replacing that tire with the spare and driving for about an hour, I had another tire catastrophically fail. The only things left on the rim were frayed bits of sidewalls. Thankfully I was able to carry on and wasn’t stranded on I-10 after dark. This was on a Airstream Classic. So glad I had two axles. At any price I would not buy a trailer with one axle and especially a “high end” one like this. Fit and finish is nice, but the substrate has to support everything. BTW - I also do not understand the drop down doors on upper cabinets. A lot of women will be doing food prep along side all those men who will also chop veggies in the kitchen. 😉
This looks really awesome. Especially for those of us who want a workspace but don't want to have to put down the dinette to sleep every night and reset it to work in the morning. We were considering upgrading to an airstream but now... That being said, I would like to see the storage options or will i have to throw everything in the truck bed still?
At 25' I would prefer to have a double axle so that when a tire fails I have some safety built in. Perhaps the company has a means to compensate for this?
Yes yes yes! If I could afford it. I can’t, but I think it’s worth it… To not have to handle hitching the heavy sway control bars, to be able to get it backed in or parked easily would be a dream come true especially for solo older travelers.
The concept and design is super clever, but for a few items: i) the interior feels very cold and could benefit from a bit more plushness and less plastic looking, shiny surface; ii) the drop down upper cabinet doors would likely be an issue for someone of lesser height, like me, and I don’t want to climb on a step stool to gat my dishes and snacks after paying this much for a trailer, iii) are there screens on the windows that open. I didn’t see one, and only one window appeared to open; iv) I’d prefer windows that blackout rather than simply go opaque, as light can still get in at night and forms can still be seen from the outside, which is a bit embarrassing if we want to enjoy a private moment with a partner or while in the bathroom.
Exciting product! Great video! Thanks for your hard work. While the power will last a week, no way will a 50g grey/black tank last 3 days with my crew. How confident are you in the build quality on the Alaska Highway? It would be fun to stress test it!
As a 5 foot tall person, those drop down cabinet doors won't work. Did I miss the microwave? I would buy this rig if it was available today. Except for the cabinet doors.
I like this electric Rv. It has some potential. I love the Murphy bed. Love that huge dinette. Love how there is no shades. Just a button to push. Hope when it goes to market that it will sell. Thank you Jason for showing the new Pebble Flow electric Rv. It’s really nice.
I'm super excited about this new trailer, we just bought a new Airstream so I'm not in the market, but I thinks it's a great addition to the RV world!!
Wow! Just take my money! I’ve been hunting for something to tow with my midsize SUV and avoid having to buy a dedicated tow vehicle. For my solo self, this could easily be a full-time rig. Plus it’s sustainable! Thanks for tracking this down.
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As you mentioned, this is a prototype and like automotive prototypes, it has some cool features but really isn't designed for 90%+ of current users. I agree that it is definitely a competitor to Airstream in terms of price and design, but even after recently growth, Airstream is only the top 10% of the towable market, so now you'll have two companies fighting for 10% total market share. The vast majority of buyers of towable RVs are not anywhere near that price point, and the buyers who are will typically be looking at the Class A motorhome segment. If, as you mention, people might be interested because they "don't want to buy a bigger, more expensive truck", why would they spend more than the most expensive pickup on a $100K+ trailer?? And I can't imagine what the repair bill is if you have to replace a pane of that 'capacitive' glass on the interior or exterior?? However, ultimately, there is probably enough people that have unlimited funds that can keep a niche company like Pebble going since they're probably never going to be a 'high-volume' mfg. As for specific features, there are a lot of cool features on the RV, but the storage capacity is significantly lacking. All that "open interior space" is because there are limited cabinets and you mentioned that there is a "full pass-thru compartment" but did not show it. Did they not show the "basement" storage because it's minimal or very narrow, likely due to the undercarriage being dominated by the batteries and water/wastewater storage tanks? And speaking of water/wastewater, you mentioned that the mfg said the prototype can go "about a week off-grid" on one charge. However, electricity is rarely the limiting factor to off-grid living, especially with the options of expanded solar or generators. The biggest limitation(s) to time camping 'off-grid' is typically freshwater and wastewater capacity. With a 37-gallon freshwater tank and a 50-gallon "combo" wastewater tank, you'll be lucky to make it a week off-grid if there is more than one person in the trailer or unless you're practicing maximum water conservation. Cool idea with some neat features (and I'm all for RV mfgs "thinking outside of the box" of traditional RV design) but Pebble has a long way to go from "prototype" to something that is widely usable by a large segment of the towable RV buyers...and especially at a reasonably affordable price! Most of all, I'm disappointed that this video sounded like an advertisement instead of an unbiased review of pros and cons of the product. I've come to expect more from your channel, especially since you typically present yourself as a source of "RV Industry News".
