the infamous Shi-Mari sleepover resulted in one of the longest oversleeping-and-late-for-stream events in Holohistory, iirc. it trended on Twitter and Fubuki did an impromptu running commentary stream until they woke up and Shion tweeted.
And the fact one of the members had to call them multiple times to get them on, and marine been cockblock by shion pretending nothing happened is the most epic.
I know you’re joking but let me be the party pooper, just in case. Shion’s been getting sleeping problems for a while (around 1-2 years now). Apparently it’s hard for Shion to try falling asleep, she suffers from insomnia regularly and has quite a lot of nightmares recently. Not to mention she’s under stress rn. So waking up after one alarm is rather alarming to her.
@@imaforceanature7297 her first tcg stream, her npc beating game stream, post-aqua graduation stream and literally the ShioPeko stream where this clip came from. It was around late 2021-2022 that her nightmare problem/insomnia became severe. For other health problems, she told them on twitter or through member post.
Honestly always adored Matsuri for just being real. She maybe be crazy but that realness is so legit. Also, a trip between all of them sounds really nice!
pekora... the straightest of few straight single member of hololive can't comprehend this thing, she might be a war criminal but deep down she is a pure hearted rabbit
@@Paveway-chan Sorry to burst your bubble king, but a vast majority of your favorite vtubers are as vanilla straight as they can be. The Yuri stuff is just mainly bait for the audience, it's quite a common thing in Idol culture.
@@TierHarribelimportant to also pay attention when your fav female vtuber outright states or implies they aren't straight. Not just in hololive btw. Matsuri, Ollie, and Nerissa.
@@xanhapple working person in japan here: not only is looked down upon, many places puts unofficial rules(unofficial because if im not mistaken it does count as power harassment by the law) just to separate couples that work in the same company or even worse, when its between 2 separated companies that works in cooperation. For example, changing your working shift times or work days (in case the place also works on weekends) just to make it more difficult for them to see each other. so its common to keep the relationship as a secret until you officially get married. They even look down upon you for using dating apps(its not rare to use blurred or fake name and photos on dating apps just to avoid coworkers from finding you there). i heard in korea its even worse(but have no evidence on that one, only heard from friends), where they would straight up tell college students and newly hired people to end their already ongoing relationship so they have time to only dedicate towards study/work.
when i started dating my GF, my company would always keep remembering me to keep it down and not tell anyone else so the relationship could not be used as a way to make things difficult between the 2 companies.
In all seriousness tho, (speaking as someone who's in a same situation as matsuri) it was really brave for Matsuri to confess like that. Imagine the courage she had to gather, Dang.
@xxkildarxx at some point you need closure, just for yourself personally. Even if you know it won't work out, or you never had a chance, it's still best to confess, just to get it out of your system and make it clear to your hormones that nothing will be happening.
@@flowerdolphin5648 No judgment either way on saying it out loud. Just saying that brave does not seem like the right word for it. Especially two years later and in a "public" setting.
Bro there has to be a limit bruh! I would feel uncomfortable too! No matter how cute she looks irl, don’t sniff, kiss or touch people that you don’t know very well! Especially the introverts 🤣
I think Matsuri is the type who falls in love very easily. She’s talked on stream before about it, also that she is bisexual and has dated both genders in the past. To me it’s really not surprising that she’d end up falling in love with a coworker (and actually it’s happened twice that we know of; the other time was with Luna)
@@tysonfontanez thought it was like ultra-pansexual, like didn't she once say it didn't need to be human or a flesh and blood organism or am i remembering it wrong
@@UnkTesla they interact from time to time, but yeahm when that happened Luna was actually willing, but Matsuri thinked that if something happened in their relation, it would affect Holo
@@SleepyClipper-q6wfrom what I remember early on matsuri befriended Luna bc Luna used to be a loner but when matsuri connected with her she really liked Luna and so did Luna but someone broke a promise I think and it affected their relationship no longer being lovey lovey they don’t really interact but they’re not in bad terms with each other
Shion continues to rizz with out even trying. Shion's victims, Matsuri, Gura, Marine, and Pekora (sort of) I remember years ago Matsuri saying in a stream that liking Shion was difficult because she was too distant for her. xD Also poor Marine can't catch a break.
