CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin, Becky Quick and Joe Kernen react to the fallout from the controversial testimony by three university presidents on Capitol Hill this week.
Amazing that these Universities consider that making negative statements against someone's weight or getting someone's pronouns wrong abusive and violent behavior subject to disciplinary action but screaming at and calling for the genocide of your Jewish students ok behavior 🤷♂️
At this point it seems that modern students in todays universities are better off not being in thise colleges or universities. As they are being brainwashed by Marxist communist or Socialist Mentors to raise the new generation to accept the global agenda 2030 OWN NOTHING BE HAPPY ( just my opinion BASED ON FACTS)
its how it started in nazi germany, there is absolutely NOTHING to say it cant happen in the USA, nothing, whats next, jews being banned from attending certain classes? jews being banned from the communal cafeteria? lol im deadly serious here
Liz Magill knew what she was saying, she answered the question in accordance with what her heart and mind dictated. This woman is dangerous. And she deserves to be fired.
@@Oscar1994ification She would have sought the advice of Penn's legal and PR team but her smirks and arrogant smiles gave away her true beliefs and values.
Not necessarily, she could have just been amused at the obvious line of questioning. She did have to say the same thing like five times. I laughed at some point too because I knew the congresswoman wasnt going to get the answer she wanted but she kept on going. The point is, yes, it depends on the context: chanting "From the River to the Sea" can mean whatever the chanter says it means and so might be a grey area for campus officials to presecute. @@ferni7335
Are you telling me donors didn’t get they what they bought and are having a buyer’s remorse? Pretty sure schools can easily find next higher bidders. Academy for sale is wrong in the first place🥱.
Calling for the presidents to resign is not enough; the entire boards need to resign, as they have given support to the views that lead to this circumstance.
For me that smug look on that face and smile signifies that, in her head she thought she had come up with a brilliant answer which would allow her to tip toe around the issue while sounding absolutely brilliant...she knew exactly what she was doing here.
@caitlynlivingston7272 The look was indeed smug. What I think happened is that she took a better than thou attitude because the person asking the questions was on the "other" team. Aka Republican. What she should have done is took the question on face value. Regardless of the legalise of the question she didn't even have the good sense to at least state the calling for genocide of any group is despicable. Another perfect example, of partisan politics eroding one's ability to think rationally and humanely.
She should have asked her to provide an example of when calling for genocide is not an example of bullying or harassing a group of people. Would love to hear that
it is a yes or no question, basically you can only answer yes or no, this is how they silence you, asking complex question, and only let you answer yes or no
@Sam For example, if a country in the middle east was bombing a territory under its control, and displacing millions of people, calling for the continuation of that is not considered bullying or harassing. It goes under the name of calling for "self-defense".
If in 1944, a Jew in Auschwitz concentration camp calling the God to eliminate all German, and the Nazi used this to legalize the holocaust, that's not right. I think that's the context she was referring to.
The craziest thing about the response coming from these university presidents is that they do not back free speech at all whatsoever as a rule. There are so many examples of this going back years.
@@investoroncoke Someone saying "from the river to the sea doesnt" mean they are calling for genocide. Israel bombing civilian hospitals though is genocide.
@@bayshawnmalik Students are scared for their lives, These students are calling for the extermination of the Jews. If the school will not hold the protesters accounatble, THEN PULL ALL public funds from the school. That way these schools will be private and FREE to SUPPORT any TERROARIST organinzation they want
Clearly you don't see the long term plan with this hearing. Education doesn't make you smart, just educated. Ask yourself what OTHER motive could congress have for taking advantage of the current situation in Israel, . Maybe to influence all donors and fools such as yourself into pressuring colleges to follow their ideological curriculum? Grow their future base of domestic terrorists? Think long term and you won't be shortsighted.
They were so smug and though they were so smart giving those stupid answers. Which they had to, for legalize reasons, however it admits that they have not upheld their moral code of conduct, since they wouldn't be afraid of being sued and having to speak legalize in such a ridiculous manner otherwise.
