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PENON QUATTRO - HUGELY FLAWED MASSIVELY MUSICAL 

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THANKS TO PENON FOR THE DEAL ON THIS ONE:
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0:10 SLIDESHOW
1:35 OPENING
4:00 ISOBARIK INFORMATION
8:00 SOME NEGATIVE STUFF
10:00 MUSIC AND TRACK IMPRESSIONS
19:56 BACK TO THE MUSIC
24:35 ONLY ONE MASSIVE HIGHPOINT
25:36 CONCLUSION
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Комментарии : 57   
@kettlebro
@kettlebro 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. Penon seriously needs more of this type of constructive criticism in reviews. Because of current status quo it looks like a small cult fueled by 3-5 regular reviewers gushing over their every new single release. It's hard to take it seriously, not be sceptical and not ask questions, especially when Penon is not the cheapest company around. I'm owner and enjoyer of few of their IEMs but current situation around this company is not doing anyone a favor. PS: I share some of your sentiment regarding Serial and it's low end but then I put on something like Yorushika - Burglar and I feel complete with no need to look for anything else 😅
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
They do, they do.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
You get it 100% PENON is not doing themselves any favors by paying for reviews eventually it will bite them in the ass sooner than later.
@christiharris292
@christiharris292 8 месяцев назад
What an excellent review, balanced and thoughtful. It's easy to hear and see the love - hate relationship here. I really need to think on this one. The concept for me of 4 DD's is intriguing but I'm not sure about purchasing it. As always keep up the amazing work
@famousibarra1
@famousibarra1 8 месяцев назад
Appreciate your honest takes. I fell for that Penon hype way back when the original Fan came out and I actually despise that IEM. Will sometimes cable roll and give it a shot thinking that something is going to change on it. But nope, just a bad IEM that was getting hyped up in that thread by who knows whoever those posters are. Never gonna fall for it again haha.
@phetmoz
@phetmoz 8 месяцев назад
Fan 2 was definitely a better IEM. Wasn't enough for me personally though.
@carlton9523
@carlton9523 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great explanation of isobaric driver configuration. It truly is a gimmick unless implemented perfectly. Glad I passed on this one.
@davies9330
@davies9330 8 месяцев назад
Great review Monk. Appreciate the clarification on isobaric setup. Good honest review, you didn’t bash it, but clearly differentiated between the positive and negative aspects of the Quattro.
@munter68
@munter68 7 месяцев назад
I´m really glad to hear your impressions of this IEM. Since its release it was on the top of my wishlist because of its special configuration with 4 DDs. You explained very well, why this IEM is probably not my next purchase (Bass quality, missing stage qualities and separation,..) Thanks for that! Another interesting IEM to review (and the second on my wishlist) would be Thieaudio Hype 4, which has 2 DDs for the Bass as well, and is in the same price bracket. I´m looking forward to it;-) Keep it up and stay musical!
@maXXXjacker
@maXXXjacker 8 месяцев назад
This was a very sobering review, but the review that needs to be heard. Thank you for this Monk. I wish this came out before I pulled the trigger on this set. I got caught up in the circle jerk of a certain website spewing praises for this set and the brand like this would be the second coming. There was a certain review on this website with a promise of sparkly highs, excellent imaging, wide stage and bass perfect for dynamic lovers, sounds like a load. Lesson learned, I'll just have to find a way to restrain myself for a little bit longer when the Hype is strong (lol Hype 4 please) and see what the Monk has to say. While I'd love to hear the redeeming qualities of the one thing this set does well, I don't think the cons are gonna convince me at $400 USD. I hope Penon is good about returns. Looking forward to the next video!
@moonsofjupiter
@moonsofjupiter 8 месяцев назад
We all get burned sometimes. Sounds like what you want is the Symphonium Meteors. They’re a little bit more expensive ($600, worth it) but they’re my favorite set out of 15 so far. Amazing bass, lovely mids and smooth treble that will never fatigue and it has some nice extension over 10k. I put the Penon OS133 cable adapter (mentioned above in my comment) on it along with an Open Heart cable that adds power and fullness, and it’s just sublime in every way. Look into it. And Monk try to review the Meteors, I think you’ll flip for em.
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
Wait. As much as I find 'that site' filled with idiots and supposed audiophiles on a payroll, with Quattro you may be not disappointed at all. I am not, thought I kept my Serial back then too and I was looking for some more wide 'analogic' sounding and relaxing IEM with good bottom to highs gamma. To me Fan2 (I still own it too; I wish Quattro had that shell shape) sounds too thin and clinical with old recordings, too unforgiving, sometimes less 'fun' and appealing than these two fine multi - DD.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
The Meteors get high praise indeed PENON Turbo was excellent as was the Fan2 for me and I really like the 10th. But you post one not shilled Review the fanboys attack!
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
I think there is better for less , I get to listen to alot of sets and some super Kilobuck stuff some mind-blowing some shit, but I now have a higher standard not based on price at all. For example if I wanted a organic chill set that did more than the Quattro I would buy the DUNU Falcon Ultra or start with the ARTTI R2 for $39 for a real analog organic chill session.