Well, I think Pekora is really different from Marine and Matsuri. And you rightfully wrote sort of. Pekora for Shion will be like Aqua, a very close friend with out any romantic and sexual stuff.
Was about to comment this but you guys know! She feels like a sis/homie/comrade to shion now that aqua is chilling outside of hololive! Now we just need ayame in this duo lol!
Yeah some people are just like that, could be because of attachment trauma (more common) or just how their personality is. But usually that also means they're the kind of person that gets into relationships often and those relationships don't last long or they're rocky. That's just what I've observed anyways.
god this clip is wild lol i came into it wanting to hear about Matsuri in her incredibly relatable way of crashing out in front of pretty girls and got as a bonus: -update on Aqu-tan's adventures post-graduation (still not over it) in the form of plans with Pekora and maybe Shion - yet even more lore on that one Marine x Shion night, in the form of Shion denying that nothing happened - Shion/Pekora's hilarious reaction to a question about uhhhhh narrative arcs in storytelling, specifically the climax -Shion's rare cackle at 2:24 hell yeah
For those who don't know, Matsuri used to have her perverted, wild lolicon side before 2020 and her more natural, delicate tsundere side (AKA the "glass cannon" side) throughout 2020, all of which died out from 2021 afterwards in favor of her more generic, self-centered cute girl side that we all have been seeing from her today. And, yes, Matsushita-- err I mean Matsushion used to be a thing alongside lancorn (NatsuFubu) and FestivaLuna. These were Matsuri's most popular holo-pairings before she began to go through that personality shift, not to mention quadrupling-down into her Apex addiction in 2021. Without Matsushion, we wouldn't get to hear Shion's now-legendary "NEEEEEEEEEEEE~!!!" from that late-2018 Minecraft stream. You can look it up, it's in Shion's channel. Admittedly, Matsuri was also streaming at the time, but her stream was never recovered from the holopocalypse limbo while Shion got hers back. Wasn't the pairing known as "Shiori" and not Matsushion? Yes, I know that, but since holoEN Gen 3 is now a thing...
That wasn't a rant, that was an over-the-top copypasta confession that we viewers took a little too seriously. And it was from somewhere around 2018, during Matsuri's early months of vtubing, iirc.
@@frenzy07_ back in the early days of holo it was really easy to find their PL ,now they hid most of it ,those who know their PL is from these days , although some still stream on their PL accounts
I like how Shion’s response to “Are you sure you didn’t look at lewd things on your phone?” Is “I don’t use this phone” Instead of denying that she looks at lewd things on her phone. She basically says that’s only on her other phone lol
Pekora was shocked at first because she was like "wait, it's not the usual love jokes?" Especially when she would usually avoid to even participate in the jokes, unless necessary I love how she would then accept and acknowledge the situation in the next moment and actually be supportive of it.
Didn't she like... tried to confess in an onsen trip, but got rejected? Or is this just some random memory that my brain made up? Cause I swear I remember her talking about it.
More believable than the Marine stuff tbh. Matsuri IRL swings both ways and has mentioned having one ex-girlfriend a few times (both on Matsuri and not Matsuri)
I don't think shion is ever living down that sleepover LOL... I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that or this stream just to see how red in the face she got if she was lying.
For those who don't know, on their early days they were quite close It's like when Matsuri close to Luna after her debut phase Shion quite tolerating to Matsure's lew shenanigans both in stream and irl I remember vividly matsuri telling the story when they go out together (if i'm not mistaken with people from niji for disney), she flip Shion's skirt up trying to peek inside jokingly and Shion react "ehh~ its molester(chikan)~, what should i do~" implying if she should call the police
Ooooh I went to Mt. Takao this summer when I was in Japan. It's a nice spot if you want an easy hike. Not sure about the view since it was raining and foggy the day I went but still a good trek.