It is stunningly surprising to see how foolish these super elite college presidents were to even begin to think their answers would not trigger wild backlash.
With the amount of money these schools have received from Middle Eastern countries and the number of visiting professors from there, this should be of no surprise. They have been teaching this for decades.
Universities are just fine. It's people like you who lives in our society who went down long time and and trying to take the rest of the society down with you. Universities are just fine.
The problem is that it's not just these 3 schools. My daughter just started Ohio State and 3 months ago she didn't even know one thing about Israel, now she argues with me because I am supporting them.
I bet she still doesn't know anything about Israel. Ask her to watch Hillel Neuer's "where are your Jews" speech and then tell her over 50% of Israel's Jews are descendants of refugees who were expelled from the entire Arab world after 1948. I bet she doesn't know that. Or ask her which countries ran the West Bank and Gaza before 1968.
yeah but her argument fundamentally doesn't work... to these people, words=violence. if someone said genocide of blacks, that would not be "context dependent".... i just dont understand how anyone can be so monumentally stupid
You know when Trump said that the news media who quoted him left out the first few sentences of his speech? Where he damned the white supremests and extremists?
One of them said it would break the code of conduct if the calls for genocide transitioned to conduct……Stefanik then said “So if it went from calls for genocide on campus to actually COMMITTING genocide on campus THEN it would constitute as harm and harassment?!?” as she sat there completely dumbfounded.
Bravo Ross Stevens ! Demand a change in leadership, or withdrawal your generous support. Inexcusable and unforgivable behavior has its consequences. There is no apology sufficient enough to account for her comments.
Actually they teach a very few privileged kids in the bigger scheme. Leave them to it, all woke then doomed to become unproductive, yet entitled. citizens.
Now we know why she put out that BS speech today about how changes are going to happen and apologizing. She’s only apologizing because she got her butt chewed out.
Would you hire graduates from these universities to work in your firm? It only takes one sociopath to bring down an entire corporation. Not a chance most firms will be willing to take after witnessing these displays of terrorist intent! Ivy League Universities are losing their reputations as well as their funding!
We all should take a hard look at these Universities! What are they teaching the students? Makes you wonder what kind of standards they use to accept new students!? It is also about $$$, they don’t listen to no one until a billionaire who donate to the school speaks up……………😢
I’m so glad I went to college when I did. I went to WVU from 92-96 and as a Jew, never felt unsafe or was made fun of at all! And this was West Virginia! I just can’t believe everything that’s going on today. It’s just sad that we have to deal with this. And these university presidents? As one person said, they’re so smug (as if they’re above the law). If you have to hire a PR firm to learn how to answer a few questions, that show whether or not you have a spine, then there’s no WAY you should be president of a college. Not even a community college.
The funny things ... Universities like Penn, MIT, Harvard etc "used to be" schools of science and technology, engineering, medicine however in the last 2 decades the leadership of these great institutions are in the hand of people who of backgrounds in political science, law, international relations (people who have never seen a thing under a microscope, would not know the newtons laws) .. same is the case for these 3 buffoons .... the board and funders of these universities should think limiting to imparting technical education at these institutions ... trust me students perusing technical education don't have time to get involved with political issue .. they are most of the time struggling with their assignments and tests and projects and reports
Interesting, I was forming the picture that Harvard and Penn were essentially arts/humanities based institutions and that MIT was the STEM based place . I haven't heard Yale mentioned though . I wouldn't know much except for the odd references in movies and Mash over the decades . I don't live in America.
I am parent of penn graduates. My two daughters graduated from Penn. My family has been donating to Penn every year. But not anymore, unless Penn did something about this disgrace. I am so sick of those people using freedom of speech as excuses. Obama did this to Asian Americans in regards to rapper YG. Money and power are the only language those woke people understand.
The smugness of these college presidents is really "off putting." They all know they are in the presdents offices because they are hard left believers.
