PRE-ORDER YOURS TODAY !!!!! *PECRON* (website) www.pecron.com/#ref=145 Save extra 5% with promo code *GOGREEN* P.S. Forget that the Ac500 can have 6 batteries for 18,000wh (36,000wh for 2), so that is still a larger system than this one.
I’m not sure how you would use that 30 amp charging cable. Most household outlets are rated at 20 amps. I guess if needed you could have an electrician install a 30 amp outlet but I’m not sure why you would need to charge it that fast. Plus charging that fast would shorten your battery life.
I'm sure this was discussed by now, but in the Settings, there ARE discharge and charge restrictions so you can for example, charge to 90% and discharge to 20%.
It would be nice if they sent you one Bob. I think you would do more justice to this particular brand then any channel out there. Your going to put hours and hours of video on this while the people who will get it for nothing will give it 20 minutes at most. I have put up more then 5 grand towards these systems because of your hours and hours of work on them. I'll just keep rooting for you Bob and hope pecron does the right thing. Great video as always thanks for the heads up.
We would do many videos on this system, and we really enjoy this technology and making videos to help people learn this stuff. :) P.S. Fingers crossed that we are picked to get one.
Just ordered it with 2 battery packs using the promo code. This is an amazing deal! Thank you for the review. I saw your review and knew it was worth buying right after another hour of research.
I think I'll wait a while to order this and the expansion batteries, maybe a year. Let them work out the bugs & glitches and are inherent in new systems. I have the E2000LFP w/ both batteries and it performs fantastic running a fridge, freezer, and de-humidifier in my basement 24/7 on solar. Specs look great for the E3600. I hope you will do a review on it when you get one.
Hello, Pecron states this E3600LFP can use 4 expansion batteries. I'm wondering if combining two e3600lfps, to get 240v, would allow 8 expansion batteries (if someone had so much money they didn't know what to do with it today 😂)?
Yes, you can hook up 4 batteries to each e3600lfp :) That will give you 30,000wh of battery capacity to use at 240v (4 batteries each + main is 15,000wh each)) P.S. That is 1/3 of the power that we are aiming at for our dream system :) (100,000wh) (aka BIG BOY TOYS) YEAH BUDDY !!!!! P.P.S. if we had 3 x e3600lfp, we could almost be there and use them independently for 90,000wh P.P.P.S. Now, we just have to win the lottery to raise those kinds of bucks to buy 3 of them....LOL P.P.P.P.S. You g any good lotto numbers if your head for lucky numbers......LOL :)
Me again with another off subject, I have 2 off the brick chaargers for my E2000LPF but I amgoing to purchase when they come in an E3600LPF, is there adapters or apapter parts that will connect these bricks from aviation to the new anderson input ports, I know the 3600 comes with the cables thsst support standard wall plugs and 30 amp but I like options if needed
The e3600lfp does not have anderson inputs, It does have xt-60 inputs. You would have to make your own cables, we have not seen any adapters for sale yet :(
Sure can :) www.harborfreight.com/18-in-x-12-in-1000-lb-capacity-hardwood-dolly-58312.html We just bought another one this week for only $9.99 (Look for a coupon on harbor freight's coupon page) P.S. Thank you for being a part of the scriber family :)
After watching this video and the one with the manual and thinking about the changes. I am thinking that they will stop producing the E2000LFP within a year. I would not be surprised if they stopped all the 24V products. The E3000 had 2 to 3 years production. I could be wrong. I am also wondering what changes will come with the next one they release in this size or larger. I am giving it a year for the new product. This tech is changing fast right now. Kinda reminds me of the early years of computers. Part of me is trying to figure out how I could make room for a system like this along with the E3000 and E2000LFP I have. I am for sure I would need to come up with a different method of charging a larger system like this. Having to haul this in and out of the house and shed (6 panels are on the shed along with two ground mounted panels) would be a major pain due to having five pieces (base plus 4 batteries). Taking the loss of using the smaller units to charge a system like this might be worth it.
Yep, seems like the 48v systems are where they are going to.... We still love our e2000lfp and will continue to use it until it does not work anymore. our plan so far is... e3600lfp (run the wholes workshop) (15,000wh) e2000lfp (run the whole rv) (8,000wh) e1500lfp (portable for outside stuff and events) (1,500wh)
@@RamblinBobReviews I plan to use my units as long as I can. At least try to make them worth having and paying for themselves some. They work great and do what I have used them for so far. So far I have only been able to use them for lights during a power outage. Both times it only lasted 20-30 mins. It was getting close on the computer UPS needing to be hooked up to keep the computer working.
