Pela E6S1(Jiaoqiu lc) Vs Jiaoqiu E0S1 ft Acheron E2S1 vs MOC 2.4 0 cycle 

for e0/e1 yes, but e2+ no its better to use one nilhility + harmony.

@@bluuchandesu yeah but not everyone has parents with money for that 😭

@@smirking_moon never claimed anyone did but it was a clarification plus this showcase is showing off an e2 acheron.

@@bluuchandesu thank you captain obvious

@@smirking_moon acheron banner release along with hoyo birthday events, u can easily get her e2s1 if u have at least 100 pull before that banner

He got nerfed a lot

you miss the point. buff value wise Succrose still better. Grouping wise kazuha better. but its not the same with this Jiaoqu (?) and Pela. if your Acheron at E0 Abillity pela to still debuff and generate sp is stupidly high. and if using pearless sweat S5 thats mean Pela cannstack 56% deff shreed and its insane honesly.

v3 tomorrow, lets see what will change and don't copium hard another unit like Ruan mei will take some time to come

@@Vindenci I mean yeah, but harmony is eating good while nihility (supports) is starving. If they can make OP harmony, what stops them from making OP nihility

ngl i cried abt this 💀 why couldnt they make him not niche asf? i love that man and ill get him anyways but i dont want to feel like im losing dmg just cuz hes not with acheron

@@3.16music "what stops them from" broke playerbase stops them. not me though, my money is UP

@@3.16music op nihility? you mean like acheron?

it's v2

@@TheoDimitry V2 with no changes

When is V3 available?

@@Whopper-PixbellsV3 within some hours for now

@@RealMelodyHinari Thx

even for E2 it's better because any debuffer + Jiaoqiu will allow more ultimate rather than 1 debuffer + 1 harmony

they would perform the exact same in apoc, but in PF yes he is better, would actually make acheron viable in there

The problem is if he ends up being a niche support mostly to Archeron. While Pela is viable in various compositions He's by far the best Archeron support. But if ends up being only that, people without her will mostly lose interest in pulling for him

@@Jarubimba yes im agree with you in some way it is also a let down, but to be frank this game already going to that way since couple patch before, even not only niche support we even get a niche dps. Also based on what you said, in my opinion Jiaoqiu is for someone who already have Acheron or at least someone who already play this game since dont know maybe since 1.x version of this game, cause again if we are new its better to have dps or sustain limited character to help us advancing this game further

Acheron E2-Haver here.. was hyped about him but yeah.. From my POV he is basically just a Ult Battery (exclusive to Acheron) and makes PF easier.. but is it worth it? ​@@Jarubimba

@@SekaiCake it depends on you tho, do you like Acheron that much it makes you want to have her best support? If yes, then he is really worth your pull, cause just like you said, he is just battery for Acheron ult, meanwhile Acheron ult is her main kit.

Fischl is better at c6, without it Yae is better is most teams

Who is he worse than? He’s legit giving Acheron stacks faster than anyone else in game. Also, this is a comparison with E2S1 Acheron, which lessens his stack generation value.

@@miguelangelcaballeroaranda9450still fucking sad, the fact that yae needs fischl to perform well is insane

@@critanddam9031 as a on fielder Yae? Yes, but with dendro she's better

@@tokyo-sz4zd in overall kit pela is so much better in MOST team and this is the FACT

He’s still ass

I'm guesing u meant at 2:46??? Hes doing that cause he want acheron to have sparkle buff first before ult

e2

They are in the description

He is Nihilty/Debuffer (Increasing DMG) and also does some DMG here and there

He gives a lot of stacks for acheron ulti, dmg wise is very similar to pela, the stacks are useful in pf or if you don't have e2 acheron

@@giuseppe99gs I don't even use Pela on my acheron team anyways. I use SW which is more damage. He does seem extremely underwhelming for a 5 star.

@@Msaber2012 it his v1 kit, he will definitely will be buff/rework

@@Msaber2012Since when a debuffer wanted to deal huge dmg?? 💀

@@NamRuto what does that even mean? 🪨🥥🐆🎁🛍

pela is truly the xingqiu of hsr

I remember one dude was claiming that Acheron is TOP tier while using trash supports like pela…. I wonder when pela became trash….

​@@SlL222 to be fair acheron have a free charcater called pela who is better than some limited 5*. Cof cof im looking at you seele fraudfly and black swan.

Unless you don't have E2 Acheron

Who asked??

@@NamRuto can people not get any more obnoxious? this is a comparison of a character’s viability *in battle* vs a similar character with the same purpose in the same team. if you like the character, pull. but dont yap and cry about it in spaces where, clearly, you are not the target audience 😭😭

@@r_quiem6288 You suppose to tag and say this to that Owen guy. Not me xd

@@NamRutome

Jiaoqiu is still in beta, wait for at least v3 before saying that bs.

@@The0desss I’m not going to cope about him going back to being a solo sustain. If it happens I’ll be happy to be proven wrong but it won’t unless the beta testers complain and even then it’s a slim chance.

@@bjornnilsson2941he was never going to be a solo sustainer. It was reported and rumored that he could heal, yes. However, the healing was also reported to be very minuscule and by no means good enough for solo sustain. 0-cycle is diff story though.

@@thouartseraph ok not Luocha level but since you can sustain even with Welt for short battles, if Jiaoqiu had a heal he could probably have sustained for 2-3 cycle clears which is real all Acheron needs.

@@bjornnilsson2941 Acheron doesn't really need anything but more Light cone options for F2P if you ask me.

Who asked?? And its still in V1. HSR players couldnt read lol🐧

@@NamRutoand who ask you? It’s v2 wth

@@pyn.p4511 V2 of him had no changes whatsoever. And not worth pulling is a bit... yeah. This is an e2 Acheron - and both him and Pela are finishing on the same cycle. In PF or AS, specially if you have e0 - as most players do - he is way more valuable. His value was always his debuff stacks for acheron - debuff wise vulnerability is still better than def shred.

@@pyn.p4511and the V3 is usually the massive change with V4 adjusting the V3 changes just like with Acheron and FF post V3/4 for them to where they are now.

@@pyn.p4511 Another Honki Star Bucks Player still cannot read moment😭😭