This was actually one of the first major uses of CGI. At this point in history, animal welfare was already a major concern. It was the period of "no animals were harmed in the making of this film", so care had to be taken with the penguins. The smaller penguins in close up shots are real penguins. The larger emperor penguins, if I recall the director's commentary, are actually people in suits. The distant shots of masses of penguins are actually CGI. It is very primitive CGI; if I remember, they cloned and pasted a lot of real penguins to create the 'mass wave' effect, and if you look closely in the distant shots you can see it clearly, though in the low resolution of the era it was far less noticeable. More primitive version of what was done to greater effect in the gallimimus stampede scene in Jurassic Park. :) An exciting time for special effects!
I love the look he does at 1:15. Like that’s him only now realising, after nearly being hit by rocket launched by penguins, that his life is a little weird.
Yes the movie is dark, gothic, and brooding, but penguins with missiles on their back and escape via the duck mobile are straight up silver age campy plot devices and it's sort of amazing the movie blends them in seamlessly.
No no. It's not campy at all dumb Nolan fanboy. This just shows that Cobblepot is not reluctant to abuse his own "babies" to get revenge on Gotham. Shows how much evil he is! YOUR DUMB DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE AND NOLAN TRILOGY ARE CAMPY
We have no clue what a Burton directed Batman Forever would've looked like. I'd have anticipated Michael Keaton being invited back to the role of Bruce Wayne/Batman. Billy Dee Williams returned as Harvey Dent/Two-Face. It was rumored that Robin Williams was considered for the role of Edward Nyigima/The Riddler. As for the role of Dick Grayson/Robin, not sure whether River Phoenix was considered before his untimely death, or if another big name like Henry Thomas was looked at. Batman Returns kind of had somewhat of a cliffhanger ending with Selina Kyle/Catwoman still being alive and well. Not sure how Dr. Chase Meridian would fit into the story, or if Batman successfully captured Catwoman, and she was sent to Arkham Asylum. If Burton was to have directed Batman & Robin, casting of Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane, and Batgirl.
The third movie references the second one in dialogue. The latter two movies carry multiple cast members playing the same characters. The official novelization (or so I have read) explains how Dent helped the image of Batman survive the events of this one. Jack Nicholson was set up to reappear sharing a movie with the Scarecrow. You sound very sure.
@@erickirk6966 We can safely assume that it would have been better than Batman Forever , yes parents would have most likely moaned again that it was too dark but who cares .
@@gerardoalvarezdelcastillo9688 Do you think that they and the Poodle Lady would have escaped? I came up with a scenario in which the latter does just that.
Man. If it's not Burton's direction and atmosphere or Michael Keatons version of Batman that makes me think of Batman, it's also Danny Elfmans incredible music that reminds me of Batman!
This movie is a classic Michael Keaton’s batman Will always be my favorite Batman ps When the announcer lady fadded away it always scared me when i was a kid lol
And the clowns silently cartwheeling away after the Penguin looked into that foreboding canal, like when a thunderstorm is coming. Absolutely amazing; goosebumps every time.
The way she said "There is also something coming this way. Very large. Very fast." Always stuck with me since I was so kid. I dunno, I always thought it was so cool.
It makes sense too. In the absence of a Robin or Batgirl/Oracle in his life as of yet, Alfred is Bruce's only consistent ally in his fight against crime. To quote Ned from the MCU's Spider-Man films, he's Batman's "guy in the chair", giving the hero out doing the crime fighting some tech support on the fly.
I'm willing to bet that not many WWII vets/former MI6 operatives in the Twilight of their years can honestly say that they were working with state-of-the-art cutting-edge tech while still helping to save lives every night.
@@babalarassrah it was "too dark" for the parents of the kids who saw it. Actually all the kid I know and saw it loved it and didn't had any problem with that.
I must say, it is pretty well made. I mean, it's gothic, but that's good. It's also a pretty good sequel and certainly has a Tim Burton feel to it. Just like "Beetlejuice", "Batman", "Edward Scissorhands", and "Sleepy Hollow".