I personally know a board member of a major university, everything has gotten political, they are focused on indoctrination rather than truth and substance…this university has had a major drop in enrollment and running a 45Million deficit this year…this started in the 80’s I studied to take the Collegiate Coaches exam and found rules implemented as early as 1992 on crazy stuff just now happening in our universities, this was long planned out and Rush Limbaugh was talking about it in the 80’s you’re only shocked now cause you have to be.
These shocking events on our campuses demand that going forward, all philanthropic grants to universities should include a claw-back clause, exercised at the discretion of the grantor.
What’s truly amazing as that all these Talking Heads talk about this being controversial topics. They are not controversial. There is a clear cut, correct. Answer. The university president failed completely. The board is completely complicit as well. At each of these institutions.
This is the reality of the elites' philanthropy. At this level, money is not the "efficient tool of trade" that us peasants are taught. It's power to control what people do and what people are allowed to think. We can this "freedom."
Universities depend on monies from both student enrollment and donors. They are trying to side with student nerative but wasn't expecting such a high backlash from donors, plus future employment of graduates are in japody as firms tend to 'not associate ' with wokeness.
Pink haired transgenders and commies don't have enough money to move the needle. The university sides with them to prove their moral superiority, but then realizes too late that they'll also have to advocate for the extermination of the Jews. October 7 is the day the mask fell off and the corporations realized they are on the side of Nazis.
There are plenty of small schools who don’t have the donor base like the Ivy League that could really use that money and he might get more satisfaction out of seeing them thrive
Either free speech for everyone except for direct threats of imminent violence or some kind of equal solid standard...cant imagine a reasonable standard that doesnt prohibit promotion of genocide. Personally, id prefer the free speech approach but it needs to be free speech for all.
Why do these universities need so much money? You'd think tuition could be very low with those kinds of donations. There's something wrong with the whole system.
It's a pernicious long running attack on the west. There are satellite campuses of American and Western-European Universities of good repute in countries that do not have our best interests in mind, such as in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. These foreign govts invest heavily in these high end Universities and expect their interests to be supported in return, for example RnD and patents belonging to them although achieved by our schools.. We will see if the donors and institutions who support the west are able to pull enough funding to counter the foreign investments in these Universities. If they put their funding into schools who have stronger interests in Western prosperity it is possible the Eastern-leaning institutions will come around and begin rejecting the bad actor/doners as it just won't be enough to cover the losses. These countries with oil wealth in the middle east and scant labor laws in Asia and The East will have to spend their money on the wars they are starting so they will not be able to cover all the losses the Universities incur. We do need to weed out their interests at present in these schools in the meantime. It will not be easy but calling for the resignation of people who refuse to acknowledge hate speech is a start.
So it's likely that on account of receiving long standing generous funding from oil rich Arab states that the ivy league joints have tacitly fallen in step with the Arab narrative which is implied here . Money talks I guess , and everyone can be bought .
They were painfully uncomfortable with the conversation, make no mistake. They had no choice, to ignore this story would have shown their hypocrisy and the MSM already has a credibility issue.
It's sad that you're finding out about this now, when many of us have known what's been going on at college and university campuses for a long time. MSNBC and other news outlets that only report one side have failed you.
i have made this comment recently before...but as someone who never really thought anti-semitism was pervasive in the usa...i have changed my mind recently due to being at a complete loss at how else to explain the insanity i have been seeing since october 7th. it would have been laughably easy to say the right things, something like, "of course calling for the genocide of jews is not acceptable" while maintaining the status quo of doing nothing about it, but I'm starting to think people's hatred of Jews is so strong that perhaps they are having trouble pretending to be objective?...I just don't know how else to explain making oneself look THAT bad on perhaps the least complicated question that could be asked. i'm sure they would have perfect moral clarity in differentiating the actions of a government from the individuals of the population when it comes to Putin and Russians. I'm sure they would be the first to admonish you for failing to make the distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people, but apparently this charity isn't extended to Israel and Jews and we can just lump them all into one "evil" category where there apparently can be a context where calling for the murder of the entire population is acceptable....and these are the same institutions that are telling me about micro aggressions and that words are violence? what in the actual hell is going on.