I like it! Love the concepts presented and believe many of the axle technologies would be great across the industry. I don’t expect to see these in state park campgrounds next year, but hope that these will be ready by 2025. I would seriously consider looking at one if we wanted to have a weekend getaway trailer. Cool concept.
This trailer is impressive. I don't think short people can get to the kitchen cabinets, though. The hinge needs to be at the top. I love the removable 2-burner induction stove, and also the Murphy bed that doesn't fold. Mostly I'm impressed with the magic hitch, though.
oooh, oooh - the white space behind the desk also looks like the perfect screen for a projector. Finally someone who doesn't have RV industry experience making an RV because we've seen how that industry experience is more like a chain around their ankles than a source of any innovation whatsoever.
That's because North America has not followed the lead of the European Caravan designers and their innovations. OK, the crappy cassette toilet was adopted but that's for weekend warriors.
That was a nice short review, and certainly gives food for thought. It would be pretty easy to change the way the doors work on those cabinets, and to put a more suitable tire on the front. Overall it seems like a pretty good idea to me, and would overcome the range anxiety issue when towing with an EV. However, though a smaller vehicle might not have to do all the pulling, its axles would still have to support the hitch weight just like with any other RV, unless they can find a way to keep the front wheel deployed and help support the weight. My F150 can only go to 500lb without a WDH, and its payload is 1363lb, so not much would be left after hooking up the Pebble. This might be a good match for bigger EVs like the Lightening or Rivian. It is shockingly expensive though. Perhaps there will be a good rental market for it, or it might be permanently installed in high-end RV parks like I have seen for Airstreams.
Well it’s going in the right direction for sure. Good to see some new ideas coming along. When you think of it. It’s all power it moves it self and helps you tow. For what it is it’s not to expensive. When airstream is more no power. It is for sure a good option. 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦
I love it.... That is a fine-looking RV and like you I am really surprised by the cost, I would have expected it to be 150k or more. Great review- Kyle
Gorgeous, and so tempting, but... Where is the awning that it deploys? Is there a screen door? Window screens? Do other windows open? I'm guessing that lighting is the problem this is solving by swinging cabinet doors down. But at 5'4" there's no way I could use these upper cabinets regularly. And where is the rest of the storage for hanging clothes, shoes, etc? Does the dinette have storage in the benches, or is that all pass-thru? Also, my Subaru Ascent can only tow 5000, so unless the drive train on this makes up the difference, I'll stick with my regular 19ft with screens for the breezes.
Very cool! Definitely a consideration of looking at a high end small trailer. Wait, did I miss the review of storage? Exterior storage? Type of toilet?
I custom upgraded my RV to hold 10kWh of LFP and 900W solar, and that's considered a lot by today's standards, well, used to. This thing just made dinosaurs out of not just Airstreams, but every production RV out there.
I’m curious about how they are planning to heat and cool the trailer. Heat pump? How about storage space? Other than the cabinet doors and the price, I like it. I can foresee neighbors being scarred when people forget to activate the capacitive glass before changing clothes. 😂
It's an automotive air conditioner and electric heater. They didn't like any of the air conditioners offered by the RV industry for some reason.... lol
Finally a modern RV in the states. A bonus is the back up house battery component and the full week boondocking capacity (unsurpassed). To those missing the slide and roof vents - after multiple catastrophes with our new Lance, I will pass on the slides and roof vents. This appears to be built for reliability. Plus they have large windows to open. Part of the user experience is not having to fix your RV every time you return home from a trip. If it can accomplish that, I will consider shelling out $120k. Compliments to the designers.
I'm curious. How well insulated is it? Could it work for winter camping or as a tiny home? I am currently revamping a 40 year-old class C to solar and full-time living.
I love the concept and do hope other manufacturers follow, however, it’s unlikely they will due to the narrow market with a premium price tag. Also most RV manufacturers have little interest in producing a high quality product. Sure it’s possible that if there’s enough demand the price could come down. It’s a good start. It’s not totally clear how much natural light will come in on the driver side. As Airstream owners we love how open and bright they are. If you mentioned an exhaust fan or skylights I missed it. I don’t like the overhead cabinets with the downward opening doors. A shorter person would experience difficulty reaching into them.
This would be fantastic for a couple. It has a lot of features including shade-free windows and easy towing. The only drawback I can see is the glass bathroom, door. Just because of that, I don't think it would be a family unit
I want one. I am all electric now, towing behind a Tesla X. Big issue: why not a gray water tank. Really, really, needs to have separate gray and black water tanks.
I think that a combined black water tank and gray water tank is a mistake. Gray water can easily consume all of the available volume, necessitating dumping earlier and more often than usual.
