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I'm absolutely loving this and all your other videos. Question at 5:20 re: the Bb7 chord. You say the notes are from C# minor pentatonic. Could one also say that it's from the E major pentatonic?
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You lesson is great... But I don't understand it know how to read music like right reading. Please is their any midi file for this lesson? And all of your lessons?
Funny you mention Gm 6 Pentatonic. That's very close to the next one we are doing (the minor pentatonic b5 -- Em pentatonic b5 for C7 for example.) Although you would not get the same results, different tensions and chord-tones there.
I apologize for being a bother, but something about the nomenclature for the minor b1 pentatonic doesn't appear to comport with what is written in the Pentatonics Voicings Upper Structures course accompanying .pdf file. Here is what I mean: In the intro video ("Pentatonic Voicings very Jazz Musician Should Know, Jazz Piano Tutorial, 'When I Fall in Love'") at 4:00 in the video you introduce the transformation of the F minor pentatonic to the minor pentatonic b1, by lowering the F to an E-natural which gives us the notes E, Ab, Bb, C, and Eb. Okay, fair enough. But on page 124 of the pdf document for the Pentatonics Voicing course ("Pentatonic Voicings Course by mDecks Music.pdf") the Fmin pentatonic b1 is written as F, B-natural, Fb, A, Db and it is the Emin pentatonic b1 (on the preceding page, 123) that has the notes E, Ab, Bb, C, and Eb. Am I misinterpreting the names of the b1 minor pentatonic incorrectly, or is the possibly an error in the labeling of the b1 minor pentatonics in the .pdf document? One reason this might be important is that, at the moment as I struggle to learn the voicings for the b1 minor pentatonics, it is kind of nice to try to remember which b1 pentatonics might go with a dom7 chord. For example, remembering that the b1 minor pentatonic a perfect 4th above a dominant's root note is a cool way to remember what voicings one might try with that dom7 (e.g. Fmin b1 pentatonic is a perfect fourth above C7). [As an aside, it looks like it is also cool to remember that a standard minor pentatonic a minor 3rd up from the root of a dominant chords works, e.g. C#min pentatonic (not b1 pentatonic) for a Bb7, yes?] But, there might be something more fundamental that I am confusing (and it won't be the first time, to be sure). I'd appreciate your clarification.
Hi, you are correct! We wrote the F minor pentatonic b1 (which is F# minor pentatonic with F replacing the F#) with an odd spelling. The notes are correct but the spelling is odd. F minor pentatonic b1 should be written as F A B C# E F. The first voicing on page 124 should be written as F B E A C# (instead of F B Fb A Db). That's why in the introduction of the book we explain how enharmonic spellings are tricky. Hope that helps. Thanks for the feedback.
I've been working through the rich (but difficult) lessons on the use of pentatonic and flattened pentatonics, and have I think I am missing something fundamental. So, please let me begin with reference to the voicings in "When I Fall in Love". In the second measure, you are voicing the two Bb7 chords using the C# minor pentatonic -- that is, the pentatonic a minor third above the Bb. However, in the first measure the C7 is not being voiced analogously with the Eb minor pentatonic. Instead, if I understand correctly, you used the F minor pentatonic b1 (which, of course contains the E - Bb tritone). However, when I look at the Upper Structure chart for the Fmin pentatonic b1, the voicings for neither of the C7s as written in the first measure do not appear. Further, the C7 voicings as written doesn't appear in the Top Note chart either. So, I guess my question is: where in the hierarchy of C7 voicings do we find those beautiful C7 chords, and in particular why are they not part of the Fmin pentatonic b1 when it is clear that that pentatonic has all of the notes for the first of the C7 voicings? Do we just regard this C7 voicings as the more pedestrian C7b13 and C7-13 respectively. I'd surely like to have a better sense for how to find voicings using the "altered" pentatonics. Thank you again for constructing such valuable and quite thought provoking lessons.
Yes, not all the voicings in the arrangements are pentatonic voicings (or built using pentatonics by skips) But the ones for C7 in the first measure are in the top note charts: The first voicings is the 2nd one shown under the b13 as the top note (it's just written an octave lower) And the second voicing in the chart is the first voicing shown in the top-notes chart under the 5 as the top not. Anyway, I think that the "more-musical" approach is to mix pentatonic voicings with other types of voicings when you play. Just keep the same amount of notes to make it more consistent. We decided to use as many pentatonic voicings as possible in those arrangements to make the student get used to them. Hope that helps.
@@mDecksMusic First, thank you. And second, I stand corrected. You have pointed out clearly where the C7 voicings in the first measure of "When I Fall in Love" appear in the dom7 Top Notes chart. Two additional questions, if I may: 1. The Fmin b1 pentatonic has the notes (from top to bottom) E, Ab, Bb, C and Eb, which are the notes in the first voicing of C7 in the first measure of the tune. But, when I look at the Fmin pentatonic b1 in the "Pentatonic Voicings Upper Structures" , that first voicing doesn't appear. I must be missing something fundamental here, so where might my understanding of the Pentatonic Voicing Upper Structures be going awry? 2. While I understand that not all of the voicings in the arrangement for "When I Fall In Love" are necessarily pentatonic voicings, is it the case that ALL pentatonic voicing types (Minor b1, Minor b5, Minor #1) are, in fact in the Top Note chart for a particular chord (e.g. C7)? Fantastic stuff and well presented, though challenging to say the least.
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