@maXXXjacker
@maXXXjacker 8 месяцев назад
The Dunu 'FU' (just love that) review you did was a good one and the comparison against the EA1000 was super helpful in understanding the DFU. I do have the EA1000 so I was appreciative of your guidance on whether or not it is something I should be pursuing or not. My first introduction to ARTII was the T10, I will be watching your R2 review shortly as so far I am a fan of what ARTII is doing, the T10 was a pretty nice budget entry.@@tonedeafmonk
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
Thank you. "musicality vs technicalities" Different from other Penon (too apologetic, biased) 'reviewers' you sound Professional, personal, straight and honest. A rarity. This said here with Quattro I humbly perceive differently:, maybe because I like Fan2 and Serial for their wide differences. And Quattro sounds to me a 360° worth Serial upgrade. I, my Quattro, do not agree with some minuses you exposed (higs are airy and detailed for me, and Quattro not-sloppy subbass being another field I like) but I can get the logic and your experience behind such affirmations. I too have had some Penon downside, elsewhere, and I know they may sometimes be not 'perfect' iems builders all around. Thank you for this outspoken review.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Not sure if I said sloppy bass just untextured maybe I did? I actually enjoy the Quattro quite a bit when wanting a chill set, but I have better for less money and I guess that play a part into the review bias. Thanks for you comments all is appreciated 👍
@moonsofjupiter
@moonsofjupiter 8 месяцев назад
ivipq make some good cables. I'm with you that cables matter. I have a similar treble enhancer cable on my Legato and it’s magic. So listen, I found you recently with your Scarlet Mini emotional review. Mine is still on the way. Since then I’ve really became a fan of your style. Your intro edits are nicely done and your detailed impressions are just the right length. And somehow you have managed to review an eclectic and interesting group of iems lately. Maybe the most surprising and unique iems of all the reviewers. Big props my friend. Now as for the Quattro, I don’t understand the clamshell driver implementation. Makes no sense to me. Totally agree with you - I think it would’ve sounded much better with just one 10mm driver for bass that doesn’t have its output essentially blocked. They’re trying things and I respect that. Penon should hire you as a consultant and get feedback before releases. I wanted a Penon Fan (OG) just as it went discontinued. It has prob the most bass of all Penon’s, maybe the Dome can compete. I need that bass Monk or it’s a deal breaker. So what I did and might’ve mentioned it in an earlier comment a few weeks ago - Penon makes a 4 inch cable adapter (get the female and male connectors) the OS133. There is also a OS133 cable so be careful. The adapter is $25 and adds warmth and fullness and stage/presence/ width. It’s subtle but apparent and I love it. I’m going to buy another as backup soon. I use it all the time, highly recommended. Shame about the Quattro having issues. They’ll be back with a winner. I want to see more bass as their close relatives ISN have put out a bunch of bangers. Have you reviewed an ISN? Try the ISN EST50. Hope to have one one day. One of the least expensive tribrids available and seems like a very good warm tuning with EST treble extension. Sorry for rambling. Love you Monky..you’re killing it.
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
Agree. Ivpq cable (AE) are pretty good. I have a pair, just a little too weight maybe.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Thanks huge , I have some killer IEM on my desk right now. TSMR RGB, PENON Impact. And wait some stuff that will rock the industry is about to hit and the big players have no idea because while they are trying to bury our group we are working behind the scenes. Exciting times just ahead this week will be interesting. ChiFi Audio Reviews is our FB page and At HiFiGuides Canucks Audioholics Anonymous page is where the action is happening.
@sujayp11
@sujayp11 7 месяцев назад
@moonsofjupiter Do you have the model number of the ivipq treble enhancing cable? I need to get one for my Legato as well.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 7 месяцев назад
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@sujayp11
@sujayp11 7 месяцев назад
@@tonedeafmonk Perfect, thank you! ❤
@giannisapostolopoulos9217
@giannisapostolopoulos9217 8 месяцев назад
I would love to listen to Coltrane on this set (on a stormy night says the romantic in me) , but I cannot justify paying 350 for it (with the coupon I received) when much better all rounders exist in similar or lower price points. Thanks TDM!
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
I am doing now and Crescent, Wise One, sounds pretty amazing believe.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for listening. And the musical inspiration. Going to listen to that tonight.
@PeacockObscuraWaveReview
@PeacockObscuraWaveReview 8 месяцев назад
Really excellent review busting the hype I can see you struggle with your feelings wanting to love it but just not meeting your expectations
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Man I am getting hammered on HeadFi PENON site for even posting anything without people watching the vid.
@woka_kawanua-hw2hj
@woka_kawanua-hw2hj 8 месяцев назад
again monk, you saved me!
@gadgetgenerationspulkit
@gadgetgenerationspulkit Месяц назад
Quattro is a different IEM. I mean i love it for its musical, warm and smooth sound, but at the same time i hate it for its low detail retrieval.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk Месяц назад
Dynaquattro is almost perfect and was done better than the Quattro
@jamesmiller4487
@jamesmiller4487 8 месяцев назад
Great review, and thanks for the hard hitting honesty. The message will be difficult to accept for the burgeoning Quattro fan club, but facts are facts.