One thing that solar power has taught us, It is not how much power you have, it is how you use that power. 1. Lights are all low power draw led now. 2. We also found the lenovo cabon X1 series laptops (Uses as low as 6 watts up to 30 watts for I-7 10710u) (That is a 10th gen I-7 chip, A lot of power for a laptop) 3. Freezers that are coffin/trunk style (much better on power) 4. USB style ceiling fans (uses only 6 watts) 5. 90% of my tools are dewalt 20v (stored power in their own batteries for an emergency) With those items, we could have a power outage with a smaller power station (2,000 watts) and last a whole day now :)
@@RamblinBobReviews Oh how true. I saw a video on RU-vid of a guy (The 8-Bit Guy) (video title "Big Solar Test - 24 Hours without power") in Texas that had a good size setup with panels (two groups) (3.555 kwh and 1.6 kwh and 400 watt portable panel) and Bluetti batteries (6 KWH and not sure of studio batteries size). I forget how much storage he had but it was several KWHs. He had the batteries connected to a emergency panel for a studio and a separate unit for other areas. He tried going 24 hours with no electricity on a 107 degree day to see if he was ready. He used two window AC units and a EcoFlow Wave 2 Solar Battery Powered Portable Air Conditioner to cool select rooms. He did ok during the day. The rooms did not stay as cool as he was hoping but ok. He ran out of stored power during the night. He stopped at 17 hours. Thinking he could have gone maybe 4 to 5 more hours just cooling the bedroom. But wife got home about midnight .He did not make 24 hours. The big usage was the AC units. Some good lessons in the video. He did have some panels on his fence using metal brackets he made. You have to plan every thing out. In thinking about what I would do and what to run, I have learned a few things about how long the batteries / units would last. When you have a all electric house the big concerns are heat and AC and that takes a lot or power.
Hi Bob I have a few questions: 1) what do they mean “bidirectional” PSW inverter? 2) can this unit be upgraded via Wi-Fi updates to fix bugs? 3) how would you use the 3,200 watt charging cable? Doesn’t that exceed household current of 1800/2400 watts? When would you be able to input 3200 watts from AC? 4) they say Anderson port but did they mean xt-60 port? Also, it looks like they have a deal on the Perron 1500. Did they upgrade that one as well? Maybe you should do a separate video on that one. Thanks!
Thank you for the comment :) 1. The ac inverter is used both ways for charging and discharging the system :) 2. The app is used for any firmware updates if they have any :) 3. 3,200 watts is huge so you would need a more powerful outlet than the normal house outlet :) 4. That is an XT-60 port P.S. We have done many videos on the e1500lfp system already :) *we are on "update 10" already on the channel :)
@@RamblinBobReviews thanks Bob! If scroll down the ad for the 3600 it says something about “preordering” the 1500 for $200 off but I think it’s just a mistake by Pecron. I see that the 1500 is actually on sale for an even better price elsewhere on their website.
These companies always make mistakes on the website page, it is frustrating for sure. The cheapest that we have seen the e1500lfp was $699 (now it is $759 on the website) *Sometimes these companies will have a sale and forget to update all the website pages with the correct information :( P.S. Just sent them a message to update the listing to XT-60 ports for the solar. (thank you for that heads up on that) P.P.S. The scriber family to the rescue :)
@@Jasonoid That is what we were thinking as well.. I really liked the AC300 ($10,000 full system) 12,000wh Then i really liked the AC500 ($15,000) full system) 18,000wh But now the e3600lfp is only ($5,500 full system) 15,000wh And since we never use the power of that AC500 (5,000 watts, 10,000 surge) Saving almost $10,000 is amazing for that amount of watt hours !!!!! P.S. HOLY CRAPZILLA !!!!!
It’s nice that Pecron released a unit with ability to hook up to 240v. Hopefully they will announce soon the details about 240v union box and when this would become available.
But…. With 240 volt capability now it opens up an entire new world of possibilities. Whole home back-up! Even the potential to go off grid with enough solar.
Hey Bob whats taking so long for e3600 to ship put? Is their problems with the machine? I see reviewers got one. Is their any time soon, are they updating people who have ordered one?
Just talked to pecron tonight, our order should be at the warehouse by this weekend and hopefully ready to ship out :) They had a ton of sales for this thing, so our order was in the 3rd batch :( P.S. But we just placed an order tonight for 2 more ep3000 batteries, that means that we will have the FULL e3600lfp (15,360wh) power station.. P.P.S. We can not wait until this system comes, we have been waiting for a long time. Hope that it is good as people say it is :)
@@RamblinBobReviewsim not in a hurry. I uave a 2000 with two exp batteries that handles 80% of pir off grid needs (we sacrifice) and the 1500 is out more portable unit
You know I made the mistake of ordering e2000lfp on per order im honestly going to wait and see if any bugs pop up plus price will probably go down as others have to
Hey Bob. And Mrs ramble ..I'm stoked about the release!!!!☯️💪☯️💪☯️💪And will some how come up with enough to purchase the 3600 lfp as well❤..It will be an amazing upgrade from my 2000 lfp🫡☕..
Looks to be an interesting product. I was considering another EP3000 but I will have to think about that. Also, off topic...has anyone had issues with their 330 W solar pecron panels? I noticed today that in full sun the EP3000 was showing negative amps even though the 330 W panels were connected. I checked the lines at the panels and also at the generator and the clamp on amp meter was showing 0 amps. Thanks
@@RamblinBobReviews After some back and forth with Pecron it seems the issue isn't the panels but the EP3000. It is taking cascading charging from the host but isn't accepting DC charging. I'm waiting for them to give me a solution(s)
@@RamblinBobReviews Sadly it's not. I received and email from Pecron and they want me to ship it back to them (at my expense). It's under warranty so at least my only out of pocket is shipping.