Storage, fridge, sleeping area, washer/dryer are some of the weakest in this very cool RV. I would add a roof top tent, consider a 32ft VR so to have rooms for those I mentioned. You can say it sleeps 4, but if I have a boy and a girl who don't sleep together, a 3rd bed is required. I would make the queen bed drop down instead of swing down. More room when it is out of sight. 25ft is too small already. Add options for two bund beds in the front and rooftop tent. More storage inside and outside are a must. On the outside, table folded up becomes part of the exterior wall, and folded down and it becomes a builtin table. Builtin D-ring hooks on the exterior for rope...tarf...on the I terror, more USB C on all walls. The interior is missing a solar and TV area. The dinette area is not 100% as comfortable as a solar.
This is more of what I am looking for. I have been looking at a Bowlus that can also be off grid (%100 of the time) but is pricier and standing in one felt smallish. I like the light airiness and is a strong consideration for all of it's design ideas. I would like to know more of it's construction though, frame and walls and the insulation and how much of a 4 or 3 season unit it is. And why is it only about 7 days off grid? Is it about having to empty the tanks or some other limitation?
Looks like a doable concept. My only comment right now is with the doors on the overhead compartments. They should be opening up instead of down. With them opening down they are going to be prone to breakage. They are likely to have something heavy set on them or someone is going to lean, or pull down, on them. Think about a short person trying to reach up into them.
I prefer to purchase a Pebble Flow in the future and pay for the powered axel instead of having to do it manually but would like to wait until they come out with a slightly bigger model. However, those cabinet doors need to open up ward or be a sliding door making it easier.
The battery will become a huge issue over time and the resell value will drop significantly. Replacement cost of the battery will be prohibitive and make the trailer worthless. I also would not want to sleep on a lithium battery of that size, in the event of fire, that trailer would go up in seconds. There is also no way I would pull a trailer with a drive axle. A failure would cause significant damage to the tow vehicle, create a danger on the road, and brick the entire trailer with it being unable to move. I like the idea of the trailer with more automotive design, but I would use about 200ah of lithium batteries and a propane generator. It would cost way less and be far more reliable.
What happens when the batteries operating the trailer run out of juice? Does the braking mechanism stop operating? Can it still be towed like a normal trailer?
I saw their video last week. I don't have $110,000, but would it work for my tiny Fiat 500e? It too is electric! You did a better introduction video than the manufacturer!
It would require a 6000 pound tow rating, so my ID.4 would not work either. With that weight you would need a Jeep Grand Cherokee, or a Rivian R1S, or a pickup. $110k is the price without the drive motors. Adding them gets you to $125k.
@@kenmcclow8963, I think I will keep my tent! Going camping 🏕️ on Friday. It's almost 80F 10/27 this weekend near Philadelphia. A County Park is only $15 a night. On a different note, EcoFlow has their 1kw Delta 2 and a 1kw extra battery for less than $1100 this weekend.
I would love for them to give me one for free. I would use it like crazy for me and my daughters. Single father here definitely would make lots of great memories with his daughters. I would upload videos weekly using this.
The Peeble travel trailer has the appearance of what I would imagine an Airstream would look like in the 23rd century. I wonder though if the Peeble will be considered a travel trailer or treated as a motor home for licensing purposes? After all with a motorized axle, I could see the local DMV office having some confusion over how to issue a license plate for the Peeble. But then again, it isn’t meant to be driven on the road (as it is a towed trailer) so it seems it would be tagged as a travel trailer.
Yes, one of the two co-owners of this company said in an interview he's had 3 years of Pandemic camping experience. Way less than I would expect for someone trying to make things better in the industry. Also, that small of a battery pack won't last long heating water, the interior, and cooking. My 3500Wh set up lasts me two days without charging and that's without running an AC.
Few of questions here.... 1. This appears to be structured to have a 3 sided (passenger side, front and back) livable space but has windows on the opposite side (driver side). Can you access that side, and if not, why or what is the purpose of the driver side windows on this RV? 2. Is the shower area cramped or spacious enough to shower without having to bang elbows around when showering? 3. What about the AC/heating system? Did I miss something here about the system? 4. Saw no TV, or anything about internet, entertainment, or electronic control systems? Nice RV but still have too many questions.
Already paid my 500 bucks. This is as revolutionary as the airstream was many years ago. A new standard has been set, on paper ( or video). Let’s see if and when I can take possession. Except for these cabinet doors and the small wheel in front, I could not find anything wrong with this trailer but lets wait till we see the final rendition. As Elon said, the design is one thing , scaling up production is another…..
Is it "garageable"? Wondering about the height. Airstream is supposed to be coming out with one that is. Wasn't Airstream working on the remote maneuvering too? Saw that at the Tampa show a couple of years ago.