@Alino17
@Alino17 8 месяцев назад
I respect TDM out of the usual bunch of headfi slaves on a payroll, but I also like Serial and Quattro. Musicality is the greatest success of these IEMS for people like for me, a trivial music lover (jazz, no Electronic or EDM). And musical, smooth, forgiving and detailed (Quattro the more so) these are for my ears.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Oh man PENON fanboys on HeadFi are out for blood.
@jamesmiller4487
@jamesmiller4487 8 месяцев назад
@@tonedeafmonk yeah, at least one of them alternating between trying to SOUND reasonable and then going back to fanboying… I find it hilarious because he is so over the top in love with so many things… until the next shiny toy come out. Communication theory states that some change is required to communicate information. Given he is always consistently pumping specific IEMs and rarely has a negative thing to say, he qualifies as not communicating anything.
@c6fifty7
@c6fifty7 8 месяцев назад
I’ve been cable rolling with my Quattro. They sound great with Penon Orbit cable out of Topping G5.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Good choice! Nice!
@missmygamergirl445
@missmygamergirl445 7 месяцев назад
I like the aq4 you hate so maybe if it has any common tone I like it.
@Parkster44
@Parkster44 7 месяцев назад
You’re the man buddy . Straight shooter and very informative video .
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 7 месяцев назад
💙💙💙💙💙
@Ratseeker
@Ratseeker 8 месяцев назад
Have you tried to EQ the bass to see if it's the drivers canceling (and/or just low quality drivers)? Or the Quattro just has a bad subbass/midbass tilt going for itself.... Like too tilted into a muddying subbass?
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
I didn't EQ on this set but your description oh how the bass sounds is exactly what is sounds like.
@sujayp11
@sujayp11 7 месяцев назад
Having gone through most of the 800+ pages of the Penon thread on Head-fi, I am yet to buy a Penon or ISN iem. And I buy at least 5-6 iems every year. At this point it gives me great satisfaction in not buying anything from the Penon store and feels like a victory against the shillers/paid reviewers on there who are shamelessly calling every Penon release the greatest thing since sliced bread and attack anyone that doesn't agree. I might miss out on a half decent iem once in a while but thats ok. The 3 times I came close to pulling the trigger on a Penon iem was, 10th AE - Liked the idea of dual Sonion EST's at $499 but the shell is too big, so had to pass. Turbo - Really liked this one and still do. Was thinking of getting this instead of the Maestro Mini as the bass can be controlled with switches and the mids/highs should be better than the Mini. Well they increased the price by $50 for no reason. Not that its a big difference but not a good practice at all. This might be the Penon I buy if I do in the future. Quattro - Was really intrigued because of the quad DD configuration but the initial reviews on head-fi by genuine community members said exactly what you said about the bass. Ofcourse the Penontards took over and started calling it the iem to die for and stuff. No thanks. So yea sorry for the rant but thanks for your genuine take on these. I would like to experience the Penon mids someday but definitely not these and not at $399 for sure.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 7 месяцев назад
💯% agree I find myself gravitating away from to thick , to warm IEMs these days. Just find something with Sonion BA mids x 4 and you going to get the same kind of smoothness and lushness in the vocals. Maybe one day PENON will stop listening to his yes boys and ask for some real feedback. As for now his ears are closed.
@germanramirez6153
@germanramirez6153 8 месяцев назад
That intro bro !! Loved it
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Appreciate it!! 🙏
@germanramirez6153
@germanramirez6153 8 месяцев назад
@@tonedeafmonk I think you should have a little stage with a cool visual you can switch around here and there for expensive cool items we can’t afford 😂honestly I avoid watching expensive items reviews because I just do t find interest in something I won’t be getting. But with intros like that with the background music makes it interesting. I felt that and made the review enjoyable !
@masterazlan6999
@masterazlan6999 8 месяцев назад
Almost reached ur target curve.. Congrat!...Compare it with old skol Variations.. For sure old moondrop wins.. Peace!
@mokisan
@mokisan 8 месяцев назад
Was this a review unit ? Was thinking of buying it.
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
I bought on a big discount.
@mokisan
@mokisan 8 месяцев назад
@@tonedeafmonk oh thanks!
@kpt923923able
@kpt923923able 8 месяцев назад
Glad that I dodged it and went for hype 4 instead.😅
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 8 месяцев назад
Honestly your instincts are good. I haven't listened to any hype yet but sure love my Oracle
@byntkktrnn
@byntkktrnn 8 месяцев назад
You're killing me, Monk-san :) By the way, I noticed on squid.links that the frequency graphs of Penon Serial and Pula PA02 are very similar at lows and mids (Harpo). What do you think about that?
@tonedeafmonk
@tonedeafmonk 7 месяцев назад
I would agree for the bass quantity on paper. Sounds more authoritive in ears the OG Canon did that as well it's the quality of the driver makes the difference IMO
@byntkktrnn
@byntkktrnn 7 месяцев назад
@@tonedeafmonk, so, by your opinion, the Pula bass is superior than Serial?
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