Penn 209 & 210 Maintenance including take apart and drag service 

Than you for the kind words. Just trying to do my best. I appreciate you watching and for taking the time to encourage me to do more. Best wishes - Dennis

You are welcome. Thank you for the kind words of encouragement - Dennis

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching - that reel is a champ that will keep on fishing for a long time. Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis

Thank you for the comment. That is what I am trying to do here. Make it worth keeping the reels and helping folks get a little satisfaction from doing the overhauls. Best wishes- Dennis

Thank you for the kind words. Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis

Thank you for the kind words. Good luck on the rebuilds. If you run into a snag, send me a question and I will see if I can help - Dennis

I just acquired a Shakespeare Service 1944 model GE. I was able to determine it was made in 1946. This seems like a very solidly built and well made reel. Penn reels seem to have many similarities to the old Shakespeares. Is there any way you can do a video on one of these?

I don't have one, but I have a few older Shakespeare reels. I will check with what I have and do a video on the oldest one. Technology did not change much in those years and there is a good chance they will be similar. Thanks for asking - Dennis

That's what 2nd Chance Tackle is all about - restoring reels and memories - thanks for watching - Dennis

It's hard to go wrong with the older ones, and the parts are still available for many of these reels. Good luck in your treasure hunts - Dennis

Thanks for watching - Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

Thank you for your honest feedback - I am always seeking to do better - Dennis

That sounds like a nice trick for the worn clicker that will allow it to work a little longer. Thanks for sharing - Dennis

Dennis Sir, Tqvm. Yours Aye ... Syed Hussein

Great to hear it helped Devon. Best wishes - Dennis

You are welcome - Dennis

Which reel are you referring to? If I have one, I will be happy to do it. - Dennis

Sure thing Wolfgang. I do these videos as the reels come into my shop for service. I will add this to my list and do the next one I get in, though it may take a while. Thanks for watching - Dennis

I don't recall the free spool set up. I know it is not the traditional set up you would see in the Penn 9 that has the jack, yoke and release springs. I haven't worked on one of those in a very long time. You may want to get the schematic and check that you have reassembled the reel correctly. You go to Pennparts.com for the schematic and you can call them with questions. They are very good about helping.

Yes - you likely have a broken or worn anti-reverse dog or spring or both. Those parts should still be available through Mysticparts.com You can follow the video on how to take the reel apart and replace the worn parts on reassembly. Thanks for asking. I hope this helps Dennis

The normal cause would be worn or broken drags. It is hard to say without taking the reel apart. A secondary cause could be a broken piece of line trapped inside the reel. If you have the drag tightened all the way down and can pull the line out by hand, then it is usually the worn drags. Lastly- are you using braid? If you are, and it has not been backed with mono for the first several yards, then it could be the braid slipping around the spool, which will cause the same problem.

They are a lot easier to take off than to put on. If you do decide to remove it, take the idler gear or worm drive gear off as well. That will reduce the friction and speed up the spool for casting better - Dennis

I believe the clicker you are referring to is the anti-reverse dog, which sits on a toothed gear and clicks each time it moves to the next slot. It is not possible to eliminate this click without removing the anti reverse dog. If you do that, the reel will operate as a direct drive and the handle will spin backwards when the fish pulls your line. Thanks for asking - Dennis

Jeffrey - the reel is similar to the 209, but it is larger and has different gears. Stay tuned. You are in luck as I am waiting on parts for a 309 and I will do a video to show the rebuild within a week! Thanks for watching - Dennis

yee-haw...Your rebuild video of the 6/0 is without a doubt GOLD, pointing out old and new style was eye opening. This is a hobby for me but when I am given these reels I consider it part of fishing to learn the maintenance and proper care. I am very curious about the bearings in the 309, your video of the 209 showed a LS one that unless I'm looking at it wrong I'm missing. I would love to send photos but i can't figure that out right now...Thank you

Jeffrey - I just got the parts for the 309 today and I will be posting a video this week. Stay tuned and see if that video answers your questions. Thank you - Dennis

Yes - the procedures are the same. The #9 is just a smaller version. The drags, bridge assembly and other parts are smaller, but the process is the same. The #9 reel is sturdy and dependable. Good luck with the overhaul. If you run into a snag, send a note and I will see if I can help - Dennis

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2nd Chance Tackle so the bridge assembly that contains the drag washers is the only thing that should come out on me? Or do i have to worry about the springs and dog all falling out when i take the 4 screws out?

In the US we use Pennparts.com for all the parts as well as oil and grease you may need. If it is only oil and grease, your local sporting goods shop or bait and tackle store may have it. Any oil and grease made for fishing reels will work. - Thanks for asking - Dennis

Yes. I just rebuilt a jigmaster 500 and its surprisingly similar as well. Finding exploded view diagrams are very helpful.

Yes - the 209 uses the Penn Long Beach gears, which is approximately 2.7:1, so it is very slow on the retrieve. If you get the 210, which I showed in this video, you get the higher retrieve as it uses the JigMaster gears. The 309 also uses the JigMaster setup, so both are better off with either than the 209. I personally fit the Daiwa Sealine, but that is not a level wind reel. Many of the comparable "modern" reels from Shimano, Daiwa and Okuma feature gears as high as 6.2:1 in the conventional level wind reel. I generally don't like them that high as you can rip the hook from the fish with the high speed retrieve.