I just realized how much time has passed since all this events: the Marin & Shion's sleepover, the Matsuri's revelation to Shion, and other stuff some people have been asking about in the comments, like the Matsuri×Luna arc. It just feels kinda recent for me, but now we have holobros that have been in the rabbit hole for quite some time, but haven't heard about those things. Now in perspective, it feels nostalgic. Luckily, we still have some of those streams and clips. Time sure does flies away.
@@NicoNicoNessieSub Who cares? It's all heavy layers of fiction anyway, it's no different than enjoying a yuri manga or something, which is even less real. If they want to tell a story about characters that appeal to me, who am I to complain?
What is up with Manji(swastika lol) group something? They talked about it on stream. Apparently Manji includes Aqua, Shion and Ayame. What is that? What is origin? And it seems Pekora is trying to be close with these three.
Aqua, Shion, and Ayame used to collab together and the Manji group was created during their first Minecraft collab. Recently Pekora has been getting close with Aqua, then Ayame in GTA, and now Shion. Fans joked that Pekora is targeting the Manji group and asked who her main target within the group is.
Manjigumi. it is a group consist three of them. doesnt really carried over the years though, mostly just first year of their debut 卍 (the kanji for "manji"). This kanji is used in buddhist for "good fortune" (obviously its not that swastika that is angled 45 degree and mirrored) From somewhere else (reddit): " It's a slang used by young women. It has non-meaning in the context and is used to rhyme with the preceding word instead: マジ (maji); マジ卍 (maji manji) is similar to the versatile "yabai": "for reals?", "that's rad!", "that's straight fire!", etc. 卍組 (manji-gumi) falls more in line with "hip/trendy/cool/lit squad", which the three of them just came up with in one of their APEX/Minecraft/Whatever session, I suppose."
To add to this discussion, they are "group" in name only because they also rarely off-collab, Shion and Ayame don't stream as often and Aqua was for a long hiatus for a long time before coming back just to announce her graduation, so Pekora kind of fits in this group.
Manjigumi is what people called the 3 smol and introverted girls in Gen 2. As for why... I've been watching Hololive for 4 years now and I still don't know the answer.😅
well I don't know about appearance but Shion's personality on stream is very charming ^^ If I were to guess the advice Matsuri sought was about asking a girl who was barely legal because Shion was too young maybe? lol
Allegedly* 17. Not like people have any proof that she's that young. Haachama frequently shared stories about her school so that checked out. Shion tho? Nothing.
Now that Korone and Okayu are canonically married in Hololive, I don’t see any issues with the members having consented relationships with each other, as long as it’s not an IRL relationship between the actual talents.
I might be remembering it wrong, but that sleepover Pekora was talking about. Wasn't that the one when Shion ended up sleeping on the couch downstairs lol
@@Cuacky_RK thanks for clarifying! Ye, I just ended up binge watching relating to it to remember, such a good throwback haha. It's been 4 years now huh. Man, time flies
As someone who remembers the time when Marine first made that comic and talked about it, it’s funny how much it’s turned into a legend over the years due to extreme exaggeration (and, conversely, Shion completely denying it)
Something definitely happened, but Shion didn't like that Marine spoke about it on stream, so Marine made a mistake and the Shion route came to a dead end for her right there unfortunately. There was a call in stream a bit later, I believe Marine's birthday call in stream in 2022 where Shion called in, and said to Marine "Well, you're a good woman", completely destroying Marine's feelings in a very funny way lol.
@@luka188 Nah, I think Marine got permission from Shion to share the story. Also it's definitely not 100% true. When Marine shared the comic on Twitter she captioned it with "A Delusion" and Shion responded with "Pathetic and cute"
@@tysonfontanez yeah, Marine is considerate. If Shion really don't like it she'd have stopped talking about it already. By now they probably just agreed to play it out for comedy.