@ I felt like today he's seen as a comical figure, but he's fantastic in this. Even as a kid I felt a mixture of spite and empathy, even sadness for his character, something comic book villains almost never do today.
@@infamousmaze6870 He also set a man on fire. He doesn't mow people down with machine guns, though. And it's *really* funny, so... it's okay. Probably. I'll allow it.
This is such a typical early Tim Burton movie that it would be interesting enough if it wasn’t a superhero movie. It’s really an added bonus that Batman is in it.
Michael KEATON... The ONE AND ONLY BATMAN... Even ifTHE FLASH did not make it he came back... 70 years old and Batman again... I was ten when that movie came out... 😢
I think the look on Batman's face around 1:15-1:17 tells the entire story... If that doesn't say "Whew... That was a close one!...", I don't know what does.
I was a kid when I saw this and laughed my ass off. I dunno why people found t too dark it's cartoony as fuck. I was creeped more in retrospect as a teenager when I got what it COULD suggest sexually on a perv level but it's all stuff between the lines. Kids don't get the sexual innuendo anyway.
What I loved about this movie is that Batman outsmarted penguin at every move by foiling his plans constantly and was able to take him down one on one finally.
Gotham City Population: 0 Also got to love how when things start going south for the Penguin, his incredible leadership skills boils down to him making random growling noises.
This sequence is mind boggling! A genius combination of puppetry, animatronics, actors in suits, early CGI, and most impressive of all, real trained penguins!
There is no film that contradicts that, so you can have fun with that, watch the films with that chronology, i did it, its fun. Maybe Leto's joker could be weird, but it could be a second joker after the burton one. The first killed his family, the second Robin =D
@@iambuhlockay8007 They those two don't come close to the Burton Movies and I will prove it by using facts found in reality. The Burton Movies has a key component missing from Nolan and The Batman, they lack IMAGINATION. The Burton Movies created modern Batman we have today, it spawned the Animated Series which was based on the Burton Films, and introduced the character Harley Quinn who was never a comic book character but is now part of Batman canon The Batman Theme use to be the 1960's Batman song, but they changed to Danny Elfman's theme which is the most iconic Batman Theme, Hans Zimmer Score has no flair and nothing memorable, sounds like just another movie, and the Batman score doesn't even sound like batman Burton Movies were outrageous and silly, but they were Batman movies and didn't shy away from it Nolan and The Batman are crime thrillers with Batman as a character
They was going to make a 3rd but during the meeting with the studio they was very off with Tim burton to the point he said “you don’t want me to do a 3rd do you?” And then walked out..
If you've ever watched Batman Returns full movie, you'll see a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger (then-future Mr. Freeze) shook hands with Max Shreck. The picture's hanged in the latter's meeting room and is quite visible during Selina Kyle's line "oh, darn". That scene where she forgets to give the speech script to Shreck.
Well that's his karma for being abusive to his goons... He hit one with his umbrella for addressing him as Oswald and shoots another to death for questioning him.
I love the moment when they all hear Batman's coming each member of the red circus begins to escape. You can see Penguin's reaction that he didn't see that coming and now its up to him to take the bat Those small details are pure perfection for me😍😍♥️
In the app game DC Legends, they've finally made Penguin a playable character, and one of his attacks, in an obvious nod to this movie and this scene, is having a hench- penguin blast a missile at enemies!
Most people talk about the video but nobody talks about Christopher Walkens incredible performance as max Shrek max was really the main villan in this movie he made penguin run for mayor created cat woman he should be given more credit
The shot of the penguins when they saw that Batman dodged their rockets with that sick move in the tunnel. I could imagine one of them saying: "Did we get em'? Nope we missed..."
It's got its good points, but it's really not that great. Its best qualities are Catwoman and the fact that it aged slightly better than the Schumacker movies
Apparently the penguins were so well treated by the production team, they were able to nest eggs during the project. Many went to aquatic centers or zoos
It's bizarre that the visually and tonally "darkest" of all the Batman films is also the one with an army of mind-controlled penguins being sent with rockets on their backs to blow up a city. Batman Returns is a weird film.
