Pensioner poverty | Deaths in Winter | Social Security | cold winter payments | TV Eye | 1985 

Being young in the 70s didn't mean we didn't witness this. We did! And have done every decade since.

It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with class and privilege- I was young back then but raised by my Gran who was living like this in a council flat - riding bikes with flat tires and kicking around deflated footballs she’d found for me in the park - only thing I miss about these times is her love. Couldn’t pay me enough to go back to these shithole times or my shithole hometown. But yes I feel similarly annoyed at people talking about 70s and 80s nostalgia as better times - slums, poverty, thatcher, dole, child abuse and neglect, Yorkshire ripper, these were horrible times that I’m still scarred by today. Miss u Gran ❤️‍🩹

​@@KarmasAbutchoh I think it's a lot to do with selective memory and people being resentful that they got old. The people in talking about often witnessed these things clearly, but have somehow chosen to forget. As the saying goes "the older you get, the better the past becomes"

​@@zezet0ni594indeed, but some people seem to have selective memories - that's what I'm getting at. People who moan at the modern world and try and pretend things were better then. Selective memories - usually they're looking for someone to blame for the fact they got old.

​​@@zeddekato a degree, poverty yes far worse, id prefer to still be brought up in the 1960s and 1970s better childhood. But poverty was real in remember it.

Absolutely discussing

Absolutely hand!

I am completely discussed too.

A misguided remark. It's not for the govt to pay your fuel bills for you. Govt has no money other than that collected from the taxpayer, so you are effectively asking the taxpayer to pay other people's bills for them in addition to their own! That would be unfair and unreasonable.

Same government doesn't that tell you something stop voting decking tory

Especially when we have the sixth biggest economy in the world. Andy England 🇬🇧👍🌍

im shocked,Pension for ever been a load of rubbish,I hate to think by the time I get to 71 years old when I retire from work,Ive been working on Jobs for the last 30 odd years and still working,Any point paying a pension tax at work ???

Missouri, USA. My electric & Nat. gas bill has doubled since Corn Pop took office. Was $45 & $40, now $95 & $90 per month.

I nearly died of flu that year. We lived on a building site with no heating. Thanks to my bloody parents.

Bubble wrap wasn't around to buy then as much

ah yes, and land of parasites. everywhere has a tradeoff

Your obviously better off than others. Many have absolutely nothing. Your idea that this is a thing of the past is either misguided or you have absolutely no idea how the other half live.

if you read my last post correctly you'd have seen they are becoming a thing of the PAST. most now would have been enrolled in a company pension and be receiving a reasonable income. if they were penniless how come so many retire at 60 or even earlier. my dad retired ad 60 25 years ago and had a decent pension from Ford, my wife's mum was a hospital cleaner and retired 30 years ago and spent many years on cruises. I agree that there are those who do struggle but they are declining in their number.

Do they ?

I don't think they do, you know. Try finding out the facts before posting such rubbish.

Who is using the family brain cell today?

Not this person

Exactly and C19 is more evidence that the masses want ever more top down control and their backsides wiping for them. As individuals we have lost all the skills of our ancestors, to build our homes, source water, grow food, own and maintain livestock, chop wood and build fires, make weapons etc. At the moment the lefty liberals are falling right into the hands of those working to bring in digital feudalism, a.k.a. the Technocracy via United Nations Agenda 21 and 2030. The World Economic Forum's own promotional videos proudly proclaim, "you will own nothing and be happy about it".

@Minix Tvbox Go a few levels deeper for the real culprits. It's not a Tory or Labour thing, its a certain race / group of people we failed to purge from our nations prior to WW1 and WW2.

Your family must be so proud of your achievement.

@Scumfuck McDoucheface but where is Basshead 🤷🏼‍♂️

U r the new basshead😉😉

@@richardwager283 Basshead died peacefully last Sunday...

🏅👍🏻

I would advise everybody facing high heating bills to try a different heating regime. The method is more effective with gas heating but should produce similar results with electric heating too. You will need a mechanic timer to achieve the result. Setting your boiler's controls to fire up for 15 minutes (1 pin on) every hour (3 pins off) during the day and for 15 pins every 2-3 hours during the night makes the house warm all the time and takes less energy to heat up overall. (This method is even more effective with underfloor heating). I would suggest you give it a try for a week/month (take meter readings before and after) and compare the results. You can try it yourself before suggesting it to your parents.

i also always try to limit the heating of my home. just the necessary areas, at 17° celcius. wearing thick jumpers helps. and turning on the woodburning fire in the sitting area. i am also very happy when the heating can be off. Not just for the heating bill but more for the environment. i think everybody should live like this. a better world starts with you! (i'm 34 btw) (i'm currently building a zero energy house)

@@marc44444 hi Marc, I too am really conscious of not “wasting heat/energy resources. My partner and I take pride in the fact that every year for the past 5 years our electricity bill and electricity usage has decreased whilst everyone else complains that’s theirs increased. By the way we live in Montreal, Canada. We have really made an effort to sensitize our friends on what you can do to lower usage of electricity, a good incentive is to tell them about the $$$$ savings. We can choose this, sadly some people are in situations where their costs are fixed or they really suffer from the cold. Choice is key and awareness of course. Sadly too many have to worry about heating their homes to a “liveable” standard.

@@RandomIndividual01480 Is this because the short cycling causes the boiler water/air heat exchanger to stay cooler and thus effects more heat transfer and keeps the stack gas temperatures cooler?

Are you able to help them

MP's expenses wouldn't have been cut.