The Gamefisher tr/24 is a reel that was made in Japan for Sears. The original Gamefisher branding was by Garcia, so it is also possible that they contracted for this reel to be manufactured for Sears under that name. It may also have been made by Daiwa. Several of the Sears reels, like the King Neptune were Daiwa products. The reels are generally reliable, but parts tend to be difficult to find. Any private label reels were made in Japan in the 80's and 90's by various manufacturers including Ryobi, Daiwa, Olympic, Compac and others. - Dennis

I need to correct - The Garcia brand was the Kingfisher, not gamefisher. - Dennis

Thanks for the info.

James - Chances are that there is dirt or dried grease on the worm gear or in the pawl assembly. If it has been sitting for some time, then that would be my first thought. Try spraying the worm gear with WD40 or another penetrating oil. Then remove the pawl cap and do the same to the pawl. Let it sit for a while and then try cranking to see if it resolved the problem. If it works properly, then just put a drop of reel oil on the pawl and close it up. If it still sticks then let me know and we can try something else - Dennis

I'll double check but it brand new

I haven't even put line on it yet lol

Hey Dennis I found the problem on my 209 the worm gear Shield was slightly bent on the right hand side at the back pain hole I took screwdriver and bent it over just a touch no more binding no more stiffness thank you

The cause is usually a dirty or worn pawl or grit in the worm track. You can start by removing the pawl and cleaning the top. Check the points to make sure they are even - If one is broken or worn more, you will need to replace it. Parts are available through mystic parts.com - Dennis

14-99 is the dog spring and is comparable. 15-99 I the dog for the Long Beach. 15-209 is the dog for the 209. I believe the 209 dog is shorter than the one for the Long Beach reel and not compatible or interchangeable. as a reminder, if you have a worn anti reverse dog, check the gear sleeve to make sure that the teeth are not worn. If you are replacing the anti-reverse dog, you may need to replace the gear sleeve as well. - Thank you for asking. Parts are available at mystic parts.com and they can confirm that these are different anti-reverse dogs.

The bearings are not the traditional round ones you are looking for. They are in the side plate caps and not upgradeable. The Penn 210 has the ones you are looking for in a traditional bearing - Dennis

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The Mag (magnet)- the 210 has a magnetic cast assist on the bridge plate

There are 3 main causes for the worm gear not working. The first is a broken pawl. The second is a broken transition gear, which is plastic and located inside the bearing side plate and the third is a broken worm gear. To check, turn the reel upside down. so that you can see the exposed part of the worm gear. Crank the reel. Is the worm gear turning? If it is not, remove the bearing side plate. That is the one without the handle. Check the plastic gear. Are the teeth missing or chipped? It they are missing, it will not turn the worm gear. If they are chipped, the worm gear may turn, but not move the line guide. If the plastic gear is OK, but the line guide is not moving, remove the pawl. The pawl is located in the screw cap under the line guide. The top of the pawl should look like the letter "Y". If one of the forces is broken. it will not operate properly and will need to be replaced. Finally, if the gear and the pawl are OK, then you need to check the worm gear to make sure it is not damages and that the track are not scarred or out of alignment. If they are, then you will need to replace the worm gear. Parts are available from Mysticparts.com. They are a distributor for Penn Parts. Let me know if these suggestions help. Thanks for asking - Dennis

If I did not include the cleaning, it was due to time constraints, with the video run time. My main purpose was to show how to take apart and service the mechanicals - Dennis

The difference is that the 210 has ball bearings on both side plates. The 209 has the bushings. As a result, the 210 is smoother and casts easier. The is the only difference. It's like the Jigmaster 500 and 505. FYI Dennis

thank you. and thanks for the jig master info!

does that mean the 506 is a 501 with bearings? I thought the 505 and 506 are high speed a lil different. I like em all . I'm a old penn guy. thanks for the info! I can talk old penn reels all day!

The 210 is better than the 209 because of the ball bearings, but both are slowed by the level wind feature, which will limit you casting distance Thanks for asking - Denis

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Let me know what the problem is in reassembly and I will try to help you - Dennis

The 9M is smaller than the 209. It is the approximate size of the Penn 160 Beachmaster. About 2 3/4 inch side plate and 2 3/4 inch spool width. It is good for lakes and inshore fishing. - Dennis

thanks!

does it cast well

It is not the best for casting as compared to an Abu 5500 or other round bait caster reel. No bearings and a moving line guide slow the cast and distance. It is better for drop fishing in my opinion - Dennis

so,whats a cheap good casting reel for casting?

Sven - The reason I do not have a 209 is that I do videos of the reels that come into my shop for repair and I have not had a 209 to work on in a while. I have that on my list of to do items and will do the 209 when one comes in for servicing. The 210 has a bridge mounted anti reverse dog, somewhat similar to the Penn Jugmaster. That enables you to service the drags and "drop in" the bridge for reinstall. You are correct, the 209 does not have that feature and you must rotate the bridge to complete the anti-reverse dog installation. If you want to re-check the video, you can see the bridge mounted anti-reverse dog around the 8:00 mark. I appreciate you watching the video and taking the time to comment. Stay tuned. I am sure I will get a 209 sooner or later. I do have a 309 that I am waiting on parts in order to do a repair. I will post that one in the next week or two, as soon as the parts arrive - Dennis

2nd Chance Tackle . Isn’t the 309 considerably different than the 209?