Thanks for the video. It seems like a nice system. It looks like you have to turn the expansion batteries the other way (battery connectors on the right side) as opposed to the E1500LFP (battery connectors on the right side). I like the move away from the aviation ports for solar input. The EP3000 battery pack still has the aviation style plug for input. I wonder if they will add in a new connector or if there is an adapter cord available.
Yes, they are on the right side of the system now. Also very much like moving away from the 5 pin aviation ports, XT-60 connectors can be found almost anywhere :) I have a feeling they will make people buy the charging bricks separate if they want to charge through the batteries :( (just my guess)
Still, no one's put this unit thru testing yet on YT. Pecron has a history of questionable customer service. I own an E1500LFP + 2 batteries, really like it and all's well. But i wont buy this upgrade till we watch several reviews. Jasonoid said he had one but that was several weeks ago. May have to wait for the black Friday, cyber monday or Christmas time price drops if this offer ends b4 some posts a review. Oh well. ❤
We were so upset when they went to the 48v system instead, but in the long run, the 48v system is better :( But we still love our e2000lfp & 2 eb3000's :)
man ill tell you maybe if all these power boxes where not 500 and above i could afford one my parents are tossing me out of the only place i have ever been and im building a camper van but all these boxes are so over priced and break in three months of use its just crazy to me the way the world is now days peace love and light to all
Ok Bob thanks the information. So if i ordered one now will ship out now or will it be in another batch and ship in late sept earlier oct, what do think?
@vincenttony81 Just saw this on pecron's website for the e3600lfp :) Description.... Already arrived at the warehouse and can be shipped quickly. Dring this period, buyer can still enjoy the sale price and the free 30A charing cable!
Since each E3600LFP can support 4EBs for 15kWh, a pair of E3600LFPs with the 240V box would be a 30.6kWh 240V system! That's whole home right there! Agreed their surge kinda sucks. My E2000LFP can't support my gas dryer starting up while my 1200W power station can. As a whole home system, surge is important also, so hopefully they've improved their surge circuitry. Nice to the covers back too. I like them on my E2000LFP.
Have a slightly off-topic question. How do you manage your solar panels and various solar generators? Do you just split up all the wiring depending on the solar generator/battery? Have you considered adding a controller/MPPT before the built in ones on pecron for example?
We have 4 arrays right now.....could change at any time....LOL 800 watts 800 watts 800 watts 600 watts So we can charge 4 different power stations at any given time, or plug in multiples in different ports of 1 or 2 larger power stations. note: The key for us is to have the most useful arrays, and to keep the voltage low enough on some arrays to be able to use most or all of the different power stations at the same time :)
They have promised me that the 3600 will not cause LED bulb flicker. Both of my brand new 1500's back in Dec. caused flicker in all my 100's of home LED bulbs. My Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra does not cause any LED bulb flicker so I believe the problem does not exist in my home electrical system. I've pre-ordered my e3600 and am keeping my fingers crossed.
Yeah, Led's are weird, some cheap ones flicker and some pricey ones flicker. It is all about the kind of flicker rate and diode they used with making them. Led's are awesome and pain in the butt at the same time...LOL P.S. You can see all led lights flicker through cameras when you film if you look close.
Now the EP3000 makes sense. It never really fit correctly with the E1500 LFP. it was built for this E3600 because it fits perfectly underneath it. The connection cables though need to be longer.
The batteries style was built for the e2000lfp, and since the e1500lfp had less batteries inside, that is what made it look weird. glad that the e3600lfp will fit them perfect again :)
Two of them connected with that split phase box together gives it split phase 240 volt capability. With that setup it can be used as a whole home backup and run every load including 240 volt HVAC systems, stoves/ranges and clothes dryers.
@ramblinBobReviews I have a question, not sure if you have addressed or not. When I use my 1500LFP in UPS mode with solar input attached, will it use that solar input and pass it through? Like if the load is 1000w and I have 400w solar coming in through DC, will it only use 600w AC? edit: assuming the battery is 100% and in UPS mode.
Solar acts the same as the grid, but does not have the UPS Power will pass through to the items used and also charge the battery When you have the UPS from the grid, The energy goes to the items used and what is left over to the battery so yes, using 1,00 watts (-400 watts from solar) = 600 watts from the grid :)
@@RamblinBobReviews thanks for responding, i did a quick test today. It looks like you are correct when the battert is not 100%. Looks like once the pack hits 100% in UPS it just passes AC power directly through. Pretty cool still, I wish the app/system had the ability to turn AC input off as a software switch or atleast talk with other systems. Would really like it get 1500lfp into Home Assistant. Application would be powering a window AC unit at night and switching AC input on if the battery pack hits 15%. Still great product at the price point in my book. Ability to limit AC input to like 400w would be another great feature.
Pecron is getting better and adding bnew features to their products, it is still a budget brand, so let's hope that they add even more features to the future power stations. having things like auto off and controlled charging cut-off would be great. :)