Things are better now as in recent decades people have been encouraged to invest in their own private pensions and the state pension is better now than ever, but that is not to say it is overly generous. The basic state pension here is around £165 per week. Lots of people have additional pensions so those with their own homes with no or little mortgage can have pretty decent retirements. Additionally, people on low income/pensions can claim pension credit (a top up payment) plus winter payments so all in all things are much better. The current 50+ people are probably the richest there's ever been with house prices sky high and many have bought second or third homes as an investment so people are sitting on significant assets. A 3 bed home in the south east of England can cost anywhere from £300K to maybe £1million, a LOT more in London. There are quite a lot of other benefits that can be claimed too so the scene we saw in this video are now generally a long bygone age. It can STILL be said that many people can be better off living off benefits than from working. As an example, a non-working family with 3 kids could get £1,000 per month or more towards paying their rent - a 3 bed home can cost from say £800 per month to £1500 per month or more - depends on where you live. People can get many other benefits including £20+ per week child benefit and another £10+ for additional kids, plus tax credits of hundreds per week, although tax credits are more generous for those that work. All in all, the amount of money that can be claimed by people including pensioners can be vast. So some spend their lives sponging and doing nothing but churn out kids. I'm assuming you're an Aussie? My Brother lives over there and he said your system is pretty rubbish, although I know the unemployment benefit rate is better than here, although I believe the cost of living is more there so probably similar benefits to here when all is said and done. He has recently started receiving a pension from an old UK employer and the Oz tax system is taxing it even though it has already been taxed in the UK. Most countries operate a "Double Taxation System" where credit is given for tax paid in another country, although apparently the ATO doesn't give any credit and takes their (additional) share too. We're actually taxed quite low now. Everybody gets a tax free allowance of around £12,000 and over that the tax rate is 20% until you earn in the £50,000+ range. We also pay National Insurance of normally 12% (which historically was to pay for our healthcare NHS system & pensions but it's just another tax now), but that is only after your monthly income goes over about £900, so if you earn £2,000 per month you'll pay about £200 income tax and £130 National Insurance, so you'll take home about £1,670 per month. Obviously the more you earn then the more tax & NI you'll pay. If you earn £3,000 per month you'll pay about £400 tax & £250 NI so you'll take home about £2,350 per month after deductions. I wouldn't say that's very highly taxed - you take home about 80% of your earnings!

No young are no better off believe me and that's if they work

@@TrueBrit1 bollocks

@@TrueBrit1 And Bob’s your Uncle

Naima Kelly It is really bad now even worse than then.

@@sarahjones-jf4pr and it's the Tory's again

Torys remove free bus passes for over 60 Torys removing free prescriptions for over 60's Torys remove free TV licence for our 75's yes there is a pattern

Just what I said

Think the £120 electric bill was for a quarter (3 months) as they were in those days.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Deliberate neglect.

I have been watching them also. Unfortunately, there are so many of them to watch.

It should. They should help the elderly more.

LOL hardly think so

Lucky you

I'm sure you can provide a link with evidence of this?

@@carlarrowsmith Google: 'Business for Scotland UK state pension worst in developed world and has the highest retirement age', big mouth.

@@Horizon344 Fudged figures and biased reporting in that article trying to make SNP look like a good idea to vote for. Here is something more realistic www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/042914/top-pension-systems-world.asp We're middle of the road, better than France, Spain, Italy, Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong.

A hangover of past practices when brits had the best occupational/workplace pensions. Course, since the 1980s, companies have been allowed to run down their pension schemes (or outright raid them!) But no change in state pensions to compensate.

nothing helps, I was stationed for 16 years in the UK when I was in the Air Force back in the 70s 80s and 90s. You can't imagine how the damp cold goes right through you. The British never insulated those older houses when they were built. As soon as the heat is turned off, the temperature in the room goes to freezing. if they can't afford to heat their homes even being in bed with five or six blankets, you're still shivering. It's unbelievable.

@@patd4u2 I have a house built in the 20's and no insulation and yes it is freezing... my wood burner keeps us warm... which the government are now trying to restrict.

Same government Tory's

Don’t kid yourself, labour is just as bad, this sort of thing has been happening for decades.

Wasn’t it cash then?

Today's old people were in their 30s or 40s back in 1985. The old people in 1985 are mostly dead by now.

Who do you work for the government prices going up 4 times a year including the standing charge will break a lot of families the future is bleak and turning down the heating is not the answer scrap the standing charge on the 2 meters witch is a daily charge scrape the vat on energy bills lower it also on food and change the people in charge of this chaos will be a start and it will also reduce the early deaths of people because of these policies

Sure fascists are renowned for their care for the elderly and poor.

Mosley was a youth-obsessed, fitter-nation nut who attacked his opponents as "the old gang". You'll struggle to find any mention of concern for pensioners in his writings.

I am surprised you know who Sir Oswald Mosely is.

What a load of bull get real maybe your looking in the wrong place

@@andrewhinksman4286 No pal it’s facts we are the only generation that will be worse off than our parents as well.

Retired at 50 because he's probably been working since 14

And house prices where low back then. Until Thatcher allowed people to buy council housing which made the boom for house rise along with prices.

@@TheStevenWhiting BT engineer I think 🤔 started when he left school had a nice job for life, something you or I probably won’t have, he also brought his council house for a 85% discount he said, something I could only wish for to be a property owner, now he moans about how lazy the youth are lol 😂 gotta love a baby boomer the worse generation in history in my opinion.

Oh shut up !